
Weekly Zeitgeist 453 (Best of 10/19/26-10/23/26)
Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2026 · 55 min
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The weekly round-up of the best moments from DZ's season 461 (10/19/26-10/23/26)
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. So without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.
What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Well, okay. I'm not a huge horror movie fan. I like spooky. I don't like full-on scary.
Okay.
So I recently, my boyfriend was watching Back Rooms, and I was like, I'm just going to read it. So this is what I do with horror movies.
I went on Wikipedia and I just read the plot.
This is what I do with horror movies.
If I'm just like, I'd like to know.
So I'll just be like, all right, what's happening here? Oh, that's what happens. How long was it?
Like one paragraph?
Because it's a lot of.
It was very short.
Then he goes into another room. Yeah. This one, also a back room. Then his therapist don't believe him. Yeah, it's not.
I walk in and I go, I'm gonna get eyes on this. OK, now I know what it looks like. Let's go read it.
Did you get to see his like weird abomination?
Yes.
Yeah, I saw I.
Saw that and I was like, I don't I will not watch this, but I will find out what happens. This is how it's how I watch most horror movies. If I'm if I'm going to try to sit and watch something, I will just I need to know what's happening ahead of time.
Oh, and that sort of disarms.
Yeah.
All right.
I know where it's going.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
Because that I am that level of control freak.
But yeah, I do the same thing when like a man comes out from a horror film.
I just have to like.
Yeah.
I'm like, I don't fucking tell me why.
Yeah.
Oh, OK. OK.
So that's what happened to the older cult members in Midsommar.
I see.
Exactly.
I'll start getting stressed out if I'm watching and I'll be like, let me just skip ahead.
And see what's happening. Let me spoil this for myself.
Yeah, I love to spoil things.
Have you ever read something and been like, oh, I mean, I was like, oh, Wikipedia.
I thought Backrooms was terrifying because I'm scared of the color yellow.
Yeah.
So that really freaked me out. Yeah.
That kind of office space.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that too.
I think the way I came away with it, I was like, it's cool visually, but it's saying nothing. But I expect that from a filmmaker so young.
Yeah.
It didn't quite have like a real sort of piercing message. The thing that I liked was like, oh, this is kind of fucking weird, though.
Yeah.
Good for you.
I'm glad we made some just weird shit.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm interested in the line between spooky and scary, though. What is the scariest movie you like? And what is the one that's just right over the edge there for you? Right over the edge there for you.
I like a Scream.
You like a Scream.
I like Scream.
I like Evil Dead 1 and 2.
I won't watch the new Evil Dead.
But they're kind of campy. There's campiness.
I need campy. I need a tension breaker.
I guess the Evil Dead is like as much a love letter to Looney Tunes cartoons as it is like a scary horror movie.
Exactly.
I can handle a couple of jumps. I don't like Grimm. I think I don't like just like a non funny, grim time. I don't I don't want.
To watch a dead nun. I don't want to watch anything like super, super natural. That's not like fun at all.
Yeah.
It's not not for me.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like 2X supernatural.
Yeah.
Super, super natural.
Did you watch Windows Bay?
I did, and it scared me.
Yeah, but was that right on the line for you?
That's right on the line.
That's for me.
I was like, I liked Widow's Bay because it has that. It was like, there's good comedic moments, but still being freaky.
Yeah.
Scary stuff happening in back rooms in that show, I'll tell you what. Yeah.
Yeah.
Doug!
Dougie Fresh. There it is.
Michael Winslow style.
I think this should just be what the show is for. I'm Michael Winslow. You've gotten full Michael Winslow.
Hey, don't go, man.
What do you think about that?
Yay!
I'll have some, like, sound effects.
Yeah, we did a little clacker thing.
Podcasts are at a point now where we're either becoming full talk shows or morning zoo crews.
We're fighting for our fucking lives right now.
We're fighting for our fucking lives. You don't know what we are.
You don't know what it's like.
What is something, Janie, that you think is underrated?
Okay, I couldn't find, I had a hard time with this, with all of these, honestly. Where did I write this down?
Over, under?
Well, I think, personally, the album Crisis Acting in the End Times or How to Kill the Antichrist and Save Rock and Roll by Janie Danger is a criminally underrated album.
A lot of people are saying, many are saying.
I think that's very underrated. It should be very, very highly rated. It should be going just off the charts rated.
Should be.
But aside from that, I had a few here I wrote down. Honestly, I wrote down Nathan Fielder, but I feel like we're going to talk about that later. So I might save that. I wrote that down because even though he's one of the most highly rated things ever, I still feel like he's misunderstood in a sense by a lot of people. So we could maybe save my thoughts on that.
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Here, I'll go with this one since it's Halloween time. Free movie sites. Free movie sites. Not everyone is good at torrenting. And I understand that. I've told some of my coworkers, one thing I really like to say, and I say it like this every time, is how it feels to not have any streaming services at all, not pay for any of them. And I'm doing like a motion of handcuffs with my hand. And I'm breaking them.
Breaking them. Liberating yourself. It feels so freeing. Not having to pay for anything. And just.
finding it. And I still probably spend I still give more money to like movies I like and stuff than I ever would by using streaming services. But I will say there's still to this day, websites out there on the on the regular internet that you can just click click clackety click away and it might not have exactly what you want sure it's gonna have something beautiful and crazy and especially around Halloween I'm a big fan of effed up movies and it does have a lot of really bad shit in it that i'm kind of working on a secret little project about right now okay but it has a bunch of just normal ass like dope ass movies like it's got like a bunch of like slashers and giallo and it's got like harmony corinne movies
and like anything that's um effed up.
Right and it's just it's just there i was surprised how much shit was on the internet archive too like i was looking for an old comedy central show and the entire season was just like uploaded it like it was like not it was like 360p which is fine it was like from the 90s yeah but i was like yeah it's all here and it's not on a single streaming site.
It's probably better quality now than it was watching it on like a crt in like the in 1994 like yeah so shout out to free movie sites i think they're so underrated I don't want.
To say too many because I don't want to blow up their spot. Go on Reddit.
You find them by just searching. Yeah, go on Reddit.
Also, there's free movies on YouTube.
You can watch Inland Empire in full on YouTube.
I don't know how it hasn't been taken down.
You can watch Silence of the Lambs on there too.
What?
Maybe if it's free?
Premium?
Amazing.
I don't know.
Amazing stuff.
I saw it and I was like, y'all are changing the words.
I have to, I can't watch this version of Silence of the Lambs actually. You realize you're watching Seinfeld of the Lambs.
Kramer, what are you doing to these girls?
What are you doing?
They put the lotion on the skin, Jerry. I can smell you. Like Kramer's Buffalo Bill. And Newman's Hannibal.
Yeah.
It's like, I know how to catch him, Clarice. With that Wayne Knight laugh.
Yeah, Clarice is, you're like, I don't remember Julia Louis-Dreyfus being in this film.
Hello, Elaine.
I could definitely see her coming around the corner to his cell and just Wayne Knight sitting there with a big smile on his face. That is an awkward moment where Hannibal Lecter is just standing there in his whites with his hands behind his back or on his hips.
It's very cute.
Fucking George was in Jacob's Ladder, which I remember the first time I watched that, I was like, what the, that's George.
Oh, no, George, late 90s. Her late 80s run.
And it was great, too, because Jason Alexander was wearing so many wigs in different roles, too.
Are you like, oh, he got hair in this one? All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll do that.
That was kind of the prototype of just, like, Guy in a silly wig. Like, every episode of, like, It's Always Sunny, where Frank wears a wig. It doesn't have to be a joke. It's just always funny every time he shows up in a wig.
Just do it with a straight face. What is something you think is overrated?
Sports.
I mean, by virtue of the fact that here's the thing. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Gretchen Rubin, who wrote a book called, among many books, one of.
Them is called The Four Tendencies.
And the tendencies are regarding how you motivate, whether you're more a motivator from the inside or from the outside. And the four tendencies are, there's the people who are motivated more internally, more externally, then there's both, and then there's neither. And so she calls the ones who are neither rebels. And their motto is, you can't make me and neither can I. And I am the kind that is an internal motivator, which is called, that she calls the questioners. The ones who do both are called upholders.
and the ones who are more externally motivated are what she calls obligers. And that is the largest group of them. She says of all the people, you know, in our society, perhaps in the world, more people than any other type motivate, but what's the group doing?
You know, like I'm gonna, I'll go along with.
This, political party or this religion or this, what we do in our family or in our community or our culture.
Like, and we all do these things in many ways.
Like I'll drive approximately the speed limit, not because it's just the rule, but because I think it's a good rule and it's a good law and it's safe to do it. So I internalize that. And I'm like, but I questioned like, is it good? I don't follow every law. I follow the laws that I think are, you know, good and reasonable and kind to people and will cause, The least harm. And the reason I bring this up is because I think the whole question of what is overrated and what is underrated.
Oh, shit.
I'm not trying to take down your whole.
No, do it. But it involves my.
I think the way that I'm interpreting it involves my imagination of what other people think.
Right.
But which based on what I'm seeing, I'm like, oh, a lot of people are talking about this or a lot of people are complaining about that. But we live in such unique times now compared to, you know, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years ago where it used to be. We kind of the monoculture was showing us all approximately the same thing. But now, like there are people like I'm on thread. I love being on threads and the discourse on threads might seem like it's everywhere. But then I'll talk to a person who's not on threads and they'll be like, I actually don't know anything about anything that's going on. So even the concept of rating is like more locally situated. And so I think that. For me personally, like I don't begrudge anyone what they love.
Like if you love sports, like I'm not saying like as an ethical concern, like people have to stop caring about sports as much as they do and be more like me and not care about it as much.
Like I want the people to be happy.
I live in New York City when the Knicks won, people were happy and I'm happy for anything that makes sense.
People happy.
I do like that in art, there's, you know, you don't have to have losers for there to be winners. But I get that sports is an arguably different thing than art. But for me, many people, it seems outside of myself that people rate sports in a in a higher fashion than i do and so i put i i have no judgment i i want to play your game i follow your rules i tell you what i think is rated higher than i would rate it and one of those things is sports but i love you sports lover sports lovers look i don't hate the player I don't.
Hate the fans. All the games.
I don't even hate the game.
I just I love I love the I love the people and the system is fine.
I will say, yeah, one of my arguments for sports is like, well, look how great it is when everything comes together and like the biggest city in the country is all happy and you have like dopamine going through everybody's brains at the same time. That hasn't happened in so many years.
Yeah.
And, like, every year there are 29 other cities where they're just like, fuck. It's just an unnecessary dose of whatever the opposite of dopamine is.
So.
Yeah, I do still love it, but I think it's a valid point. I mean, I'll just.
Say, on X, the everything app, obviously loving sports is a core pillar of the economy, the world economy, because how else are you going to gamble your house on sports betting?
So you've got to think about both sides.
Oh, sports betting, I'm way on board, obviously. That's the greatest thing.
That's the only good thing about sports.
Yeah.
You got to check your Bayesian priors.
That's the best. It's like people who shouldn't be doing anything. With like one week of economics class or statistics class betting their betting all of their money.
Yes.
It's fine. Yeah. My future self and my children, my future college age children will be fine with this. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Amazing. Well, thank you, Mike. We, you know, have our work cut out finding new questions to ask every guest because underrated and overrated. Clearly. Oh, yeah.
You know, it's overrated is asking people what's overrated. People love doing it. Also, you said like maybe it made sense 10 years ago. That's when we started this podcast.
So maybe we do need to take another look at this.
We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk about Airbnb. We'll be right back. And we're back. Elon Musk, you know, he's always in the news.
Whether it's giving untold hundreds of millions, basically to try and keep the Senate in the hands of the GOP, Or maybe recently he was talking about slowing down Starlink in Ukraine. There's all kinds of things going on. He blamed the White House. He also has a documentary that's coming out that many people are wondering. First, will David Ellison, the leader of Paramount, Skydance, HBO, Warner, whatever discovery this new fucking conglomerate is, will he actually play Alex Gibney's Musk documentary on HBO because it is an HBO documentary?
Or will he just back up the oligarch homie in Elon Musk. And then we found out his dad, his dad owns TikTok, Larry Ellison, permanently suspended the Musk account on TikTok. So that was, yeah, just some oligarch news. And I believe that it was restored after a few people were like, what the fuck are you doing? Again, I think we're gonna see more things like this happen and people give bullshit excuses like, oh, that was actually like a mistake or something. Just had to reinstate that. Yeah, a lot's happening. But with Elon Musk specifically, he's looking for something to get the Tesla stock going, to get people to believe that he's not just a total liar who has an affinity for doing Heil Hitler salutes in
the middle of America.
So now he's given us the new Tesla Roadster, which apparently has SpaceX jets installed. built into them he did like a whole fucking demonstration where a car basically went up like a fucking half pipe and then um used like air jets to completely land itself so for this one was it's it's driving up a verdict like vertically on a wall then it's inverted driving up it's like a half loop and then the car it it's i don't know it's it's stupid to describe this like this is the music playing It's just going up a wall, like stuck to a wall.
And you're like, oh shit, the future is now. The thing was able to stick to a wall. And here comes the coup de grace. It goes up the wall.
How do you get invited to this?
It goes up the ramp, turns around, and then lands with a bunch of air brakes.
So that is distracting. I will give them that. That did distract the shit out of me. I don't know what's going on in the world after seeing that.
So this was at a Tesla, at their test facility in Texas. It's the new Roadster. It's a two-person sports car that not only can go from zero to 60 in less than a second, so beyond record time, but he said it used suction underneath the car to climb up the steep ramp hang upside down before spinning, flipping, and using air jets to land was sort of like the technical description from the Tesla people.
It is weird that they made it a two-seater because anyone who would drive something like this has no friends.
No reason for that extra seat or you just yeah or that's the only thing you your entire personality is like hey get in my Tesla Roadster you want to drive up a wall and flip yeah even.
Before you finish that sentence no one's going to get in because they know you're.
A Like a creep. When you said get in my Tesla.
Yeah, get in my Tesla. That's the end of that conversation. No, thank you.
Are we about to, you know, go do some dirt? I have no fucking clue.
Get in my Tesla and allow me to mansplain everything.
So this is actually air suction tanks from Elon Musk's SpaceX. You're not going to fucking believe this. The airbags are filled with cocaine.
It's going to take me a long time to tell you how this works.
Yeah.
You don't got anything to do after this, right? Yeah, you just drink that White Claw. All right, good.
All right, so here, let me pull up a video really quick.
This is from Jordan Peterson.
You're going to fuck this.
Hey, come back. I haven't played the video.
Come back.
It hasn't even flipped yet. And then he presses the button and the whole fucking roof rips off and they end up in a mud puddle. He says, I meant swamp, not mud puddle.
I like mud puddle. You're not wrong.
You know what I mean? The way he makes these cars, when he presses the flip button, God knows what's going to happen to.
The people in that car.
Oh, yeah. I'm surprised that it didn't explode. Again, it's using hot ultra high pressure air tanks according to him to to move through the air and and land on the ground he says production it's going to go into production in 2028 which we all know is a fucking lie because everything elon musk talks any elon musk talks about it it doesn't come to fruition 99.9 percent of the time roadsters in the mail at the end of the fucking demo, someone in the audience was like, hey, man, so, like, is this car, like, street legal?
Like, is this some shit I'll be able to?
And Elon Musk's response was, yeah, yeah, this quote, depends on your street, but it'll be a viable car. And he just, like, muttered on, like, just kind of under his breath about, yeah, it'll be viable.
A viable car. I better hope so. It's so vague.
It will be seaworthy.
What?
What?
It's a boat? Yes, it's a viable car.
The Roadster product page, like Tesla's own product page, it contains a disclaimer specifying that the vehicle, quote, is not approved for public road use, and that the, quote, rocket model, which is presumably what we saw on the display during the event, is invite only, describing it as, quote, air-ready with seating for one.
So, Blake, actually, to your point.
Oh, my God, it's seating for one?
Yeah and the reason is uh the air tanks that the rocket fucking version used to do like the kick flip over the other cars were occupying the passenger seat space so it's like it doesn't even it's gonna it's only gonna be one person if you needed to do i want to just have a terrible accident in front of a group of onlooking teenagers at a fucking walmart parking lot um that's well.
You know they name cars you know like like you know whatever they are the nissan armada or whatever like there's always more and more dystopian you know like uh the Toyota Destroyer or whatever, you're next to it in traffic and it's like a 700 foot tall pickup truck and you're driving a Honda Fit and you're like.
Yeah, I'm in my Honda Fit. Oh, well, I'm in a fucking Mazda fucking, what's the.
What's the name of the Tesla Roadsters? The name of the Tesla Roadsters is going to be the male loneliness epidemic.
True.
I mean, it's definitely short. The rocket version only has one seat. That's so funny.
600 liter pressure capacity, like the little tanks they use, 600 liter capacity, a total of 250 kilos of air. That's why there's no passenger seat. Again, the company doesn't care if this is realistic or even gonna work or even legal because they've already begun courting down payments for a massive quarter million dollars for a reservation deposit. Or you can make a $ 50, 000 down payment. That's $ 5, 000 up front and then $ 45, 000 due within 10 days of the first payment.
You know, just like we get it.
You're going to have to move your, you're going to have to liquidate your retirement to buy this.
Someone do a documentary where they interview every single person who pre-orders those and it'll be a great documentary.
Oh my God, yeah.
Like I need Nathan Fielder to do that. Like the fucking, the pre-sale Tesla people.
That's a great idea.
Well, you know the story. You're probably still going on the thing. But you know about the, you know, that it wasn't.
I'm still going on. You're right, Chris.
No, no, no.
I mean, you're still telling the story.
So go ahead.
I mean, there's really nothing else really to say.
Just that it was hollowed out.
And what I really liked about the story was as a fan of car jumps and a fan of the devil at your heels and Ken Carter and all that stuff, like carnies came out and were like, yeah, we've been doing this trick since the 70s. like this pressurized gas, the whole thing.
Oh, interesting.
This is a fucking middle of the high school football game stunt show trick.
Wait, so what do the carnies do? They use that to get it more of like velocity and distance, basically?
It's the same thing.
They're like, this is the old car flip gag where you use pressurized gas. I mean, it's like a fucking thing that's been done for like, decades by by as a as part of it tricksters yeah like like you know like it'd be like musk opens up a fire wallet next then it's like for 80 grand you're too gonna fire shoot out of your you're not gonna believe this you can buy a human cannonball kit a tesla human cannonball all you need is a net a helmet yeah complete lack of judgment you have to be really lonely just like the kind of people who want the.
It's definitely like the mechanical Turk in the same way that that's been around for centuries. We're still doing things where we're saying robots are doing stuff only to find out it's a call center with human beings doing the fucking quote unquote AI work.
Yeah.
But you hear these people who I guess are on like whatever, just like some... Probably drugs. Like if you go to that demonstration, you know what I mean? You probably take mushrooms or something. I mean, the kind of people who would go to a Tesla, like invite only, like we're going to show you our new roadster. Every kind of bro who goes to that is going to be like, let's fucking take, you know, let's roll. We're going to be rolling when we see that. That's going to be awesome. Let's take ecstasy. Let's take whatever. So, yeah, you see like a stunt. Like a car stunt on Ecstasy, your judgment about it is like, it's magic.
Right, right, right. Yeah, sure, sure. Because you're going to be like, no, I was there, man. And it was way fucking cooler.
Also, again, tell me how a car that does a fucking hard flip off a fucking vert ramp... Is in any way helping society in any measurable way outside of just, again, dumb fucking parlor trick for rich people to be like, again, I just think this is probably just going to lead to some Darwin effect where people are going to be like, yeah, like the first three people to try and flip their cars.
They fucking died terribly.
Yes.
They're like tennis court outside.
Yeah.
On their tennis court, they're like, listen, let's go out to my tennis court and I'm going to show you this fucking Tesla flip. And then you see like four charred bodies.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
Next to a car that's still sitting.
The car's still sitting.
The car's fine and still sitting still in a normal position.
The car's laughing. It's like sentiently laughing.
We don't even understand how they got burned up.
I mean, the car looks fine. You fucking idiot. What did you fucking think would happen? The car looks young.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The car just licked its lips.
What is that?
Spider caught a fly.
What?
What's that car?
Nothing.
What was that? I mean, beep, beep. I mean, now we're getting somewhere. All right. Let's also keep talking about. There's a cold open.
Yeah.
File that one down. Put it in the Rolodex.
I also just want to talk about the, again, convenient arguments I think we're going to be seeing to justify censorship and voter suppression. Last week, we talked about a story how the state of Texas failed to send out around 600,000 ballots to voters. Obviously, this is in the midst of early voting beginning and Texas being one of the, it is based on spend, the most consequential Senate race happening in the U.S.
Right now.
The millions are being poured into the Senate race between Ken Paxton and James Tallarico. And so having 600,000 people not being able to vote probably helps when we're talking about margins in the maybe tens of thousands, potentially, maybe a who knows how close it's going to be. But again, their explanation was, oh, it's a glitch in the voter registration portal. That's crazy because we're not trying to fucking obviously suppress votes. This damn glitch in the portal.
Is to blame.
So we're getting on it. We're fixing it.
And again, they just claimed, oopsie, and hoping that now.
Yeah, the glitch in Ukraine.
Same thing. They're like, oh, yeah, I don't know. We don't know why Starlink went down.
It's going crazy.
It's got glitches all over, it seems. A similar incident happened over the weekend with the No Kings Rally Instagram account. So there's no kings of protests happening across the country this weekend. And it was shut down on Saturday. again, when this, in the midst of this nationwide action happening and the administrators of the, you know, no Kings coalition, they couldn't access the account for hours. This is what, uh, this is what meta had to say was their explanation.
Quote orange.
This is again, very techno babble bullshit, but it'll make sense on the other side. Quote, Our engineering team discovered that the spike that triggered the incorrect enforcement was primarily in the account's reading behavior. Specifically, our network security systems detected the use of a cloud tool, AI, reading profiles, posts, and hashtags, the rate of which sharply increased in intense bursts.
These abrupt high-volume sequential requests in a short period resembled automated bot traffic rather than an ordinary human. This activity caused our automated protections to incorrectly take the NoKing's Instagram account offline. An automated re-review of the removal action an hour later recognized that shouldn't have happened and restored the account.
It unfortunately took an additional time for us to straighten out the situation with admin access to the IG account.
And we want to reiterate our sincere apology for the error.
We'll just do a new rally then. We'll just reorganize that humongously impressive coordinated rally now that the accounts are back online.
Sure, sure. I mean, again, for them, they're just like, whoops, dang computer glitch.
It definitely wasn't us, the company that is in bed with the administration who is the aforementioned king that we are saying no to.
It couldn't be that.
It's just a fucking glitch and that's what's happening. We're not trying to roll back people's rights or censor them. The reasons Meta gave, though, for the shutdown don't make much sense to the NoteKings people. They said, quote, in the 24 hours before our account was shut down, we posted only a handful of times and live streamed to thousands. Meta's, quote, high frequency excuse doesn't add up. Beyond shutting down our Instagram, we've received reports that hashtag no kings and early voting content was inaccessible, restricted or seemed suppressed across meta platforms.
So, yeah, this is so many things in there that are that could be discussed before we leave that. I just want to mention because you said James Tallarico. I just want to tell you, does anyone else not think that James Tallarico, who thinks there's six genders, makes him sound like the most badass candidate of all time?
Yeah, everything's backfired when they're like.
I'm like, holy shit, sign me up for the fucking.
I mean, it's also just funny to see them just flailing to be like, I don't know, man, let's let's try and up the attacks that we used in 2024 about like transphobia and be like, nobody thinks six gender.
Nobody thinks six gender sounds bad. That sounds fucking cool.
I'm like, and people are like, you know, I'm actually, I'm open to hearing more.
Even the Tesla motherfuckers are probably like, listen, I'm ready for fucking six genders, flipping cars.
We got a car that goes upside down.
We got six genders.
2026 genders, bro.
Let's fucking go, James Talafrico. But the thing about that excuse that Meta used, it's so funny because they basically admit that if their excuse was true, which it's not- it would still be like an argument against AI. Because they're like, yeah, AI made it impossible, it broke it, and then it made it hard for us to fix it, which is everyone's experience with AI. Anyway, it's just part of this inevitability argument where they're just like, yeah, well, we can't get rid of AI, even though it's like the whole reason this happened allegedly, I mean, it's just so complicated.
I think it allows for the actions of these people like Mark Zuckerberg, so they don't have to be completely painted with, I mean, obviously, it's If they go, oh, it was a computer glitch, then it doesn't have to be. Mark Zuckerberg helps Donald Trump by suppressing no king's rally account on the day of the no king's rally because Trump is the king and doesn't want that kind of information to be spread on the Internet that he's basically bought with access to the White House.
So then it's easy to be like.
It's a it's a it's a techno glitch. It's some technical stuff. We obviously it's not us. It's a technology.
And to your point, Chris, that means, well, then it sounds like this shit sucks.
Yeah.
It fucking sucks. And this is the issue with like dependent because it's not just like a shitty company that is like there aren't impacts that doesn't have impact on people. Like when you have an algorithm that's run by AI and businesses like you see like a business account or like a personal account that like people depend on for income get locked out of meta, you know. because an AI bot accident, say it even was a mistake, which this clearly fucking wasn't. So say even when they're operating at their best, when they're not being devious little fucks and the algorithm just blows and it isn't good, then a business's account can be shut down. They can't get income from it. And by a business, I mean like
a mom and pop. By a business, I mean like Nabisco. No, like a mom and pop business.
By Procter & Gamble, yeah.
Yes, or Procter & P & G. Nabisco, yeah.
It is disgusting where it's like, so you have a bad company. They don't treat it with the gravity that it deserves, I think, is what makes me so fucking mad about it. Where it's like, you built this monster that people fucking depend on. And now you got all the human beings cut out of it who can actually resolve an issue right away. Why did it take you an hour to get the account back online? It's a bajillion dollar fucking company. Just flip a switch. Put it back online.
Why did it take an hour? I think that's where we have to kind of like.
We know why it took an hour.
Yeah, well, I mean, I think that's where we're like, we're fully in this era now where it's like, these people aren't, they don't give a fuck. They're saying everything's become, well, I've created this kingdom where I control social media and I can now, I have more access to power because I can tell the powers that be. I can fucking flip the switch and get this account. Because I control that part of people's reality right now.
I can freeze your bank accounts.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not really about like, are we making the best product? It's how much control can I exert with my business? And how do I leverage that for my own profit, access to power, et cetera? And I think it's really hard to look at these people in any other light than that.
And there's no fucking help either. It's not like, oh, I'm going to call customers. There's no customer service anymore. It's all shit chat bots.
Yeah.
It's like, hey, just hopefully you'll quit before what you sue us. And then we'll, you know, it'll cost you all this money. Like, it's just a fucking total nightmare.
Sorry.
It's a nightmare.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no. It's I mean, I just can't believe like we're seeing this. I never understand like what the. joy is for these people i mean i know i guess like just the joy of control but and the like the joy of control the joy of power you know that's all but but i mean like oh i mean do you mean the fans of these people the fans of these people are just desperately like that's basically a bread line to people who just want to be close to these people because they just want to be perceived as on their side. So when they're passing out the food rations, they get some too. I mean, I think, you know, I mean, I don't think they see it that way. They see it themselves as fans, but it's much different. It's much more a dystopian than that. This is,
we're not seeing fandom of these people because these people are objectively stealing everyone's livelihood. And if you're a fan of them, you know, you're not thinking straight, but you think you are. You're like, oh yeah, like I'm down with this. I mean, it's just being down with, You're a presser because you just are hoping you'll be the exception.
Your name will be on the protective scrolls. They won't freeze your bank account. Your name won't, yeah. Because it's really like now they can show a picture to a drone and that drone can... you know, decide whether it wants to fucking shoot you or turn off your bank account. Obviously a drone wouldn't have to be involved in turning off your bank account.
No, no, they have those drones now.
Or give you tickets to the next Metallica concert.
A drone did it.
We were in here and we had our drone that turns off and on the No Kings account and it was flying around and we had it set on just fly around, but it went on its own and it shut it off. And then by the time we got it untangled from the ceiling fan, it just took us a while.
So we did get it back on.
Yeah.
Holy shit. Um, All right.
Nice fucking life.
You guys have created for us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're living in your. Thank you for yourselves.
Like, I mean, that's really what's the joy in it for anybody. I mean, Elon Musk, he's obviously miserable. I mean, on the top, you pick a lineup of people who's happy and who's miserable. Elon Musk is not happy.
Number one at the top. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, let's catch up with some pop culture things because a few things happened.
We'll be right back.
And we're back.
And man, first of all, this is just a story about the fact that we've been doing this show for way too long.
The story was four years ago. 2022 is when it broke. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I just missed this.
Yeah. I just remember at the time it was just like one of those things.
Oh, it was kind of like this love story to be like, they love each other, though.
It was just funny as a nation did the K.I.S.S.I.N.G. Oh, T.J.
And Amy sitting in a tree.
So, again, yes, this is the story about the Good Morning America anchors, T.J. Holmes and Amy Robach. They were married at the time.
And they said they had great chemistry. Not to one another. Till the Lloyds frigging outed them as a couple. And they went public. And then everyone was like, oh, wow, they're together. People loved it. People loved it.
People loved it.
People loved it.
And there was no, I'm not sure if it was necessarily like a salacious affair, if they were like legally married or whatever.
Regardless.
Yeah.
I have a feeling when you're married to another person, it's probably not the best situation for the other spouse. So now we're hearing something out of a TV show. Their exes are now about to get married. What? So Amy Robach's ex, Melrose Place star Andrew Hsu. Yes, brother of Elizabeth Hsu, if you had to ask. And Marilee Feibig, who was TJ Holmes' ex, are now officially engaged.
Wow.
Now, TJ and Amy, they just got married last like last month or some shit.
But this is what Andrew Hsu had to say. He's very grateful and hopeful about the engagement and said that after growing closest friends, he and Marilee have found their, quote, happy.
Ending together as they plan their wedding.
National Nut Day.
Oh, boy.
Damn it.
We were almost a news show. Now we're back to Morning Zoo.
He's a he was a member of Cobra Kai. Oh, shit.
Andrew Shue?
Andrew Shue was apparently Peter from Cobra Kai.
Oh.
Sick. I mean, they're a good looking couple, though. They are a handsome couple.
Yeah, they look great.
You know? They're kind of hotter than TJ and Amy. They are.
I actually think so, yeah. I'm happy for everybody involved. Do you think the exes get invited to the wedding?
Uh, I don't know.
Yeah, where are we on speaking terms? We're all just good. You know?
Yeah.
What about that? This is him in Cobra Kai. He's not one of the main blondies.
He's just kind of a background Cobra Kai.
Jack, that could be you. That could be me. Oh, wow.
You should get a black karate gi one year.
Cut the sleeves off, dude. Be Cobra Kai. I like over laugh because I already have one. Yeah, I'll probably get one next year or something. Not this year.
Definitely don't already have one. Sweat stains under the arms.
Are you okay? Yeah, but I feel like I see stories like this.
You hear about like, oh, people ended up with the other person's spouse, but it's usually like elderly people who like, they're like, we were the four best friends until our partners died. And then we are now together.
And then rather than going through the process of meeting someone new, we just figured we're not?
You know?
Yeah, exactly. I think the best example, the most famous example, there were two Yankees pitchers who were pitchers on the same team. rotation for the Yankees in the late or early 70s. And they, their families hung out together all the time. That's how it starts. Exactly. So this is a lesson to anyone, okay? That's why our wives don't want us to hang out.
Exactly.
Because she's like.
Are you worried about Miles and Jack?
You got to have an uggo couple friend. That's how you keep it.
That's how you keep it good.
No, don't hang out with your podcast host friends.
No, no, no.
Widely known for trading families with teammate Mike Kekich.
In the early 1970s.
It's pronounced cuck-itch. And it should be because it's kind of wild. I always heard the story that they switched, but it was really like, it's clearly this one couple wanted it and the other couple.
Was just like, okay.
They didn't stay together for more than a couple weeks, the other couple.
That's a lot of trauma bonding, not really anything.
The couple that lasted to old age was a guy who was an all-star pitcher. And so he basically was like, Hey, I think we should trade wives to the guy who, after they traded wives, he was traded away like that season.
Oh, damn.
After it went south.
Wow.
So it's like really, wait, I don't understand. That's how it was just, it was just a proposal?
He's like, hey, bro, what if like, we don't know exactly what happened. What we know is they came to spring training in March 1973 and announced that they were trading wives and children.
Oh.
Yeah. Are they just so- I guess to get the wives to go along with it?
Are they so sports brain?
We're like, yeah, we're doing a draft.
Yeah.
There's a bracket system for which wife.
She's like, first pick. I'm actually going to take your son, dude. He seems pretty cool. No, you're cool too, Junior. You're cool too, Junior. Look, if you're around in the next round, I'll definitely think about you. The stats on this kid, though.
Yeah.
Peterson and the former Susan Kekich remained married, but the relationship between Kekich and Marilyn Peterson only lasted a few months.
Oh, man.
The kids just had to be given back to the store, I guess. I don't know.
Did they have a receipt?
By June, the Yankees traded Kekich. Oh, man. Oh, wow. So Peterson must just be world-class.
Sociopath because he was like, okay, I get your wife, I get your kids, and then I go to the Yankees and I'm like, that didn't actually work out. Now it's kind of awkward for me to be around him. And the Yankees were like, yeah, get this deadbeat.
Out of here.
I'm feeling like that's why I'm kind of in a slump right now. Because he's around, he's kind of freaking me out.
Did they go to the World Series that year is the question. I don't think they did. What's his record look like after the switch? Because this could just be like a superstitious thing.
Oh, yeah. Baseball players are super superstitious.
Yeah.
They finished second in the AL East in 1970. Not good enough. What season was this, you said? This was 73.
Oh, 73?
Mm-hmm. They finished fourth in the AL East.
Wow.
Yeah.
Not worth it. Not worth it. I wonder why. Like, you hear about, you know, clubhouse problems. I can't imagine why this would have caused anything.
What's, like, Peterson's explanation?
Oh, Miles, it's actually a pretty beautiful story, according to Peterson. Quote, it's a love story. It wasn't anything dirty, Peterson told a reporter on Q13.
Do we have to say that?
Yeah. I could not be happier with anybody in the world. Mama and I go out and party every night. No, we're still on the honeymoon and it has been a real blessing.
That's in 2013. That's in 2013. He is like, it's a love story.
Yeah.
You think, have you seen, I think you should leave. I basically did the relationship equivalent of, Give me that.
Give me that.
My wife?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Kekich.
Give me your.
Wife, please.
You want a bite of mine? A bite?
No, no.
You get out of here. Is Mike Kekich okay? And the other lady, are they okay? That's a tough one. Yeah.
Family style. Doing a relationship spook of the Beppo style.
Oh, my God.
In 74, he went to Japan to play baseball.
Damn, man.
Oh, man.
You come over with your family and they're like, oh, have you dined with us before? We do things a little bit differently here. I get your wife and kids.
We do things differently. Give me that.
What?
You can have mine if you want, but you probably don't. But, you know, if you want, I'm a little bit tired of them. Wow.
Oh, so first he went to Cleveland, then he went to Japan.
Wow.
You love to see it.
You do love your Fritz Peterson.
Yep.
We were actually talking about the... famous show Wife Swap, for some reason, and Super Producer Justin was, pointed out that there was a Chappelle Show sketch called Spouse Swap?
Trading Spouses. Trading Spouses. Trading Spouses. And that actually came before the TV show Wife Swap. Somebody saw that and was like, let's do that. Wait a second.
I wonder if the trading spaces, people were like, their first idea was Wife Swap? And then they're like, let's ease the public into this concept.
What if people switched rooms in their houses to design it?
And then we'll get up to that.
Yeah.
And there's an era of reality TV that was more so much more unhinged.
They were like human rights violations, basically. And also like the way they were produced. I had a friend who like worked on Elimidate. You remember that one?
Oh, yeah.
That was that TV one.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Elimidate.
It's a truck full of suitors, right? It was like a truck full of them, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
And it would go, eliminate. And yeah, exactly. They'd come out of a bus.
I think you're thinking of Next.
MTV's Next, I believe.
Let me use my stupid memory for that one. All of those shows at the time, like Shipmates. Do you remember Shipmates? Where they would put a blind date couple on a fucking cruise ship?
Wow.
And then just feed them fucking alcohol and like let the, let shit just completely devolve on camera.
Wow.
Like where you would see, like looking from our perspective now, like this guy's like an abusive fucking freak who's losing it because he thought like this woman was going to hook up with him and he's too drunk to like figure it out.
Yeah.
And that was just like the whole format. Like, I don't know, let the guy crash out on camera drunk.
Yeah, yeah.
Shocking no one got thrown overboard.
That we know of.
That we know of. That's very true.
We know of. Yeah.
So much of reality television is like, what if like we got people drunk, but didn't acknowledge that they were drunk and just pretended this is how people behave.
Yeah, exactly.
Behind the scenes.
They're like, you need more booze?
You need more booze? I feel like you're a little thirsty. Yeah.
Another friend worked on Jersey Shore, like who used to work on real world. And I remember she was saying that that first season, they were so used to the production culture of boozing up your, your cast people to get them to do shit on camera. She was like, this was the first show we didn't do a single fucking thing like in terms of because they were just getting after it themselves and they were like hey we're about to go to this other place i'm like what i thought you guys were hanging out like no no we're going up like shit okay uh we got the camera crew together they're like they're like they were fucking they could barely keep they couldn't keep up with the fucking jersey shore cast people so they were natural yeah
yeah yeah they knew they were in their element they were in their element.
Well, congrats to the happy newish couple.
Yeah.
I hope they go the distance.
I hope so.
If anything, out of spite. If anything, just spite.
That is a good interview question. Some of it is spite. You're like, 5%? Is it 40%? How much of it is you picturing the other couple in your head as... I think that's hard to stop at a certain point.
I get it.
Or if they're like.
it's actually none of that. Like, we don't think about that at all. Like, they don't know, they don't realize that that's what it's about.
Yeah.
Or the Good Morning America, I don't watch the show. Are they still the hosts?
No, no, no.
I think they've moved on.
Yeah. I think they were fired for it, right? Or like, one of them was?
Yeah, it could have been.
It feels like it was treated like a scandal in a way.
That I was like, well, not really.
Because according to them, they said that functionally, they were all saying like, the marriages were pretty much over.
Sure, sure.
So it wasn't like, so they weren't, That's why these couples are not be like, they're cheating pieces of shit. They were just like, yeah, shit was cooked anyway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I will say this. He did say, this is what Andrew Hsu said, quote, I had to accept my own part in marriage not working out for me and not understanding myself well enough and not understanding what matters in a relationship well enough to find the right person for me. And that has been an extraordinary gift. I had to grow through a lot of pain and a lot of struggle and a lot of humility. I think the magic of love is when you go from a need to giving.
Hey, that's, man, that's been just some therapy.
Hell yeah.
So, like, it feels very, like, everyone's kind of like, yeah, all's well that ends well, pretty much.
Good.
Yeah.
You know, good for everybody.
And I'm saying, bro, this is the hotter couple, man. Yeah.
You guys are killing it.
You guys are killing it.
This is what it should have been.
I will say the story update that I'm waiting for is the wife of the guy from the Coldplay concert hooking up with Chris Martin from Coldplay.
Oh. That would be.
That's a fun full circle.
That would be a lot of fun, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
I'm doing the Britney Broski to that one.
Okay.
National Nut Day indeed.
Yeah.
National Nut Day. And finally, continued fallout from the hit movie, You Can See Everything.
Oh, yeah. Have you seen it?
Not yet. Oh, okay. no I've been never mind no.
I've I've read a lot about it I just haven't had three.
Hours yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's worth your three hours but uh we've moved to the next phase of this being like a culture phenomenon yeah it's.
Gonna be it's one of the top couples costumes for Halloween.
I didn't think about that.
Nathan Fielder and Elizabeth Holmes, which people are saying, you could always go as a Billy Evans and Pamela Henderson, which is a reference that you don't.
Get, but not yet, not yet, but you will. And you'll love it.
Our writer, Jan was pointing out that like, I think people are just going with black turtleneck, bright red lip for Elizabeth Holmes.
Yeah.
But for Nathan, the thing that you really need to lock down is that $ 7. 99 Hamilton Bull schoolmate headphones.
Yeah.
Which.
Wow, people.
I had this in the back of my mind the whole movie. So he's like. Listening to the audio that they're getting the whole time. So he has these headphones on the whole time and.
They look like the oldest, like the, the ones that are made out of that cheap black foam, you know, that's like, uh, has a lot in common with the sock they give you when you're trying on shoes at the like.
Really fully disposed.
Yeah.
One time use.
But I was like, I was assuming that like, that can't be what it is, that it has to be like some expensive piece of sound equipment. that he's that just.
Looks like i have a feeling like if it's like the sound guy who's providing it it's probably part of like a whole kit for that whole wireless setup for him to have the monitor that like the guy with the cans is like dude i blow through these fucking things constantly i'm not gonna fucking spend 100 bucks like yeah i get them for eight they don't need to be super high fidelity yeah they get the job done thank you hamilton bull school mate headphone.
Yeah, it's like a waitress with a pen. You borrow it, they lose it. They're like, no, I'm not getting the good stuff. You're just getting the cheap shit.
This is a fucking bick full.
Yeah.
Have fun with it.
Also, multiple lookalike contests being held in New York. A lot of Timothee Chalamet contests.
New York is the fucking like capital of lookalikes.
Is it in Washington Square Park? Like all of them are?
It is in Washington Square Park.
I imagine so.
1 p.m. Sunday, October 25th in Washington Square Park.
Be there.
Elizabeth Holmes, Nathan Fielder lookalike contest. And then there's also just Nathan Fielder lookalike contest happening.
I'm just really excited for all the guys that are going prematurely gray to just really have their season.
Let's go.
It's always looked good, but now you're even more validated.
It's great.
Yeah, I feel like Brent Weinbach kind of looks like Nathan Fielder. Yeah, he could do well for sure. I mean, he's got his own thing going.
Right obviously but you know yeah i think nathan fielder should enter brent weinbach let's talk about that yep what about that maybe yeah nathan you too good what's going on i think.
He's gonna show up to these himself like.
Probably if anything this was put on by nathan fielder that's like a larger psyop yeah and he's just like he's gonna be in the shadows like this how.
Many times do you think the cia has approached him and been like Hey, would you be interested?
He's like, no, I'm Canadian.
We love the way your mind works.
We have a little bit of that juice. It would be really interesting.
He's like, what would you have done with Gaddafi?
I'm going to see how you think about stuff.
How do we know he wasn't already? How do we know that Venezuela was not just a buzz marketing campaign for that sweatsuit? Yeah.
I mean, honestly, I don't put anything past it.
The Nathan Fielder episode, he goes to a struggling Nike, and he's like, and the challenge, get the Nike tech suit trending again. And he's like, okay, we're going to take Maduro and you put him in a Nike tech suit.
Send him 20 of these for free. Just see.
Just see what happens. I mean, then it also lost all of its fucking cool factor when like fucking Ted Cruz and those other jokers started wearing tech suits to.
Be like, hey, look, my fucking. Well, not all of his schemes work. That's true. That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
We don't know about the graveyard of failed schemes that he's got going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sure there's for every for every episode that we see, there had to have been like three to five threads that just completely went dry on them that they're like, yeah, we can't. This isn't going to go anywhere. Yeah.
It is.
There are these like series of billboards that play into, you can see everything that I remember driving to a recording, taking pictures of and being like, what the fuck is this? Is this like a Nathan Fielder scheme? The like founders, inventors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's so weird that it did end up tying in.
And then you end up finding out in a very weird way. Again, check out, check it out if you've got three hours.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah.
All right, that's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like the show. It means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. Bye.