Dig DeepXYZ: Mile High Club Confessions

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I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen, and I'm Emerson Tenny.

Welcome back to Desperately Devoted. Hi guys, Hi, you look so cute. It's my favorite part of Thursday. See you getting to connect with our listeners. Hi, everybody out there. So earlier this week, we talked about episode fourteen, and we're going to follow that up here with a couple of things from this episode inspired me for the idea that I have. So one is in episode fourteen, which was called Loves in the Air. This was the episode where you had three be asked by Rex if she would be a dominatrix and if she would get into that kind of sex. I even want to be so judgmental as I call it a perversion, because that that feels like I'm judging. Is kink not a judgment?

No?

No, I don't think it's considered a pejorative to say, and it's just what it's called.

It's kay, it's a kink. Okay. So so Brion Rex Get Kinky, and the combo of them being kinky and the title being called Love Is in the Air made me think about all the crazy sex and different things that happen in the air on airplanes.

Wile High Club, Oh wow.

So yes, we can definitely most obviously talk about who is in or has been or frantasized about being in the Mile High Club, but also just I feel like I don't know every other TikTok and Instagram reel I'm seeing these days is somebody losing their shit on an airplane, and I just feel like there's something about being in the air, like I'll start with this and then you guys, okay, Like I remember this was actually pre cell phone, but even more with cell phones, although now there's plenty of planes where you can still connect from your cell phone, and I hate that because now you have to, like you have to choose to opt out of using your cell phone on an airplane, whereas you used to just be able to not use it. And so for me,

I used to call I used to think of it as like a spa day, Like I'm in a plane for these four hours and no one can reach me, and I can't do anything about anything, and it's the most relaxing place to be, to be in a plane. Cut to now you can get a hold of me. Plus my anxiety and fear about flying every time I take off just gets worse and worse every time I fly.

And I will say airlines are the least relaxing places nowadays.

Yeah. But all that said, what do we think is love in the air? I will say, I am not part of the mile high club.

I think I might. I have like.

Too much anxiety to try to join the male high club, certainly in any type of public plane, which is really the only type of plan I'm flying on remotely frequently these days. That said, I find planes. This is this is my kink I'm revealing to you guys. And I really have not told this to like anyone, so lean in I.

Was gonna say, but now just make sure you get it into the mic.

I find planes very erotic, especially like an overnight flight or like a like a long like a twelve hour flight. There is something and I'll tell you what it is, that is erotic to me because it's not actually like the logistics of like trying to figure out how you would have sex with someone.

Okay again, I'm just saying these Thursday Bonus episodes are they're the ones that cross the mother daughter line. I think quite, I tell you quite how often. Yes, Okay, I'm it's nic It's honestly, I feel.

Like it could be weirder than if I said it's having sex with someone.

I think.

The thing that's erotic is I find liminal space very sexy, I think, and also time, like there's this magical suspension. You are literally flying through time. You know, you were losing a day, you are gaining a day, Like the boundaries and the laws of our present reality and time cease to exist because we were actually hurtling through.

Time in this kind of liminal space.

And to me, that feeling of being untethered from the things that ground us in our reality is sexy. And I've never actually had anyone like participate in feeling like that's erotic with me on a plane, Nor do I know how that would even necessarily happen, although I see that you can have your own suite on like Emirates, and that's a big dream of mine.

One of those are really fancy.

The fantasy.

Yeah, but yeah, I don't know there's something about long air travel and being in space like that that I find erotic.

I need to adopt your mentality about flying Emerson, because I do not find it to be an erotic place whatsoever.

I am like I'm.

Still masked on a plane, like I am literally sending out all the signals of like don't interact with me at all, Like I don't find them to be inherently sexy. And I think the Mile High Club is clearly meant for days of your uh when flying was when like now we've gotten we have no space, we have no nothing's private, Like there's no way to do it.

Those line for the bathroom is so bad, and the bathroom line.

Is always like you know, forty p the whole freaking plane I was lined up blocking the I mean, there's just no way to go about it unless it's like private jet or older planes and so yeah, but you've got.

The government now saying that they want us to stop leakings and they want us to start dressing up to get on planes. I mean, can you imagine.

If they want to rip out all the seats and start putting in couches and bars and live music, then yeah, I'll dress.

Up, right, I know.

But otherwise let us have our sweatpants and our socks. Thanks, but everyone should keep their shoes on on a plane. I do stand by that. I'm not into people taking their feet out, but I will say I do think one thing that's great about air travel are really fun is you never know who you're going to meet, right.

It is an environment where you're surrounded by strangers for a very specific amount of time and you're all sharing this space, and so I do think it's a fun ground for meeting people. I have a fun story my one of my best friends, Molly tarlav and I were flying to Chicago to promote a movie that we were in. Okay, and so we were in a three seater row, but the aisle seat was empty, I think, and so we, you know, we had bunched up, so I was in the middle, she was in the window or something like that.

And then this guy, and he was a cute guy. We were kind of happy that our aisle seat was empty. But this cute guy, once the plane took off, got up and came and sat down in that and that seat next to us, and then he didn't say anything. He didn't introduce himself. He didn't interact with us, and we were kind of like, well, if you're gonna sit here and you know, block our free seat here, you should probably introduce yourself. So we struck up a conversation with him. We all hit it off, we had a good fun time whatever. It wasn't inherently flirting necessarily, but I was newly single, so I was like, maybe it is.

I don't know.

But then that was that.

We landed and we went our separate ways and YadA yadaa or whatever. And then a few months later I bumped into him back in La coming out of a bar. We did exchange numbers that time, spoiler alayer. Still nothing came of it. But a few years after that I saw him pop up as a contestant on The Bachelorette.

Okay, that's insane.

That says to me. That reinforces my whole theory. I'm completely like taking a left turn now my theory on entanglement, Like I have a big belief in the quantum physics of entanglement. Like yes, there's just no way that's too weird that I know, you know, like did you so obviously you never crossed pras what happened to him on the batch? What did you watch the show? Do you know what I was trying.

I was trying to remember what because because I was trying to remember who he is, what his name is, if he's still in my phone? And I texted Molly before we hopped on to be like, do you remember that guy's name? And we can't, for life of us remember.

Sorry, that's funny, but.

I think he had maybe he even had a bit of a scandal on the show, Like I think he was destined and then he was off very quickly because something happened.

I don't know, I had an entangled meant weird thing happened. Yes, I was on a plane when I was married to your dad and going back and forth between you.

Like, please don't tell me you joined the Mile High Club.

No, no, no, no, no. Your dad was with me. I was by myself. I think it was for little around the time, around the time I was doing Lowis and Clark. No, I'm not going to see that's the mother daughter line. You don't want to know about the sex your dad and I had. We did have sex at you know, because you're here, So there you go.

Hear that you guys joined the Mile High Club.

I just didn't want to hear that you joined it with someone else while you were married to my dad.

Oh oh yeah, no, that didn't happen. So anyways, but I did meet this man next to me, and he was super smart, and like, you know, I just I think, and he was in the business. I can't remember, like which studio he was at, but I just remember being like, oh, that's a cool conversation and whatever. Ten years later, when I was divorced and he told me he was divorced too, we met again and then we actually started dating. But then it turned out that he was lying, that he wasn't actually divorced, and so that took me a couple of months to figure out that he was lying. And I was basically the other woman, which I didn't know about.

You want to be met on a plane and he had a lot of baggage and.

Then ten yeah, shut up, I just I think.

I think.

I think, Andrea, are you exploring your writing career with enough passion? Because I hire her? I feel like it's.

It little just for those But that's wild, Terry. Wait, so you said it was ten years in between when you first met him and then when you guys do.

It was ten years in between.

How did you meet again?

The second time I met him again in New York at a restaurant, it was actually my first Thanksgiving not having custody of you, Like, it was my first Thanksgiving that I spent without you, and it was very hard for me. I think that's something people who are divorced, like maybe we don't hear enough about when you have shared custody like that can be a real skill that you have to learn. It's a muscle you have to understand how to compartmentalize, you know, what the holidays are without your children when you're in that situation. We could talk about that more in another episode on Thursday, when someone on Desperate Housewives gets divorced and has to have Yeah, right, that doesn't really happen with Julie and Susan because it

seems like Julie's just always with Susan. Yeah.

I think She's like, Carl, no.

Thanks, I'm gonna say yeah.

Anyways, So we met at a restaurant and I remembered being like, I feel like I know you, Like why do I feel like I know you? And there was definitely, and then of course we figured it out, and then of course he lied, and then that was disappointing.

That is so disappointing.

Okay, so you have you ever with anybody else at any other time and part of.

The Mile High Club. I feel like if any of us would have done it, it would have been you with all.

The exposure to because I'm a whore.

Or because I just have had because you've probably had moreamorous I was going to say.

You travel experiences and now you're done.

I'm not getting you, know, although we do have to keep putting it out there that I am not celibate. I have not like somebody on the internet start has started this rumor that Terry Hatcher's celibate. Terry Hatcher's not celibate, that she just doesn't have anyone that she wants to have sex.

With, but she can find someone or your I use the yet word.

Okay, I'm going to be honest, because that's what we're doing. I did have sex in a plane once, but it was a private plane and I don't feel good about it because I didn't I don't like the person. It's something I would like to block out of my mind. I, Oh, God, I know who it is. No, you don't. I don't think you do.

I actually quick, I was thinking as someone we didn't like with a private plane.

But I'm glad that you didn't have sex with that person that I'm thinking of. God, I don't know who in another country.

Oh yeah, no not that person. Okayk God, no not God?

So so, uh I you're a member, but you're not like I.

Feel like that did happen. But it's more like, uh, I feel like that did happen, but the whole idea of like doing it in the bathroom of like a regular plane, like that you see in the movies. You see in the movies, like I don't even want to touch the sink, Like I go in there with all my antibacterial wipes and I'm like, you know, taking the paper towels and touching the doorknob and touching the toilet flush, like like how could anybody actually have sex?

And also three.

Flight attendants and like a mom and a baby a standing outside the doorway.

No, well, that's what I would love to know.

I would love to hear if we have any flight attendant listeners. I would love to hear if you've called anybody trying to join the Mile High Club on any of your flights, and what do you do in that situation?

And I want to hear if you've successfully joined the Mile High Club, not in a private plane, and you had a good experience, what the hell were you doing?

Tell us?

Please write in I want to know.

And there's some to live out her fantasy erotic flight.

So circling back to like Rex and Bree and and the whole, like handcuffs. I'll also admit I have handcuffs with fur on them. I have nobody to use them with, but I have them. They're in my drawer.

At least they're free, so they have.

A few things. I have a few articles of clothing made of leather. I'll just say that.

Yeah, I feel like I can't comment on what I have or don't have on the start.

We've met the boundary.

No, that is what we're doing. Well maybe right, maybe maybe we're we're not doing that that I was going to say, that is what we're doing. That is what's special about this mother daughter daughter's relationship that you guys can tell me.

Shit, I can tell you lots of things. I'm not going to say anything. Concretely, all I'll say is, and you know, I don't not.

Get the kink that Rex and for here exploring, And I think there's a place for her sometimes.

You what, wait, I think they're going.

A place for it sometimes, right, Okay, in a consensual way.

Yeah.

I think I think we should be proud of Brie. I think you know, she's trying for her partner. She's into the idea. It's so antithetical to who she is, and she's still trying. That's pretty remarkable. That's someone who's like, I'm showing up full in this relationship and I'm going to give it my best go. I think that's a good takeaway.

And I think.

Everyone should explore all of their fantasies and feel safe to do so and empowered to do so.

Yeah, there's too much shame around sex. I mean, I completely admit that that's the generation I grew up in, was the you know, uh yeah, yeah, a lot of shame about asking for what you might actually want. And I feel like less shame for you, Andrea, and no shame for you.

And I think that the like the generational thing is probably really really complicated to unpack, but I do think yes, asking having agency and asking for what you want and not being ashamed of it is probably come a long way. I think consent plays a huge role. I would say for my generation, like we're still working on that of being comfortable, and I think that hopefully, Emerson, you feel like with your generation, consent is really really like at the forefront of every sexual experience that you enter into.

It's really definitely much more talked about and ideally at the forefront. Not to say that whatever, you know, it's not a perfect world that we live in, but I think I will leave it. Whatever your kink is, whether it's an airplane or whether it's a BDSM bondage moment. I do think there's something And I think when you're with someone which is the kind of person maybe you should be having sex with who you feel safe enough to do this with. I think there is something very sexy about being able to un self consciously describe what you want and what you find hot and so, and like even just talking, like even just in an intimate setting, talking about that to each other before you act on anything, that can really set the mood.

So, yeah, put that out into the air.

Yeah, it's really brave. It's really it's really trust is the basis for all of it, like trust and honesty and letting go of shame and just recognizing that we are all human. And I guarantee you we are all thinking so much more the same than we believe it. You know what, I.

Guarantee we are all thinking that the liminal space of airplanes is deeply erotic.

I'll be thinking about it the next time I fly, So thanks, thanks for that.

I will too as I take my antibacterial wipes and wipe down everything around my chair. All right, well, thank you for joining us and let us let us know your thoughts on these conversations. We're interested to hear what you have to say, and we will be there for you next week because we are desperately devoted to you

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