Episode 520 w/ JasonMartin & Glasses Malone

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0:55 Now, one of these brothers we had, but this other brother, we've been trying to get down, and we're trying to get him on the show to give him some flowers. I just want to go ahead. I want to start the controversy off top.

1:08 Right now in the intro.

1:09 In the intro right now. Like, listen, listen. We're going to get straight into it. I'm going to say it. They didn't say it. I said it. The best television show on TV, internet, YouTube. I don't give a fuck what you can watch on.

1:33 The airplane, on the Greyhound bus.

1:37 In your local pass mark, in Publix, wherever you can watch.

1:41 This shit, you can watch this.

1:44 And I'm telling you, you know, I want to say rest in peace to John Singleton.

1:48 Yes, sir. Let's make some noise for that.

1:49 Well, in case you don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about Paul and Motherfuckers.

1:55 All right.

1:57 So here's what's crazy. Here's what I want to tell you about the show, right?

2:03 Boom.

2:05 John Singleton made Boys in the Hood, correct?

2:08 Yes.

2:09 I didn't know John Singleton. You know, John Singleton, before he passed away, he lived down the block from me out here.

2:14 Yeah.

2:14 I don't know if this was just a full-time career, but, you know. So, anyway, let me break it all down so I'm going to make it make sense. He goes to Def Jam when he does Baby Boy. And he says that Baby Boy is going to be Boys in the Hood Part 2. So he wanted, like, you know, East Coast people to come and kind of, like, check this out. This is before it hit the theaters. This is before, like, you know, like a test screening. I believe it's called a test screening. So I didn't know at the time. I'm green like a motherfucker. I didn't know, like, when a person asks you, a question you ain't supposed to be like give him your your honest honest opinion so he was like how does people like the film and everybody was like yo this is a great film.

2:59 But then he asked me.

3:01 And like a kind of like i was like but that's not boys in the hood part two.

3:05 Thanks right i didn't know i was too honest right i.

3:08 Was like i said that that's a great film But that's Baby Boy. It wasn't called Baby Boy at the time. I'm not sure. I don't remember exactly. But my statement wasn't about the title. My statement was about the content following the other content. Because I'm an East Coaster. So I analyze West Coast shit more than y'all. Probably like y'all with us. So I told him that and I didn't.

3:32 Realize I developed a relationship because... He respected fuck. That's John.

3:38 He was like, yo, Nori. I believe that you're right. It has to stand on its own. So from there, we developed a relationship. Years later, years later, I see like one episode of Snowfall.

3:54 And I go, John, I need to be in Snowfall.

3:59 He says to me, man. You will never be in Snowfall.

4:05 That's just my friend. Also, he gave it back to me. He got you back. He said, you will never. And I said, damn, John.

4:14 He said, you can't pass for anybody other than a New York linker.

4:19 He said, your accent is so horrible.

4:21 Now, mind you, I'm not realizing what Snowfall is.

4:24 Yeah.

4:26 Now, I'm watching a couple of episodes. I did not watch the whole shit.

4:30 Boom.

4:31 Now, fast forward to nowadays. Your friend says, we got the drop.

4:38 So I'm like, the drop? I'm like, no, no, no. We approve Glasses Malone and Problem.

4:43 He goes, no, no, no, the drop. I'm thinking, like, he thinks I'm an idiot.

4:48 He's like, the drop.

4:49 He's like, no, this is, I didn't watch Snowfall.

4:53 He said, okay.

4:54 And I go to watch The Drive.

4:55 I couldn't believe you didn't watch No Fall.

4:56 No, I watched some episodes. You know what it was?

4:58 I watched episode two, season two, episode two, and season five, episode six. That shit don't make sense. And then I'm sitting like, see, I ain't what these niggas is doing.

5:10 Even though Freeway Rick Ross sat on the same fucking show and broke down the whole shit. Now let me make it make sense. So I go.

5:19 And I watch episode one of The Drive.

5:25 And I ain't going to lie, I almost wanted to get into an argument with my wife. Because I just wanted to be like, you got to go. Like, I just got to sit here.

5:33 And I logged in so much. And then I channeled John Singleton.

5:38 And I said, from heaven. And I said, listen, man, I could have been in a snowfall. I could have been in a drop. The drop, they would have.

5:48 Been like, that's a New York nigga.

5:49 Now, let me just tell y'all something. From the beginning.

5:55 New York has curated hip-hop.

5:58 Facts.

5:58 It has been a force where people follow. And I'm not sure if this is like a slight negative or a slight just, it's just reality. Gang-banging culture is probably the most attractive culture.

6:22 In the universe.

6:24 Probably.

6:26 I could not help watching it and saying, you could, you Mark. I'm getting, making up my name. I keep not, I can't understand. You're banging a condom.

6:39 I was, I'm downstairs talking.

6:40 To my man, Bruce Willis.

6:41 He's like, yo, what's up, man?

6:43 Yo, what's up, me Mark?

6:44 He's not really Bruce Willis.

6:45 You know what I'm saying?

6:46 Buster.

6:46 Like, you know what I'm saying, you could.

6:48 I'm like, what the fuck is, what are you doing? You know?

6:52 Yo, listen to me. Now, I gotta pass y'all the mic because.

6:57 First off, the.

6:59 Scene opening with you.

7:00 Yeah, it was dope. Come on. I'm sorry.

7:05 I'm sorry to be so long-winded. No, it's good to hear from you, bro. Here's what I love, right? I'm born and raised in New York, and I can't be from nowhere else, right? But I lived in Miami, and I hate when I see a Miami movie, and they're saying, this is Hialeah, and they ain't motherfucking, you know, Jungle City is somewhere.

7:24 You know what I mean? Yeah.

7:26 I hate when they do that to New York. Good shit about that shit. When y'all saying y'all ain't watch, I can tell.

7:32 When y'all saying y'all over there, I can tell.

7:35 And then it's like, you know those extras are actually not extras. So let me just say something. This is me, pure fanboy. Like, how did y'all get involved with the drop? Like, because y'all involved with the creative process, the music, everything. I knew it, but I didn't know it. I knew it because I was like, damn, this music is put together too good. This is the gangster Quincy Jones that did this.

8:06 You know what I'm saying? Like, what the hell? I didn't know who you were. I didn't know who you were. That intro song. I don't know who it was. The visuals, this is amazing. I swear to God.

8:14 But let's break that down. How did y'all get involved? Like, what happened?

8:18 Now, as far as for me, we were at the Not Like Us video shoot. My guy, Jimmy Chris, shout out to him, Jim Bob, he walks over to me and said, yeah, we're working on a spinoff for Snowfall. I want you to be involved. I'm like, oh, for sure. So months pass, months pass. Then one day we have a meeting, and I go to the meeting, and Lowrance Dobson is there. It was the executive music producer of 1500, Lowrance 1500. We meet, and then like three days later, they're like, yo... Here's this beat. We just need a voice on it real quick to clear a sample. I'm like, all right. So I sent the first verse back. That ended up being Ryder, the song that you end up walking out to. Okay, okay. So I ended up getting

8:57 a random call. I'm like, man, the director want to talk. I mean, the creator want to talk to you. I'm like... She made me want to talk to him. He's like, man, whatever it is, just do it. He's like, I need you to change this. Artillery's not a gangbanger. What are you, gangbanging? So now I'm like, what's even going on? I change it up, send it back. I get a call.

9:14 Wait, wait, but you knowing.

9:15 This is for the.

9:16 I don't know. They told me this was to clear a sample. Clear a sample. You're doing this blindly, bitch. I'm doing it blind. It's two separate times. It's blind. So I get there. He's like, pull up. I want you to see what's going on. So then he's like, man, have you read the script? I'm like, what script? It's like, no, you didn't know what was going on when you wrote that?

9:33 I'm like, hell no. The beat just made me get into that vibe. He's like, okay, it's our day. All right, it's okay. I need you to come on set. So I get on set and I'm watching him do the shit. So they're shooting the pilot. So we hadn't been greenlit yet. Episode one is the pilot. So now the pilot gets greenlit and I get the call. Hey man, we want you to come do all the music. And it's like, oh shit, okay. Now this is something crazy. So then Lorraine's been there. That's my brother. Been on for 20 years.

10:03 Malcolm Spellman, who's the show creator, gave me full control musically. He gave me like, he said, brother, the way that first song came out, It's ordained. You just go. Right. And then from then on out, they brought us in the writing room. I got to the writing room first. Jimmy Clips put in a call. We was talking about glasses.

10:21 I'm like, I need my bro here because he's just a genius. Right. He gets there now. Now we cooking. We cooking with hot grease. Now I'm in the writing room. Now he's starting to write. Right. Other people starting to write and then they need another song and they need another song and they need another one and another one.

10:38 It's like, oh, shit. This is about to be different. But the fact that we didn't even get no callbacks. It was just like, nah, you about to tell us what this music should sound like. Because this story is really about young brothers like us. We was the 11, 12-year-olds watching them dudes from the porch like, damn, look at Eazy coming down the street. Look at Quick. I'm good at staying as Eazy, but you could tell.

11:00 Well, no, it's not Eazy. It's not Dre, but you could, it's.

11:04 No, but they show on the show, Eazy and Dre's time had already passed.

11:08 It's 91. It's 91. Dre is about to do the chronic in 92. Like, they already come out is what I meant. But they're running adjacent. It's not like you're going to hear us mention these people. It's not like we're recreating them. When they tried to say Franklin was a thing on Freeway, this is not that. Okay, okay.

11:24 These are their own characters.

11:25 It's just people. All of these people are the same person. Like, Dr.

11:30 Dre is not this unique figure until he starts to work. But, you know, the city raised you that way. It's character arts, different type of people. So they're going to feel, you're going to notice, you're going to look at Lamar and see quick.

11:43 You're going to see.

11:44 You're going to see tears. You're going to see. I get Kendrick vibes on it. Yeah. Not to mention the name is Lamar. He's a Medusa though.

11:51 Lamar's a Medusa.

11:52 In concept, right?

11:52 Because that person that grew up in the neighborhood, you know what I mean? That's not a part of a gang, but grew up in the same culture. So I feel like that person exists. You see all of these different people that came out the same communities that we came up.

12:06 That's just different.

12:07 I must have rewinded that time, that part where every single gang is chasing them.

12:13 Yeah, that's so funny. You know what's fucked up? It's like, I can't relate to that. Like, I can't relate to not being... Like, we know don't go over there and that's it.

12:24 But....

12:26 Like, y'all really territorial. Like, even in Snowfall, when I seen Franklin break it down, I used to follow this guy named Alex Alfonso, I believe.

12:37 Alex Alonso.

12:38 Alex Alonso.

12:39 The gang, the gang, the gang.

12:41 So I used to watch, and I used to be like, damn, because I used to be fascinated how. You can be from 90... I'm just giving you a 91st Street, and this dude be from 92nd Street, and y'all never see each other.

12:55 Man, it be that close, like... Uh-huh. And you know the whole city. I'm talking about every part, whether it's County Watch, you know it by gangs.

13:03 Right, right, right.

13:04 Like, I know the streets as an adult, but when I was younger, I just knew it by gangs. Oh, this the Monas, this the Carvers, this the PJs, this the Gray Streets, this.

13:12 The Bonnie Hunter.

13:13 Right.

13:13 Before, I knew every street there.

13:15 Wow.

13:15 And you just know it like, it's like second nature before you learn.

13:18 The street names.

13:19 And then, is it automatically programmed not to go there, or.

13:26 Well, I can't say that for me.

13:28 Okay.

13:28 For me, I was gonna probably get fucked up.

13:31 You know what I mean?

13:31 Fuck it. Right, right.

13:32 Because I went everywhere. I... D-Boy and everything, you start just knowing people. And then my mom was really outgoing, too. So I went to people, neighborhoods, whether I was supposed to go there or not, and usually ended up being okay. You know, every now and then you might get jumped or fucked up. But for the most part, it's pretty cool.

13:48 What's the rapper name again?

13:50 Artillery.

13:51 Artillery, right?

13:52 At one point in the- Shout out to Buddy. Artillery was hanging in a Crip neighborhood with Crips.

13:58 Yeah.

13:58 All right.

13:59 Blew me away.

14:00 That's when you was- Yeah, so the story with that is- You got to break that down. So his grandma lives around the corner.

14:07 Okay.

14:09 Meaning like we've watched him grow up. This is my homie. Kind of like Spider-Lope's grandma lives in my neighborhood with the Westside Pirates. Wow. His grandma been living over there my whole life. So Spider-Lope would be over there in the West. So all of these stories are pulled from things out of reality, like the bus running and chasing.

14:26 That shit has happened. That's not like no fake nothing. I felt it. Yeah.

14:30 Think about it. I got on through gaming them.

14:32 Right.

14:33 Right?

14:33 So I'll be hanging on Cedar with FaZe, G-Rod, Gang. Cedar, that's Pauro.

14:37 Yeah, all Pauro's. Like, a dude that position me.

14:40 Yeah.

14:41 Right.

14:41 Yeah, and everybody you know. So it's not.

14:43 I ain't gonna lie.

14:44 I didn't know what to color to wear.

14:46 Just come to New York. You are. You're good. You know what? Let me keep it neutral.

14:53 Once people hear you talk, you're going.

14:55 To be fine. I'm not going to lie to you.

14:59 Let's get back to it.

15:00 Remember that question that we just talked about? But I'm not going to lie to you. I have been approached, but every time, as soon as I open my.

15:07 Mouth, they're like, yeah. And that, to me, one thing I appreciate about this show that... really was important and I think Michael Spellman did a really great job of and we all was it was important to us instituting it was how much love and passes it is. I think that's what I want people to get from the show. Like, remember the initial thing is James, Jay Loco was in the house with all of the Bloods. He had made an arrangement to where his brother and his little female cousin was.

15:33 Going to be safe.

15:34 That's the first episode.

15:35 Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, I forgot that part. I did not forget that part. So it's a bunch of passes. And even in the running scene, he runs to one last crib at the liquor store and he's like, he's like, man, call you out, man. So it's a lot more passes than you think. You know what I'm saying? I don't think I'm here if I'm in the past. I didn't gangbang.

15:51 Right.

15:51 Some would say I'm gang affiliated because of where I grew up. Yeah. But I'm not. I don't have the same rules. So it was passes given out for me. If I'm coming over here to your neighborhood and I'm coming in peace to do music, 12 times out of 10, they was like, nah, he good.

16:05 Because I noticed when Lamar went into the barbershop, he announced his brother.

16:10 But then they said, where you from? And he said, hey.

16:13 He switched the subject real quick.

16:14 He was like, hey.

16:14 And I was like, wait a minute.

16:15 You heard of J-Logo?

16:17 Yeah, yeah. You heard of J-Logo?

16:19 Yeah.

16:19 So now, this is pure ignorance. I have to ask, you know what I'm saying?

16:22 Especially for people who've never traveled to Los Angeles or California. When, is it that much dangerous to actually say, yo, I'm from 60s, but I don't beg?

16:36 Yeah. You bang. Once you say you in it, you in it.

16:42 If you name a gang, you're from there.

16:45 Okay. So.

16:46 What's the proper way for a neutral?

16:49 A person that's neutral, a 50... I don't bang.

16:53 You just got to be a man. I ain't going to lie, sometimes.

16:56 But what if they say you don't bang, but what's your neighborhood anyway? Oh, they do that too.

17:00 But that's if they think... So it's the energy, right? It's the energy, like... If you feel like a soldier, they're going to keep pressing your line to see exactly because they think you they think you kind of being a mark.

17:13 They think you're not announcing where you're from.

17:15 OK, OK.

17:16 So because, you know, Parico tells a story.

17:18 G Parico tells a story where he was with Denver Lions and they was asking me where he's from. He was like, I don't bang. And they just they could smell it on you.

17:25 Right.

17:26 They knew that he was saying. They was like, nah, nigga, you from somewhere. You know what I mean?

17:30 We finna find out today. So where your parents live? Where your grandmother live? That's what it is.

17:35 The next one is where your grandma stay.

17:36 Because now they sniffing you out as a member that don't want to be accountable for whatever it is that's coming.

17:42 Yeah, you got to live in that shit. Like, it was tons of times. You get past the initial question, like, where you from? Like, y'all don't bang. Where your mama stay? Where your grandma stay? I grew up in the West, though. Oh, you do bang. I'm like, nah, don't think I stay in the West, though. And they'll respect the fact that you ain't lying. Right. More so than anything. And then sometimes it's just like, bro. A nigga know when somebody ain't really on. Exactly. Right. And of course we highlight when it gets drastic and dangerous, but man, most of the time, man, niggas is like, even if you, even if you do bang the hood back, they be like, all right, then for sure. I got cousins from over there.

18:17 And it's going to go like that.

18:18 Because the hit-up is really assessing the threat. It's not just like a thing. It's I'm assessing the threat. Who am I around? Who is over here where we at? Who are you in this space? Are you a threat? So, you know, most of the time, man, I'm from Seventh Street Watch Cribs. If we don't have no problems... most time over, like, right, right?

18:37 You know where you at.

18:38 And this could be a blood, too, as well.

18:39 Yeah, it's just like, it's just an acknowledgement. Okay, we at it at it. Not necessarily. But I will say this, though.

18:43 If it's a clip, you might get it.

18:44 If it's a blood, you might get it. I'll say, what he's speaking on more is 2026. In 1991, though, it was on. And that won the show? Way more extra now than it is right now. Because, you know, I'm going to stay on this for a second because, you.

18:58 Know, a lot of people are, a lot of people, of course, um, um, We had never heard, at first, crip on crip violence. That's the first time, like, I believe, I believe it was known at first, like, up to about in the 90s, that blood stuck together and crips had war with crips. Would you say that's, like, predominantly true?

19:21 The first crip on crip beef was in 79.

19:22 Yeah.

19:23 With Raymond Washington? no it was the 60s and 8th race oh wow that's how it started then it was the east coast 8th race is monster cody yep that's cody said it and draws and i'm said okay and then it's the east coast right where spider is from spider locust from and the hoover's where uh schoolboy q okay so these were like it was multiple crypts that's already starting to be big ones in 79 all right so gangbanging has always been a territorial thing there is this over all looming of, of bloods and Crips, but it don't necessarily have to be like that. Probably when you get into the nineties and the two thousands, but it is certain people that's going to go all the way for that too, because they look at you as

20:00 an enemy.

20:01 All right.

20:03 It's a feel you have for it.

20:05 It's definitely, the geographics really are tough to dial down. But if you grew up in, it's kind of like, okay, I was watching Juice on the way here, right? And I can say the same, like, why the fuck is they running from Rotterman all over the place? It's five of them, it's five of y'all. But I totally understand why they're running from Rotterman. Nigga, you're not supposed to be over here doing what you're doing.

20:25 I feel like new york don't really realize even in the inception of hip-hop with the spades like gangs is normal that's how we just tribe up so i think ours got broadcasted to hollywood so it comes across a little incomplete you know i mean you just get kind of the general thing but it's not that different.

20:43 I'm gonna be honest as an outsider looking in niggas making shit look cool man.

20:49 Like, I don't... I don't... Listen, I will say this. I think... You make this shit look cool, man. I think the original intention of banging was family and village. Right, right. It didn't get dangerous until really, like, the crack era. Right.

21:03 And money.

21:04 Somebody get money and better guns.

21:05 Right, right.

21:06 More egos. That's Harlem, Brooklyn, same shit.

21:09 But that's also a question that I have. Between snowfall and the drop, it's like, damn, if we was to erase crack and cocaine... What?

21:21 This sounds like you're saying something crazy right now. Just think about it, man.

21:24 Like, what?

21:25 Like, the positive effects of... I won't say this, man. Is crack positive? I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. I had this crazy conversation with this teacher one time, and I was like, man, I think when it's all said and done, the crack era would be just as detrimental to our people as slavery was. Wow.

21:41 And we were having a real conversation about it, and he was like, well, why'd you think that? I said, because at this point, slavery, we can say we were forced. Right.

21:49 Right.

21:50 This one was, like, self-created by us. Wow. And what it did, what it did purposely by the CIA who dropped it in there was did exactly what it needed to do. It turned us against each other because the original Crip Villages was not, they wasn't created to go shoot people. It was created to protect their village and enjoy itself.

22:09 I saw another conversation the other day with a, with a brother that's an original Donald Archie sweetback. And he was talking on another podcast. I forgot which one it was. And he was saying he saw, you know, you heard stories when Raymond got out of jail where they was like, this shit is not quite what was intended.

22:26 That wasn't intended.

22:26 But again, if you introduce... Okay, all right.

22:30 Because what you're saying is heavy, right? Sure.

22:32 And especially when you talk about snowfall and all this.

22:39 Now.

22:40 When you say that, are you saying was he released because they wanted him to cause more terror? No, he was released because he was working with them.

22:50 No, he did his time in jail and came home.

22:53 It came back to a different version of what he started.

22:56 Oh, it was community.

23:00 What was it?

23:00 No, no, not the acronym. That acronym is kind of idea, but... Something that they use to come together. Right, yeah. Don't let the OGs act like.

23:10 They was on bullshit, too.

23:11 They was beating niggas up in jackets and shit. They was, you know, it was a bunch of poor people's sports, right? And competitive, physical force. I like that, poor people's sports. Yeah, because, you know, it's not like, you know, hip-hop. It's like all this stuff is stuff that we do to compete and to be recognized in our communities as something.

23:27 Right.

23:28 But as you introduce money, opportunities at better guns, and real things to fight over, like money, like territory. Territory probably wasn't nowhere near as crazy as it was when crack became a thing.

23:41 And I'm sure it changed in New York the same.

23:43 People going to die over these borders, like this country and everything else.

23:48 The world is doing the same thing.

23:50 You start being like, I can monetize within these borders, and that's going to create all the conflict.

23:55 You know what Snowfall did to... For years in New York, it was a.

24:01 Story that a Dominican dude from Washington Heights made up crap.

24:06 I felt bad. That's fucked up. Look, look, look. Yo, yo, I ain't gonna lie. I knew this story was fake. Come on, man. But it sound good. I mean, it might have been real from that side. It might have been. He might have brung it. I mean, who knows? I've heard that story a lot.

24:19 Yeah.

24:20 You know what I'm saying, man? In a weird way, they taught us to celebrate it, though.

24:25 What do you mean?

24:25 They taught us to celebrate the crack dealer. They taught us to celebrate taking over territory. Yes. That's what this show, the whole drop is about. It's like the music and how they will start allowing people certain songs to get bigger than the other ones. Wow. It was a real formula that you're going to see a lot of the same things. Like, they run adjacent in a lot of ways on how this was used in a way where we're going to flood some people with a gang of money, but we're going to infect y'all with some shit that's going to be.

24:52 Is hip-hop hip-hop at this level without crack money to push it in? That's my question.

24:58 That's my question.

24:58 It's not.

24:59 What would hip-hop look like without cocaine and crack, period?

25:02 Not just the money.

25:03 I'm saying the money to me. Like, what do you do.

25:06 Like, if you notice, I always talk about gangbanging change and hip-hop change at the same time as crack became a viable option to actual get money. Like, we had more money to invest in whatever else we were trying to do in our thing.

25:20 So, like any other... Spellman said.

25:22 Michael Spellman said something very specific. He was saying, like, the crack era, like, or a show like Snowfall is the nuclear bomb that hits all these ghettos around America.

25:34 Right.

25:35 And the drop is like, now here are the news reports. This is what hip-hop became for us at that time. Our news reports of what was happening after the fallout. You start to see the fallout. You start to see participants. You start to see things that that nuclear bomb affected. And here is the announcement. Here is the news reports from different artists painting a picture. So I thought that was dope.

25:56 Man, the drop describes... California to me.

26:05 Like, like, like, like, you know what I mean? Like, I, cause it was, it was an underground world. Like, I remember, I remember like, this is real talk, uh, get which record labels, well, at least two record labels.

26:17 We would just land. And they would demand security. Like, they just didn't understand it.

26:23 And now that I think of it, like, it's hard to understand politics if you're not, if you're not, you know what I mean?

26:29 If you're not into that shit.

26:31 And I remember, so let me ask you, let me ask you a straight up question, which I asked a couple of Los Angeles people. Do you think Los Angeles is the most dangerous place for a rapper?

26:44 Not at all. Not at all. I think, I think The three or four things that happened in the last 40 years, they've just been very loud. Right. But I've heard about things happening in a lot of people's cities that just don't get black.

27:01 Just don't get publicized.

27:02 But we're in Hollywood, so it looks crazier when it happens with palm trees and nice houses.

27:07 Is there a ghetto?

27:08 It's more entertaining.

27:09 Is there a ghetto you can wear a quarter million dollar chain in and be okay because you're just a rapper?

27:13 All right, yeah. So, no, I think— Can you go to any ghetto?

27:16 Can you go to Queens, Bronx, that and that?

27:17 Could you just be at the ghetto just chilling, quarter million dollar chain, don't nobody know you? You report people out, people trying to figure out how they're going to pay their rent.

27:24 You just did.

27:25 So I think Los Angeles definitely gets a bad rap for even stuff that happened like, you know, what happened with Tupac. Somehow that becomes a Los Angeles problem. And it really was something that happened in Vegas. Some with Biggie. That's like way more political. That really is not an L.A.

27:39 Situation.

27:40 The other situations are around robberies, people trying to come up and things going bad. But I don't think there's a ghetto you can go to.

27:48 You know what I mean?

27:48 Around this country, and you look like an opportunity versus giving one.

27:54 Motherfucker's going to probably take it.

27:55 And I would actually say at least almost half of those situations were done by people from out of town against another out of towner. It just happened on camera, like in front of the Beverly Center. Right. Or, well, twice in front of the Beverly Center. Sure, all right. These were two people from another place that's doing that right.

28:14 Some shit just happened the other day at the fucking, I call it the Buster Convention, the Complex Con.

28:19 Yeah.

28:19 It's like two dudes got into it and the dude got stabbed in the neck.

28:26 But these people aren't from L.A. They're not from here.

28:28 Compass Comp was in L.A.? Yeah.

28:30 I guess they feel like the airs make you just hurt a nigga.

28:34 I think people get out there and just get loose because, you know, it's infectious. And even if you go to Compton, it don't look like the worst place on earth. No, it don't. You know what I'm saying? It's actually nice homes there. Nothing in L.A. looks that bad. That's what I'm saying.

28:46 I went to A.

28:47 Trey with Corrupt. He did one time, he did look.

28:52 Over, and I was like, wait a minute. Hell yeah. He's still a shell shot. You know what I'm saying?

28:58 I was like, wait a minute, this is kind of like, I was saying it to myself, I didn't say it out loud, but I was like, oh, this kind of looks nice. And then he went like this. And I was like, don't say that shit. And then we kind of like, we kind of like did like a little one.

29:10 And we, we walked in and the drop and the drop is kind of telling you why you're going to roll us. I was like, Oh shit, I'm in the movies. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I get it. That's how I feel when I go to New York. I'll be at a rental car. I'm playing cream and shit.

29:27 I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I want to.

29:29 Feel this like, please, please hit me out.

29:31 It's not that I wanted to feel like the gangbanger life, but I did want to feel like.

29:37 You want the art to make sense.

29:39 Because you a street nigga though.

29:40 You want the art.

29:42 To make sense.

29:42 No, no, no. We leaving on something though. This is a very new version of this guy. He was doing that in his house too though.

29:51 Like a lot of people.

29:51 No, you got to understand though. Check me out. A lot of people. They're not as ghetto until they get to L.A. Right, right. You really was in your streets acting like you. So you see the beauty in it as opposed to people wanting to go film in it. It's very, very different.

30:07 I did not get Illmatic until last year. No, 2023 I went to New York, and I played Illmatic on the train riding to Harlem.

30:17 Okay. I was like, I finally get it. Goddamn, make some noise.

30:19 Because if you're driving in the car, it's different.

30:23 Right.

30:24 Like, you know, it's like, Y'all Records is different. Illmatic is very much a different experience. And I heard it a million times because everybody was like, man, it's Illmatic. I'm like, he rhyming, but I don't.

30:34 And New York, you feel it. I'm on that train. I was like, oh, this shit makes sense. Yeah.

30:39 I see why this is the biggest thing.

30:41 This is why when we lose regional sounding music, we lose that. We just had this conversation, man. I'm like, I hate that term regional. I think it should go back to you sounding like where you're from. Because that's when we all went global.

30:54 And they shit didn't sound like RZA shit. RZA shit didn't sound like Premiere. But again, we kind of Christopher Columbus day at all.

31:02 You know what I mean? We discovered something that makes it regional.

31:04 But everybody sounded the same.

31:07 Everybody sounded like they self.

31:09 Let me bounce around a little bit because the character, right, that I want to say he's like a Nipsey Hussle character, right? Which one?

31:17 The artist. I keep forgetting. Artillery. Artillery, right?

31:21 Can I see Nip and him? Yeah, it's a military. I mean, I'm not mad at that.

31:27 I mean, in the.

31:27 Voice tones a little bit.

31:29 Well, he's a little buddy. Buddy is from the Nipsey Tune.

31:32 Oh, he's a real rapper.

31:33 Yeah, yeah. Oh, buddy is from the Nipsey Tune. Oh, my God.

31:39 I was doing a Nipsey's album.

31:40 That's okay.

31:41 Okay, then.

31:42 Okay, I didn't know Okay, and He's a blood in real life?

31:47 No, he grew up in the crib He grew up in the crib Like a cop Yeah Okay.

31:50 Alright, alright So, alright He's a man around here He's a man around here He's a man.

31:55 Around here He's a man around here This is some.

31:57 Funny shit Some funny shit, right? When me and Capone got on, Queensbridge, I'm from left rack, right?

32:04 Yeah.

32:04 But Queensbridge is so much of a powerful hood. They got Nas, they got Marv Dean, Screwball.

32:09 Like, 50 Shed, Roxanne Chanté.

32:12 So when they would print articles, this is on our early on, they would be like, the Queensbridge duo.

32:17 I was like, oh, my God. But she knew that was a problem.

32:21 Yeah, but when I go back to my.

32:23 Hood, I was just like... But Ice Cube wasn't from Compton, too. Okay, no, no, no. I'm from Lefrak.

32:33 So what I'm saying is.

32:35 But I'm saying he had to adapt to a bigger city because that's what was popping in right.

32:38 So as a crip playing the blood, do you receive slack for that?

32:43 I think that was the smartest thing Spellman did in this show.

32:47 Wow. Because.

32:48 It's to make it up.

32:50 Because our take on each other is going to be much better... than anything you ever saw. Like, here the J is in there, and here the J is a crip. The YS is there. They notoriously know Paru's around the way. So for them to play crips, watching them do their rendition, problem who grew up in West Side Paru playing a crip, you.

33:11 See a theatrical.

33:13 Yeah, right? You see a theatrical... And Jerry Curls was lit! Crazy, right? I can smell the condition of him here. I was like, what?

33:24 So, no, so, like, I think you get the artillery buddy playing the blood. Like, a dude that grew up in Nutty Block playing the blood. I think you get a better. Experience watching it because watching us emulate each other is fucking funny.

33:39 That's... Yeah, that's all quiet. That's the quiet joke.

33:43 It's great, though, because.

33:45 No, because you're actually watching... People are doing it respectfully. Like, me playing a crip was a big deal to me for all my crip partners. I don't want to make y'all look crazy. Right.

33:55 We're in the group chat.

33:56 It's like, nah, I want to make sure y'all represent it to the highest because it could be deemed a disrespect to... For one of them not to. Especially for a crip that don't know you. No, it ain't even that. It's just when you represent somebody else's village on this broader thing, you don't want to disrespect. I respect that.

34:10 You know what I'm saying? And everybody did agree to that. Because it's like, in their mind, shit, I should be doing it. I'm the ultimate crip. And I can respect why they would say that. Yeah, I can respect that, too. So I'd rather, like, you know what? Let me dial it in and make sure it's authentic to what I've seen my homies do and try to represent it the best that I could. Like, come on. That's the way we do it. Whose genius idea was that? Spellman. Spellman.

34:31 That's one of the slickest things he did. And I think it's, I ended up playing the Crip, but I think that's one of the slickest things he did. And I think it worked out because watching Hitta and YS, watching Buddy, watching them all play each other, like, was great.

34:48 Watching Problem be a crip, like, right?

34:49 Problem is not a gang member, but he grew up in Westside, so culturally, he understands that a lot closer. But watching his rendition of a crip, especially on set, I didn't even.

34:59 Have to talk to him. You know, like, if I'm consulting.

35:02 Actors, like, I'm helping Peyton, I'm helping, you know, different people, if I'm helping Isaiah, you know, whoever it is, it's fine. I didn't even have to talk to Problem because it was so fucking great and funny to me.

35:12 I know that person.

35:13 Right.

35:13 I know that person. That's my homeboy Tic Tac. That's my homeboy boo.

35:17 I know that person. Right.

35:18 Right.

35:19 So I guess that's how I judge it too. Do I know that person? And they all did a good job of me knowing that person.

35:25 That's what's dope about the thing too is, um, Exactly what you just said. There's certain characters that's generic, like, you know what I mean? But there's certain characters, like Wanda, I know her.

35:38 Yeah.

35:39 Fact.

35:39 I know her. I know Wanda. Know her.

35:46 Yeah.

35:46 In different versions.

35:47 Yeah.

35:48 Every one. Holy moly. I know the clean version.

35:51 The fact that we don't see that, especially how we grew up, there's been no story about the clean version of us.

35:58 Because we do make it through. The crackhead version is very dope, though.

36:04 You know that.

36:06 That's already been over-advertised.

36:07 But the clean person trying to change their life, that's somebody very specific to us that we know.

36:12 Right.

36:12 And I feel like it's dope to watch her evolution as an actress.

36:15 I like the fact that on Snowfall, right?

36:18 Boom.

36:18 Like she's kind of set up a deal, even as a crackhead. She kind of set up a deal, made it happen, but only kind of. And then you see her come in on a drop and then she's bossed up.

36:28 See, here's the deal. Here's the deal with me.

36:31 Remember, I started with the drop.

36:32 Yeah.

36:33 So when that first scene comes and he goes, what's her name?

36:35 Wanda?

36:36 And he goes, where? I go, wait a minute. I'm like, wait a minute.

36:39 Wanda? Yeah, what did Wanda do, man? Go check it out. Then I go back and I watch Snowball. God damn it. Wanda been wilding for Christ's time.

36:48 God damn it.

36:49 But.

36:50 that's again let's get into that for a depth because.

36:54 Gail's arc is really incredible when you really think about it biggest arc in television history the biggest bean dog bean shout out to the clay bean is that incredible when we watched her play a.

37:02 Crackhead now we watching her about to become a music executive Yeah.

37:06 She was a crackhead to Mona Scott.

37:08 And you buy it all.

37:09 Yeah. She killed that. She's killing it. Yeah. Yeah. She sold the crackhead. She's selling the chase.

37:15 She's a bad.

37:16 She's tough.

37:17 She's tough.

37:18 No, no, no.

37:19 That was ill.

37:20 And then now, also, fuck y'all if y'all ain't catching up. But Leon, see, now, I didn't watch. I didn't get a chance to watch season six of Snowfall, right?

37:32 Because it's six seasons, right?

37:33 So, did they really go to Africa on?

37:35 Yeah.

37:36 They did? On the show?

37:38 Yeah.

37:38 Okay, all right.

37:39 Let's not talk about God. I didn't see that point. They went and shot a whole two days out there and really was out there. Had a good time. In real Africa?

37:47 Yeah.

37:47 Okay, all right.

37:48 And that's how Wanda got clean? She was already got it before.

37:52 Okay. So, you want me to tell you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck it. Let's do it. She ended up taking a bullet for Leon. So she had to sit in the hospital. Okay, I remember that. And that's how she got, it dried her out. Okay, yeah. And then she went on the journey of going to new spots and seeing it and like, hold on. She ended up getting a job on this thing.

38:08 Franklin's mom gave her a job.

38:09 I thought she had the, she was making phone calls.

38:13 Yeah, that was at Franklin's. I want to say Franklin's, whatever facility he had. Okay. The real estate spot. So you kind of watch her climb out and then he stay with her. And they got married. I know that story.

38:24 We know that story.

38:25 Me and you for sure.

38:27 That story where somebody stuck with their girl through their whole, you know, everybody don't run away from their girl when they go through something. I think that's something about Black Love that was dope about Snowfall and The Drop as well is that you don't see that. That's one of my older homies. I know that story. So watching some of this stuff is real personal to me too.

38:47 You know what else is dope to me? I'm bouncing around a little bit.

38:51 Like I said, I used to love the gang coaches to look at it. And I used to watch a whole bunch of documentaries of all the OGs. And the people at the record store, I know those are old.

39:01 Well, that's Jim Bob. That's the guy that got us there. And that's Skip, who's another consultant. A super brilliant dude. But those are old ex-gang members, right? I remember seeing them on documentaries. You see how I'm peeping I'm like, wait a minute. Are they putting him over there? That's like equivalent to putting like Rich Porter. Rich Porter was alive.

39:22 And people like Prince that just came home.

39:24 Yeah. And having them act. I was sitting there peeping. I was i'll see what y'all was.

39:28 Doing all day to the wire that's what they did oh you know they grabbed snoop off the.

39:34 Streets listen listen listen.

39:39 We got the wire we got power we got raising king not the power uh not the fit.

39:45 L.A., West Coast, Los Angeles, California, they got theirs now.

39:50 Listen, I cannot.

39:53 Listen, Snowfall is such a big story, but it's like for people who... If you know the story, you kind of know the story, or the CIA, and people who are especially with the Black Panthers and all that.

40:07 But my thing is.

40:09 My thing is That shit directed Straight towards me When it's talking about music When it's talking about People transitioning from You know being a street dude And saying man I'ma go be music And like I even love that scene With Leon And he Show him how to do it The right way No no When he met with In the.

40:25 Diner In the diner And he's like.

40:28 You either want money Or want more You can't have them both And I was just like I was just like Oh shit Because It's that moment When you're an artist Right And you're playing both sides.

40:42 Yeah.

40:42 And it's always one person who.

40:44 Tells you, bro. Can't do both.

40:47 You cannot do both. And especially if you're good in both.

40:51 Right. Like, it's even better if you're good in both. I'd be super good in one. If you suck at drug dealing, it's easy to quit.

40:58 You know what I'm saying?

40:59 Like, you suck.

41:00 You know what i mean but uh but if you if you like if you like good it's like it's hard to turn down this job you feel like you're the derrick g to this shit you know what i mean and then and then so it's always that that that line it's always that yo what do you do and when leon hit her with that by the way homegirl was scary as shit.

41:18 Yeah at least man.

41:21 I know that person in the neighborhood. That person that just raised up, got all.

41:26 His power, but just really just living their life and ain't even about that for them.

41:31 They don't even know nothing else.

41:33 Yeah, this show is so personal to me because I know every... That's why I'm most impressed of being able to contribute and then watch Spellman and Jimmy and the whole writers team.

41:43 Emile.

41:44 Mike, everybody.

41:45 So for all of them, Sam, put it together and then.

41:48 Being able to guide it just right where I'm like, okay, I know that person.

41:52 Okay, so let me ask you, remember when the executive went to meet Dara?

41:55 Yep.

41:56 And they had the contract, they had everything. Why did they jump him?

42:01 I couldn't understand.

42:02 Because he was playing with the homegirl crazy.

42:04 What was he doing? Because it went over my head.

42:06 He was popping it.

42:07 Yeah, you're talking, you're not talking to her like she's not sitting there with all.

42:10 Her family members.

42:11 Like you don't see what this is happening. Like y'all see him as gang members with red rags on red rags, right? That's a fact. That's her cousin, that's her uncle, that's her.

42:18 See, some of these people she been knowing as little kids and everybody. And you getting out her file because you got some money. And so when the other guys came out of the car, they were all together. I thought when the other guys came out of the car, that was his guys.

42:31 No, no, no.

42:32 He had like two guys, but they met in the neighborhood.

42:36 Okay.

42:37 And you got a contract and you kind of disrespected somebody that we all got respect for.

42:41 Okay.

42:42 And you thought money was going to be the reason. Prime, that time, money, you was going to get treated. It didn't matter what you had. You really had to be respectful to how you treat people.

42:50 You know, when you first started touring hip-hop, you used to roll 20 deep.

42:53 Of course, of course, of course, of course. It's no different. They're going to have a meeting.

42:56 They're all coming to watch the homie sign and shit.

42:58 See, you know what's crazy? This is how fucked up I don't know L.A. slang is. I didn't see him disrespecting her.

43:04 Oh, he was talking.

43:05 He was talking. Yeah, he was talking crazy. Really? He was talking.

43:07 You caught it?

43:09 Yeah.

43:09 He said $ 30, 000, you going to go back to shoot people across the street?

43:13 Yeah, he was talking crazy. Oh, you getting beat up today.

43:15 I mean, he talking crazy the whole time, though, in every scene. Wait, I think that was disrespect.

43:20 Brandon is incredible.

43:22 Brandon, you know.

43:22 Yeah, that's disrespect.

43:23 I knew that was a compliment.

43:24 $ 30, 000, you going back to nine?

43:26 You playing me cheap. Oh.

43:28 Like, first off, it's like I tell you $ 20, 000.

43:30 You could have just gained the money, but you got something smart to say.

43:33 Yeah.

43:33 Oh.

43:34 So then I'll tell you, $ 30, 000 just really trying to give you some consequence to what you saying to me, and you triple down on the bullshit. $ 30, 000, you about to shoot niggas across the street? You getting fucked up, because you finna get.

43:45 Beat up today. Like, what is this? Because again, we know you coming. to take one of our biggest resources. Like, they know it. Like, they understand why you're here. They know you don't love them. They know that this is strictly a money grab. So it's a lot deeper than them at the car wash. It's like, they really coming to celebrate. Right. That's the crazy part. They coming in like, homie on. We just got aggressive looks, but it's really like, damn, blood.

44:12 Homie on. They're watching history. I want to see it. I want to get close to it.

44:16 He could have been a player, but that's that money making him drunk.

44:19 Thank you.

44:19 You talk crazy to people.

44:20 But people watch that and think, oh, so they set him up to rob him?

44:24 Yes.

44:24 Yes. No!

44:25 But you know what was ill about that scene? What's my man name from the Bay?

44:29 Simba. Simba.

44:31 Simba, dog.

44:32 But listen to me, when I heard him say, listen, man, you should sign me. You see that? That dirty back? You know that, right?

44:39 You know that person.

44:42 I know who he is!

44:44 He's waiting for his homie, and he's waiting for his homie to celebrate.

44:49 He's dirty, man. But he's so burnt. He's so burnt, even when he get there, like, shit, you took too long.

44:58 He made the first episode when he walked up and he seen a nigga James in the house. He's like, man, it's the nigga that gave me the pass. When his homie start tripping, the nigga disappear.

45:07 How you ain't get out your homie? He a cold nigga. That went over my head, too.

45:12 Very personal interactions. Okay, so hold on.

45:15 I caught that part, though.

45:17 I caught the part. It's the homie that gave me the pass.

45:20 But how you didn't, where was you at when this nigga Keith was tripping on me?

45:23 So basically, he had to tell his homies, a crip held me down, right? Because he was blood. A crip held me down, and this is the one.

45:32 Yeah.

45:32 But they disregarded him, too.

45:36 But when your homies start to trip, you're supposed to come over there and.

45:40 Be like, hey, man, I know this nigga. He all right here. Solid nigga.

45:43 Nigga wasn't nowhere to be found.

45:44 Right, right.

45:45 Hey, Tim tore a dirty door, man.

45:47 I know that nigga.

45:49 I know that nigga, man. I know that nigga real life. I know him, too. Man, there's a lot of talented people on this show. A lot of passion. And even just marketing. From us that came from hip-hop, we was just talking about this last trip. It was like. This is what it's supposed to feel like when you talk about and represent hip-hop.

46:10 Yeah, I ain't going to lie to you.

46:11 Everybody's together. The people in the back, the people in the front, the people that's selling it, the people that's buying it. What's my man?

46:17 Yeah, everybody.

46:18 Sugar-free. Sugar-free. You see Rascals Sons? Huh? See Rascals Sons? The two dudes rapping?

46:25 Yeah.

46:26 I didn't know that.

46:28 That was a gift.

46:28 Rascals Boys.

46:29 That was supposed to happen on stream? That's hip-hop royalty, yeah.

46:32 Oh, shit. See, I got a lot of assing going on. Listen to me. I actually love that.

46:44 Like, you know how, like, you know, oh, man, why y'all hogging it up or whatever, whatever.

46:49 No, no, no, no. Y'all deserve y'all moment. This is y'all moment. Like, fuck that.

46:53 I'm going to keep it a bing.

46:54 I don't want to watch somebody from L.A.

46:57 Play a paid and full character.

46:59 Exactly. I don't want to see that. You got to be an actor or something.

47:02 You can't be an actor.

47:03 No, I want to see them do it.

47:04 That's what makes Cameron's.

47:06 Shit so good.

47:07 Let me switch it up for you for a little while, right? You know I hung out with Franklin three times?

47:13 And that English accent.

47:15 But nigga, when I finally locked in on Snowfall, I was like, what the fuck? Why does it sound like this?

47:22 What was this nigga?

47:23 This ain't that nigga.

47:24 Yeah, what?

47:25 He in shop? Yeah, bro. What's going on, bro? That's how dope he is.

47:30 And let me just tell you something.

47:32 Again.

47:33 I remember what John Singleton told me, so I was practicing my R's.

47:37 You know what I'm saying? Working on it.

47:39 You know, that's how the West... Hold up.

47:40 I can do this shit.

47:42 You know what I'm saying?

47:43 If this English man can do it.

47:44 I can do it.

47:44 No, no, no, no. He's an actor. Yeah, yeah.

47:47 He's a distinguished actor.

47:49 He's a thespian. Yes, yes. And it's crazy.

47:52 It's crazy.

47:53 Because.

47:54 He can actually do both. Like, he actually is good in the English accent, too. Like, yeah.

47:59 He's about to play Miles Davis. Oh, wow. Him and my brother, Terrace Martin, he's playing Charlie Parker. They over there shooting in Paris right now. God damn it.

48:07 Let's make some noise.

48:09 Girl, hold up. Will Franklin ever show up in the drop? Possibly. Who knows? That would be a crazy return. You know what's funny?

48:16 I feel the same way about Isaiah.

48:17 Or Leon. Okay, Leon.

48:19 Because when you meet Isaiah, he's just this real calm person.

48:22 And for him to play the person that I know that's from around the corner from where I'm from.

48:25 Isaiah is Leon?

48:27 Isaiah is Leon. Okay, that's his real name. Isaiah John.

48:29 So for him to play a wise nigga, like even his character from where he came.

48:33 What did he say he's from in real life? He's from Atlanta.

48:36 Atlanta?

48:37 Yeah.

48:37 Nah. Everybody gonna see him tomorrow, man. Nah, he the truth. And them dudes come hang out.

48:46 They both was telling me how they, him and Peyton, talking about how they hung out in the 40s. Shout out to Peyton, who played J-Loco. They really hung out with Crips. Like, you could tell they a lot more comfortable. And, like, I think Isaiah, as an actor, is underrated in this whole thing because I get lost in his character. I really feel like he's from where I'm from. His character's from PJ Watts. It's right around the corner.

49:10 Like, even when he apologized to the girl.

49:13 Yeah.

49:14 Like, I believed him.

49:15 Yeah.

49:16 He's like, the first thing I want to say is I apologize.

49:18 I was like, oh, shit.

49:19 Like, because it's like, you would think that he's a killer. She tried to kill him multiple times afterwards. So you would think that, like, all he want is vengeance, but he still had a heart.

49:28 Yeah. And he was like, yo, I want to tell you.

49:30 Even in strife with his lady through all her trials and tribulations, figure out how to marry her and all that, still want to be with her in the drop, and she just tripping.

49:36 Right.

49:37 So it's like, I think as an actor, I don't think he gets enough credit in this fold, but I believe him probably more than I believe everybody else.

49:45 Yeah, he's serious. He is serious. He's very serious. I'm serious. I'm Leon. Yeah, I think this for him... will be the, this is his time for him to like.

49:55 Yeah, because what made them bring him back and her?

49:58 I mean, I mean, I don't have, I don't know why, but I know. It makes a lot of sense. I know, I know that this was, I know this was the plan before they ended it.

50:06 They was the only ones that still had their mind.

50:08 Right.

50:08 Right.

50:09 Remember motherfucking Jerome knocked off, Louie on the run.

50:15 Yeah, okay.

50:16 Right?

50:17 Franklin is... I don't even know if he on crack. I think he an old-school wino like we remember him.

50:21 I remember real old-school winos before, like, crack was just a thing.

50:25 Remember winos laid out in front of the store?

50:28 Somebody asked me that.

50:29 They was like, Glasses, are you going to try to write something for Franklin? I'm like, the fuck I supposed to write for him? Like, he's a fucking fucked-up drunk. Maybe he could be laid out in front of a liquor store and you just step over him.

50:39 Yeah, that's fire.

50:40 Right?

50:40 Because he fucked up.

50:41 What are you going to do right now?

50:43 So.

50:44 they brought back to me, they brought back big Dion. That was important. So I think the goal is to, to do what makes sense. Um, I think, uh, Spellman really loves the fact that this is a part of Snowfall, but he understands his job is to create in the universe, but make something because you cannot do exactly what John do.

51:03 That's not going to work.

51:04 And I believe in my heart, if John seen this, this is a lot closer to Boys in the Hood while Snowfall is closer to Menace. So this is a family story about black people in love where you don't really pay attention because the jazz hands are hip hop and gangbanging. You know what I mean?

51:18 So, but if you really think about it, it's about a family that love each other. It's about a husband and wife who love each other. This is about this woman who grew up in a neighborhood and love all her homeboys. And she's trying to protect them. She's trying to protect artillery. She's like, hold up, this nigga is a, you know, this nigga is a mark. You know what I mean?

51:35 And, you know, in episode six, right, you just start noticing how things change around her and the people she love.

51:41 Yeah, right. Really is. That's the twist of that one. I think the drive has the potential to Like if, when, when it reacts and how it's publicly reacting, how so many people just like find themselves in it from everywhere, the drop. Hip-hop goes to New York. Hip-hop goes to the South. Hip-hop doesn't stop. It keeps, like, growing. I like it in L.A. No, no, no, no. But that's the thing. I never saw y'all perspective. That's important.

52:09 That's why it's very important. I like the Wu-Tangs, though.

52:12 Yeah, exactly. I want to see. Because the thing is, you do have... This is what happens. Like, somebody from L.A. goes to Atlanta and says, oh, man... It's a talent here. And then somebody from the East Coast says, oh man, I like what Death Row doing. Let me see something. And then you just, everybody just keep moving. It's about hip hop. I love that rap is being talked about in a really, really great way. Finally. It's been about murder.

52:39 It's been about this.

52:40 It's been about bots.

52:41 It's been about streams. It's been about the dumbest shit. It's like finally back about music. You can't be a hip hop head and not enjoy this. And that's to be the most important part. Yeah. I cannot be in.

52:52 I'll be honest.

52:54 First off, it's overall entertaining, no matter who it is. But if you're into hip-hop, and you're into especially West Coast hip-hop... I don't think you have.

53:03 To be into West Coast hip-hop.

53:05 You're right. If you're just into hip-hop, and you want to look inside of how this shit is made.

53:11 That's it.

53:11 Now you're seeing it through the West Coast perspective, the L.A.

53:13 Perspective.

53:14 Yes.

53:14 Which is what you want out of hip-hop. That's why I said we miss regional. You heard something from Chicago. Oh, man, now I'm understanding what's going on in their neighborhood.

53:22 Uh-huh.

53:22 You watch this, you understand it from this perspective. I miss that in hip-hop. But super successful hip-hop hit Miami? Right. What? We can do it, bro.

53:31 Man, this bitch is going crazy.

53:33 I'm pretty sure there's a backstory that ain't got shit to do with sex and fast music. Right, right. That I would want to see from LA. And it just has the potential to really, really go and just keep just telling the story and rewriting it. retelling the story of hip-hop. Because right now, this shit, from the business to the level.

53:55 Let's be honest.

53:56 America turning their back on us right now.

53:57 Oh, yeah. They trying to get out. They don't want hip-hop here no more. They like, y'all just squeeze the sponge, man.

54:02 They like, we.

54:03 Don't fuck with this country shit. You niggas ain't no more motherfuckers. Sports Center, y'all niggas. What are y'all doing? Come on, man.

54:09 So I seen you just came from New York. I seen y'all on Map Hopper and I seen y'all on The Breakfast Club. Shout out to them. Let me ask y'all. Did you ever think New York would be gangbanging?

54:19 Yes.

54:20 You did?

54:22 Once I realized hip-hop was going to be a thing in L.A., I knew New York would be gangbanging. Wow.

54:27 It's inevitable. Everybody just.

54:30 As much as we like to keep things so separate, we ain't that different. I don't go to New York and... When I'm in New York, I don't feel no safer.

54:37 Mm-hmm.

54:39 I don't feel like I'm not in L.A. You know what I mean? If I'm with the homies on 21st and Church, if I'm in Queens, I feel like I'm right in Watts. I feel like I'm right in Compton. It don't feel no different. I don't care if I'm in Chicago, the ghettos of Atlanta. I feel as safe as I'm going to feel, and they all feel just as dangerous.

54:59 If that's the thought. I remember at one point, right? You know, I would see, I would go to, you know, California. I would see Bloods hanging with Crips. But when, like, the gangbanging shit first kind of, like, hit New York, I felt like, first off, they were gangbanging after.

55:15 see the block or something like that. A block that's not there. Yeah, a block that's not there, right?

55:20 And then I imagine this is what happened and they started to have their own sets or get sanctioned by, right? But then at one point it seemed like they were going too far. Like, what I mean by that, like. With all due respect, you guys have years worth of.

55:37 War, right?

55:39 Sure.

55:39 Versus you taking on those same.

55:40 As opposed to where this guy's brand new, and this guy, they just here, and they just going to war now. But now, if they see blue, they just going to war.

55:50 They see red, they just going to war.

55:52 The first gang I remember being on the East Coast up there was 9Trey. And that was like- That was a New York product. Or it's a product of the East Coast, for sure.

56:01 That's OG Mac, right? Yeah.

56:03 That's what Jim and all them from. That's like a New York. That's a product from there.

56:07 Okay.

56:07 There ain't no non-trees at home.

56:09 Okay.

56:09 I mean, that don't exist.

56:11 But then I start watching all the different gangs get established, right?

56:15 Whether it's the Hungry May Trey out there.

56:18 Or the UGs, they own gangs.

56:21 The craziest thing is when I went to Jersey and I was hanging with all the Grape Streets and how many Grape Street sets they got out there. And I went to a 10-tray day. That's like the hood day for the Gray Streets. October 3rd. And I was just hanging. And there was so many niggas from Gray Street. And they walking up. And they like, what's up? Blah, blah, blah.

56:39 And it just sounded crazy. And I started to hear the niggas say on G.O. And I'm like, I remember asking, like, do you know what that is? He was like, yeah, you know, that's what the homie say back home. And I'm like, like, he didn't know that it was a dude named George.

56:52 And we called him G.O. They didn't know that.

56:55 Wow. And, um.

56:57 I just remember being like, damn, this is what happened with us in hip-hop.

57:00 Right.

57:00 Where you just have this thing, and some people don't like it.

57:04 I love it.

57:04 You know what I mean?

57:05 I love the fact that you really start to see that we ain't that different. Because they got it in Memphis. It's Memphis and all this. And all of this stuff that we got with each other transfers to different places.

57:15 All right.

57:15 So I'm with you, though.

57:17 It is very.

57:18 it's an odd thing that you feel like you're picking up a beef.

57:21 Right.

57:22 It's one thing to pick up how you organize, how you show love to your homies. This is another thing you beefing with somebody else that you don't know.

57:28 Right.

57:28 The one thing that falls on deaf ears is everybody that's worst enemies, we all know each other.

57:34 Wow.

57:35 We just that close.

57:36 Wow.

57:36 You know what I mean? It ain't strangers.

57:38 Like, you would have to know the person you, you know, have a problem with. It's more Ukraine and Russia than, you know what I mean, just some random faraway strangers. So, I've talked to different homies in New York about that. Like, you know, y'all know why these things exist.

57:52 Right.

57:53 You know, some of them is young, so they're trying to pick up the energy to get reputation. But just like anything else, they'll find their way. Just like, you know, hip hop on the West Coast found its way.

58:03 So let me ask you, I don't know if I got the right information, but is the longest gang beef in Los Angeles a crip on crip beef?

58:15 Individually?

58:16 Individually?

58:20 I don't, that's a, you know what, that's a really, because there's so many minute things that happen.

58:26 Right.

58:27 But the most publicized is probably 60s and HRAs.

58:31 That's most publicized.

58:31 Yeah, that's right, that's right.

58:32 And it's two Crips that are right across the street from each other.

58:35 Wait, 60s and HRAs?

58:36 Yeah, they both across Western.

58:37 Okay.

58:38 They right there.

58:39 So, I think that's the biggest, most publicized. I'm sure them niggas are fighting. I read Monster Cody book. Yeah, and they've been tripping for a long, long time.

58:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

58:49 So like, I think that's the most publicized. But, you know, you got to think how many gangs it was.

58:54 Like, my neighborhood started in the 71.

58:56 Gangs started in the 71, 72.

58:58 So I'm sure them niggas been fighting. People been fighting each other.

59:01 But the biggest one that was publicized was, because 60s is a, rolling 60s is.

59:07 A huge gang. And they're probably the two hugest crib sets in Los Angeles.

59:11 So for them to fight each other, and then the Hoovers and the East Coast, who are just probably as big as those two gangs fight each other, that's when you knew it was fucked up.

59:22 At one point, right, I believe it was the Rodney King.

59:25 Yeah.

59:27 Us from the East Coast. We've seen y'all riot. We've seen y'all go all out. But then we've also seen y'all have a truce.

59:33 Sure. And we, you know, we... Because, you.

59:37 Know, again, like, we're just now starting to understand, right? But back then, we were just like, all right, cool. If you're blood, you got to... you can't hang with a crib, you know, vice versa. And you guys have beef. And then this thing happened. And then we see that you guys tie your rags together.

59:52 Right.

59:52 And it was a community center. And it was like, it looked like a park to me. I'm not sure. And this was this beautiful moment. This was a beautiful moment. And then obviously that moment expired and y'all two opinions. What, what do you think led to that expiration?

1:00:12 Yeah.

1:00:13 We might fight amongst each other, but I promise you this, we'll burn this bitch down, you get us pissed. You know, you make a common enemy, everybody is going to unite. And at that time, LA showed that they wasn't fucking with niggas, so niggas did what they do. They came together and started saying, okay, well... Thank you for giving us a better target.

1:00:31 Right.

1:00:32 A bigger problem. That's like right now, you know, this country wants to tear itself apart. The president is not pleasing everybody. You know, he's on bullshit. And let an alien ship come down this month or let, excuse me, let some missiles come from you know, Iran and shit. Some missiles come and shit. Niggas going to be like, oh shit, you know, people come together.

1:00:52 The globe is tripping. Like 9-11, we all came together. That's the most I ever hung with white people in my life. Yeah, globe, the globe.

1:00:56 9-11.

1:00:57 We could all be fighting.

1:00:58 Every airport was like, what's up, nigga? I got you, I got you.

1:01:00 I got you too, nigga. Russia and Spain is tripping. Hamas and Israel is tripping. Iran and America is tripping. All these people tripping. Let some alien spaceships come down and shoot some fucking space missiles. Niggas going to be like, oh, we in trouble.

1:01:14 All right.

1:01:14 We all hear that now.

1:01:15 Yeah.

1:01:15 That's real.

1:01:15 So, you know, a little ass whooping make everybody see the truth.

1:01:19 Yeah, I mean, you hate that it takes something like that, you know, but I'm a firm believer in shit. If it can start like that, somebody can end it, too, and we can get it to the next part, I think. It just starts with people understanding, man, the whys, and niggas don't even know why they beefing no more. It done got so long-winded, and it's so commercialized now. It's like, bruh.

1:01:41 And people join just to beef now.

1:01:43 And then that's another thing.

1:01:44 Like a nigga get put on, he didn't grow up in the neighborhood. He didn't grow up in that area. He just get beat up and put on and then he beef with somebody.

1:01:51 But I blame it. I still, it's go back to hip hop and go back to anything, bro. It's not enough gatekeeping. Like in my time, niggas knew who to not recruit. Like, okay, this ain't for them. Right now, niggas just want a lot of numbers. Everybody just want the most people. So they'll take a crash out. They'll take this because they all respond on the board.

1:02:09 That is what's happening to hip-hop.

1:02:10 That's exactly what's happening. When you're looking at certain people, you're like, that is not right. You still be letting me in. And it's happened technically, too.

1:02:17 Like, everybody could be in a studio because the studio's right here. Everybody could record.

1:02:21 It's the same thing in gangbanging. Yeah, it's the same thing. There's no more OGs, whether it be in the streets or in hip-hop. I mean, they are, but they police them for it differently. Right, right. They're not OGing what we would want them to be. They're not trying to keep... Well, I'm not going to say they. I'm talking about where it gets messy. A lot of people have ulterior motives from the mission. You got some people that want to protect the neighborhood. You got some people that want to exploit the neighborhood. You got some people that want to sell the neighborhood. And nobody's doing it all in unison.

1:02:46 And I think when it was smaller, it probably was easier to contain. It's getting so big. Like you said.

1:02:51 Everybody wants to claim the fame.

1:02:53 Another state's claiming shit that's in Watts. It's like... Nigga never lived around the waist.

1:02:58 And you got old guys acting young, which is wilder than I just got.

1:03:02 And I get the social currency of it all. It is a very, I hate to say this, a very desirable thing. Especially when you can't figure out your life to go be a part of that type of organization. You immediately get power. You immediately get a reputation, a name. You pick up these guys' reputation. You go tell a stranger, yeah, I'm from this gang.

1:03:20 He's like, oof. You know, some girl like, oof. You know what I mean?

1:03:23 So.

1:03:25 Same thing I feel about hip-hop.

1:03:26 Everybody's trying to wrest off the laurels of things y'all generation and the generation did before.

1:03:32 Everybody's trying to, you know, take advantage.

1:03:33 They don't really have an interest in the actual community of it itself.

1:03:38 They like, it's about me and what could it do for me.

1:03:40 Or the history of it.

1:03:41 Yeah.

1:03:42 It's about me and what could this do for me.

1:03:43 Right.

1:03:44 And so it's funny because I kind of picked up the ball about protecting hip-hop to a degree. And it's tough because... motherfuckers feel like me fuck that it's just like nah fuck y'all y'all bullshit this motherfucker be rock and roll if i let y'all be just number white people in this motherfucker at one minute.

1:03:59 So so let me ask you right it's a famous clip right uh soldier boy sure um walking through the hood right and he goes like that was my homeboys too he goes um i believe he goes this is my hood Right?

1:04:16 We're talking about Salt-N-Wine from the hood. Salt-N-Wine from the hood. Okay, what does that exactly mean? So, honest answer or bullshit answer? Honest answer. I would like to be honest.

1:04:30 There's a really endearing personality from that community.

1:04:34 Okay.

1:04:34 He's one of my.

1:04:36 I'll say he's a pretty close friend.

1:04:39 My man, Wackstar. And Wack is like.

1:04:44 Term and Whack, right? It's a brother named Term from the mob and it's Whack, Whackstar from there. They're like these personalities that when you meet them, they're like the coolest dudes. They're so endearing and they fuck with you and they make you feel sore and they give you a level of camaraderie and.

1:05:00 And they down homies. Like, you got a problem.

1:05:02 You ain't even seen no nigga react the way these niggas going to react. They are the fucking show. And you see that and you want a part of it because the way they make it look, the on-command love that they have for each other. And they're really inviting. And that is a person like my homie Wax Starr.

1:05:19 He's like dope. And so if you meet him, you're going to be like, man, I like this nigga.

1:05:26 Right.

1:05:26 And, you know, that's the story of a Chris Brown. That's the story of a Soulja Boy. That's the story of different people that come around Wack and meet Wackstar. And he's somebody that got real cachet around the way. People love him to death. Some people hate him because, you know, he'll ride, he'll do his thing.

1:05:42 Fly.

1:05:43 Yeah, he a player. So that's how a soldier boy meets him and be like, man, I'm with this nigga. And he like, yeah, you with me. And then he takes you over there. You get that love or something you seen on television. Wackstar bring you around. Nigga, I'm like, oh, what's up, homie? Nigga, I show you love.

1:05:59 And you in the ghetto. Now you hanging with us. Right.

1:06:01 And then he could call me, Glasses, man, these niggas. The other day, he called me with Bow Wow on the phone.

1:06:06 Who, Soulja Boy? Yeah. Okay.

1:06:07 And I met Bow Wow at Cash Money, but he felt like we knew each other before I knew Wack. He didn't know me and Wack Starr knew each other just as gang members. We didn't know each other as no fucking entertainment niggas.

1:06:19 Right.

1:06:20 But just watching him and how him and Bow Wow's relationship is, I get it. The first time I met Chris Brown in person, I'm in Hawaii with DJ Head.

1:06:28 Okay.

1:06:31 I don't know if Head post on his Instagram or I post or something. This is back in the day. I don't even remember how niggas knew we was in Hawaii.

1:06:38 Big up DJ. What's his name? DJ Head.

1:06:40 What's his name?

1:06:41 DJ Block. DJ Block. DJ Block.

1:06:42 DJ Block. DJ Block.

1:06:43 DJ Block. DJ Block. DJ Block. DJ Block.

1:06:54 The homie hit me. He like, hey, y'all out here in Hawaii?

1:06:57 I said, yeah.

1:06:57 He said, what the fuck?

1:06:58 Yeah, we out here.

1:06:59 What's happening?

1:07:00 He like, hey, man, come meet me. I'm going to text you the address.

1:07:02 He's laughing.

1:07:04 He pumped up.

1:07:05 Giddy and shit. I'm like, all right, nigga, whatever. Ain't nothing else going on. So we drive over there. We pull up to a field. It's like an empty field in Hawaii, in Honolulu.

1:07:15 And we getting out, and we walking over, and I see Waxstar kind of standing, and I see this kind of taller light-skinned nigga just striking up on this building, doing a burner on this building, like getting busy. So I'm like, what the fuck is going on? So I get closer, and it's Chris Brown. So I'm like.

1:07:36 So, Wack walks over. He's like, yeah, he's from the set now.

1:07:40 I'm like, who's from what set?

1:07:43 He said, Chris. He said, look, check it out. So, he called him, hey, Breezy.

1:07:47 He come over there. He's like, oh, yeah, what's up with the glasses?

1:07:49 What's up, glasses?

1:07:50 Yeah, something on fruit, some pah-roo-da-da. Now, mind you, this is my first time meeting Chris, right? So this is the.

1:07:58 Dude that I know that say Joe.

1:08:00 Heavy language.

1:08:01 Right? So it's Joe.

1:08:03 This is all, that's the only version of Chris Brown I know. I never met because never. So he is popping it. He talking heavy.

1:08:13 And Whack is laughing because he sound like one of us.

1:08:18 He on fruit thighs, you know what I'm saying?

1:08:20 On bonk the G, da-da-da-da. and i'm like what the fuck is going.

1:08:24 On and it just i remember just leaving there like he was just talking to me he was telling me some shit and i'm like this shit is crazy this.

1:08:34 Nigga really this is arguably one of the biggest r & b singers in the world.

1:08:44 This nigga seen yo, bro. What the fuck? And he end up tripping, right?

1:08:48 Because he end up fighting a bunch of niggas and shit.

1:08:51 But I saw it first. Right.

1:08:53 I saw what happened. And that's the kind of personal whack story is where, like, you know what I mean? He fuck with it.

1:08:58 Turn is.

1:08:59 That's what happened with Lil Wayne. You know, my homie turned from the mob.

1:09:01 Like, they.

1:09:03 They're these really dope personalities from around the way, and they're real members and real homies, and people just fuck with them, and then they are inviting.

1:09:10 They're going to pull you in.

1:09:11 Real cool, though. Turn on my dog.

1:09:12 Because that was a rumor at one time that when they surrounded Lil Wayne's truck, that you was the guy who came and.

1:09:20 Yeah, so that was actually Birdman. Wayne wasn't... I don't know how Wayne get in the truck, but it was Wayne. I think it was Wayne's video.

1:09:25 Yes, yes, okay.

1:09:26 So it was Stunna and Slim, and I didn't know they was going to be there.

1:09:29 Okay.

1:09:30 Right?

1:09:30 They didn't... Somehow that... Communication was not.

1:09:34 Okay.

1:09:34 Trusted to me that they was going to be there.

1:09:36 You were already on cash money?

1:09:37 Yeah, I'm signed to cash money, right? Again, this is still part of my job, like, to a degree. It's like, y'all banging bloods and shit. This could be a problem, so I got to make sure y'all all right.

1:09:46 Right, right, right.

1:09:47 So I didn't know they was going to be there. Stunners just called me like, hey, G, blah, blah, man, some bullshit is happening. So he sent me an address.

1:09:53 So I called a homie. I'm like, hey, man, I'm finna go over here and deal with some bullshit.

1:09:57 He say, look, if it's some bullshit, bullshit, just tell me, just tell me, just send me the address and just leave. Now, I know that he tried, that's him saying, like, I'm finna go exercise the spot.

1:10:08 I'm finna go. Hey, that didn't sound good.

1:10:10 You know what I mean?

1:10:10 I know what this means, because this is my homie like that. As I'm driving, right, because I don't know the addresses in the Valley, I know gangs, right?

1:10:19 As I'm getting closer, I already knew who it was.

1:10:21 What?

1:10:22 As soon as I went over there, I was like, I didn't even have to go look for a stunt in them.

1:10:25 I already went to the niggas who it was.

1:10:26 All right.

1:10:27 So they're like, man, G, we didn't even know them niggas, man. You know what I mean?

1:10:30 Why the hell you wasn't there?

1:10:31 Right.

1:10:31 So I go tell them. I'm like, man, I go tell them. I'm like, man, I know who it was. Y'all want to go around here? We go squabble them.

1:10:37 Right.

1:10:37 Stunner was like, yeah, would you go squabble them? I'm like, yeah, I'll just go fight one of these niggas, then this will never happen.

1:10:41 They the homies. It's going to be cool.

1:10:42 Right. Stunner.

1:10:44 So Stunner had the fight?

1:10:45 No, I was going to fight if he didn't want to.

1:10:47 OK.

1:10:48 OK.

1:10:48 I'm like, because at that point, it's like.

1:10:50 It's just a respect thing.

1:10:51 And I know them. And they my homies. Yeah.

1:10:54 The niggas who it is is some niggas I fuck with.

1:10:56 Okay.

1:10:56 This SP, this is 40 Glock and them.

1:10:58 I know them. Okay.

1:10:59 You know what I mean?

1:11:00 Payback.

1:11:00 I'm like, yeah, we just go, you know, squabble them and shit for playing and shit. And it's no thing, you know. It's no big deal.

1:11:07 Stunner just didn't want to.

1:11:08 But yeah, it was tough. That was a tough time for me. Because I really was like... We should have just went and fought the homies.

1:11:13 It's cool. Okay, all right.

1:11:16 I just have to ask out of pure ignorance, like, all right, because that's not no New York shit, right, Jeremiah?

1:11:21 Okay.

1:11:22 So if you cool with them, they violated, but they didn't know that they was with you.

1:11:27 Sure.

1:11:29 That's warranted a fade, so now... It's not that, it's like.

1:11:33 It's like an offering? Can they jump you?

1:11:36 Sure, sure, it can be.

1:11:38 Like that, but it ain't like that. To get respect, you just got to show that you're willing to.

1:11:42 Right. Like, you just got to fight. Right. You know what I mean?

1:11:46 Like, they ain't not going to kill a nigga.

1:11:47 Right.

1:11:48 Like, me and Sparta not going to.

1:11:49 Have no problem if 40, I've been knowing 40 for years and we had to fight or if Stunner had to.

1:11:54 Fight him, we could have got a head up face. And all the R-crips, right? Yeah, right? So it's not.

1:11:57 No big thing.

1:11:58 Okay.

1:11:58 It was just a, it was a misunderstanding that the homies took advantage of.

1:12:02 Uh-huh.

1:12:02 You know what I mean?

1:12:03 And here it is, we can solve it like that, that way they had that.

1:12:05 Respect for you.

1:12:06 Right.

1:12:07 That's how it work.

1:12:08 Like, if you in LA and the motherfucker disrespecting you, you fight that motherfucker and you, you know what I mean?

1:12:12 You let him know this is what come with it.

1:12:13 Right. Yeah.

1:12:14 So, but, you know, sometimes I forget that Stunner's a billionaire and shit, and I got him in the middle.

1:12:18 Of the game. You know what I mean?

1:12:19 Like, he got his own responsibilities, but this is some shit I'm an expert in. So, you know, he was like, nah, man, I ain't signing you to have you doing shit like that.

1:12:27 That's real.

1:12:27 You know what I mean?

1:12:28 But in my mind, I'm like, well, if we fight these niggas, you know, we fight the homies, you know, head up, fade, you know, shit is cool. Like, that's how we grew up. Like, a fight ain't no big deal. We just need to solve a problem.

1:12:39 So, let me ask you, you agree with checking in? What you mean?

1:12:44 Like, when a person comes to L.A., are they supposed to... I mean, what is.

1:12:49 I don't understand what that even... Just checking in. When I come to people's towns, I call, like, I'm in here. What y'all got up? I don't think I'm calling to, like, hey, man, send niggas over here with guns or don't do that. No, that's not what I say. I think it's called that because of the... the size of the guys that they're talking about. It's like, boy, if Big U and this guy are homies, that's just his homie from L.A. I'm going to tap in with him. If this guy's from, if Deb, you go to Deb and you call her, that's just a homie. I don't think it's like, oh, for you to call me, you got to pay a fee. Nah, I don't agree with paying no nigga for no shit like that.

1:13:24 That don't make no sense.

1:13:25 Is that really true, though? Do y'all really feel like that's a real thing?

1:13:30 Maybe not checking in, but.

1:13:32 I mean, I think people do get extorted. I think people are getting charged.

1:13:36 Do they really get extorted, though?

1:13:37 In every city, I think it's happening.

1:13:39 Let's say if I go shoot a video in Left Rack.

1:13:42 I just pull up, right? Prime Left Rack. I don't know what Left Rack is like. It might be a little gentrified.

1:13:47 Who knows?

1:13:48 New York is.

1:13:48 Changing like in L.A. But Prime Left Rack. There's niggas hanging out. I just pull out a camera. I start shooting niggas behind me, shooting the neighborhood. They're going to be like, oh, man, it's cool. He's a rapper.

1:13:58 Hell no. So, right?

1:14:01 I think that's what's not being said. I think we're getting pushed into a situation where people are not telling the truth. They're trying to exploit the community and the neighborhoods, and they feel like, you know, I don't think that's extortion. If you go to the Grammys, ain't nobody like you got to pay to go to the Grammys. If you take your ass over there to, you know, the Beverly Hills Hotel, ain't nobody telling you you got to pay this.

1:14:21 You're responsible for what you're doing.

1:14:22 You know what I mean?

1:14:22 Like EFN, I used to come out to the EFN. I used to always tell them I was coming to Miami because he had the drugs.

1:14:27 There you go see.

1:14:29 Right so if I go shoot in the projects in Miami if.

1:14:33 I shit if I put if I put out a camera in Miami and I'm shooting a project and don't.

1:14:38 No nigga know you can't convince.

1:14:40 Me what the world keep trying to convince me as a hip hop artist from the west coast is that this is something unique happening I'm not buying it all you niggas is lying y'all all full of shit I can't go shoot in none of you niggas projects and y'all gonna just be like hey you want a sandwich.

1:15:00 No, but to a extent, and I don't want to put it on the East Coast or New York, but to a extent, it did feel like rappers coming to LA was a target.

1:15:11 No. It did feel like that. You know what I mean? That's just a feeling.

1:15:15 Right. No.

1:15:16 I mean, part of that is also if... Snoop and them come shoot a video and they shit get shot up and shit. I'm sure you probably like realize like, okay, this could be taken the wrong way.

1:15:25 Right.

1:15:26 But I think the concept of us checking in and shit is overstated.

1:15:30 Right.

1:15:30 I think you'll be fine. If you start to try to exploit people and communities.

1:15:35 Right.

1:15:35 You should be okay with paying them.

1:15:37 Right.

1:15:38 That's real.

1:15:38 You know what I mean?

1:15:39 You should be okay with presenting an opportunity. You should be okay with, hey, I'm finna come over there. Let me rap with y'all young homie.

1:15:45 Feel me? Da-da-da.

1:15:46 Here go some money for y'all program. To me, that's how I would do it.

1:15:49 I think people think for some reason that niggas don't know what niggas be doing when they calling. Hey, man, I'm about to go over to the mall, man. You want to roll? You're not doing that because you want them to roll. You want the protection of them walking around with you. So you ready for this guy to risk his life.

1:16:03 It's so.

1:16:05 Nigga, you would pay a security guard typically, right? Right. So what's the problem with making sure the homie got a fit when y'all go fucking shopping? That's what I don't like. That's what I don't like what's happening with BQ.

1:16:16 That's what I don't like what's happening with him. This is a lot of bullshit.

1:16:19 Okay.

1:16:19 Bro, people are paying this man to be safe because they want to be a part of the program and be in these places.

1:16:25 Mm-hmm.

1:16:26 And I feel like he did the right thing by getting his homies opportunities and jobs.

1:16:30 I'm watching it happen in real time.

1:16:32 So even when I hear that concept of checking in, I always laugh. I'm like, like, what makes you think you're going to pull out a camera in anybody's committee? If you go pull out a camera, start shooting a music video in Beverly Hills. they're probably going to get in trouble.

1:16:46 Yeah, you're right. They're going to be like, where's the permit? You pay somebody.

1:16:49 We call it extortion when the county say, hey, you got to pay for this permit. They don't own the streets.

1:16:53 We definitely have to pay to shoot all these scenes that y'all watch.

1:16:58 That shit ain't free. I would have tried to shoot that shit for free. I ain't paying these people.

1:17:02 Shit, but.

1:17:03 Disney is more and FX is more nice than me because I just shot that shit right there. But again, I'm saying I don't think there's no ghetto we could go to around this country and exploit it, exploit its hardships, the things that make it what it is. Hell, if I go to Soundview, man, I'm going to fuck all this hip hop shit I'm talking about.

1:17:20 I just put out a camera, start shooting.

1:17:22 So so so like obviously when you look at it, they're in the projects. Is that a negotiation as well? I'm sure that looked out, yeah.

1:17:31 Okay, yeah.

1:17:31 You should want to.

1:17:33 Yes. The fact that in hip-hop, for some reason, it's like there's a problem with giving people in these communities opportunities.

1:17:40 Right.

1:17:41 Like, I suppose just be able to come take advantage of that. Why would you not want to come over here and do something good for somebody else?

1:17:46 But the fucked up shit is that I've lived in Encino, and when they shoot a movie right here, they pay all of us to not do anything.

1:17:52 Ah.

1:17:52 So why don't they put that same shit going on in the hood? Right. Like, it... They have tried to rebrand my city so many fucking times. And it's always people that are not from there creating the narrative. Because we got the only place in the world where people move there to talk shit about it.

1:18:10 Oh, you L.A.

1:18:11 I ain't never heard that shit so much in my life. Like, I've heard this from people. Bro, you're here. I've never went to New York City. But I'm just saying, this is one of the type of places. But because it's a lot of people that come here. Yeah. So a lot of the narratives, like half of the narratives, I can say, okay, but another half, there's a lot of people in my town kind of re-sculpting the vision with us.

1:18:36 That's why this drop shit is so fly to me. That's why it's so fly to me. Because it's like, we can control the narrative for a first time. We can add the humility to these people that y'all look at as goons and monsters. Just like, yo, J-Loco, when you hear his backstory on why he's protecting his brother or why he gangbang, it's going to be like, oh.

1:18:55 That's Lamar, brother.

1:18:56 Yeah.

1:18:56 You're going to understand this is not about... Oh, I just want to fucking hurt everybody. I know Jay Loco, too.

1:19:03 Yeah, I know.

1:19:04 I know. Yeah, I know. He exists right there, please. Right now, too. In 2026, there's some Jay Loco running around.

1:19:11 Even when he was dressing up. Like, I knew exactly who he was.

1:19:15 Yeah, you know that person. Just trying to get it right. I need to.

1:19:17 Get my life right.

1:19:21 That was a thing that was kind of funny, though. They kept calling him Big Daddy.

1:19:26 Is that like a nickname type of thing? I should call my grandfather Pawpaw. Me too, me too. Well, what's the fucking difference? I just never heard that, though. I think with the Paw shit, everybody's just scared to talk. Okay. Like, oh, that pause shit.

1:19:43 Oh, you're saying the pause.

1:19:45 Well, we did Breakfast Club, and I said something. He said, I don't want to pause. I said, bro, I don't think about dicks when I'm talking, my nigga. That is true. That don't cross my mind. That don't cross my mind not one fucking time. So don't pause me. And the fact that you're thinking about dick when I'm talking scares me.

1:20:01 Shout out to DJ Shot. We took that. I took that from the homies. That's rad shit, bro.

1:20:06 Listen, he always say that when the homies from New York say pause. He be like, bro, get dick.

1:20:11 Off your mind. Get that shit off your mind, bro. I don't even want to talk to you about dick while I'm funding and delivering a message. I don't want to think about dick in the store. So Big Daddy, you hear that, I'm like, no, that's the big version of my daddy. Right, right, right. That's something I.

1:20:25 Heard people come to. Hold up, hold up.

1:20:28 Who is Wanda related to, man? That's the tricky part. I thought for a second she's their sister. Nah, she's alive. She's their cousin. I got cousins like that.

1:20:37 I don't even know if they my cousins.

1:20:39 She's their cousin. But they've been cousins for so long. We've been claiming cousins for so long. Fuck it. I got cousins like that. That's me and Terrence. Yeah, we brothers. But we decided that one day. It was our decision. We're tired of these forced relationships. I'd rather you than this nigga that's actually my cousin.

1:20:58 So far, during the season, what's your favorite character and what's your favorite character? And why?

1:21:05 That's so fucking tough. Performance-wise, I'm going to say Elyse, Dara. Yeah. She's, she's, she's. What's the character's name?

1:21:16 Dara.

1:21:17 Dara.

1:21:17 Oh, Dara.

1:21:18 Oh, okay, okay. Because I was not expecting.

1:21:19 The half a lesbian one.

1:21:21 That.

1:21:21 Yeah. Right.

1:21:22 The half a lesbian.

1:21:24 Yeah. She went viral, too. She's out. She's out. The scene is amazing. She had a strip club.

1:21:28 Even with the girls, she wanted Leon.

1:21:30 She still wanted Leon. I ain't gonna lie, she looked crazy when she was singing. And she's looking at Leon.

1:21:37 You know I didn't think that at first. I thought she was trying to bop him.

1:21:42 But you see how the duality of that? Her performance shocked me. In front of this girl, too.

1:21:47 In front of this girl.

1:21:48 I want to say, character-wise, I got to say Peyton, J-Loco.

1:21:54 Yeah, J-Loco.

1:21:55 Yeah, James, he's... Man, the way he's adding humanity to this crip. Like, he says all the time, typically, it'd be like, I'm crip number one, crip number two. Like, he's playing the piano. He's trying to be cool with pops, but if it get crazy, going outside to go get his brother. It's like, it's a lot of humanity and humility.

1:22:16 A lot of layers to him. A lot of layers.

1:22:17 The publicist from FX, shout out to Roz. Roz, she said, I just didn't know you was a real crip.

1:22:24 Who, J-Loco?

1:22:25 No, she was telling me that.

1:22:26 Oh!

1:22:26 Because I feel like people.

1:22:28 Feel like a crip.

1:22:29 Like, I saw somebody on Twitter today, like, I've been trying to change my algorithm, so I'll be solving these math problems on Twitter.

1:22:35 And niggas like me and Glasses think he's smart.

1:22:38 I do that.

1:22:38 That's what I said.

1:22:39 Not math problems, but... You're a certain thing, right?

1:22:42 No, I'll like.

1:22:44 Like, I'll.

1:22:45 Like something from like a marathon or something, and I'll change my algorithms because if I'm following negative shit, that's all I do is just, damn, other.

1:22:53 Niggas do that in the world. Control your algorithm. Control your algorithm. You can follow hashtags.

1:23:00 Wow, no, I didn't know that.

1:23:01 Yeah, I follow half-ass. Control your algorithm, brother. That's the movement.

1:23:05 Oh, I didn't know other people do that.

1:23:06 A prime example to J-Loco, to Peyton's character, that's how I feel, because Rhymes was like, gee, man, you're just a good dude. And I'm like, no, Crips are good dudes. They be knowledgeable. Or if I'm on Twitter, people respond like, man, you think you smart.

1:23:21 You think you smart. I'm like, bro, I had fucking calculus in high school. Of course I could do math.

1:23:26 They cannot believe you could be a Crip and do math or something.

1:23:29 I don't know anything. It's just weird.

1:23:31 So I appreciate that about Peyton's character, J-Loco, because it's like you see somebody being a real big brother. You see somebody that's a prodigy in his own rights playing the keyboard that might have fucked it up.

1:23:41 Yep. He killed that keyboard shit. Right? I started to cry a little bit. I was like, what the fuck am I listening to? Come on, man.

1:23:47 Come on.

1:23:50 One of the meanest scenes, speaking about J-Loco, is he's sitting there cuffed. But he's still got the enough.

1:24:01 Do not tell him where you from. When they ask you, tell them you don't gangbang.

1:24:07 Yo, he hit him with so much rules that you're told, like, if you ever get locked up in L.A., do not be tough. Tell him immediately. I do not gangbang, sir. I am from New York City. I'm from you.

1:24:24 Know what I mean like some over there but I've heard some dumb motherfuckers beeping with the police they got on all red okay I'm gonna put you in a motherfucking crib cell holy.

1:24:34 Shit they learn real fast real quick but whose idea was that to because For lack of a better term.

1:24:44 Most regular people don't know that. They don't know when they ask you, what's your shoe size? That's actually, that's actually arresting you. That's supposed to say that's your size.

1:24:55 See? Streets to streets everywhere. Streets to streets everywhere.

1:24:59 But a lot of people don't know that. So when his brother, that shit was so like, it was so like.

1:25:03 You said you would understand. He said, what happened to your shoes, bro? He said, man, the dude said you don't understand. He couldn't do nothing but laugh and shit because he knew. Like, I'm finna be here. I need these shoes. Your brother go get.

1:25:13 Some more shoes.

1:25:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:25:15 I forgot he was running around with no shoes. I was confused with Franklin. Franklin fucking with no shoes. Franklin got mopped up and yelling every day. But who's that? Because that was so genius to me. Like, he's sitting there. He's fucked up. He has his handcuffs. And he's warning his brother. He broke it down so fast. And he said it so accurate. Like, I even understood what not to do. Like, you know what I'm saying? He simplified it for him. What was that scene like?

1:25:43 Man, that's, again, Malcolm Spellman, the writing team, I'm pretty sure. Emile and Jimmy Chris had something to do with just maintaining the realism in that moment. Man, we got some dope fucking writers on the show, man. Shout out to everyone. Every Sal, man. Sal, Sephora, Mike, Emile, Spelman, Macedo, Dale.

1:26:05 It's a real boy in there, man. Malcolm know what he doing. I remember Tata, he fell in there one day. He came in there, he was sitting around in the writing room just like, Oh, yeah. So having somebody from New York and that's, you know what I'm saying, that's awesome. Mommy and Millie's from Harlem. Yeah, he's from Harlem, so you get another perspective. You know what they want to see.

1:26:25 You know what, so we get the beauty of knowing what the East Coast want to see and what we actually know and putting it, Malcolm putting it all in his thing to create the show. It's an amazing room.

1:26:35 Here's what I want y'all to know, that you're not falling short at all. Like, you know, sometimes, you know, like, for instance, I don't want to compare it to mine, but, you know, for our very first album, me and Capone, we only made that shit for us. We didn't make it for nowhere else, and that shit became worldwide. That's the thing about that shit is, like, watching it drop.

1:26:59 I was like, I know this is for... It's for y'all people, but it's for the world.

1:27:04 You understand what I'm saying?

1:27:05 Because it's so relatable because, like, again, the ghetto is the ghetto everywhere. We all got free cheese.

1:27:10 You know what I'm saying? It's the beauty original. We all got waters.

1:27:14 We all got J-Locos.

1:27:15 And we all got Leon's. See, you know that because you street. That's the difference. Right.

1:27:20 I've been saying this forever, like, it ain't different enough.

1:27:23 So even when we making something that's hella Los Angeles, it ain't finna be different than Queens.

1:27:28 Right, right.

1:27:29 It's going to be some language differences, some fashion differences, but the principles remain the same.

1:27:34 It's going to be relatable.

1:27:35 It's going to be the same principles because our principles is the same in hip-hop.

1:27:39 It works that same way.

1:27:40 I remember... and I know you know this story.

1:27:43 I said, I said this story, but this is, this is, it was after, uh, Big had passed, you know, it was really, really, really tense for us on coming from the East Coast and out there. Even when we felt like we were cool, even when we felt like we had people, you know what I mean? It was just like, it was a real, um, heavy moment. So I remember, uh, His name's Adam Favors. He works for Interscope Records.

1:28:07 I know Adam.

1:28:07 You know Adam Favors, right?

1:28:09 I know Adam. So I got nothing but killers with me, right? That's how I was told I had to go to California.

1:28:17 Bring your old niggas.

1:28:18 You know what I mean?

1:28:19 So I did. But I needed to get this off my chest. So I snuck out the restaurant. And I'm like, yo, Adam, bring me to the closest hood to here. And Adam's like, we don't want your friends.

1:28:34 Shout out to Adam.

1:28:35 That sounded like Adam. He's like, so we're deep and we're purposely going to. to leave and you want me to bring you to the closest?

1:28:43 I was like, I got to do this for myself. So he's like, you sure the closest?

1:28:49 I was like, yeah.

1:28:49 This motherfucker pulls up to the jungles, which I did not know was that close. And I did not know it was the jungle at that time.

1:28:58 And in my mind, They did this. This is way before training day. No, no, no.

1:29:03 I'm rushing the story. So I pull in. He's like, yo, this is one way in. This is before training day. I got it on camera, by the way. I got it on camera. And I just manned up.

1:29:15 And I got out the car.

1:29:16 And the first person I saw, I was like, hey, my man. And he was like, and I said, yo, you know who I am? Is it cool I film? He was like, yeah, it's cool. I said, you know who I am?

1:29:28 He said, yeah.

1:29:29 You little Nori.

1:29:32 I'm like, oh, shit.

1:29:33 I'm like, how the fuck I go to Nori in the West Coast and become little Nori?

1:29:38 He's like, chill out.

1:29:40 Or whatever, he bill out.

1:29:41 He said bill out or something like that. He was like, because I'm big Nori.

1:29:47 Wow. This nigga had big N-O-R-E tattooed on him. Adam Davis. What up, man? What up? So whatever he.

1:29:57 Did, like, they let him know because, mind you, we're in an all-blue excursion.

1:30:03 Sure. Like idiots. I have no idea.

1:30:07 So he's like, yo, I'm going to let the homies know you're coming around the corner.

1:30:11 I turn that.

1:30:12 Corner and girls start moving out the way. Because I'm realizing, oh, shit, we in the biggest fucking target. Like, whatever he told whoever. These people in between don't know. So we got to turn around. But I got through there.

1:30:28 Boom.

1:30:28 So long story short, I go through there. This is the bloodiest shit ever, ever. I've been telling people about this shit. Everybody's like, I'm like, yo, man, it's everywhere.

1:30:38 Like, everyone has red.

1:30:40 No one's wearing any other color.

1:30:43 And everyone was like, yo, I got it on film. Like, I actually have it on film. Adam Favors was with me. So the next hood I go to, Baldwin Hills.

1:30:52 What is it?

1:30:53 Not Baldwin Hills. What's the next?

1:30:57 Jungles is 30s.

1:30:58 No, this is. Baldwin Hills, I want to say. But there ain't no guys that's 60s.

1:31:05 But this, no, no. Whatever this was, this was a Crip neighborhood now.

1:31:10 Yeah.

1:31:10 And when I went in, I'll hit Adam.

1:31:14 And I went in and.

1:31:15 It was crazy because the Crips gave me Defro red shirts. And I was like.

1:31:23 And this was just one trip. Just that one day.

1:31:26 Just that one day. Yeah, yeah. They gave me.

1:31:29 You just had the street and you couldn't just live in that fear of like.

1:31:33 And you.

1:31:33 Know what was crazy? This is the time where everyone's getting robbed in Beverly Hills.

1:31:39 And I'm in the hood, safe as a motherfucker. Like, I'm cool as a motherfucker.

1:31:44 Like, everyone showed me love. So that was that time where... I say that to say.

1:31:49 That's how spooky it was, like, trying to learn.

1:31:52 Like, we just thought.

1:31:54 Sure.

1:31:55 Something happened to a dude that y'all all came up with.

1:31:58 Uh-huh.

1:31:59 He became a rap superstar.

1:32:00 Yes.

1:32:01 And somebody killed him. Nobody even knew what happened at that time.

1:32:05 Right.

1:32:05 Just like y'all didn't know, none of us knew.

1:32:07 Uh-huh.

1:32:08 Nobody really knew, so I could imagine what it was like to be from New York at that time coming to LA.

1:32:12 Right.

1:32:12 Because you're not quite sure what the fuck happened.

1:32:14 And damn, these niggas.

1:32:15 And then Pac had got killed, so it just sounds... kind of trivial.

1:32:19 Right.

1:32:19 I could imagine, but I could respect you definitely going to get that shit off because that's what it's all about.

1:32:23 Yep.

1:32:24 I was by myself.

1:32:24 Yeah.

1:32:25 And shit, I'll give you one more.

1:32:27 One more. And you know this.

1:32:30 So we, we made L.A., L.A. They got New York, New York. We, we never met each other. So I hit number one with Superdog. This is Thumb Solo. But it's still like, you know.

1:32:43 I'm still popping shit.

1:32:44 No, no, no.

1:32:44 We're not popping shit. We're not saying nothing. But it's still like, you know, we don't know how the shit is.

1:32:50 All right. I skipped one part.

1:32:53 No, no, no.

1:32:54 No, I did not skip one part. Okay. I think it's Power 90.

1:32:56 What is y'all shit? Power 106.

1:32:59 Power 106. So they're like, yo, you know, just the artists. No one else could go upstairs. So I'm like, all right, cool. Everybody like, all right, cool.

1:33:09 All right, cool.

1:33:11 I go upstairs, nigga, the whole death row there.

1:33:15 The whole death row there.

1:33:19 And I just got to sit there like, you got.

1:33:21 To throw the ice grill on.

1:33:23 You have to be mad.

1:33:24 You can't just be like, hey, what's up, y'all?

1:33:27 So I'm like.

1:33:28 And then Corrupt came up to me like, what's up? And then we gave, and then we was cool, everything. And then this is, this is, this is, I made a song about this. This is what I knew. West Coast niggas is just different niggas, right? I got the number one joint. We're in the, we're in the Gabbing convention.

1:33:49 You remember the Gabbing? Oh, Impact, Impact convention. We had the Impact convention. Mack 10, Dove C.

1:33:57 Oh, yeah.

1:33:58 Q wasn't there.

1:34:05 E-40.

1:34:06 Be legit.

1:34:06 The West Coast is in the house.

1:34:08 Deep.

1:34:09 Top to bottom.

1:34:10 I ain't going to say nothing.

1:34:11 A couple of my East Coast homies, I said, y'all look, we can't be the y'allers. We can't say a thing. We can't. We got to go downstairs.

1:34:22 That's what I said. I drink with E-40.

1:34:25 How does that line go? Well, anyway, so I'm just down there, and I'm like, it's me and my uncle. And 40 water walk up to me.

1:34:37 He go, hey, man, everybody want to say hi to you, man. Nobody know how to approach you, man.

1:34:45 I was like, well, good.

1:34:46 I want to say hi to him.

1:34:47 Because I'm sitting here.

1:34:48 I got it all, but I don't want it.

1:34:52 I don't want to hang out. I ain't coming in this game to be gone.

1:34:55 But I got to be like this. And then 40 Water did it. So then the whole night, 40 Water, he lined me up, by the way. He lined me up. So he's like, yo, give him a Moesha. So I'm like, fuck it. I'm drinking Moesha. I'm like, I don't know.

1:35:11 About five, six, seven drinks in. I said, man, 40, man. What the fuck is a Moesha? He said, straight brandy, pimp. You get it? Nigga, I don't drink no brandy.

1:35:25 Yo, that shit was hilarious, but that's the first time.

1:35:28 Y'all really was like, wow. These niggas was really YM. We don't really understand. They was the first YM. Y'all was. Yeah. to be in these situations. 19, 20, 23, 24-year-olds. We really thought it was like that.

1:35:42 We really thought that East Coast and the West Coast was just going to be war.

1:35:46 Remember, one thing is that you said that they would have been scared because of those two deaths. But in all the hip-hop conventions... The East Coast and West Coast was beating. Even though we all knew in hip hop, it wasn't East Coast, West Coast. It was some cruise.

1:36:00 But it did bleed over. Yeah. And out here we had a convention called How Can I Be Down? Of course. 94, 95, 96. Never heard about this. Yeah. And in the streets of South.

1:36:08 Beach, it was.

1:36:11 Death Row Cats, beefing with Fat Joe.

1:36:14 Yeah, we had.

1:36:15 Oh, wow. Yeah, I was DJing some parties back then. This is me getting in the game back then. And they were just, it was in the streets. And it was at Impact, like he said, Gavin. It was beef all the time.

1:36:24 What was y'all fighting over?

1:36:26 I wasn't fighting. I'm from Miami. I'm looking at everybody. What was y'all doing? Let me be honest with y'all. Territory.

1:36:33 They all want the number one spot. You said, how could I be down? But what was, let me tell you, at one point, I'm keeping it 100. Let me keep it 100.

1:36:41 I seen Cube throw records on a DJ for playing some East Coast records. When there was events that happened in Vegas, West Coast dudes used to take advantage of that, bro.

1:36:50 They used to take it because they knew we all.

1:36:54 Like the events, like the Gavins.

1:36:55 Oh, yeah, yeah.

1:36:56 When it used to happen in Vegas. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They used to, they used to, because, you know what I mean?

1:37:01 Like, they, that's like they Jersey.

1:37:03 Like, it's like.

1:37:03 Having a, like a event in Jersey. And boy, they used to, they used to let us know. They had them hammers on them. That's right.

1:37:11 That's right. But here it was equal. It was like equal amount of people. And it got tense out here.

1:37:15 Yeah, y'all was some young, wild folks.

1:37:17 Yeah. It was the first YNs, bro. They just had a term, yeah.

1:37:20 Y'all was wild, bro. Y'all be fighting over everything and shit.

1:37:24 As soon as I got to New York.

1:37:25 It was just on.

1:37:26 I was fucking with it.

1:37:26 I shot a video in Brooklyn. I'm hanging out and shit. Y'all niggas was really working out.

1:37:31 I had some amazing sex my first week in New York. Oh, my God.

1:37:35 Shout out to the Bronx.

1:37:36 Talk to the fucking Bronx.

1:37:39 How did you officially hook up with Cash Money? How did that even happen?

1:37:43 Mack 10. Okay, wow.

1:37:44 Mack 10.

1:37:45 I had an opportunity to do a record deal, and Mack 10 wanted to be a part of it. Like, he wanted to kind of usher me into different labels, and it was going to.

1:37:53 Be Tom Wally.

1:37:55 Tom Wally had took over Warner, or it was going to be Stunna Man, and it wasn't no competition.

1:37:58 Stunna.

1:37:59 I went with Stunna Man. It was no question.

1:38:02 Yeah.

1:38:03 Oh, you know, from Watts.

1:38:04 Good time.

1:38:04 I love Byron, man, so that was good money.

1:38:07 You said Watts?

1:38:07 You from Watts.

1:38:08 You love Cash Money.

1:38:09 Yeah, for sure.

1:38:10 Really?

1:38:11 Hell yeah.

1:38:12 That's probably his second home. No limit in Cash Money. He had a real run on that.

1:38:16 You can't tell Watts niggas about New Orleans, man. They all think they from New Orleans.

1:38:20 Okay. Love New Orleans. That's crazy. Moms and aunties are from New Orleans.

1:38:25 I didn't know that.

1:38:26 That was a big deal.

1:38:27 My grandparents, both of them from New Orleans. Right. Both sets. I didn't know it was that deep, though. Oh, it's serious. They did.

1:38:33 It's old videos of them going to the projects and being in Watts and hanging out and people loving to death. Like, Skip and Wacko was like legends in Watts. You know, Juvenile, the UTP clique, like, it go deep.

1:38:45 The Bonner Hunters want to put me on the cash money for sure.

1:38:48 Y'all remember the Nico Hotel?

1:38:51 Nah.

1:38:52 I'm old school.

1:38:53 My bad.

1:38:54 Niggas made me feel mad bad.

1:38:56 No, no. You've been around generations, dog. I was like, I'm about to give them my old story. I was like, nigga, just back out.

1:39:01 They don't even know where you at right now.

1:39:05 Let's give them their flowers.

1:39:06 Our show is about giving them their flowers. You got your flowers before, but we want to give you your flowers, and you're going to give you.

1:39:12 Your flowers again. You got alumni flowers. Yeah. Man, hand it off. Oh, what's up? Nice. Oh, these are nice. Man, I should not get into bars, man. Thank you so much. Why did I not think I was getting another one of these? You get alumni. Thank you right here. Come on, man.

1:39:33 Nah, listen to me.

1:39:34 No bullshit.

1:39:35 Y'all signing this one this time. That's yours, though.

1:39:38 But let me just tell y'all something, man. When I found out that it was not... you know, y'all just acting in this. Because that's kind of like sometimes like, you know, like a cliche type of thing. Like, you know, a rapper just acting it. When I found out that it got you guys behind the scenes and making sure everything was good, I was like, that's why this thing is so good, man. I really wanted y'all to know that. Like, I'm very, very impressed. Every time I rewind that shit, I see y'all names. I like, I rewind it. I be like, I was.

1:40:09 Telling that to my son today. I was like.

1:40:11 Those are my mans. That shit is important. It's important to be those names, you know what I'm saying? Behind, like, because we're always in front of the camera. A lot of people don't understand the skills that, you know, you possess behind the camera. So here's what I want to say. Because I see, I see, like, a combination bigger than, and this is big. When y'all work on something, That's a spin-off to the spin-off? Yeah.

1:40:44 Okay.

1:40:44 Yeah.

1:40:45 Right now. Okay.

1:40:48 Okay.

1:40:48 We about to have fun.

1:40:50 This is to me, this is.

1:40:55 The equivalent of putting out a major label album in my mind, like the old school major label. Yeah. You got a lot of creative control and the people that like, imagine having creative control. Everything's cool, but you hand it off. And they care more than you about how it works. That's the beauty. That's the difference. Like, you might hand it off to a major label. It's like, all right, this is the one that's queued up. No, it's, man, everybody in the business, from Disney to FX, they all are hip-hop fans. White, Spanish, East Coast, West Coast. They are sold.

1:41:30 It's the second time I keep hearing y'all say Disney, and I'm not realizing.

1:41:33 Yeah. FX, Hulu, Disney. This is why we here. Like, get that Disney money. Come on, man.

1:41:39 Come on.

1:41:39 Come on, man. Disney, come on. Disney care about Noriega. Wow.

1:41:43 Disney care about the Breakfast Club. Disney care about Mav Hoffa. Disney care about everything hip hop is doing.

1:41:51 Wow.

1:41:52 And we don't look at it like that.

1:41:53 Damn, we definitely don't. Listen, they had no problem saying, once we say, yeah, we want to do this. Oh, for sure. Let's go. Wow. Because honestly, this needs to happen. Okay. You know what I'm saying? This is urban rock and roll. Right. And it's had its time to now dominate the radio, dominate the streets. Now it needs to dominate the film. Right.

1:42:17 We're filming right now. Right, right.

1:42:19 You get what I'm saying?

1:42:20 It's time to take hip-hop to Broadway. It's time to take hip-hop to Broadway. It's time to take hip-hop to comic books. It's time to take hip-hop.

1:42:27 Hip-hop is in sports right now. It's time to take it to museums. Shout out to Cube. You know what I always....

1:42:36 And I'm saying you're manifesting it, but you're manifesting it on a bigger level. I always felt like, if necessary, California could sell to just California. Like, y'all didn't have.

1:42:49 You remember how, like, Master P, like, you know what I mean? It would be Richmond, California, and New Orleans. Yeah.

1:42:55 And, like, that's pretty much it.

1:42:57 Platinum. He's damn near platinum, or at least... Hood platinum, of course.

1:43:02 But eventually going platinum officially. But I always felt like that. And that's almost what the drop feels like. It feels like, again, it's y'all selling to y'all, but the world is coming to y'all. That's what's even better because. With the West Coast culture, I felt like y'all... You know what I'm saying? You had your people that went to Little Rock, Arkansas. You had your people that went to over here. But with this, what The Drop is doing, in my opinion, is bringing everyone back.

1:43:35 Yeah.

1:43:35 All of those people, all of those cousins that went to Little Rock, Arkansas and started his set, and the person that went to Harlem and did that, with The Drop, they're coming back home. Yeah, man. Does that feel like that?

1:43:46 I think, yeah, man. Anytime you tell a story about love and music... Mm-hmm. At the same time, that's universal globally. Of course, the surroundings is what it is. Like you said, it's gangbang and it's drug dealers. It's L.A., the lifestyle. And then you got the worst monster, which is major labels and things like that. But the story is still the love of this relationship, family, and everybody's love of music. Mm-hmm. Man, you ain't going to lose, bro. You just not going to lose. You're not going to lose, bro. It's universal.

1:44:18 And I'm happy to be a part of it. You know, this is a blessing for me and him. Like, we've been knowing each other almost 20 years. 21. Yeah, so for this to be our next thing we're doing together and to be able to do it from something that we're so deep-rooted in and we're not here if that doesn't happen, man, it's no better fucking job on Earth, in my opinion. I could see y'all earning an Emmy for this. Oh, yeah. Man, man, please. That would be super fun. Hell yeah. We said it first. Right here.

1:44:46 Come on, man. We said it first right here. I'll pick that. Quick time? Yes. Let's do the quick time.

1:44:53 Yeah.

1:44:54 Let's see. Has you sent that? Yeah. Uh-oh, okay. All right, let me explain. Quick time with slime. We're going to give you guys two choices. Thank you. This is our drinking game. We're going to give you two choices.

1:45:06 You pick one of the two we don't drink.

1:45:09 If you say both or neither, like the political answer, then we all drink. Got it. And then we just want stories really out of the things that we mentioned, the people we mentioned. That's what we really want. So first one. Let me just got this. Huh?

1:45:25 Oh, yeah.

1:45:25 Come on, Cece. You lie. I watch you. All right. Nipsey or Pac?

1:45:33 For me?

1:45:34 Both of y'all. Nipsey. Oh, wow.

1:45:38 You're my man.

1:45:39 Yeah, we actually knew Nipsey. Shout out to Parker.

1:45:43 That's my boy. That's his son. Came into business together. Same year, first tapes. Hung up posters together. Sold CDs together.

1:45:51 Oh, but what the music sound like? She ain't had to make music. Hey, listen. Let me tell you, man. First big placement together was Snoop's album. We got too many memories.

1:46:00 That's our class.

1:46:01 That's our gym. Damn, that's real. No shop. Nah, nah.

1:46:05 Probably about seven songs in there.

1:46:07 Wow. That's why it was important to have him on the intro. That intro gives me chills, man. That shit done to make you cry, bro. That feels right. And I'll tell you, that was the last second, three weeks before the show was about to come out. Yeah, that was a cold play, bro.

1:46:24 I've been telling you this because they sprung it on me. He said it to me, and I just remember I damn near wanted to cry, bro.

1:46:31 We're literally three, four weeks from the release. Simba comes to the crib. I got, like, so I have to watch. I'm watching the episodes, like, constantly writing those, sending them as we're editing and stuff. So he came over and it was on. So he heard just the beat playing. Because that was the original intro. He's like, man, that shit sound like shit. Nip would hop on. I was like, yeah, hell yeah. So he goes, he leaves. I'm smoking. I'm like...

1:46:57 Hold on. So I called Malcolm. I'm like, yo, man, if I get Nipsey on this theme song, would you have a problem with that?

1:47:05 He's like, man, hell no.

1:47:06 He think I'm not going to pull it off with him. I'm like, cool. I hit Black Sam. I'm like, yo, man, me and LaRance, we working on something. I think it would be super dope to have Nip as the theme song. He hits me back, absolutely. That's our favorite show. I'm like, oh. He's like, man, it's Steve-O. I'm like, all right. Hey, my man Solis. I get Steve-O's number. Get on the phone with Steve-O. He like, oh, you guys are doing the music for the show? Y'all are brothers. Hit G.

1:47:34 Have Lowrance hit G. I hit Lowrance. I'm like, yo, this might really be a thing that could happen. He hits G, who is his engineer. They say hit the vote with everything in it. We're on a group text. I watch Lowrance say, dedication. I'm like, what's this play? He's like, that one. That's the tempo. That's the name.

1:47:53 So I'm thinking, well, dedication is already out. We want something to release. The next morning, boom, hits the group chat. And now it's this third verse that was taken off of Dedication to put Kendrick Lamar. And so we like, oh, OK, hold on. So now I see this is serious. So I hit everybody with the business talk. OK, this is what I know is happening. This is what the money may look like. So I sent it to the president of Disney Music. Shout out to Jeremy Summers. Sent it to Kier, the music supervisor.

1:48:23 Shout out to Jeremy.

1:48:23 I'm like, they're like, wait a minute, is this fake? This was 24 hours later. I'm like, nah, I just got this from Black Sam, the team. It's like, wait, wait, wait. what can we do? I'm like, well, y'all about to get on this email and handle business. Put everybody on a group chat. That shit was done in seven days.

1:48:42 Wow.

1:48:44 You can't tell me... Shout out to the Humble. Black business is beautiful. You can't tell me that he didn't write that for that show. You can't tell me.

1:48:52 I might edit this part out. You can't tell me he didn't write that for that show.

1:48:59 That shit is real. We got everything done, business done, and they didn't grab it.

1:49:05 I thought that was a whole old record.

1:49:07 So, Lowrance... He's the music supervisor of the whole thing, executive music producer. So Lance, Siege, my boy Jason Taylor, and myself, we had already coordinated the instrumental. So my job is to vocal production anyway. So when I get the vocals now, I have to rearrange it, cut it, and do what we do. So, collectively, it was produced, but...

1:49:27 That was perfect. That was it. Was there anything before that, though, that was being considered? It was just the instrumental.

1:49:34 It was just that beat.

1:49:35 And the beat was fire.

1:49:36 Yeah, that beat is fire.

1:49:37 We were literally watching the show, and then we watching just the intro to the show. I like the cymbal. Cymbal, like, man, that shit sound like some shit. And then it was a rap song.

1:49:43 Cymbal sparked the idea that time.

1:49:44 Oh, wow.

1:49:45 You know what?

1:49:46 You're right.

1:49:46 Yeah.

1:49:46 Bay Area, man. Bay Area for the win.

1:49:49 What did it make you guys greedy and say, y'all would do it?

1:49:52 What you mean? Like, for y'all to jump on it.

1:49:55 Y'all to jump on it.

1:49:56 No. Before y'all thought of Nipsey, I'm saying.

1:49:57 I saw a team ball, man.

1:49:59 At the end of the day, man, we're all trying to make the best show. Uh-huh. And that wouldn't have been the best move.

1:50:09 And plus, we're all.

1:50:10 I didn't even just... But the thing is, we're... We're everywhere on this show. This is really about, like, the story... Of Nip is this show. The good and the bad of what can happen in West Coast hip-hop and that voice is there. The boy predicted everybody's character. It was so surreal to be able to make sure that this nigga voice get heard forever, forever, forever, forever. That TV show will never come off the air, and I thought it was very, very important for the marathon to continue.

1:50:41 It was bigger than anything else.

1:50:43 The instrumental as the intro was fire. I remember just hearing it like that. And I was telling him, I'm like, man, this shit fire. So to hear Nip on it, it was the only thing that could happen to make it better. But, you know, anything else, it was the only thing that could happen.

1:50:57 Yeah. That's what's up. All right. Eazy or Suge Knight? Eazy.

1:51:03 Shout out to Suge.

1:51:03 Shout out to Pops. But Eazy.

1:51:05 And don't start it. You don't get Suge Knight without Eazy. We ain't got to push him.

1:51:10 Eazy's on the move board at the Cribs. I want to embody what that was. That was perfect Compton etiquette. Full, smooth, handle business, ear for talent, not getting no mess, was ready to get very, very messy. And went to the White House. Yeah, you don't get shit at night without easy ease. You know what's crazy? You don't get a lot of things without easy ease.

1:51:30 And I say this a lot, and a lot of people, like, obviously they believe me because they have no choice, but I've never... I've never kind of met Suge, like, be bad.

1:51:43 I don't even know that person. I've never, I swear to God. That's what I said, but he's always been nice to me, bro.

1:51:51 I don't know if he was lining me up, but I don't know.

1:51:55 He's always been nice to me, bro.

1:51:56 I'm sure the people that got extensive histories probably saw shit, but I'm sure they play their own role in it. But dude has always been a gracious person. Like an elder, like a solid.

1:52:06 Dude that's going to give you the right game. Tell you some truths that you can't even see.

1:52:11 But right around the corner.

1:52:13 It's not a pick, it's just you don't get Shug Knight without EZ. It's kind of, you can't change that.

1:52:18 Like, I'm sure Shug looked at EZ. And Shug, man, you got to think, bro, what? 27, 28, getting $ 300 million, $ 200 million a year. And he's the first one to really put this Blood Crypt thing together successfully for at least a couple of years, at least five, six years. Bro, that's a lot to manage for anybody, let alone.

1:52:36 A 28-year-old mogul.

1:52:40 Drugs and oh yeah it had to be hard bro like again I'm not saying everybody's perfect but.

1:52:45 We talk about that a lot for sure a lot for sure they've been having people fucked.

1:52:50 On I ain't gonna lie to me when Suga was in power like deaf role artists I mean this is me outside of looking in We.

1:53:00 Were jealous of the death row artists.

1:53:02 How could you not? They get money stipends.

1:53:05 Everybody.

1:53:06 Every record is a crazy promotion. Yeah, I'm going to be honest.

1:53:11 They don't tell the story of how he was getting people out their deals.

1:53:14 Yeah.

1:53:14 All kinds of players sit around. If he fucked.

1:53:18 With you, you know what I mean? He was good money. I always say you get a bad rap, but... You don't get Snoop Dogg without, you know, all of these things. So, but the only reason for me, I think I can speak for P is you don't get Shug Knight without easy showing everybody the way.

1:53:34 All right.

1:53:34 Yep.

1:53:35 Next one. Digital Underground Pac or Death Row Pac? Death Row Pac. For me. Yeah.

1:53:44 But the Pac in between those is my favorite song.

1:53:48 A lot of people say you just like the EZ.

1:53:51 I get around Pac.

1:53:52 Which is Digital Underground. I get around Pac. It's crazy. But I don't care. I feel we got shorter. They said that was a Digital Underground song, actually.

1:54:01 It is.

1:54:01 That's what made the beat, but I think that's when you were starting to read. It was they saw it.

1:54:05 Oh their song yeah i didn't hear that who the hell told us somebody we had on here yeah but we had somebody recently okay and i got.

1:54:12 A great that was a digital underground song um i feel like we got rock because we didn't get the shock g produced tupac album so i'm gonna go with the death row.

1:54:19 I gotta go death row simply because michael velly okay i think he's gonna say that i like the holler if you hear me puck the brain has got a baby by me against the world puck was.

1:54:30 I wish we would've got... It's not fair that we never got... We got the Dre and Pac, but we never got the Shock G and Pac album.

1:54:37 I think that.

1:54:38 Would've probably happened. Speaking of Shock G.

1:54:41 Is that Shock G's son in there? In Snowfall?

1:54:47 I know, I met Shaq G, which role?

1:54:49 The Compton dude that went, that Scully's.

1:54:53 Oh, no, he talking about, he talking about Man Boy.

1:54:55 Man Boy, yeah.

1:54:56 No, no, no.

1:54:57 That's not, that's not.

1:54:58 Did he play Shaq G though?

1:55:02 In a pop movie or something?

1:55:04 Didn't he play?

1:55:04 Yeah, I didn't watch it.

1:55:06 I met Shaq G's son doing a concert in Oxnard.

1:55:09 That's not him. That's not him? Okay.

1:55:11 Man Boy.

1:55:11 Man Boy was a beast. Man Boy was a beast. Man Boy was a beast. I never thought they looked like each other. Yeah, I thought that was on the arm. They do look like each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was on the arm.

1:55:20 Only Def wrote Pac because we never got Shock G produced Pac out.

1:55:23 Listen, listen. Google, Google. What's his name? What's his name? Melvin. Melvin Green. Yeah, see?

1:55:28 Someone Google.

1:55:29 Come on, Has. This is your job.

1:55:31 Mel do look like.

1:55:32 Yeah.

1:55:33 See if he play Humpty Hump in something. Mel do look like Shock. Oh, am I just bugging out?

1:55:38 No?

1:55:39 It's me? I'll be hot.

1:55:40 That's something we need to make, though. But that's a good thing, though. Because now we know he could be shocked.

1:55:45 Yeah.

1:55:46 That might be something. We need to look at that in a job.

1:55:48 And I heard.

1:55:49 Bring Mel back to play.

1:55:50 Shock wasn't no sucker, though.

1:55:52 Shock wasn't no sucker.

1:55:53 Yeah, shock is a beast.

1:55:55 And there was a lot of layers to shock. Super dope, though. Menace to society or boys in the hood? Boys in the hood.

1:56:02 Yeah.

1:56:02 Me too. I picked that one. Shout out to the Hughes brothers. Ice Cube or Snoop?

1:56:11 Snoop.

1:56:17 You can say both. I'm going Snoop. I'll fuck with Cube. But Snoop, man, that style, man. You said you don't ask for it, you just drink, huh? Yeah. You got to take both. Yeah, if you take both. We all got to drink. Oh, we all do? Oh, fuck that.

1:56:37 Pick one.

1:56:38 You got to drink. No, you already drank. You ain't over here and start doing that political shit. You always drinking the other time. Nah, because it's not.

1:56:46 Snoop represents something different and Q represents something different.

1:56:48 I don't think that. So drink. I love it. I love this shit. We do this every morning. I've never seen him play the fence on it.

1:56:58 No, because that's a tough thing to make me choose between them two. I think Snoop is the greatest hip-hop artist in the world, but what is Snoop without Ice Cube?

1:57:06 I'm not asking without. I'm tired. That's a cop-out. I can't pick between them. How do you pick between West Side Connection and Dog Pound?

1:57:14 How do you pick between Dog Style and America's Most?

1:57:17 I'm not doing that. I'm not. We picking Snoop and Ice Cube. I cannot. You know what? I'm drinking.

1:57:24 I would say both.

1:57:25 I love this. I love this. I got to say, Snoop, man, Snoop is still to this day, like, in the words of Bam, I can get him on the phone. Right now. You know what I'm saying? I can talk to him. Cube is barely going to.

1:57:35 Answer my DM, but it's like.

1:57:37 That don't matter.

1:57:39 You know what I mean?

1:57:39 It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter.

1:57:43 I got to be honest because I know what Q means to Snoop too.

1:57:48 So it's like, it's tough. I have a relationship with Snoop. That is true. Snoop is, Snoop is, Like, we send each other memes and shit.

1:57:57 Like, this is my dog.

1:57:58 You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Snoop. That's how you know it's not personal because Snoop is definitely somebody that I can talk to for advice.

1:58:06 He going, you know what I mean? And Cube is somebody that.

1:58:10 you know, our relationship is small and minute, but it's like, if I'm asking for hip-hop, I can't.

1:58:15 I just can't. And he's globally known as the ultimate low, too.

1:58:18 That's facts.

1:58:19 Top tier.

1:58:20 This nigga's one of the top five most famous people on planet Earth. It's a lot.

1:58:24 It is.

1:58:26 Yeah, it's a lot on it with the dog. Snoop, for sure. And he a Chris.

1:58:29 Jesus Christ, Mickey Mouse.

1:58:31 Yeah, 2027, man.

1:58:31 Jesus Christ, Mickey Mouse and Snoop Dogg. I'm just not picking between them.

1:58:35 I'm just not. I can respect that.

1:58:37 Because I don't think Snoop would pick between them. I think Snoop would pick you.

1:58:40 Right, exactly.

1:58:41 Yeah, for sure. That's why I get to pick Snoop. All right. That's right. Wu-Tang or N.W.A.? N.W.A. But it's tough.

1:58:53 Wu-Tang.

1:58:54 It's tougher than you think. I literally was just listening to 36 Chambers yesterday.

1:58:58 Wu-Tang, bro.

1:58:59 It's nine niggas. Yeah.

1:59:00 Yeah.

1:59:02 Yeah.

1:59:02 It's nine niggas. It's like the most hip-hop thing in the world. That's the best way. Nine niggas.

1:59:08 Named after a Chinese person. Bro, it's nine niggas that came together to put on a burrow that don't even get a bottle up.

1:59:14 What are we doing?

1:59:17 Drink.

1:59:17 Fuck it, let's drink. Yeah, I'm going to N.W.A. You keep fucking up shit. I'm saying shit. They picked the opposite. It's both. Because it's Wu-Tang.

1:59:26 Wu-Tang the rule.

1:59:26 This wasn't like that at first.

1:59:28 You know what I like about you? He likes to have problems.

1:59:33 He likes to have problems.

1:59:34 He did the same thing to Quick. He did the same thing. You know why? You know why? Let me keep it simple. Like, I actually know these niggas for real. And these are the most, Quick, him, very opinionated. And when they on it, they don't let me get on the fence about it. So to get here, I said, Wu-Tang. Nah.

1:59:53 I pick Oogtay because it's nine niggas. Nine niggas make one group?

1:59:57 You know how hard it is to get nine niggas to do something? It's hard to get nine niggas to come in here. You can't get nine bad niggas together to do it. It's like a football team. That shit is the greatest shit in the world. I never heard anybody explain like that, but you're very true. Very true.

2:00:14 I'm a diehard NWA head.

2:00:16 Dre is my hero, bro.

2:00:17 They really both only had two albums, too, right? No, Wu-Tang got like six albums. Together, I'm talking about the full Wu-Tang albums. No, the whole group.

2:00:24 But I'm saying, let me tell you what's really fly about Wu-Tang, bro. This is the thing that the more I learn about Wu-Tang, because if you'd asked me this 15 years ago, it would have been NWA. You'd ask me this 20 years ago, it would have been NWA. The more I learn, bro. Nine niggas made one album. RZA broke five of that thing.

2:00:40 RZA produced five different albums. Platinum albums.

2:00:43 Mm-hmm.

2:00:44 This is like the most hip-hop, unselfish shit in the world. Raekwon is his moment.

2:00:49 Here he is, right?

2:00:49 You can remember this. This is our time.

2:00:51 Mm-hmm. it's his time to put out an album.

2:00:53 He's like, nah, I'm going to take my moment and I'm going to share it with Ghost and Cap.

2:00:57 Bro, that's the flyest shit in the world.

2:00:59 When it's Ghost's moment and he's putting out his solo album, I'm going to.

2:01:02 Share it with these.

2:01:03 Bro, that's what hip-hop is about.

2:01:05 I'm not even going to play with it.

2:01:09 One time. And to say they're still touring right now.

2:01:11 Right now.

2:01:12 Man, he's like, yeah. Them niggas is giving. Right now. I want to go back and forth.

2:01:17 I want to go back and forth.

2:01:18 No, no, it's cool.

2:01:18 He making great points. He make great points. That's because it's years and years of something that I get. I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. Yeah, you got to stay with the trend. No, no, I don't like the fucking brands.

2:01:28 Dr.

2:01:28 Dre. Sure, no. Hold on. Do we get Snoop, then Em, then 50, then Doc. That's one thing. Easy, easy.

2:01:36 No, I totally get it.

2:01:37 Hold on, hold on, hold on. Boom, like this thing.

2:01:41 But it's nine niggas.

2:01:43 Ice Cube, the one you picked. Ice Cube, the one you picked. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Ice Cube, the one you picked. Right. Big three, Friday. Sure. No way could I not say in WWE. I'm not mad at that. No, it's not. No, no, no, no, because we don't see Chris Tucker. We don't meet Mike Harris. We don't meet Ken Williams. We don't see these people if Q don't start Q-ing, Eazy don't start Eazy.

2:02:10 As a legacy player, I understand individually.

2:02:12 Yeah.

2:02:13 Nine niggas coming together to do one thing.

2:02:18 I seen that nigga rapping the other day.

2:02:20 I heard that nigga Ghost rapping on the Zoom acapella or the instrument.

2:02:23 I was like, these niggas is great.

2:02:25 We talking about rapping? Them niggas going crazy. Them niggas is great, bro. Them niggas had a cypher with Scarface, Ghost. Ghostface. I saw that. I saw that.

2:02:33 I saw that.

2:02:35 I saw that.

2:02:35 And I appreciate nine men coming together to.

2:02:39 Put on what's so fucking good.

2:02:41 I was like, I'll never get to feature now because I know niggas is going crazy on G-Ram.

2:02:46 I know niggas see it. They like, this nigga G-Ram was sick. Because you know how you see a nigga like a legend that ain't going, but you know they still nice?

2:02:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:02:55 I'm DMing niggas like I was on Eric Serger like that. I'm hitting E-Dub. I'm like, hey, cut, let's get a beat. And then I saw some shots.

2:03:00 I was like, fuck.

2:03:02 Now he hot again.

2:03:03 Right.

2:03:06 G-Rap got all kind of $ 5, 000, $ 10, 000 features now.

2:03:11 G-Rap's niggas in G-Rap DM right now.

2:03:14 You know how many eras G-Rap's stuck around? He's crazy.

2:03:20 You be seeing all that shit.

2:03:21 Come on, bro.

2:03:22 Like, come on.

2:03:24 And you could tell they was pumping him up, face it.

2:03:28 Face it, go to him. It's like, bro, that shit crazy. That's a mean record right there Them three right.

2:03:32 There You can make that a record So It's not because It's Ghost Fucking right It's nine niggas In RZA RZA did it all Like Them niggas That's one of the That's.

2:03:44 Probably the most Remarkable story in hip hop It's probably.

2:03:47 We're going to just keep cutting up that part. It's nine niggas.

2:03:53 It's nine. It's nine.

2:03:54 It's a podcast with nine niggas.

2:03:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:03:56 That shit is about to end.

2:03:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:03:59 He's quick. He's quick. Now, fuck that. Two of them late.

2:04:04 And all you get is a couple arguments here and there. Niggas might say they're rid of the bullshit, but somehow they always find their way. That shit is impressive, bro.

2:04:13 That's the spirit of hip-hop. Dre or Quick? Fuck. I got you now. I got you now.

2:04:23 Bo, I'm not doing that.

2:04:25 Yep. Let's go ahead and pick that right up.

2:04:27 I'm not doing that.

2:04:29 I wouldn't even dare play with that. Premier or Pete Rock? Troy.

2:04:38 Troy.

2:04:44 That's one of the best. Or Troy.

2:04:48 Pete.

2:04:49 I love Primo Pete, though.

2:04:52 Yeah.

2:04:52 Pete.

2:04:53 Troy.

2:04:53 I just couldn't imagine a world without Troy. I don't know if I want to live there. I don't know if I want to live in a world without they reminisce on you.

2:05:03 Yeah.

2:05:04 I know.

2:05:04 I get it.

2:05:05 There's a lot of premieres.

2:05:07 Yeah.

2:05:09 I'm going to boast this one. All right, let's do it. I'm about to.

2:05:13 Salute.

2:05:14 Yeah, let's do it. Mm-hmm. Fucking crying. Mm-hmm. All right. Crooked Eye or Corrupt? King Crooked. Corrupt. Corrupt. Crooked Eye, my brother. Fucking Crooked for sure, but nobody's fucking with God. It's Corrupt. It's not happening. Crooked is going to pick Corrupt. It's Corrupt, man.

2:05:32 He's the funnest.

2:05:33 And if we see you out there, Corrupt, man, get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Man, that's my OG.

2:05:41 I ever told you me and Corrupt had an argument, and I liked it. Like, because you had never been cussed out by a crip before. So, like, you know, this is my brother, so he's like, this is cool.

2:05:53 Sure, yeah, yeah.

2:05:54 But you don't understand how much they turn into a crip. So he's like, on cuss, on safety.

2:06:00 And I'm like, keep going. My man from Queens.

2:06:03 We got into an argument. We was disagreeing on something. Shout out to Lex. Shout out to Lex, man.

2:06:08 Okay. And we were talking, and it was a heated conversation.

2:06:12 It wasn't nothing disrespectful.

2:06:14 I got respect for this man. This man, like, in the film, he fuck with the music and all that. He a supportive brother. He was something I'm laying on 7th Street Crip. Nigga, that's how I go.

2:06:22 That nigga said, nigga, you banging on me?

2:06:24 Nigga, you got my address? Nigga, if you want, I'll go.

2:06:26 I'm like, no, bro.

2:06:28 Like....

2:06:29 I had to explain in English.

2:06:32 I was like, no, I'm doubling down my neighborhood as the bartender.

2:06:38 That's my authenticity of the conversation. I'm not insulting you or banging on you.

2:06:46 I'm telling you, even my word is bond.

2:06:50 Even on my hood.

2:06:51 Yeah.

2:06:55 I was hip to it, so I was like, yeah, come on. Because I had never heard it. He cussed me, bro.

2:07:00 The day I made Tupac Must Die, right? So it comes out, right?

2:07:04 The song.

2:07:05 In my mind, I'm like, this ain't even no disrespectful thing. I ain't say nothing disrespectful.

2:07:08 It's Tupac.

2:07:09 How the fuck can anybody disrespect Tupac? But I understood my job in hip hop is to kind of get this cultural experience.

2:07:15 So I'm writing a song.

2:07:16 It comes out. The video is dope. I'm so proud because I'm like, I know I'm finna have hip hop with this shit. Niggas gonna be fucked up. So I'm at Steel's house, Steel managing me, Big Steel of the, you met Steel?

2:07:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:07:27 So Big's Norm. So I'm at Steel's house, right? And he like, man, G, I don't know, man, this shit just been crazy. So we sitting in his house and my phone ringing and it's Gotti, right? So I'm like, what up, OG?

2:07:36 What's up, Corrupt?

2:07:37 He said, what the fuck is up with you, Corrupt? So he start going on his raffle about 10 minutes.

2:07:45 All these other niggas.

2:07:47 So I'm listening, right?

2:07:49 Because part of it is, and this is some problem I say, I start.

2:07:53 To smile when it's.

2:07:54 A little mischievous, right? Because I know I got him. Yeah, okay.

2:07:59 Like, this is like, imagine, like, all your heroes, right?

2:08:03 You've been listening to all their music, and they fuck you up, and then you fuck them up.

2:08:07 Right.

2:08:07 So I got them all fucked up, so he's just going off. And I was like, man, so he cussed me out for about 10 minutes. He's like, cuz, this bullshit.

2:08:14 Oh, you got the same shit.

2:08:15 Shit's so crip, and I'm just smiling, because it still is over there. Norm is like, fuck.

2:08:20 I said, man, you saw that and you used to disrespect.

2:08:23 He's like, what you mean, cuz? You ain't niggas. So I'm saying, fuck Tupac.

2:08:26 I was like, cuz, why would I.

2:08:27 Make a song saying fuck Tupac? So he started talking to me, and I explained the song. He was like, my bad, cuz.

2:08:35 I didn't even know what.

2:08:38 The song was about. So I know that.

2:08:41 Kareem cashed out. It was dope. I was right, too. It was a great day in my life.

2:08:46 I couldn't stop him.

2:08:47 I couldn't stop because it was so poetic.

2:08:51 And if you get to go on, it's like, no, cuz. No, cuz. Every OG that cussed me out, that was Dr. Dre. Dr.

2:08:58 Dre was like, man, you need to apologize.

2:09:00 I'm like, this nigga may fuck the police. How the fuck am I supposed to apologize?

2:09:05 But it was so great because it made them, I knew they had assimilated into much more successful spaces and my art made them uneasy because they had to contend with something.

2:09:15 And so I laugh when people talk shit about how.

2:09:16 These niggas don't love each other. Them niggas was all cussing me out over Pac. They was like, nah, nigga, you quit cussing me out. I'm like, nigga, why would y'all think I would diss Tupac? Y'all know me. But they just, that title and the chatter, they was fucked up.

2:09:29 It was dope though. It was a dope moment. Wow. It was dope seeing Norman in the diner scene. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. All right, Kendrick or Game? Dot. That's fucked up, Dot. Dot. That's fucked up.

2:09:45 And Game put me on, too.

2:09:46 That's fucked up. Big up Game. That's fucked up, man. Shout out to my dog.

2:09:50 Yeah, he put me on.

2:09:51 How was that? How was that? Put us on.

2:09:55 No, he gave my career start. I owe my career to him in so many words.

2:09:59 Okay.

2:10:00 Him facing G-Ryde.

2:10:01 Okay.

2:10:02 Buddy of mine from Village Town, Piru. I'm his family friend. Took me, introduced me to a rapper from Westside, Piru, named Fosent. Fosent, I rapped in their neighborhood with all their homies. He introduced me to the people that he working with. This is Game, Face, and G-Rod. So Game allowed me to be a part of Black Wall Street to bolster up my first mixtape.

2:10:21 Rapped on my first CD when he was on fire. So he put me on.

2:10:25 Okay. Gang homie, man. That's my dog. Kendrick is like my, this is like little brother, like, you know what I mean? Gang, I ain't got to die for gang. I'm going to die for Kendrick.

2:10:34 It's my, you know, it's like my, I watched this little nigga grow up since a little kid.

2:10:38 You know what I mean?

2:10:39 So.

2:10:40 Love that nigga with all my heart, man. You know what I mean? And that ain't personal.

2:10:43 I didn't realize when Kendrick took that stage, that moment, I believe we spoke about it.

2:10:47 I didn't realize.

2:10:49 I believe you and Quick broke it down, like how many gangs, how many people, like different sections was together on that one stage.

2:10:56 Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, not as drastic, but that's symbolic to how the truce was in 91. Yeah. Like for for the outside looking in, it was like, oh, we didn't know y'all could all stand together like that. It was that moment again. And it was a celebration. And again, I like to keep saying, man, a lot of people bring up Drake name and think we walking around stepping. I'm like, bro, nobody got no problem. It had nothing to do with him losing. It was more about our homie winning. And and the homie did his thing.

2:11:28 And then he decided to reenergize the city and put us all in the front. I think crip, blood, all that is always going to be what it is. But we all unite in the celebration. And who would be the idiot to want to fuck up another person's celebration that we're not invited to? You know what I'm saying? So I think it was beautiful. Played out perfect. And it played out where a lot of people got new friendships.

2:11:50 I mean, I had some situations that actually got smoothed out that day. It was Juneteenth, man.

2:11:56 It was a day to be alive.

2:11:57 It was Juneteenth?

2:11:58 Yeah.

2:11:59 It was a big thing. It was a good time. And if anybody had anything, it ended immediately when everybody was just hanging out early and just doing their thing. I don't know.

2:12:09 It feels weird like that. It feels like we're the only people that ride with each other. I don't know how the West just... Because I can't imagine somebody from New York battling a rapper from somewhere else and niggas being like, man, fuck the homie. Fuck a New York nigga. I just can't imagine it. But for some reason, everybody kind of holds that like, man, y'all niggas be West Coastin' again.

2:12:24 And I'm like, what nigga be from the West Coast?

2:12:26 And it's like you would think Canada is part of the United States. It's not.

2:12:32 It's not a problem. I'm just saying it seems.

2:12:36 You know, I don't know.

2:12:38 Maybe like there's a point where if somebody from Queens was battling somebody from, you know, I don't know, Omaha and shit, niggas be like, well, I'm with the Omaha nigga. I just can't imagine that world where they not riding. This is hip hop. Like, of course you just riding, you know? So I think we do take a lot of shit. Like I do think people look at us and be like, man, them niggas be West Coast and too much West Coast niggas.

2:13:00 I'll take it. I'll take it. Prodigy or Big L? Prodigy.

2:13:06 That's a piece to hell, bro.

2:13:11 He got work. Yeah, he call. And he was young, too.

2:13:15 And I really got to see it in New York.

2:13:17 That's the thing.

2:13:17 When you see it in New York, you hear it way over there. It's different because you're like, oh, this nigga dope. You see it in New York, they be like, oh, this nigga is right below Jay-Z or above Jay-Z on some nigga's list. You can't tell a New York nigga nothing about P.

2:13:28 All right. Hyrule or Liquid Crew? Liquid for me. I just did a song with T. Godfather.

2:13:39 I did a song with T. I did a song with J-Ro is on it. Jibbitz is on it.

2:13:46 Tash is on it. Shout out to Hyrule though. They just dropped a new album. That's a good one though.

2:13:56 Like all the OGs dropping albums right now. I love that shit. I love that shit.

2:14:00 Who told niggas they had to stop? Don't worry, man.

2:14:02 Big up to Joe, Busta.

2:14:05 Who else? Busta's album. Busta, that's crazy.

2:14:08 Yeah, that's going to win the Grammy.

2:14:10 Yeah, yeah. I hope so.

2:14:11 Remember I said that first year.

2:14:13 And when is the Grammy?

2:14:14 It's February, right?

2:14:15 Yeah.

2:14:15 Okay, yeah. That won't hit until next year. I think that came out.

2:14:19 No, I think it came out after September.

2:14:21 No, it made the time.

2:14:21 No, no, I think it made the time because he submitted it and that's on Dylan's birthday.

2:14:25 It's already there.

2:14:26 I believe the Grammy's... It was before September. I believe so, yeah. I believe he did it.

2:14:30 That album's going to win the Grammy. Is that Busta first Grammy?

2:14:33 I'm not sure. No, no, no.

2:14:34 I think Janet Jackson, he won the Grammy with. Not for an album, though. Oh, not for an album. But come on, Haz, I shouldn't even be guessing. Come on.

2:14:43 All right. Warren G or Daz? I gotta go buff. You go ahead and do this. Come on. Salute. Yeah, let's go.

2:14:55 Man.

2:14:56 They're my dogs, too.

2:15:01 Never won a Grammy?

2:15:03 First one this year, man, for Busta. I agree with that. He definitely deserves it. First one for Busta. I agree with that. I've been hearing great things about that Dilla album. Exhibit or Razzcast? Exhibit. That's fucked up. Exhibit. Only because Exhibit. Exhibit. Damn, that's fucked up. That's a fucked up question. I fuck with Raz. Exhibit my brother, though. Yeah. That's my man's man.

2:15:29 You know what I mean?

2:15:29 He's one of the greatest councilmen ever from the West. Keep you straight. Always try to put you in a positive direction. Raz is great.

2:15:37 Raz is one of the best alcoholics on this planet ever. He's the best. He's the best.

2:15:41 I've never not had a great time at Raskin's around and drinking.

2:15:46 I promise. I've never.

2:15:48 It's never been a dull moment. You ever drank with Xzibit? Yeah, I drink with a zippy butt. I ain't going to lie. I give Raz cash a little bit more.

2:16:05 He's even liquid too, right?

2:16:06 Yeah, yeah.

2:16:06 Because let me just tell you something. Because Raz, let me tell you how ill Raz is. There can be five different conversations going on. Raz is in all five.

2:16:15 Raz is true. He's in all five. He's turning around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he get going, he ain't going. And that nigga's a real MC. That's my.

2:16:26 And.

2:16:26 Xzibit is as well. Xzibit is fucked up quick.

2:16:29 I smoke more with Xzibit.

2:16:30 He's really good. I smoke more with Xzibit than... Xzibit got all the fucking.

2:16:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:16:33 I still got a grenade in my... Man, that big-ass fucking joint. Yeah, with that big-ass joint. It's in my toilet, just in case.

2:16:41 You know, like... You know, like, you have one of.

2:16:43 Those days, and it's like, all right, cool. It's right there, so I can just go... And I can smoke right out of my toilet.

2:16:48 Yeah, yeah.

2:16:49 It's a grenade, so he made a crystal grenade in the center where you pull a pin.

2:16:54 What is it, like a half-bran? I mean, I'm talking about a half-bran. It's way more. It's like a half-bran. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:17:00 How you gonna lie? I had three of them. It's only one left, but I got it right there.

2:17:05 I mean, it's... You already tossed a grenade a couple times? I remember I thought it was Fred when he created that shit. He was sitting there fucking high, and that motherfucker was sitting there just playing with something. He was like, hey... Exhibit is like.

2:17:17 Yeah.

2:17:17 Exhibit is like one of the... He wanted the best to guide you.

2:17:21 Like, all our... Like, Exhibit always been like a great guiding person.

2:17:25 He gonna always try to help you.

2:17:27 And he.

2:17:28 On the low... He was one of the first one of us to crack reality TV and we didn't even know it.

2:17:34 They didn't even give him credit.

2:17:35 We didn't even know it.

2:17:37 He was before the real world. He was before the dusty, you know.

2:17:42 A different kind of icon.

2:17:44 This motherfucker really got a dispensary in Beverly Hills.

2:17:48 That's what I'm talking about. Exactly.

2:17:50 Eggs don't play.

2:17:51 Bruh, he getting to it.

2:17:52 Nigga cat famous now.

2:17:54 Oh, yeah. It's cat famous. Eggs is just a good dude.

2:17:57 What does cat famous mean?

2:17:59 His cat is famous. His cat is famous.

2:18:00 Oh, his cat is famous.

2:18:01 Oh, shit.

2:18:02 His cat is cat named Thundercat. That's a nip name to us. But the cat just got famous. Xzibit's a great dude.

2:18:08 Yeah.

2:18:09 Raz is a good dude, too, but Xzibit is just like one of those dudes where... Shit just good happened. He a really good dude. Okay.

2:18:16 Both those guys great. Come on, man. Go for the brass cast. Yeah. MCA or Spice One?

2:18:21 Eight.

2:18:22 Gotta go, A. Gotta go. A don't get the credit. He was one of the ones to go platinum back to back.

2:18:34 You need some help, homie?

2:18:39 Just a voice that you can't mimic. Spice is like that too, though. Spice is like that too. I feel like Spice didn't go globally. No, Spice did. Spice got platinum albums. No way.

2:18:52 No, no, not like eight.

2:18:53 Not like We Come Strapped. Not like them Compton Drive-Bys. Nah, not like that. It's different. Nah, nah.

2:19:00 But I'm going eight. I'm going eight.

2:19:03 But Spice is one of those sneaky underground legends that's platinum, got big records.

2:19:07 No, for sure. He's platinum in California for sure. I mean, like, no, he's platinum.

2:19:10 Yeah, yeah, he was a job.

2:19:11 Yeah, he got his own cult followers. Yeah, it's like a techno. It's like it's its own thing. When I say MC8, MC8 still gets called AWACS. wherever he goes. It's a different situation.

2:19:22 Also, what helped push 8 over the limit to me is all the films that I remember that represent us, he has songs that are probably the most instrumental thing of the song.

2:19:33 Whether it's Boys in the Hood, Growing.

2:19:34 Up in the Hood, whether it's Men in Society, Straight Up Men, so that's another thing outside of just being AWACS in the field.

2:19:41 Those records are crazy, man.

2:19:43 He definitely had a curl.

2:19:44 What you saying?

2:19:46 He definitely had a curl. And he used to hang out on Chris Shaw. So, go out to MCA.

2:19:51 That's what you told me. What was his name?

2:19:52 Mr.

2:19:52 Big Daddy, what's his name?

2:19:55 Mr.

2:19:55 Kenzie. Oh, Mr.

2:19:56 Kenzie.

2:19:56 I had to rewind because I was like.

2:20:00 Because your accent is very cold. I was like, how about kill him off the show? I was like, wait a minute.

2:20:04 And it says show on the screen. And I had to rewind back. You had subtitles on? You had the subtitles on?

2:20:12 My subtitles stay on.

2:20:13 That's what I do, dog.

2:20:16 Shout out to Michael T because he was hella dope at helping me do that.

2:20:19 I remember I wanted to give him dab, right? So I was like, man, I'm going to kill him, Mr.

2:20:22 Kenzie.

2:20:22 He's like, we ain't do that shit back there. Because he a real L.A.

2:20:25 Nigga. Okay.

2:20:25 Shout out to Michael T.

2:20:26 Williams. Oh, so you tried to give him like dab. He was like, we ain't do that.

2:20:30 He said, nigga, we just.

2:20:32 But.

2:20:32 I was like, he saved me because pops called me.

2:20:34 He's like, yeah, that's what we used to do at that time.

2:20:38 So shout out to Michael T, man. He's a super player and he's a legend from around the way, too.

2:20:43 But that's even how... I knew, like, it was a legendary moment for you is because Wanda jumps out. Yeah.

2:20:52 And then you say something like, you ready for the car show? And I thought she was smoking.

2:20:56 Yeah.

2:20:57 But come to find out, that was like my floor, whatever, right? I was in by that time. It's funny because acting was so... I thought of it as a challenge, but... Like, they had Peyton and Michael T and all of them had coached me so well. Shout out to Macedo, who gave me good advice as well. But by the time I was already in, by the time I was already the person. I was already the vulture. I was already the OG.

2:21:17 I was gone. Like, whatever happened. You had to hurt everything.

2:21:20 I was gone, bro.

2:21:20 But you was like, your.

2:21:21 Jerry Carroll juice was like... Because it was real at that point.

2:21:23 I was like, that's... That's my man. That nigga hurt. He look like he hurt.

2:21:26 No, because I was really there. At that point, it was real. It wasn't even no more acting. And shout out to Peyton, right, who plays J-Loco. But he said, Glasses, if you acting, you already doing something.

2:21:37 Right. He said, you can't be acting. You got to just be. You got to be doing.

2:21:41 You got to just be.

2:21:42 Okay.

2:21:42 I don't know if we established this earlier. I think we did, but I haven't spoken. J-Loco is not.

2:21:49 James. James. James is J-Loco. Same person.

2:21:52 Street name.

2:21:53 He's a real street dude?

2:21:55 No, no. So Peyton is the character. Peyton is the actor.

2:21:59 Peyton Alex Smith.

2:22:00 Okay.

2:22:01 And that's Lamar's older brother.

2:22:02 Lamar's older brother, right. Okay.

2:22:03 So he plays James Kinsey. His street name in the show is J-Loco. His name in the show is James Kinsey.

2:22:10 Okay, okay. So he's been on All-American. He's been on BMF, right, dude? Okay.

2:22:16 And he's not that far away.

2:22:18 Okay. He not know... Oh, he definitely is of the culture. It's not far from him to play this role.

2:22:23 I seen him with y'all on the Breakfast Club, but I didn't... You kind of couldn't even tell. I couldn't... I didn't hear him talk.

2:22:28 Yeah.

2:22:29 You got to see the shit we did with Punch in the.

2:22:31 Okay.

2:22:31 You know what I mean? He was going on, so.

2:22:33 Peyton is like... He... Just a great dude, bro. I like him, nigga, man. Real Texas nigga, man. Real Dallas dude. Play Spades all day.

2:22:41 I ain't gonna lie.

2:22:41 He feel like a.

2:22:42 Big brother, though.

2:22:43 Oh, he's solid. He's a solid homie. He got it, dude. Yeah, good dude. Good. All right. Above the Law or Compton's Most Wanted?

2:22:49 Ooh.

2:22:50 Okay, I'm gonna drink.

2:22:52 Okay, okay. I can't imagine what would I play that.

2:22:56 Mm-hmm.

2:22:56 All right. Mack 10 or WC? Let me go ahead and cry. Shout out to Dub C2 who's still consulting. He's still consulting. On the drop too? Sure.

2:23:10 On the drop too?

2:23:11 Because I heard he was.

2:23:12 Consulting on Franklin.

2:23:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's definitely still with us for sure.

2:23:17 Yeah, right now.

2:23:18 Mm-hmm.

2:23:19 Were we drinking to that one? Oh, yeah, yeah.

2:23:22 I can say Mac-10 because Mac-10 put me on with Cash Money. I'm not getting in that shit. Mac-10 is my nigga. Mac-10 can sell me through some shit right now, so I love him to death.

2:23:31 What would it be like if West Side Connection put it all down and got back together?

2:23:35 I don't know.

2:23:38 I ain't going to even play with myself like they is. Them niggas tripping.

2:23:41 I don't think they tripping.

2:23:43 In the perfect world it'll be, but it ain't about me.

2:23:45 I got enough shit from them. So if they don't want to fuck with each other no more, that's on them. I just listen to Bow Down.

2:23:50 It's like Pete Rock and CL Smooth.

2:23:52 You know what's funny, right? Mac-10 signed me, right, and changed my life for the most part. Like, once I got my deal with Cash Money. Ice Cube, obviously, is everybody's hero. My favorite album out of all three is the shadiest one by Dub-Z.

2:24:07 Mmm.

2:24:09 So, like, that whole tandem is something, you know what I mean, that was a gift that just keep on giving.

2:24:14 I be listening to them niggas' shit, so.

2:24:16 All right.

2:24:17 Yeah.

2:24:17 Was Dubb teaching people how to crip walk on the set? Because, you know, he's like the best crip walker in the world. I don't think he wanted to teach nobody.

2:24:24 Oh, that's right. I respect that.

2:24:25 There was a moment, there was something written for somebody to quit walking. They couldn't figure out how to make it work.

2:24:29 All right.

2:24:30 Shout out to the homie from, where is Quincy from? Quincy from, he's from New York, but I don't, is he from Brooklyn? I ain't going to misquote no nigga Burrow, but the nigga from New York City, he was supposed to do it.

2:24:41 He's like, gee, I don't think I'm supposed to do this.

2:24:42 I was like, yeah, don't shout.

2:24:44 So I had to spell it because Spell was like, well, it's not that big of a deal.

2:24:48 I'm like, yeah. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal.

2:24:56 It's totally a big deal.

2:24:57 It's totally a big deal. It's totally a big deal.

2:24:59 It's totally a big deal.

2:25:00 It's totally a big deal.

2:25:12 Man, would a nigga really start crib walking after he's supposed to kill his homies? I was like, that'd probably be a crazy nigga. I don't know if we'd probably put him off. I'd be a little too excited. And he's like, I don't know. So Spelman was like, well, it's not that big.

2:25:26 I'm like, yeah.

2:25:27 Yeah, I think it's, yeah. You just don't want to, again, you don't want to offend the village of people that were depicted. Yeah. So it's not the time to just throw random things and random spots. There are places, if it's a function going on, it's a party, yeah, niggas will get down and do that, but a nigga just randomly skipping across the street.

2:25:46 I'm finna knock some nigga down, like, let me trip walk, I'm finna kiss him. Like a tribal dance or something, like, we finna go to war like natives. Not quite. Shout out to Quincy, because he brought that to my attention, this shit.

2:25:56 Because he was like, I was like, nah, that's not cool.

2:26:00 It's gonna look crazy. All right. Lady of Rage or Yo-Yo? Yo-Yo.

2:26:05 That's fucked up, man.

2:26:07 Yo-Yo. Yo-Yo, too. Yo-Yo. Yo-Yo, man.

2:26:10 Yo-Yo, my dog, too. And she's the first with Raze.

2:26:13 She's the first person to play my record on KD.

2:26:15 Man, Yo-Yo is one of the greatest people in the world.

2:26:18 Amazing. That's fucked up. That's what we do. Y'all drink it.

2:26:21 Mm-hmm.

2:26:22 Y'all drinking They picked yo-yo I picked We picked.

2:26:25 Yo-yo Yeah they picked yo-yo Y'all just wanna turn up No he said we drinking You picked both No no He just wanted a drink Raise We both said yo-yo.

2:26:35 No we said I said raise Oh you said raise Oh so then we drinking No.

2:26:38 You said raise I know You on bullshit No I said Because I can't not Give them both they props It's just crazy Alright the last one Loyalty or respect Thank you sir Or respect Okay Fuck loyalty. Uh-huh.

2:26:55 I don't need nobody to be... to follow me if I'm treating them wrong. I just need people to, you know what I mean, have that admiration for the things that I do right for them.

2:27:06 Okay.

2:27:07 I'm all respect.

2:27:08 Okay. I answered it last time, but I can give you an updated version. Yo, update. Update. Update. Update. Update.

2:27:17 Update.

2:27:18 Update.

2:27:18 Update.

2:27:21 What's most important? Neither anymore. Self-love is important. Wow. I don't expect you to be loyal to me or respect me if I don't give a fuck about myself. And that's that's where I'm at at this stage in the age of my life. I hope I would pray and hope that respect follows me and loyalty and people leave by my actions and not what they think of me.