The Arena Debate Giannis's LEGENDARY Comp, Lebron's 1ST 76ers Scrim & Jokic's Chip Window Closing Part 2

0:01 All right, well, speaking of Jokic, since you guys have been talking about him, coming off arguably one of the greatest seasons, offensively first center ever, obviously put up a triple-double. The second straight season, becoming the only center to lead the league in rebounds and assists in a season. On the Nuggets' first preseason game against the Jazz Sunday, Joker came through with another legendary dime. Let's take a look if we can. So take a look at this. Nola cross-court behind a back pass.

0:26 Oh.

0:27 Went past three Jazz defenders, found his way to Cam Johnson, who did not trick it off.

0:32 Knocked down the three. Tried that shit in the drive, boy. Woo! Woo! That shit is cold.

0:39 That shit is cold. On the money, too. We got every angle of it.

0:48 That's tough.

0:52 Shout out to Cam Johnson not tricking that off. So we'll start with you, Boogie. Boogie on the scale of 0-100. What are you giving that Jokic done?

0:59 105. 105.

0:59 That was tough. That's tough.

1:04 105.

1:04 100 plus 5. Yeah, 105.

1:05 Because I saw everybody on the internet reacting to it. I wanted to ask, obviously. High level NBA Uber. That was impressive.

1:11 That was, yeah. Swag, you looking at that Jokic?

1:16 Shit.

1:17 No look behind the back cross-court pass. Man, that could have been you in New Orleans if you acted right.

1:22 Oh, yeah, he did. Oh, he did. Oh, he did. Love to forget. Love to forget.

1:29 You wasn't going to pass it to me right there. I definitely would have passed it to you. You definitely would have. I would have passed it to you. If I would have missed you, that's what I'm saying. It's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of pressure in itself.

1:38 That's a lot of pressure in itself.

1:40 Being the right role player, see? Exactly. Get him out of here, man. Dog.

1:45 As a role player, you got to adjust your game for me.

1:51 I've been on both sides. I get it, bro. I've been on the side where I.

1:54 Was fussing at the role players, and I was getting fussed at as a role player, so I get it.

1:59 Missed them first two.

2:00 Man, look at this motherfucker. Like, fuck is he doing? Zero to 100.

2:06 Zero to 100?

2:08 When you giving that yelkish pass?

2:10 Damn.

2:12 For a person that really don't love the game like that, I gave him $ 200.

2:18 He gave him $ 200.

2:21 What if he really loved the game like that? Shit. $ 400. $ 400.

2:23 He really loved it.

2:30 Zero to $ 100 gave him $ 200. What? For a person who really don't love the game like that. When you say he don't love the game.

2:35 No, no, no.

2:36 I'm not saying nothing. I'm not starting. You just had one of those. I'm glad it wasn't me today. No, I'm just saying.

2:41 You're using shit like he don't love the game.

2:44 No, I'm just saying. He like horses and shit after that.

2:47 He likes horses and shit?

2:48 I think we got to stop saying that, too. I think the way he carries it, it's not something we're used to seeing. But you can't have these results in a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? He don't like that. You don't continue to get better like media. He don't like the media part of the game. But the game of basketball. It's hard.

3:09 We got to stop. Mom was a basketball player. Daddy was a basketball player. Both of his brothers. Like, he's a basketball family. That's all they know is basketball. He got to love the game to keep it moving the way he is.

3:19 He loves it, but he don't love it like everybody else.

3:21 No, like I said, he don't love the media. It don't look the same way.

3:24 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

3:26 Just like Kawhi. He don't like the part where he got to answer questions and shit.

3:30 He just want to play. Why not, Gil?

3:32 But a lot of people don't like that part, and they still step up and answer questions.

3:35 But you can't say he don't love the game because he don't want to answer your question.

3:38 No, he said basketball is not his main thing in life. He also said stuff like that.

3:42 But we know that's not true.

3:43 I'm just saying. It's out of his mouth, so I'm just going off the love he give off.

3:48 Well, I'm going to just be honest with you.

3:49 He's the greatest.

3:50 I'm going to just be honest with you. He's the best player in the game.

3:52 If I'm an active NBA player, I'm not going to repeat what you just said. That makes me look trash. So a guy who don't love the game is better than me and I love it?

4:00 That's what I'm saying. That makes you look trash. It does.

4:02 It does.

4:03 He love the game 400% just like I do. All right.

4:06 He's making people that love the game do 2 AMs. Because he love the game. He don't love the game like that.

4:11 He love the game. That's why.

4:12 He's number one.

4:15 You're looking at the Yonkers pass. Would you like to see it again? I know you were doing research. I don't need to see the pass again.

4:24 Are you hating on Yogi? So is that Magic Johnson? So you see the difference between someone being, this is the next Magic Johnson and it's passing, and then you see Magic Johnson passing? I think it's about how he's going to open.

4:36 For it, get down, kneel down. It's definitely Magic type shit. It's not magic exactly. It's magic type shit. Yeah, just big black niggas just coming down the corner.

4:48 A big nigga that sits in the ball is tragic. Big ass bad boys coming down.

4:53 Shit, that used to be about me. Tragic, John. Who called you that, Bookie? Man, you know, you get on that break and turn that motherfucker over.

5:03 Tragic, John.

5:05 Nah, I mean, he got something with the best vision.

5:07 Like, Ever anything big small like just just period just he can pass the ball.

5:16 He sees things that just.

5:19 It makes it impressive coming from a big man. You know I mean because usually you know we was.

5:24 Big man's. Big man's.

5:25 Come on, that pass.

5:26 Can we just run it again? I just want to see.

5:29 I used to hate doing that left-hand pass.

5:31 No, I mean, just pass period. That's impressive.

5:34 That is crazy.

5:35 At Colorado, the home of Deion Sanders.

5:38 He didn't have to catch it like this. Even if he had to catch it like this and shot it. Right here in the pocket, bro. Even if he had to extend it just a little bit, that's a shot.

5:47 And the arm didn't go off.

5:48 First preseason game, though. I'm just saying, first action back, first time. He made this pass through a zone. They were in the 2-3.

5:55 Yeah, that's crazy.

5:58 And Cam Johnson, to his credit, did not trick it off. He made this pass behind a whole zone defense.

6:02 That's the pressure.

6:03 Like, I mean, just passing.

6:04 Cam had to make that shot.

6:06 He had to make it.

6:06 Had to.

6:07 That's vision. In this economy, this day and age. That's amazing, man.

6:16 I'm always intrigued with dudes who can pass the ball like that. That type of vision. They just see things and they see angles that nobody.

6:24 Else can see. That shit crazy. Like Jason Kidd.

6:28 I've played Jason Kidd, Steve Nash. Um.

6:35 Name some bigs I could pass. Chris Webber. Arvida.

6:39 Oh, yeah.

6:40 Chris Webber. I didn't really get to play with. I got one that's asleep.

6:43 I didn't really get to play against him much, but just watching film, he had it like that.

6:48 Who that?

6:48 Arvida.

6:49 Venus.

6:49 Sabonis. Sabonis, yeah, for sure. But, like, Chris Webber was probably one of the best. I got a sleeper. Boris Diaw. Yes. Okay, well, that don't count. Why? That don't count because Boris Diaw was a point guard. No, he got fat. But Boris Neal was a point guard. Most fat people get fat.

7:05 No, because it was point guards first. Boris came in as a point guard, though.

7:10 He just got a little heavy.

7:11 I said he just got a little heavy, but yeah.

7:14 He came in as a point guard.

7:15 Came in a point, left out of sin.

7:33 Sean Kitten, I'm just playing. Unnecessary. Hey, no, no, no. Shut up, DeBoer's D.I., man.

7:39 That gift and that just seeing angles and seeing things, that's just amazing.

7:44 Shit, Powell. Powell was good. Powell was good.

7:46 Mark.

7:47 Both of them, yeah.

7:49 Boogie, back to Jokic for a second, if we can, please. Got to play against him during his ascension to three-time MVP, NBA champ, finals MVP. In your opinion, where does Jokic rank in the conversation amongst the greatest centers of all time?

8:06 That's always a tough conversation because this is all, man, we get so caught up in, like, recency bias. But I think Shaq is by far the, you know, greatest center ever. I think Hakeem is also in that same stratosphere. Kareem is also in that same stratosphere. The most winning player of all time. I don't think David Robinson gets enough credit.

8:34 Mm-hmm. Quadruple double in a game, that's some impressive shit. And he was old when he came to the league, served our country. The thing is, I.

8:46 Think the difference is the chips. All those guys kind of got multiple chips. So as of right now for me, I would put Jokic somewhere in that 7-8 range as of now. But if he gets another one, we're having a real, real conversation. I think that's top five category.

9:10 Two straight years averaging a triple-double just from the offensive ability, obviously, I think would be higher on the list. But when you incorporate defense, everything else that comes with it. I'm a little more technical when it comes to judging players.

9:25 And I feel like the players that do it on both ends, they're just in their own category as it is. You can never overlook that, but You know, his offensive, if we're just talking offense, I think he's number one. Just offense alone, I think he's clear-cut number one. So you think offensively, Jokic is the greatest center?

9:43 Absolutely. Offensively? Absolutely. I mean, who can we argue? Yeah. I don't know.

9:57 I don't say will, but. I mean, I suggested he's in his own. We got all this technology. I ain't seen no film yet.

10:05 You know.

10:06 In the dream, I could argue the dream, too. On offense, yeah.

10:09 On offense, yeah.

10:11 It can be an argument, but. It's hard to include Wilt just because the shit he was doing was so absurd.

10:16 For sure.

10:16 We talking about a dude that's scoring anywhere on the floor. Okay, I'm... Anywhere on the floor, he can score the ball. We got to stop doing that to Wilk.

10:25 Yeah, that's the thing.

10:26 You know what I mean? How are we going to support someone we ain't never seen? No, but we know he played. It's only one person get that luxury.

10:33 That's God, homie. No, no.

10:35 Like, I think the problem is, is we try to justify... not putting him where he possibly belongs and.

10:46 Say, oh, we didn't see it. Oh, exclude him.

10:49 Like you're like, what if somebody said, you know, exclude Jordan because he's a goal.

10:53 So let's talk about who the best player is. That becomes a whole different conversation.

10:57 Kind of do do that.

10:58 Yeah, you can't.

10:58 You know, like if.

11:00 I average 50 something, you know what? Them video game numbers don't count, man. We're going to exclude you. And then we're going to start our list here.

11:07 Like.

11:10 I'm not excluding Will. I'm just not putting him in that. I mean, Will can be six.

11:16 Whoa. I've never seen nothing. We ain't never seen none of these niggas. All I've seen was this. I'm going to go do that later and see if it's believable.

11:25 That's all I've seen was 100 points.

11:28 That's all I've seen. He said, that's all I've seen. That's all I've ever seen. Average 54 seasons. I get it. I get it. Playing 48 minutes per game. I'm just saying. I get it.

11:39 While clapping cheeks, living in Harlem and driving to Philly, staying up all night in cheeks and then going out averaging 50.

11:48 How many teams were in the NBA then? About four, six. It's an AAU program. A little life schedule. It wasn't the full circuit. What did I say the other day? Context matters. It wasn't the full circuit.

12:01 All right, man.

12:02 We're going to leave it at that. It started off like 9, 12. There was some teams that.

12:06 The only other big was Bill Russell.

12:08 They stopped playing midway through the season. It was two big men in the whole league.

12:16 It was 12 teams?

12:17 Yeah, it was like towards the end of the season. It was just like, y'all six teams don't need to come.

12:22 All right, so when did it start?

12:24 All right, so when Kareem came in, how many teams was in that day?

12:29 14. I think it was like 14, 16, like 20. It started moving up when he was in. Damn. So it was diluted.

12:36 I'm trying to think. He had what? How many points?

12:38 40,000?

12:38 39? I'm working on it.

12:41 I think he came in 69 for number second, 14 teams. Yeah, 14. Yes, he was 14. How many games were they playing?

12:46 That's what I'm saying. How many points he scored? They had to play each other at least five times. The only thing I don't like about the era.

12:52 40,000 points. I don't like the reason.

12:54 The only thing I have to question from that era compared to everybody else is the same amount of all-stars made it.

13:03 So now think about it. You got 14 teams.

13:06 Then I think it was 22 All-Stars. So think about who was making it. You got people coming off the bench making it. Everybody who started damn near made it. If you was a starting guard on a team, you're supposed to make the All-Star game. Which now, some of these guys got seven, eight All-Stars.

13:23 Eight teams, yeah.

13:29 And how many games did they play a season?

13:31 Is that right? 82.

13:32 Somewhere around 80? No, they moved to 82. I had to look this up, Gil, because, you know, I don't know.

13:40 I think 69, 70 season.

13:41 Yeah, so Bill, I mean, if he played every game, there was 72 games.

13:46 Damn, with 18? So in 1959, 1960, whoop, had 71 big man? Get that shit out of here, bro. Come on, bro. There you go. Context matters. But playing in Chuck's.

13:58 But, okay, so, and I think that's why.

14:03 I think that's why David Stern.

14:05 I think that's why David Stern kind of, like.

14:09 Moved him, and he really.

14:12 If you think about David Stern and what we know now, they really don't have that pass like that. They kind of, like, give him their shot out, but they're not really pushed into days. Once Jordan, Magic, and Bird came, it was like, we're all together now, black and white, all the leagues, this is the best.

14:31 It kind of started from there.

14:33 Because when you start looking at these things, it's like, why wasn't Bill Russell the GOAT? And they're like, well, the rules was different then. Some teams, like, I don't like Nick, right? You're playing Nick. and we can't win, I'm going to give you my superstar. Here, just have him.

14:49 Right?

14:49 So players was getting put to Boston Celtics for Boston Celtics. Like, I don't like Wilt, so I'm going to give you my stars so you can keep me from winning the championship.

14:58 Right.

14:58 So they were doing that back then. So now you got, like, 12 Hall.

15:02 Of Famers on the same team.

15:04 Right.

15:04 Right?

15:05 So there was no free agency in trade. But they were team stacking back then, too. Yeah, they were stacking. They're in the new thing. Yeah. You're not going to start hating when one person started. Interesting.

15:17 They were big time stacking.

15:19 Oh, okay.

15:19 So that sounds like NBA culture. All right, well, let's hit the Denver Nuggets real quick.

15:24 Oh, damn. So last year. You didn't know that?

15:26 I didn't know that.

15:27 Yeah, there was no free agent.

15:28 I didn't know.

15:29 It was just trade. So we just had to trade. So I'm going to trade you these three stars.

15:33 You give me back these. Oh, yeah.

15:35 And they could draft somebody. Yeah.

15:37 Yeah.

15:38 And keep them in college for like two years back in the day.

15:40 Trading the motherfucker for $ 200.

15:42 Yeah, they knew they had money.

15:43 You just trade. Yeah, it was.

15:44 It was.

15:46 But, I mean, they were trying to make something. Yeah. All right. Well, let's get this thing moving.

15:49 Before we do, shout out to the nearly 20,000 people that are in our chat right now on this glorious Monday.

15:54 If you're in the chat right now, NBA season's back. If you're in the chat. That's why they're here. If you're in the chat. Lakers tonight, baby. That's why they're here.

16:03 Late the night, you know Luka playing.

16:06 And Manly Miller playing. Luka playing. Wait, who playing? Let's go.

16:11 Let's go. Let's go.

16:12 That's real basketball.

16:13 Real ball.

16:14 Real ball.

16:15 Real showtime.

16:16 I know one team won't be having stars tonight. All the stars. Who? Chris Cole looking at Mr. T. See that ball hitting over there.

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16:35 One more thing we're going to talk about real quick because we got to, you know, we talk yoga, we might as well hit nuggets while we still can before this season.

16:40 Hold on, hold on. Before you do that. No. If you are anti-Philadelphia.

16:46 No.

16:47 Put the fire emojis in the chat. Nah, after you hit the like button. Yeah, look at all these fire emojis. Because if you are.

16:53 I see doves in the chat.

16:56 Yo, they're already putting fire emojis. I know, I know.

16:58 If you are pro-Gills Arena, put the fire emojis in the chat and hit the like button. Yo, you can stop hating on Brown. We got a Brown on the Lakers, too. We got Brown on both coasts. I'm sorry, man. Every coast has a Brown.

17:10 It just don't look... Like, Philly, just the jersey don't look white to me.

17:14 This shit just don't, like... Even if you look at it, you just be like... It just don't fit.

17:21 Number nine.

17:22 Fucking bald head with the beard. Like, you're supposed to have a gray beard. Now the shit all black. Now you Beijing-ing the shit out of your shit.

17:30 Now you're cutting your hair. Like, you're too glossy, my nigga. Like, you're all Hollywood over here. This switch up is crazy. This switch up is crazy. You're glossy. You're all glossy. You shining and shit. I don't like a nigga shining. Rock the Jerry curl whip. I don't know.

17:45 It was like he put like real grease and oils in this.

17:49 Like he just leaves this shit doing this. You supposed to. No, he didn't do that here.

17:54 Yeah, that shit was great.

17:55 We had grays here. The air pressure was. I don't know what it is. I just don't like the.

18:01 Moisture in the air. I just ain't accept it. It's a little dry on the West Coast.

18:06 You got to look young with them, though.

18:07 You got to look young with them.

18:09 It's like watching your girl go somewhere else, and then now she got the little lips, she got new.

18:13 Boobs, little booty. She thin right here, snatched real good. You really mad? I got your little Birkin bags. The truth's only coming out. You're going mad. Boys sound a little different, like... You missing Bron in that purple and gold, huh?

18:27 They stop paying you?

18:28 Huh?

18:29 Brian, Clutch stop paying you?

18:31 No, now they got to pay me if you want me to talk good. You're not a Laker. Laker, you already got that treatment. You got the God treatment. You got the God treatment.

18:38 Now you don't. You got it. Write a check now. You don't got to write a check then. He going with him. No, no, no.

18:46 LeBron has got them with $ 30 million. $ 30 million out of deal for a patch on a shirt. Philly got three years, 90 or some shit like that. Well, a patch.

18:55 They getting money in Philly now, bud.

18:58 The worst place you want to give money to. Philly? Philly? Yeah. I can't wait. Bloom Energy. I can't wait for New York to go over there, baby. I can't wait for New York to go over there. What about L.A.? What they going to do when they go over there?

19:12 L.A.? Yeah. They don't want to go there.

19:15 LeBron going to miss it.

19:16 Too many hits.

19:17 He ain't going to garlic. City of brotherly love.

19:18 Too many blacks.

19:19 Too many blacks.

19:20 Yeah.

19:21 We're going to treat them like we did it back in the day. Snow time.

19:25 Water holes.

19:26 Jerry West days, baby.

19:27 Get the hose out.

19:31 Oh, man.

19:33 I ain't playing with suckers.

19:34 Just getting hit with the water pump. Just minding your.

19:36 Business and getting hit with the water pump.

19:39 How you gonna meet with this fucking high-pressure asshole?

19:43 I got all my jerseys ready for this year to wear, baby.

19:47 Lakers good. I got my AJ. came in. My A.J. jersey came in.

19:52 A.J.

19:52 DeBonsa? You got to pronounce A.J. 's name correctly, too. That's my second team. A.J. DeBonsa. DeBonsa. DeBonsa.

19:58 When they play? Huh? When they play? When the women play?

20:01 They should be playing tonight. No, they don't play tonight. Huh?

20:04 That's a good one.

20:05 Maybe Friday, Saturday. Niggas excited for preseason? God, it's good.

20:08 You're not? I'm excited. Man, I don't know what it is this year, man.

20:14 I have no excitement in my life.

20:15 Because of everybody teaming up, this is like reality TV right now.

20:21 This is like reality TV. I ain't going to lie to you.

20:24 I think Wizards first game, Wizards Thursday against the Knicks.

20:27 Thursday against the Knicks. Yeah. And you can go on Polymarket. Because I'm doing that game live.

20:32 You can go on Polymarket and trade on NBA preseason games. Let's see if you're really about this life. But time to try and finesse some bread on Polymarket. This is Put That On Something. We're going to give you a trade on the Polymarket app. You got to pick a side and put that on something. Week four of the NFL season concludes with a Monday night NFC showdown between the Falcons and Saints.

20:50 Oh, shucks.

20:51 Swaggy, your two favorite teams? I like the Falcons over this one. As for shucks, both teams, 1-2 to start this season. Desperate need of a win. Saints are currently favorite in the game. Who's that, 53% of traders?

21:03 53% of traders.

21:05 Picking them to get the win. While the Falcons are sitting at 48%. But let's take it to the couch. Swaggy, we'll start with you, our resident football expert. Long time Chicago Bears fan.

21:16 I got Falcons. I like Penix. He was balling last week.

21:20 You like Penix?

21:21 They finally got the quarterback they need right now.

21:23 So you're a big fan of Penix?

21:25 Penix?

21:26 Penix.

21:27 Oh, so you're a big fan of Penix. Penix. Yeah, I like Penix.

21:31 Grady Dick.

21:32 Penix. Penix.

21:34 Penix. Penix. Sorry, I'm uncomfortable, man. Me too. Why you love Penix? I ain't uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. Let's shift over to this side, Boogie.

21:43 We'll see you later.

21:44 Another Raiders took a tough one. We ain't got to bring that up. No, we're going to go 16-1. It's fine. It's not a big deal. 16-1. Motherfucker fumbled on the kickoff, man. You know, things happen in life. All right, what we got? Who's winning Monday Night Football, Falcons or Saints? I'm going to go Saints. Who that?

22:06 Damn.

22:06 I don't think they're going to beat the Saints. Last but not least, Gil. Who that? Rams got a win against the Eagles in Philly. Oh, that matters, baby. In Philly. That's all that matters.

22:15 You was right. You was right.

22:16 It's coming in there. LeBron's aura uplifted.

22:19 I tried to tell you, LA is coming in there.

22:21 LeBron's aura. Whooping ass. You're not going to leave here. They better get healthy.

22:25 Saquon got hurt.

22:26 I don't give a fuck who was there. LeBron was probably at the game. He was probably at the game. LeBron's aura was in the Philly.

22:34 Lakers. No, I'm a Rams fan. I go to a lot of games. Who? LeBron, Raymond, James. I thought LeBron was a Cowboys fan. He ain't jump shit.

22:44 I really thought he was a Cowboys fan.

22:46 He a Cowboys fan. He embraces the Rams, gentlemen. He goes to a lot of the Rams. No, that's when he was in L.A. He switched up. He embraces the Rams.

22:53 Probably a Philly fan now. I'm going with the Saints also.

23:00 Can we put something on this since I'm going with the Falcons?

23:04 You can go to the Polymarket app and put as much as you like on it to make a great trade.

23:08 Put on what? A great trade.

23:10 You can't even have a shot.

23:11 I forgot. Let me see them frames. Huh? Keep them, Boogie. Don't give them back.

23:15 It's a description. Oh, no, no, no. They gave them to me. What size frames you wear?

23:19 Yeah, let me see. What size frames you wear so I can go give them to Boogie? No, no. ASAP gave them to me. Okay.

23:27 A $ AP Rocky. He shared the same, so he was like, since we shared the same.

23:30 Nah, they used to fart. Those look like they're a boogie's friends now, Swaggy. That was, put that on something.

23:35 Why you do that?

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23:49 Holly Market, no limits, no house, instant cash outs, the most accurate sports odds and forecasts in the world. All right, ladies and gentlemen, it is Monday. We got a ton of preseason tonight. Let's move to our Mostly Fans segment. If we can, please get Mostly Fans ready to go.

24:03 Did your daddy play against Will?

24:06 No, but when he was older, he came to play. He's hard. Somebody in the chat asked.

24:15 You're going to read it.

24:17 No, my dad was on 520 recently talking about how they revered Wilt and how much love they have for Wilt. And Wilt was that dude. All the cheek clapping, but still getting buckets. Man of the work. 20,000. Gotta respect the extracurriculars. Just do the math, ladies and gentlemen. And still keeping the legs strong enough to go average.

24:33 We already know you're going to put, we put double on it. You know what I mean? If I got a dollar in my pocket, I'm going to say I got two. Man of integrity.

24:41 So, $ 10, 000.

24:43 5,000. A man of integrity.

24:45 2,000. I mean, it ain't even got to be 20,000.

24:51 2,000 is a lot of people.

24:54 Will Chamberlain, a man of integrity. Nobody was thinking that, though. To say that number, nobody was thinking that.

24:58 He was the first to.

24:59 Say that number.

25:00 Kept very documented.

25:00 He ain't had people trying to reach that goal. A lot of people on his couch trying to reach that goal.

25:05 20,000? His connection. Who? 20,000 people. What's his number?

25:14 I thought it was 10.

25:16 20,000, I believe. I ain't never tried that.

25:18 I ain't tried 20.

25:18 That's it.

25:20 You have to maximize your time. Be efficient, ladies and gentlemen. Efficiency is key.

25:25 20 is crazy. That's a lot of soul time. That is a lot of soul time.

25:29 Nah, it can happen, though. Think about it.

25:30 It can happen, brother. Man, you done had times before.

25:33 20,000.

25:33 And hooping? 20,000 and hooping? Living the life in New York? Well, it was only 18.

25:42 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

25:46 A lot more down time, I guess.

25:49 Hippies and shit. They sleeping on the grass, man.

25:53 Man, it's not the 80s, so it's not like a whole bunch of crackheads.

25:57 There wasn't none of that shit you get. Oh, yeah.

26:05 I'm just letting you guys cook.

26:06 No, I mean, I'm just trying now thinking about it.

26:09 Like, when they sit in there, be like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever. But the, like, 20,000. That's a lot. That's everybody. That's a lot of people who know you. That's every woman.

26:20 That's an order.

26:21 That's everybody woman, dog.

26:22 That's an order.

26:22 Brother, that's everybody's woman.

26:25 It happens.

26:26 Everybody walking down the street. Everybody walking down the street.

26:29 You can see the people who love.

26:31 Will co-owned a Harlem nightclub called Smalls Paradise.

26:34 So the work was coming to him. Yeah.

26:37 The work was coming to him. Three a day, every day for 20 years. Yeah, three a day, every day for 20 years. Consistency is key in life. And whatever you're doing, ladies and gentlemen.

26:45 He didn't get sick. He didn't have sick days. The motherfucker didn't catch the flu or nothing. Some days he probably had four, five. A little stomach virus. Yeah. Come on, man. Seven days in. Come on, man. They didn't even have private jets back then. They had to go commercial. He owned the nightclub. You say all his love was inflated.

27:07 He might have doubled up if they changed their hair color.

27:09 If I'm averaging 53 and motherfucking 25, God damn it, I'm sleeping with 35,000 women.

27:14 I'm going to say the same shit. I'm going to say the same thing.

27:17 But it wasn't no shaming back then. He wasn't shaming girls for doing it.

27:21 Okay, I want y'all to really think this.

27:22 They wasn't shaming people.

27:24 Just think about what? Just think about this. I just think he's a mythical creature at this point.

27:28 There's 23. thousand people he slept with.

27:32 I think he doubled up on some numbers. Listen, you know what I'm saying? Where's all the Wilt kids? He didn't have no kids, huh?

27:42 Immaculate pull-out game. Man, fuck off. We try to do back-to-back with a condom. Limp.

27:49 Limp. It wasn't even a condom, man.

27:50 I don't have AIDS. Oh, exactly.

27:52 So you're talking about 20,000 women. What I'm saying is 20,000 women. Where's the kids? Where's all these kids at? 20,000 women? You're talking about you didn't make no mistakes? No, we'll... Ten times, four times, two times?

28:05 There should be some size 17s walking around this market.

28:07 Yeah, he should.

28:08 If he had 100 kids, we'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

28:14 Three a day, your shit getting, it's like, it ain't as potent.

28:18 As it's supposed to be. At minimum.

28:20 It's not potent, bro.

28:21 All right, well, let's hit our mostly fans before we get kicked off of YouTube. So we got a question from The Wizard N. The Wizard N has been donating every single day. Chat, chat, please distinguish yourself. Rise above. Get noticed. Shout out to The Wizard.

28:35 Get noticed.

28:36 He said, what's a trade you do to fix the Hawks? Boogie, I know you've been very high on the Hawks. One day we will talk about them when time permits.

28:45 A trade?

28:45 I wouldn't do nothing right now. I think they made some improvements over the summer. Adding a bigger wing defender in a Lou Dort. Also, championship experience, DNA. Bring winning ways to that team. I think they improved pretty well over the summer. I wouldn't make no trades for the Hawks, honestly.

29:07 That may be a question more so for a couple games in or towards the end of the year. But as of right now, nothing.

29:15 All right, we got a comment from Golden Boy NBA. It said, broad new nickname, quote, unquote, the quarter horse. Do I know what that means?

29:22 Okay. I'm just reading.

29:24 The Wizard in another super chat said, how can Orlando become championship ready?

29:32 Team up with Miami. One team, the NFL team that does that. You know what I mean? Miami and Orlando. just combine teams. Y'all will be ready. Team Florida. Y'all will be ready.

29:48 Nah, I think for the Magic, I think they just got to figure out the Franz, Wagner, Apollo situation. Who do you want your clear-cut you know, number one to be. And who do you plan on, you know, playing the offense through? I think that's more so their issue. And just them two, you know, more so learning how to play together and then actually, you know, turning into something.

30:12 Besides just numbers from both. I think that's.

30:14 Sort of the issue. There ain't no point guard that could set stuff up, though. You know what I mean?

30:20 They definitely missing PG. Well, I like the young kid, Black.

30:24 Black.

30:24 He's on his way. He's on his way. He got a lot of game. So, uh, I wouldn't necessarily say the point guard issue. He may not be where.

30:34 They want him to be right now.

30:34 I'm not talking about like a scorer. Yeah, I'm talking about like a Rondo for them. Like somebody that can sit.

30:39 And there ain't many Rondos out there, brother. No, there ain't. Just throw that name out there. It's crazy. Rondo will fix a lot of things.

30:48 I'm talking about somewhere along those lines. Because I feel like Wagner and.

30:53 I mean, I would say Suggs is a... Nah, he'd like to get to that cup.

30:59 Because Wagner and Wilford Carter, they feel like they fighting over.

31:05 They do need more of a setup. Yeah, more structure, I feel like. If not a point guard or just a player.

31:10 I mean, shit.

31:14 If Ben Simmons was, you know, if he was on top of his game right now, he would actually be a good fit there. I think right here when you look at it. Get them a lot of size as well. Man, that'll be a scary lineup.

31:30 6'10, 6'10, 6'9. Wendell Carter.

31:32 For sure.

31:34 Even Anthony Black. Yeah, I'm looking at like. Oh, they got Desmond Bain. I'm tripping. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. But he's just small. But he's perfect though. He can guard the point guards, whatever. I think, man, that'll actually be a nice thing. Bring in a Ben Simmons once he.

31:52 If he starts playing well this year, I would make a trade for him.

31:56 Who? Josh Giddey? No, they just need time. Josh Giddey would be a good option. Yep, yep. Another big guard as well. The Gidler. The Gidler.

32:04 I don't need a guy that can shoot the ball. He's freaky, though. You ought to watch him. Neither confirmed nor denied. I would make this start for Anthony Black as my starter.

32:15 I'm glad you said that.

32:16 I got Anthony Black as a starter, 6'7. They do us the same way. And then I got Baines as my shooting guard at small.

32:21 Anthony Black at Gilbert Arena. And then... Paulo... They have a good team. They do. I think they're messing up the guard. I'm going with Black. I'm not going to go with Suggs. No, I like Black. Yeah, I'm going with Black. I'm not going to go with Suggs.

32:37 But to answer the question of like a Rondo-type player... Yeah, it's... I would say a Ben Simmons or a Giddy is another good option.

32:47 Anthony, I know Black. I got three players averaging 20. I think they just need time.

32:53 Like, this is a team that just needs time for the two players up top to mature, figure out what their real game is, right, make that extra leap, and then once they make that extra leap, we know we got. But I'm taking Black. Like, right now, Black, Paolo, and Wagner, untradeable for me.

33:11 Shout out Paolo. Yeah, Orlando, Pallone, Woodland Hill. But Suggs is young, too. Shit. Suggs is limited to me, though. Yeah, he's limited. He's great defensively, though.

33:21 All right, we got a question from Geraldini, the one and only Gerald McCoy, friend of the arena, ESPN legend, NFL legend.

33:32 He said, y'all best.

33:34 Team in college versus others on the couch. Whose team wins? So Swag, you're best team in college. Boogie, you're best team in college. That's not even a question. You're best team in college. It's not even close.

33:44 He killing y'all.

33:46 He had five first-rounders, man. He did, too. Who?

33:49 Taj Gibson.

33:51 What's up? He came through it. Star.

33:56 We got a squad, boy.

33:57 We got a squad. Taj was 32 in college, man.

34:00 That's what I'm saying. He was older than y'all, motherfucker.

34:02 Nah, Taj.

34:03 Nah, he was 22.

34:03 Shout out to Grandpa, man.

34:05 Right? That's my dog.

34:06 Yeah. I got to look at his team. Hold on. Let me. Taj was 47 in college. Let me see. We was cheating, man. Your team was very bitter. I'm a role player. Okay. What year was that? 10. 10. Who was on your squad? Jefferson? Richard was on your squad? He was third option. Who was second?

34:32 Simon.

34:33 Michael Wright.

34:34 Yeah, we know.

34:37 2010. Let me see.

34:39 Who was y'all center?

34:41 Lauren Woods. I don't even know who that is. Okay, y'all. End of the conversation. Who y'all at?

34:50 Me, Patrick Patterson. We had a guy named Darius Miller. Eric Blesso, John Wall.

34:56 Hold on. We're beating the shit out of this group. Hold on. Hold on. Whoever the fuck Lawrence Wood is don't stand a chance. Whatever. Whoever the fuck. I have no clue. No disrespect. Don't have a chance.

35:11 Hold on, man. Wait a minute. I'm going to be a real victim that day. But they went to the finals, though. Michael Ryder be guarding him. Elite Eight.

35:28 I don't know, man. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. So John Wall. You can't guard John. John Wall is. John Wall. First of all, we was probably fastest in the country. Who's guarding John Wall on that? Stop. No, bro. I ran a 10-3 in high school. I was a track star. Man, so? I was a track star. We ain't running track. We running with a basketball. Yeah. Man, fuck out of here. Jason Gardner's guarding him. Guarding who?

35:56 John Wall. Man, stop. Like, John Wall's number one. He was number two in high school. Stop.

36:01 Gardner.

36:02 Stop. Perfect point guard. McDonald's All-American. Like, it was four McDonald's All-American, then it was me.

36:08 Man, we talking about a number one pick, bro. McDonald's All-American. You're talking about college? You're talking about the success or in college?

36:18 In college. At the moment in college?

36:22 How much y'all average, though, in college?

36:25 John was a first-team All-American.

36:27 That's a freshman. A lot of y'all average around 15, 14. That's what I'm saying. The whole team, I was 15.

36:33 We bopping these tickets.

36:35 Y'all was young, though.

36:38 Y'all was all freshmen. They was all freshmen. We weren't all freshmen. We had three freshmen. That's what I'm saying. Patrick Patterson, manhandling whoever at the four.

36:51 Superhuff. Manhandling.

36:53 Remember him?

36:54 It was only in one year?

36:55 Nah, because I played the four in college.

36:57 Man, you ain't even a thot.

36:59 You really cute, dog.

37:00 You don't even play defense.

37:01 You really cute, dog. No. Because I would have had you. Oh, no, that's before. Yep, Vucevic.

37:05 Vucevic was not on your team.

37:07 Taj Gibson.

37:07 Vucevic was after me.

37:09 We got DeMar DeRozan.

37:11 DeMar was on your team.

37:12 O.J. Mayo.

37:14 O.J. Mayo. O.J.

37:17 Hold on.

37:18 Y'all had Gabe Pruitt.

37:19 Gabe Pruitt.

37:20 Gabe Pruitt was a hooper. He was a hooper. Yeah, for sure. He was DeMar Vucevic. The only recognized O.J. still at USC, O.J.

37:27 Mayo.

37:29 All right. I don't know. What's your team, Josiah? I already told you that. Y'all liked your team, but you.

37:34 Guys were beatable.

37:35 They got the names, but y'all were.

37:38 You were beatable. I don't know. We was beatable?

37:40 Y'all lost, man.

37:41 We was going down as one of the greatest back then. That's cool. Did y'all beat UCLA? How many games did y'all lose? Did we beat UCLA, really? How many games did y'all lose? Did we beat UCLA?

37:50 Whoa.

37:52 Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, hold on.

37:58 Name-wise, UCLA could be, like, if it comes to this. Now y'all trying to.

38:05 Look for shit. But we had a squad. Like, a squad.

38:08 It was like an all-star team that just didn't get old.

38:11 We like the nightlife. That's just not in this conversation. We like the nightlife. Gazuri, Matt Barnes, Capone.

38:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:17 BD, you got him at Young. BD might have been going two-way radio. The question was the guys on the couch. Oh, okay, so look. So we got... For you, gentlemen. See, I have it 16, 15.

38:29 Just name the motherfuckers, though.

38:31 How many games y'all lose at you? I don't know. We went to the championship. That's fine. How many games did y'all lose? We lost eight. We lost three. Mm.

38:40 Mm.

38:41 That's freshman.

38:42 We got two more comments, and these are big time. So our first question. Our first question from agrayday212. Agrayday212, $ 50 on the offering plate. Said, Josiah, can you look up and pose to the panel who they think is the lowest percentage shooting team since 2000? Who do you guys think is the lowest percentage shooting team?

39:04 Don't tell them, man. Y'all remember Eddie House? Eddie House has 60.

39:10 Oh, he was cooking.

39:11 Eddie House ain't bless her. Lock that down.

39:13 Wow, shut up.

39:15 Eddie House ain't bless her.

39:16 Eddie House got 60 in the plug on DirecTV. You have the plug on the DirecTV chips that got all the channels.

39:23 I had to lock that down. It was seven and eight, that's all. Both games, seven, then eight, or eight, then seven.

39:29 It was a lot.

39:30 Matter.

39:30 You remember Michigan State that won the championship?

39:34 That same year? Beat them by like 25. What they got to do with us?

39:37 We got to hurt.

39:38 I think y'all good at the big, but our.

39:41 Big defense was, them boys was good. Man, you an out show. Bridget Jefferson in the back. Luke Walton coming off the bench. Who?

39:49 Luke Walton. They had a squad, though. Pass it. They had a squad.

39:54 I'm out that back door.

39:56 Who Luke guard?

39:58 It's college, man. It's the sixth level. Fuck if it's middle school.

40:01 In college, you could.

40:02 He come off the bench. Hey, Luke got some shit.

40:04 You know we have more pros coming off our bench, right? I didn't name the rest of the pros. DeAndre Liggins, Josh Harrelson, who else am I missing?

40:17 I heard bologna, mayonnaise, lettuce, tomatoes.

40:25 This thing didn't start singing then.

40:28 We had real pros. Al Sharpton.

40:34 Kurt Franklin.

40:36 No, no, no.

40:38 College basketball tours that back end when freshmen had to go. They started getting a lot better.

40:46 I'd probably be glad to go one, two, then three.

40:49 Man, you better stop.

40:50 Gil, stop.

40:51 Stop. Stop.

40:54 Y'all not even the best. Y'all not even the best.

40:57 We beat the best Arizona team.

40:59 The best Arizona team is us. No. No. You was with Mike Bibby then? Nah. Even Mike Bibby then?

41:05 That was the best one.

41:06 They won a championship? Ah, they wasn't fucking with us.

41:09 Man, stop.

41:10 We always have that. They're not fucking with us. The fact that y'all, you said Richard Jefferson came off the bench? Nah, he was just third option. Behind who?

41:18 Better than that team.

41:19 Me and Michael Wright? I know you, but Michael Wright, I don't know.

41:22 Yeah, that team.

41:23 Lefty Post, big. Oh, he was big? Yeah, he was big. Strong, big strong.

41:28 And he just, he was like a... He played like a Z-Bow style. But he was muscle. He played like under the basket.

41:37 Move out of the way. So we have a question from A, Gray Day, 212.

41:42 $ 50 on the offering plate. They want to know, wants me to ask you, who do you think is the lowest percentage shooting team since 2000? The lowest percentage shooting team since 2000.

41:53 Shooting?

41:53 Is outside shooting count? I'm going field goal percentage. They made all layups. What's a team with no shooting? I'm going to go Chicago.

42:06 What year? Shooting? What year? Low percentage? I'd say two years ago.

42:15 I would say 2,000. Is that like the Marcus Fizer years? I'm going to read them to you before you just give me. You're a close boogie. I go 2023.

42:29 Okay.

42:29 What team? Chicago.

42:32 Okay.

42:36 So, he's saying what team, so I'm staying with Chicago.

42:40 2011-2012, Bobcats shot 41% from the field for the season.

42:45 That's not it.

42:46 In 2003-2004, the Chicago Bulls and Golden State Warriors both shot 41.6%.

42:51 Was Marcus Fizer on that team?

42:53 03-04.

42:53 Was he on that team?

42:55 Like, I'm just thinking about the draft picks that he was, right?

42:58 Thinking about that Bobcats team, bro.

43:02 Think about that team, bro.

43:04 There's no shooting. Hold on, Gil. I'm sorry. Chad, if you guys are faster than me.

43:09 That's my man, Crash.

43:11 Marcus Fleischer was on that.

43:13 Yeah, yeah.

43:13 Yeah, that team was hot trash. Like a motherfucker over there. Gil, Marcus Fleischer also huffed. Let's keep that in mind.

43:19 No, no, no. I'm just saying, I'm just thinking about the picks that was coming in.

43:22 Ain't you tired of big niggas trying to whoop your ass?

43:24 No, I didn't say he was trash.

43:26 I'm saying, no, I'm saying the team. I'm thinking like, I know.

43:29 Marcus Fiverr came to your head when he said the asses team.

43:33 No, when he said the Bulls, now I'm thinking like. Marcus Fiverr. I remember the Bulls team we played back then couldn't shoot for shit.

43:39 All right, so we got one more. This is from KingSB1995. Said, what big man should the Cavs trade for to beat championship contenders? What big man should the Cavs trade for?

43:47 Shaq? This is Shaq.

43:55 I personally think their four or five is good.

44:03 I like it for when they compliment each other. Yeah, but to win a championship? I think it starts with the one, two, and three.

44:10 Maybe so, but if they're trying to win a championship, it ain't... You're shooting all this... I like Mitchell. It's smaller, so you need a bigger point guard. You got a bigger point guard.

44:20 Yeah, so James. And then what's your three? Peyton Watson.

44:23 They just paid him.

44:24 Oh, they just got Peyton.

44:24 Yeah.

44:25 All right, well, that was mine.

44:27 That might be all right.

44:28 They all good things. I like them. But I like the four and five. I like their fives. I like their bigs. But to win a championship.

44:35 Yes. What's the question?

44:38 I like Afro, man.

44:40 I don't like Afro. Stretch. Yeah, I like Afro, man. I don't like talking about Afro. He would have seen Kyrie. He loyal, man. He is loyal. He does rock the Kyrie. Kyrie. Oh, never mind. Never mind.

44:52 But ladies and gentlemen, preseason, we got a full slate of games. I think five or six games tonight. What we got right now is what we're going to take. But appreciate everybody.

45:02 On this show.

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45:12 We will see y'all tomorrow.