Grand Dame, Grand Divide | RHOP Recap with Dustin, Blue and Dominique

Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Let's get into the Real Housewives of Potomac.

This episode was full of personal story. I want to kick things off with talking about new Potomac housewife, Courtney, who was lingerie shopping with Ashley and Karen.

And in this scene, Courtney has revealed that she is, you know, prophetic. She's a prophet. She said, I can see dead people.

She said that she could see angels and demons and she's had this special asset going for herself since she was a child and she also has seen demons manifest in people.

Blue, obviously I'm starting with you.

Courtney also was being asked by Ashley based on some of her commentary in her car about the world ending during COVID, the electricity.

All those things. But what are your thoughts on Kourtney? Because you're clairvoyant, right?

Kourtney is it.

Okay.

So blue. I couldn't wait to ask you these questions. What are your thoughts on Kourtney and her special powers?

Oh, my God. Okay.

You think she got the oil blue?

No, she don't.

Don't buy nothing from Blue Centric Shop, Kourtney. Please, I don't want no credit for that.

I like Kourtney, by the way.

I think she's interesting.

You like them kooky.

So here's the thing.

I'm not sure that's an endorsement, Carlos. Ooh, mess. Yay.

What does that mean?

So as a clerk cognizant, as in I do this professionally, it's how I pay my mortgage and stuff. I get nervous when people who I fear might be having religious psychosis claim to be claircognizant or clairvoyant or clairsentient.

I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry because I don't mean no harm.

But this nigga just said.

People who are experiencing religious psychosis claim to be clairvoyant.

What? Okay, I just, I get scared because they're not the same. Okay, let's not get them crossed.

No, I had a cousin who got, you know, diagnosed with schizophrenia. And the first thing they took away was his Bible because he had religious psychosis.

And so I'm just saying, legally, not legally, clinically speaking, I.

Don't think that she's kindred in that way. And I do think that she believes that she's a prophet. It's just really weird talking about angels and demons while Karen is showing flashbacks of her slapping Ashley's cheeks.

It was a lot happening in the edit. For me, nothing about that felt holy. You know what I mean? So it was lots of jiggling, crooked wigs, ass cheeks. It was just a lot. I think she's a kooky character.

We love Stacey for being kooky, so I'm not turned off by it, right? So I'm saying that the religious stuff, if I saw her in the front seat of her car saying the end of days is happening next Thursday... And we have plans on Friday and you showed up. I feel like the calendar would tell you maybe you weren't right, Prophet. But sure, we can play along. I just hope that she gets less out of this religious bag and more into other stuff because I think she's more interesting than that. I think her talking about her fertility struggle was way more interesting than her speaking in tongues.

I think her and her husband and showing how he holds space for her was way, you know we love to see a supportive husband, all one and a half of them that show up every season, right? Every season y'all get one good husband and maybe a leg of somebody else. So the fact that she seems to have the one husband that they're going to share all season, I love that for her.

Let's lean to that.

Her boys think she on bullshit. Let's let into your kids think of you nuts too. Like there's so much fun to her. I just don't want to hear about angels and demons and prophets and ass cheeks. It's just, it don't, it's not, I know I'm Buddhist.

I should mind my business, but it's just not, it's not hitting from what I remember from my church days.

Dominique Morgan.

You know, um, I'm.

Not going to knock anybody's calling and the things I'm a Pisces.

Listen, I love it. That's what Raven said. Listen, it's my.

That being said, I think one, I want to see this conversation with the former First Lady.

So I want to see how Giselle processes this. Right?

Because I think that is That's an important conversation. I know Giselle has the, it's like she has the vertical coming out.

That's about like the church ladies and stuff like that.

But like being oily in church, there's specific language you can give when it's like being prophetic in the church space. And then there's a way the language can land to where they treat you like you Harry Potter.

So I want to see how, you know what I'm saying?

Like you can only go so far with that with the very churchy folks.

And the other thing is like, I agree with Blue.

It's like, y'all need to come on these shows and entrench us in the things about your personality that will make us love you so much to where we'll have grace when you say dumb stuff.

Stacey.

Don't start with stuff that some people may not believe in. I remember when I first started teaching in the classroom, my principal told all of us to say things that 80% of the world believes in. Like start with that, right? So like every child deserves food, right? Now the type, like most people will believe with that, agree with that, right?

The type of food will differ. So when you're introducing yourself, you start there with truth and then you introduce down the line, hey- I'm giving a Melinda ghost whisperer set.

And you know, I'm walking. And also you in this, you in two girdles.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just the whole, it's the homie gage. It's the homie gage, but I'm interested. And in closing, stop giving these girls reads that they're going to say for the reunion. Because I would wear her out if her husband ever cheats on her. If anything goes bad, be like, well, girl, why didn't you see it?

Right.

You ain't know?

I would wear her out. So, like, quit setting yourself up for the read. Yep.

Dustin Ross?

Yeah. I, too, am interested to see how the intersection of her.

Now, Blue, what is she? Is she clairvoyant or claircognizant?

No, she a prophet.

Claire Cappin.

She's not even on the same.

Okay. Well, whatever she is.

I'm interested in seeing the intersection of that with the church shit. Because them church, especially black church people, that's right up there with being gay. You know what I'm saying? Fucking with the occult or anything like that. They do not play that.

They don't.

So I'll be interested to see how that plays out. But I'm really trying not to, honestly, as I've been watching this season, and we've had limited exposure to Kourtney and her family, but I've been trying to ignore that whole church angle in addition to now the prophetess shit. and just get to know her in spite of it.

Because honestly, just being transparent tonight, if I focus on that, she's going to get.

On my nerves.

And I don't want to have no negative experience with her as a viewer yet.

She ain't done nothing.

So I feel like if I just divert my focus, you know what I'm saying, from all of that to just like how she engages with the other ladies as we go into these cast trips and shit, I'll get a better glimpse into, I think, the more likable parts of her personality, which I'm eager to encounter.

So, yeah.

You're so chivalrous.

I do want to get into Karen and Ray's scene next. This was a very hard scene to watch. It opens up with Karen admitting that she sleeps in separate rooms because she chooses to, that it happened a lot, you know, before she went to jail, but that since coming home is pretty much their new normal. Ray comes down the stairs she asks Ray if he is avoiding her and he says that look you're different and said that non sober Karen might have been more fun he thought that with her coming home from prison that he would tear his ass up those are his words not mine and Karen.

Said to his face the last thing she wanted to do was worry about fucking.

How old are they?

He said that.

How old are they?

Old enough.

So, Ray's in his 80s and Karen's in her 60s. Karen's 62.

Okay.

Ray still wants some ass, baby. But the main part that made me... Listen, it made me sad, but it was also very... I was happy to hear that we get a chance to get more out of Ray and Karen in this scene when... Ray said that he was almost going to call off the wedding because even then he was concerned that Karen liked drinking too much. Which I was like, that information I think told us a lot in terms of their dynamic. Karen did end the scene by saying she doesn't know what is their future for them.

Dustin, starting with you, what were your thoughts on that scene?

Because for me, I think what's best and what's obvious is the.

Fact that they're not going to, they're not.

Sleeping with each other, literally, figuratively, and these two people should just divorce and move on.

I think they too old to divorce and move on. I don't think they've been sleeping together for a very long time. Karen going and doing her bid, ain't got nothing to do with them not fucking. I don't believe they've been fucking for a while. I was disappointed in both of them in this scene. Both of them need to go outside and get a switch and be handled.

You know what I'm saying? After that scene. First of all, Ray, what a.

Wild thing to say to somebody that's in fucking treatment right now, working on their sobriety. You telling them you used to be more fun when you was getting fucked up. Then only to go back in the same conversation and say, but I almost didn't marry you because you like to drink so much.

Is it Uchiwale or is it one mic? Oh, nigga, you just talking.

And furthermore, it don't look right seeing an old ass man with big buck eyes smiling and getting excited about sex in an inappropriate time. That conversation style only works amongst other men in private rooms. When you with your friends and your homeboys and y'all have them conversations, you have them. But seeing you, seeing Ray be driven by a desire to get his old dick hard in that scene was off-putting to me. I also think that Karen needs to take some accountability in here.

Even if Ray.

Has to adjust to getting to know this new version of you, it's because your ass went to jail. And I love Karen. You know she's one of my favorites on that show. But she's got to take some accountability in the shit between.

Her and Ray.

If he did change, if he does need a minute to adjust to the new you, Karen, then you have to take into consideration, well, why is there a new me? Oh, because I went to jail for six fucking months. So maybe you sit in that a little bit and give his ass some time to adjust. Might be a little more time than you want to give them, but y'all all be patient. You know what I'm saying? That's how I feel. That's how I feel. I don't think they need to get a divorce. All that new me, new me.

This is the old version of both of y'all at this point. That's what it is. Y'all got kids that love and respect y'all. We know Karen's children, her son and her daughter love her and Ray to death. They, they, we saw when Karen came home from her, from jail, right?

We saw that.

She was received with people who had been holding her down, so to speak, while she was gone. You have a reverence for that. You know what I'm saying? And it shows up in the way that you engage moving forward. So I know we filming a TV show, and I think that some of Karen's choices are motivated by her wanting to make sure she provides entertainment value for the show and for the audience. But some of that shit I saw in that scene just didn't look right between both of them.

It just didn't.

Dominique?

Ray going to have to go beat his meat somewhere, honey. In his 80s.

I think he has been.

Let me finish.

I don't know about y'all, but I don't know if y'all ever hunt somebody who has been on a Viagra set. You're not about to be, you're not going to be on me like Mr.

Was on Sealy. You're not. And I don't know.

I think maybe amongst all of us, I'm the only person who has been incarcerated in And that scene.

Is she?

Who?

No, I'm saying... You said based on.

I'm making the assumption. I'm the only one who... I think I'm the only one who's been incarcerated.

Are we clarifying? Okay. Just want to make sure. Continue, Dominique. Okay.

And I say that to say and also worked, you know, for half.

Almost five years running an organization that was about supporting people stabilizing.

Um, also my mother.

Experienced like navigating alcoholism and went to treatment for like 30 days when I was 11 and I'll never forget. The realization I had maybe in my master's program, when I realized that no one told us how we were going to have to relearn each other. We were leaning on our titles. That was my mom. I was a child, you know, my dad, like my siblings, but the biggest tension came with, even with just 30 days, we all changed.

And so the traditional things that were there, we have to relearn ourselves.

And no one is saying that.

And I think that goes to what Dustin is saying in regards to, I think Karen is struggling with sharing who she is because she's figuring that out. And that doesn't negate Ray's tension of, yo, like, I don't know who you are. But also, respectfully, after my father passed away and my mother was dating, my mother was dating a guy who I knew liked who she was when she was drunk.

Mm-hmm.

Because of how he could control her and because of how she could move. And when I listened to Ray, I heard, yes, there's parts that concern me, but you're more pliable. The type of experiences I want come out of you. Because the Karen that I saw, I think people don't realize a lot of people who engage in substance abuse are often pretty boring in real life. Not only to maintain the program, but oftentimes people are using things to come out of their shell.

They're navigating other things. And so.

Ray said, and I'm paraphrasing, but essentially it landed like, I don't want to do life with nobody else. Karen was like, you know what, I don't know where this is going. And Ray was like, hey, hold on now, not too much. And I think that he's going to have to cleave to that. And you made six months. People, I don't care how cute you think it is, six months in the joint is six months in the joint needs.

And I think with Karen, she wants it to be entertaining But I don't think the Grand Dom likes.

This is the psychotherapist.

I think most of her trauma is her being exposed emotionally. I remember, wasn't there an episode where she went back to the family's compound or.

Something like that?

It was years ago.

I think the transparency of that scene, because some people are like, I hated her makeup.

She was really crying.

Mama was giving us She was giving us behind the curtain, and I don't think she ever wants to do that because the girls use it against each other, because it feels scary, and I think it activates her trauma. And so, yeah, I really hope, Rafe, support your sexual desires, black man.

Talk it out!

As a former sex educator, okay, I don't want to give you no coochie hat, but I'll give you a handjob. Handjobs are fab if we really want to get into the big age. You know, if you're not on a stimulant, I should be able to get it. Like, let's have a conversation about what you need, and then I can negotiate what I have capacity for. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, if y'all are locked in, that's a conversation.

But Ray ain't going nowhere. I think it'll be more Karen-leaving sex. And I don't think Karen should do anything that disrupts her life right now. She should have a year of consistency and stabilization before any major move like that happens. But also, Auntie, he coinsy. It looks like all the checks, cash, and everything, sister. These streets is nasty.

If you get one of these young pieces, you're going to have to go up there and get tested every week because these young boys.

Is filthy, Auntie.

Just.

Just lick his ear a little bit. Put on a little bird of flack and work his set.

He ain't even got to get out that chair.

She can handle her business right there in that Lazy Boy.

Or hire one of the girls. I don't know why people don't want to hire sex. This is what sex workers are for. And with the right Medicaid application, there are girls who can do that under Medicaid.

Karen needs to project manage this.

That's what she needs to do.

With love.

Yeah.

This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

Let's get back into the show. Blue, what are your thoughts on that?

And the one thing I want to add to, Blue, because Dominique made me remember this, and this part made me sad, is when Ray said, I didn't know because you're sober if you were still attracted to me.

I'm happy you said that, because that's where I'm going with this. Um... So here's the thing.

Clips can be deceiving because I felt a lot more enraged with Ray seeing the clip that was played over and over for weeks ahead of time than I was watching the actual scene.

And let me explain why. And I want to turn this back to the audience.

Sometimes things look disgusting from a distance and then we realize that.

We do it in our own way.

Can we all be honest?

Let's all be honest. We all prefer Mary J.

Blige's earlier work to after she got sober and healed. And everybody talks about how my life is one of the best unskipable, no skips R & B albums of all time.

Can we all agree?

I hope I want to be able to respect y'all. So Carl, okay. Everybody agrees.

Okay.

The thing that people don't want to say out loud is that, um, destructive behavior can be sexy and charming. Can we all be happy since we're going there? Let's really, there are people in this world. who create a persona through their addiction. They become sexy, and funny, and charming, and bigger than life, and they create amazing, amazing art.

Jean-Michel Basquiat, Casey and JoJo, since we on the Mary J.

Blige thing.

There are literal museums built around the greatness that unfortunately comes from pain and addiction and so watching him say that version of you was sexually affirming and assertive And made me feel wanted and seen and came for me so I never had to wonder if I was that nigga. And you sober is quiet and calm and meek and not affirming me and not making me feel wanted.

It's not as far-fetched as our first reaction would make us think. if we're being honest.

We all have a friend who's become sober and we happy for her, but she's probably not coming to the functions no more. And so even though, because he's 112, he didn't word it correctly, he's not saying something that we haven't all thought about someone who's gone through that journey, be it Mary J.

Blige or our homegirl. And I don't want.

Us to use semantics as a way to dehumanize this elderly black man who doesn't know about what culture and the way that we do, because then we'd have to throw away most of our families, yes?

So I'm not saying that what Ray said was right.

I'm saying when he kept on talking, I suddenly was reminded of our shared humanity by watching what he had to say.

I don't feel affirmed. And listen to what he said.

I almost didn't marry you, but I realized my love for you meant I was going to have to also choose your dysfunctions. And so I kept, for 20 plus years, I chose you and your dysfunction, recognizing I love you so much, even if you never change, I'm going to keep on choosing you. Now that you are healing, I'm worried that your healed self won't choose me back.

Well, yes.

But also, I agree with you 100%. That's some real shit, y'all. I mean, Ray's not perfect, but that's some real shit. And let me add to that, the realness of it, too. Let's be clear.

It's also very apparent... Right?

That, and listen, when I say this, I'm saying this as a maybe before people say I'm adding this to their relationship.

Everything you said, Blue, I agree with.

I also want to add there is a possibility that Ray could have fed the addiction.

Like my 600 pound life, that's what I was thinking about.

You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Because the thing is this, the thing is this.

I just watched Matthew Perry's documentary on Netflix, which by the way.

Guys, is worth a three episode watch.

It is a fascinating story of a boy who started drinking an entire liquor bottle at 14 years old and who died and came back to life, right?

And long story short, he died officially, not because of just his own demise, but because the assistant who he has known for 30 years injected.

Him to his last breath.

Right?

And the thing that I don't think Karen is saying because she's trying to protect the legacy of the Black Bill Gates, I think Karen wants to say, possibly, allegedly, you, and it's not to blame Bray, but I think in Karen's mind, you make me drink.

You don't mind me drinking. You encourage me to drink. I haven't had a.

Sip of alcohol in 12 years.

And I remember.

Dating this guy who was like, oh, you could drink around me. And I'm like, I don't drink anymore. And he was like, Are you going to be boring? So what Blue is saying is a real thing. It is something that people think not drinking equals boring and that not drinking equals you've changed. Not drinking equals you're putting a mirror to me in case I may have a problem too. So I do believe that, I will say this with all respect, I disagree with the fact that they should stay. I think for Karen's sobriety, I think Ray...

I think for Karen, allegedly, Ray is one of the causes of her drinking. And for her to get sober, she has to leave that house and that marriage.

Because you know what that means? That means his fear is not unfounded. The healed her might not choose him.

And it means he knows. And not only not unfounded, he knows.

Yeah, I think he suspects it.

And you know what I'm saying?

It might have been a set where I'm going to say this on the record, so when it comes back, we have to sit with it.

I also think that.

Especially for women who have spent their lives feeling like they need a man to survive. A lot of my homegirls who got locked up, the one gift it gave them was learning they could live without a man.

Yeah.

And not in regards like financially stuff, but I'm talking about the day to day to life. And so I'm just hopeful that they all are healthy. And I think that. Also, Karen is under supervision. So a lot of people don't realize, like, it's the release. And then I think it's three years of supervision. So I also think she's being extra careful just because every time they get in an argument, one of those girls on that show is like, girl, I call your officer.

You're sadly mistaken. Or even.

The same way that women will try to control a man that just got out. Y'all need to watch Love After Lockout. Them dudes will do it with women also.

Yeah.

So, like, I'm sitting more with what you said, Carlos, about the separation. It kind of scares me. But I just hope that she has people on her team in regards to her care team with her treatment and stuff that are really laying out how she disrupts her life but stabilizes her sobriety.

Agreed.

And if Ray was providing the alcohol, I'm glad it was Fireball, because Fireball is cheap.

Karen ain't drink nothing but Fireball.

Is that true, Dustin?

Yeah, she knows Fireball.

It was Fireball?

Remember?

She used to drink Fireball.

Think back to when she had got drunk down in Monique's basement at Monique's old house.

Oh, wow. You remember all of that? That's the best thing.

That's fireball. That was so shit.

That's an alcoholic strategy, because they drink Fireball because they think you don't smell it on their breath.

They think it smells like mint.

Like cinnamon gum. Yeah.

I was going to say, like, yes. Okay.

We humanized the fuck out of this. I love it.

No, this is good.

So we got two more topics left. I want to get into Wendy, Eddie, seeing that they have with their daughter Cameron.

Okay.

So Wendy said that Cameron has no idea of what's going on, that the only person who knows out of their children is the oldest one, Carter, because Carter Googled them and they were honest enough to tell him this is what's going on with them.

With that being said, Wendy is telling Eddie that, you know, Tia.

Is telling her that she and Rob, they don't have sex.

Eddie said he can't relate. Wendy gave him a look.

Wendy tells Eddie that people should stay together because they want to, not because they're propelled to. Eddie asked Wendy if she still loves him and she says yes and asked him if you still love me he says yes and suggested that they go and have a double date with Tia and Rob this scene was obviously.

You know what Eddie.

Went off script just say it Eddie went off script Eddie went off script and she said, excuse me? We didn't rehearse that.

It did give, it did give, listen, I love your set posts, but it is a known thing that I've said since day one, that they rehearse their scenes before they hit record. I did feel like this, in addition to the double date where Eddie, Eddie was so heavy handed in the double date where he was telling T and Rob, that Wendy knew nothing that was going on.

He's tried to relay it to, you know, one person in the marriage pays the mortgage. And if the house gets in foreclosure, the other spouse is sort of like, I did nothing wrong.

It's your job to pay the mortgage.

I felt like those scenes, to me, was setting up the sort of legality that's about to occur. I think, yeah, I think Eddie allegedly will take the fall for everything. And Double D seeing the conversation to me was obvious in that sense.

Do you know how much you.

Have to love somebody to agree? Like, here's the thing.

Eddie went off script and Wendy did the Pikachu face because he's like, I know we agreed that I'm going to set myself on fire so that you can stay warm. And however, can I get a look? Can you just touch the tip a little bit? Please, if I ask you in front of all these people. No, and look, I'm being so serious.

Hell. Let's keep it real.

I'll take the L for everybody, but can you.

Let's keep it a buck. Listen, a man takes a fair case for you, sister.

Lick the tip a little bit. That's all he wants.

Just touch it.

Eat his ass, niece. He's taking a Fed case for you, sister.

Listen, again, I think I might be the only one who has experience and know these things.

I have experience with the Feds.

Okay, this man is taking this case for you, niece. He's taking this case. He's setting up the evidence. They're going to bring this back in court. And all he wants to do is... What I love about what we're seeing on Real Housewives of Potomac is what I want to see from the black men on Love and Marriage Huntsville is they are being they're in the best way they can they're letting them know they're showing that they need validation from the women around them and they're craving it and they really make sacrifice and Eddie want to say like hey I'm about to go down for this But will you be there? And Wendy, I'm telling you right now, don't be that type of lady. Hold that man down, girl. Now, if something happened after he's done,

it's fine. But don't play on your time because you've got seven years from the time that they activate that charge for them. The indictments are different. They can get you with a conspiracy after the fact. You'll gag if Eddie flips on you, girl. I know a lot of people don't took a case and that girl get cute when he's in behind that Walmart thing and he sent a kite and you'll gag.

You are not prison fish. Never gave prison fish at all.

No shade.

And that daughter knows. I'm three years older than my sister.

It wasn't nothing that I knew that Katrina did know. If that boy knows, that girl is old enough to be in scenes and have conversations with Y'all are raising intelligent young Black children.

They're aware.

But Wendy, invest your time in fortifying your husband so he takes it to the finish line, niece, because they ain't going to do you like Martha did. They cut your hair off, niece. They take out your bundles. They don't care about your degrees, daughter. You're going to have a roommate, niece. It's a nasty set, so God bless you.

Dominique, this point, and I'm going to let you dust it, but this point, unfortunately, I do have. When the feds came up to my house looking for my ex, it was because.

What? I thought we were sharing.

Yeah, I thought we were sharing.

I'm sorry. Okay.

When they came to my house looking for him, it was the beach date in Coney Island and how kind he had been that made me say, hey, I don't know what's happening.

Oh, no, I don't know what's going on, right?

There's a certain level of stroking you have to do when you are in partnership with somebody who's supposed to go along with the program.

You being stern and having.

Him beg for you to touch him in the morning, cue Diana.

Ross, is not helping the plan.

And so my thing is, number one, that man loves you. Do you know how deep you have to love somebody to agree to go to lockup and have to use a mattress as a cooch for.

However many years? That's a whole lot of love. Amethy, yes.

I didn't want to say it because I'm not sure if it would trigger people. But for a man to agree to something like that, Eddie loves, the kind of love he has for Wendy, I think he actually loves her more than any of the husbands in the entire franchise, which is why the Green Eyed Bandits had a problem with her. Because she has like an actual husband. I think maybe the new girl's husband might be second in line, right?

And so for you to have a man that loves you this much, it's going to let you talk to him crazy. And all he wants is to feel like you care about him. I think between Ray and Eddie, we saw two very extreme opposite ends of what it looks like when black men are brave enough to say, hey, I actually need to be held too.

I would like to be little spoons. And it breaks my heart. In the Karen and Ray thing, they might have to separate ways until they go to therapy and figure out how not to be like my 600-pound life where the lady is going to the doctor to lose weight, but you're buying her 18 Big Macs on the way home, right?

Right, and chicken in the bed.

Right.

Them bitches always got a man, right? Always ready to be an enabler.

So you can love somebody and unintentionally enable them without being an abuser. I want to make sure that we don't use enabler and abuser interchangeably. They're not interchangeable. Enablers can be deeply loving, not realizing that they're causing you harm. I think that situation is sad. But with Eddie, you have a husband who just wants you to be there when he comes out. with his shoes and his wallet, and the baby's waiting for him. Like, it breaks my heart that Elizabeth Holmes has more support from her husband than Wendy's giving to Eddie. I don't want that. I don't want that for our good sis. So Wendy, if you watch this show, we know you do. Please be a little bit kinder to Eddie, especially if he's going

along with the plan. Especially if he's going along with the plan.

That's all I gotta say. Justice for Eddie, allegedly.

Yeah, we saw this coming. This wasn't no surprise to me. We need Whitney. Wendy has been breadcrumbing this the entire season. We knew this was coming all this time. We knew that she was throwing Eddie under the bus, so to speak. I've always been team Wendy and Eddie. I hope that they get the least amount of consequence from this situation.

The little girl definitely knows. Cameron is so funny and so cute. She stole my heart last season when Stacey was fixing her a plate at that field day or whatever. And she picked up that American flag plate and Cameron told.

Her, is that a Donald Trump plate? She's like, she like tore her face up.

I've loved that little girl for many seasons, but that just, you know what I mean?

And so, Hey, it is what it is, man. We are seeing this coming.

What I can say, Wendy looked good as hell this entire motherfucking episode. Wendy looks so pretty in that scene. If you're going to shoot a scene, you know, with the shits with your husband, you know, deeply embroiled in a legal battle at that time, and the question of the sustainability of your coupling is at hand, listen, that's how you better look when you shoot a scene like that.

Wendy looked the fuck good, and that's all I got, man. That's it.

You look good.

What did you guys think about the double date where Wendy was drilling, I'm.

Sorry, grilling... I got something for that.

Okay, I'll start with you then first.

So, Wendy.

is grilling Tia and Rob. They're on a double date, her and Eddie. Wendy asks if what they're going through now is the darkest moment for them. Tia said this is not the darkest moment. By the way, Tia said this in her confession, though. I want to make sure we all remind ourselves of that, that she did not say it to her face. Tia sent her confessionals that this is not the darkest moment her husband looking at dating apps. Wendy asked if there's been infidelity and Tia said, from.

What he told me, no.

Wendy said, well, okay, let me ask him.

Why are you lonely? Are you sad that she travels alone?

Tia tells Rob he doesn't have to answer that and says, They don't have to explain how they maneuver their family.

Listen, I will say this. I thank God.

Wendy grilled her because this is another week of Tia giving us absolutely nothing. I don't understand why she's a housewife. Bring back Mia Thornton. And yes, I'm going to say this. Y'all can read Mia Thornton all day long. Love her, hate her. Mia gave her... Sorry, Mia gave us Gordon Tease. Mia gave us Ink. Mia gave us Bob sleeping with her best friend and taking showers with Jacqueline Child.

Tia is giving me nothing. Tia needs to be on the unemployment line with a pink slipping hand. I don't see for Tia. Oh my God. Reality television.

is the only job in America, once again, where you can go to work and tell your boss, I'm not doing the job y'all signed me.

Up to do.

She doesn't even want her husband to answer questions based on what he did, okay? Wendy is talking to him. I thought Wendy was stellar. And the moment I knew Tia was not a great housewife, I would have said, well, bitch, let's talk about you.

Hello.

Okay, so you want to.

Ask me all these questions? Answer it, Rob. Because this is Rob's doing, not mine. But let's talk about you. Let's talk about the emails.

Like, Tia....

And even with the scene with her mother, Tia is... I crave for more scenes that Karen and Bray gave us.

This shit with Tia and Rob, I'm not invested. I don't give a fuck about it. I am over it. She is cooked and fried, okay? I am over it. Tia, get off my show.

The king of reality TV ethering you on a casual Monday.

She is in for a rough week.

My God. But y'all can feel differently.

Go ahead, Dustin Ross.

Yeah.

First of all, the darkest moment in their marriage was that first time she caught him slipping. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like, and I ain't talking about cheating on her with no woman. I'm talking about cheating on her in the bathroom with the enhancements and the spray.

I think that.

For the first moment, the darkest moment was that one morning when she got up a little earlier, you know what I'm saying? He probably was drunk or some shit and slept in and she saw it and was shocked. I think that might've been the darkest moment. But as far as what everything you said, you're right. There's no way in hell Wendy, who again, deeply embroiled in her situation, there's no way she would have been able to nail me to the wall like that. Now, Wendy says she was doing it in the name of their friendship because further to your point, Carlos, As far as Wendy is concerned, Tia isn't asking Rob any.

Rob, right?

Rob?

Rob. Tia, I don't know. No niggas names tonight. I'm sorry.

I don't know what's wrong with me. Tia isn't asking Rob any hard questions.

She's a.

I think when it comes to... This is Tia's second year being a housewife. She may be a little more guarded than she needs to be. And unfortunately, that is obtuse of the flow of this program, right?

So it just doesn't... work.

But I think that she is afraid of full transparency when it comes to the situation with her husband, Rob, and his.

Alleged infidelity. Right.

So she wants to be in control of the information and siphon it out as she deems appropriate.

And that's not the way that this works.

The reason that scene was so frustrating to you and me both was because we still, it's like we skipped over any sort of conversation between Tia and Rob where she's sitting in at her beauty vanity or in her walk-in closet with a triangle in her hand, cussing his ass out with that British accent, calling him all kind of blokes up his ass and every other thing she can think of where he is telling her like, like, or like, um, What's Simone's Cecil? Remember when Simone was going off on Cecil on American medicine about that sports investment.

He was like, so what'd you want?

I took the damn money.

The way that he was yelling. Like we, we need that interaction for this whole.

Even when Phaedra does remember Phaedra.

Go away from me with this.

Yeah.

And say, what did you do with Kenya and blah, blah, blah.

All of that. Like, like, We haven't confronted.

Me that that she gets away with this. She is your second season as a housewife.

No one knocked on your door. OK.

And went through the screen door and said and for your signature to sign the agreement. You signed on to do a show called The Real Housewives, a show that's been on for 20 years. Miss me with, I had no idea that what I was signing up for or, you know, this is my real life and I should be able to say what I want to say. Not on the show that NeNe Leakes built. Like, this is disrespectful to NeNe Leakes. This is disrespectful to Phaedra Parks.

This is disrespectful to Cynthia Bailey, Kandi Burris. This is disrespectful to Candice Dillard Bassett.

Bring back Candice, please. I miss her.

Now that's who needs to come back.

This is disrespectful to Mia Thornton. Don't do me, Dustin.

And this is disrespectful to Ashley and Michael Darby. This is also disrespectful to Juan Dixon and Robin.

Well, that's bad. You know it's bad when Juan's getting a shout-out.

Damn.

People, at the end of the day, regardless if y'all loved them or hated them, they never shied away from the tough conversations.

Half of these girls may not.

Robin, her last season, got fired because she did. But, yes.

Yeah, like, at the end of the day, I'm supposed to sit up here and be like, this is the fourth week where we have not seen you or your husband talk about something he did. But you want to tell, but you got more smoke for Giselle than your husband who's on a dating app disrespecting you. But you want me to be on your side based on Giselle Kobe Bryant not telling you about a DM she got when your man is up in everyone else's DMs, yellow pages, telegrams, and I'm supposed to sit up here and root for you?

Get out of here.

What about her daddy, though?

She did tell us that the reason she's a wet blanket is because her daddy had outside babies.

Then tell that to Rob when Dustin said, be at the vantage, he's giving me Bernadine Peters and waiting to exhale and say, for 14 years, she was with this white woman.

Give me something. You're right.

You're right. I have no pushback.

And the fact that your husband set up there with his glasses on and... Three strands of hair. Don't answer that. When she said don't answer that, that told me everything I need to know about her and her stature as a housewife. Get off the show, go back to Southern Bees, and go sell a home. Dominique Morgan, what are your thoughts?

I mean, you're the king and you just really lay it all out. I always come back to owning your story and how.

you.

Trip yourself up by like exactly what you said. Like if you knew that from the first season, listen, it's going to come out. You may not have wanted to hash it out with the girls, but we would have had our scenes. Listen, we don't have to go balls to the walls with this. we're going to have to dig into this somehow because there's, I don't understand why she's there. Otherwise I've watched some of her interviews and she always tries to give like Emma greed.

She tries to give like the interviews.

I watched two interviews, like seriously, like randomly one day before I realized she was a housewife. Like she was talking about her business ventures and all of these things. And then the, in the second interview, they brought up, they brought up Giselle. I was like, Oh, she's a housewife. I'm like, how don't I know her? And I also feel like.

Again, it is hard feeling stupid publicly.

It is. But you also, people don't discuss enough about privileges that allow you to pull stunts, specifically pretty privilege.

Juan was fine.

He was.

I'm not even going to hold you.

Juan was fine.

So what's the difference?

Her husband is not fine. Her husband was not fine. Her husband was not fine.

And also, people were invested in the story of Robin and Juan because it was this historic thing and there was these kids. You have not endeared us to you. And I understand that's scary. But if you're not going to give us the tea, you got to give us the heart. And you're not giving us either. Now, Wendy, I want her to stop putting herself in the positions for the girls to clear her in a nasty way.

Like I want her to, you remember when you used to mess up when you was younger and you knew your parents was like, I'm a whoop you. And, and, but maybe they forgot. And so like for the days after you was like quiet, you would come in, you put yourself in this, you, maybe everybody didn't experience that.

But that kind of thing where you just like, you like days go by and it's like, I'm keeping it cute.

I'm cleaning. I'm doing this.

I want her, this season is a maintaining season for her.

Give us the things.

But sister, give us your full on kind of messiness next season so you can say you're past it. So when the girls bring it up, you can be like, oh, this is put to bed. Because if you were to ask me about my husband in that way, I would ask you, what's your plan for.

Your husband being gone?

Yeah.

Like, sister, do you need me to order you a heating pad? Like, your bed is going to be cold. Like, what's your strategy?

Have you mapped out how far it is to drive to the penitentiary? What's your plan? Gas is $ 6 a gallon.

Like.

It would be filthy. But also, those girls in Potomac don't have butch queens as friends.

I was going to say, Wendy knows who to mess with, Dominique, because you're realizing Wendy is doing something brilliant but risky, to Dominique's point, where she knows there's a place you could go with me.

And I'm still going to go to the very edge and dare you to say it because if you say it, you're going to look like an asshole. Because look at the way she cleared all, Robin included. She's like, hey, I need y'all to know, Eddie's the one going to jail. I'm going to still be here watching my hoe.

It's almost like when you go to prison and you have to beat up somebody to show them that you're not pussy. And so I think what Wendy is doing is you think I'm going to be tiptoeing.

I refuse. It's up and it's stuck. Karen can get it.

I don't care if she's coming out of the place that my husband's going next. Giselle could get it after I give her advice about how to go to talk to Congress. Tia could get it because she's.

A wet blanket. Everybody could get it with Wendy.

And the one thing I think that makes me adore Wendy and heartbroken about the preview for next episode is the only person who is that vainglorious and audacious is Stacey. There's a certain audacity that Potomac requires or you will get bullied, unfortunately, right?

And so on that show, look at Ashley Darby.

Her husband was allegedly doing a lot of things, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, and she had audacity and it kind of kept her afloat for a while. So I actually think Wendy's plan of being so audacious you can't bully her is probably the only way she's gonna maintain respect because had she not, the Green Eye Bandits might have resurrected in a very different way. Robin, I love Robin still. Robin, I can't believe that we're four episodes in and I still love you.

I actually am looking forward to seeing more of Robin. When Ashley called Robin to invite her to the thing, she was like, this girl clearly wants to make a moment out of me, but I'm going to still come and see what happens.

I love the new Robin.

Ashley's trying to get us to fall in love with her and her Brady Bunch family, and they gave her a whole weird vignette.

I'm not... The full house thing, that was fucking weird. Sure.

But there are people like Wendy, Robin, even Gisele, being in front of Congress. Gisele, you know that people live in D.C. and we all know you can take a bus to the spot that she took. That whole thing about her talking to Congress is where the bus drops you off. I don't know why she was acting like she had a presidential moment. It's not that serious, baby.

It really isn't. But anyways, though, in a world full of people who are.

Playing in our faces, I kind of like that Wendy's walking up and punching the girls on site and saying, what up, ho?

I kind of like it. And also too, can we be honest?

I am praying that Wendy's acting as if she's not going away because she really isn't going away. I hope her lawyer, actually not I hope, her and her eight degrees between her and Eddie, I think her lawyer is telling her don't be ashamed, don't cower.

Because it's going to look like an admission of guilt. She's acting as if she's innocent. She's acting as if she's innocent.

She needs to because they'll pull that scene up in the damn courtroom.

Exactly. That's why she's being so audacious. She's pretending that she's innocent.

That's why they're being careful.

Okay.

Well, Liz, this was a fabulous show tonight, I must say.

I mean, shit.

Are we not fired like Tia? We're not fired like Tia.

This was a.

Listen, this was a really good episode. Talked about some very important topics and.

Wow, I love this one.

Okay.

All right, so Raindrops, let us know in the comments your thoughts. Leave us a comment.

Dustin, Blue, and my beautiful sis, Dominique, thank you for joining us again tonight.

Keep your phone on, baby, as always. Raindrops, I love y'all, and we'll see y'all next Monday.

Love you, family.

Peace out.

Love y'all.

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