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LOVE & SEX MAGIC?! | LAMH Recap with Claudia, Dustin & Blue

Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2026 · 1 h 07

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Reigndrops, Big Daddy Holt is in BIG trouble, and Huntsville is getting messier by the minute! Carlos King, Claudia Jordan, Dustin Ross, and Blue Telusma break down another explosive episode of Love & Marriage: Huntsville! Arion's suspicious move into Destiny's neighborhood raises eyebrows, while Martell's drastically different treatment of Destiny and Arionne has the panel questioning where his heart REALLY lies. Is Arionne fighting for her man, or is Destiny the one who truly has his respect? Meanwhile, Maurice's parenting style comes under fire when Monster prepares to leave home, and Kimmi reaches her breaking point! From sex magic and messy besties to parenting failures and bruised egos, the panel holds NOTHING back! Tune in now!
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Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

We have to get into Love and Marriage Huntsville. Baby.

I can't do Dustin for the show.

I can't.

I'm so sorry.

Dustin is sending me.

All right.

It's like on the nose, Claudia.

All right.

So we have to get into Arianne, Sylvia, and the scene with Nell.

Okay. Your beautiful wife, Chris.

So, They're sitting with Arianne and Sylvia as she's enjoying her food for the second time I've seen on this.

Sylvia as.

Your boss. A little advice for you, my love. And I can't wait to meet you. I haven't met her yet.

I can't wait to meet you. Don't eat on camera, honey. So do what the girls do. You nibble if you have to. But Sylvia, that food ain't going nowhere. And this is what all reality stars do. Claudia, you tell me if I'm wrong. They all wait until the crew take a break or change cameras or change batteries.

And they gobble down the food during that moment.

Okay.

And last but not least, they also ask for leftovers. Anywho.

Sylvia don't give a damn. She said this shit farmed the table and I'm finna eat. I'm at the table. Sylvia been eating.

You hear me? And I ain't mad at her. I ate that shit too because both meals she was eating looked good.

Mouth open and everything.

She said, I'm not going to let a little thing like TV cameras stop this.

This food is good. I ain't mad at Sylvia.

That was good. So Nell and Sylvia questions.

Arianne in terms of why she moved across the street.

Where Destiny lives.

Arianne said that she wanted to be in that neighborhood and Destiny just so happens to be there. They then questioned whether or not Arianne felt that Martel and Destiny had, you know, intimacy. And Arianne says that she did ask Martel and that Big Daddy Holt.

Said that, ew, no.

So starting with you, Claudia, aka Arianne Grande, what did you think about that?

Did you buy Arianne's.

Reasoning, excuse me, why she decided to move across the street from Destiny?

Okay, supposedly that area is like a sought after area, but like knowing that you know exactly where Destiny lives. You can move in that area, but maybe find the house that's not right across the street or right there. That's what makes it weird. Being that close is kind of crazy.

I don't buy it at all.

I think she doesn't trust her man because she knows how she got him. So that's why she's paranoid. She constantly shows how insecure she is. And that's what happens when you are a side chick and you graduate to the main chick.

I don't care if they put a ring on you and marry you.

You will always have in the back of your mind how you got him. And that's usually how you lose them. And so, no, she's full of shit. I thought that was, I think it made her look very, very weird and very stalker-esque.

I thought that was very, like, I'm like, what?

Like, she has no awareness of how weird she's coming off. If a bitch moved across the street from me, that has issues with me like that, I'm calling the police.

Like, this is weird. Like, why are you doing this?

If I was Destiny, I'd get a restraining order so she can't be within 100 meters of my.

House, mess up the whole thing. Y'all move now.

That was mean.

I didn't mean to say how. It slipped out.

Yo, Ariana, I need you to say what we talked about when I called you.

I can't.

Chris Fletcher, what are your thoughts on that particular scene?

First of all, when has Arianne ever gave a damn about going somewhere where she wants to be, but another woman is there? So I wasn't surprised she moved across the street from Destiny and into Destiny's neighborhood at all. That's according to the tracks of her behavior. I think that this scene proved to me that Arianne is literally one step away from the edge when it comes to crashing out in every scene she films. She's really, really easily triggered, which makes me wonder how she's able to be in a relationship with Martel because I know they constantly trigger each other, right? And so I wonder how sustainable that is. But if she even feels like the conversation is leaning into a territory that questions her behavior

or questions... her integrity in any way. She starts talking real fast and she raises her voice and then she catches herself because she's trying not to completely show her ass on this show. But she is one step away from that. And I don't know, it just, that signals to me that a person just needs some rest. I think Arianne needs to just rest. And I actually think that being on this show this season and being featured on this show and seeing some of the things that she's seeing about herself and being able to watch herself I think it would be, um, good for her. I think getting a lot of the discourse and backlash that she got, she defended herself against that instead of listening to the very valid critiques and the.

Very, um, uh, great advice that people were giving her.

She was defensive against that, but hopefully if she has an, any ounce of sense, and this woman is a mother, you know, the two children.

So I'm, I'm, I'm hoping that she has.

Um, mustard seed size of scent somewhere in her head. And I think that as she does, after watching herself back on tape and seeing her and Martel on camera playing in front of her, you know what I'm saying? I hope it inspires some growth and some reflection that materializes this changed behavior. Because right now she look a damn fool.

I wanted to add that I gave all the blame to Arion, but I got to give some of it to Martel because As the friend of Destiny's for all these 30 years, you, if anybody, knows exactly where Destiny lives.

I mean, yeah, where Destiny lives.

And as soon as your girl, or you moved her there, or whatever the conversation was, you should have been the one that's like, hold up, no.

That's too weird.

But I think he kind of low-key likes this a little bit. That's what narcissists usually like. They love women fighting over them and all this nonsense, gaslighting, telling one girl one thing, you know? He should have definitely stepped in and be like, no, let's move anywhere but right there because come on now.

I believe in sex magic. I think there's a little bit of sex magic involved in this too.

That sounds hot. What's that? You tell.

Sex magic. So this is a tip for all the girls. Manifest responsibly. There's something that said that during coitus, when you are at your climax and your wettest, whatever you manifest or tell yourself or your partner you want, the membrane between the real world and the world of what's possible is thin. And you can... It's the best time to manifest, basically. Manifest when you can.

Wait, wait, wait.

Just so I'm clear.

So right... Now you're taking notes in the shorts.

Right, so right now, if I do this... Yes.

And I do it.

And you are in the right... Yes, your body is blossoming.

Okay, so when I do this, what do I say?

Say what you want.

In terms of manifestation?

Yes.

Yes. Like, Martel, don't you want to move me across the street from Destin?

Wait, why are you sitting like that? You trying to ride something?

Yeah, what position is this? Is that the frogger position?

I'm manifesting the wetness, she said.

Oh, okay, you know what, Carlos.

We manifest and we don't judge.

We manifest and we don't judge. First of all, your leg went up real fast, friend. You are agile.

I'm very, listen, to be 47 years old, I'm pretty flexible.

No, you are. I'm confused.

Wait, we just going to just slide past manifesting wetness?

We're going to slide past what, Claudia?

That's what she was saying.

It just means lube.

No, no. It's nature's lube. But no, I really do believe that she is doing sex magic because what did she say? She said, after we had that fight, we fucked, right?

Yes, she did.

I do think poor Martel, even though he might be a narcissist, his brain is scrambled because every time something happens, he gets somewhat wet and he says yes to anything she asks for. And then when he dries back up and he hears sense- Now he got to walk it back. So I'm not shooting him no bail, but I do think that lady's doing sex magic. She damn near, in my opinion, she admitted it on the last episode. Also, she has shown that she's nuck a few buck and she's such a pick me. She will get him back even if he tries to leave. I think she wants Destiny to be across the street so that if she has to get her man back, she doesn't have to look for child care. She wants to be able to walk across the street, get him back by his ankle,

and then go feed the baby. I think it was a semantics, logistics issue.

Well, gas is high right now. Exactly.

She's like, I don't want to have to travel to bring him home.

It's actually economically sound. Maybe she's not as much of a bird as we thought.

Well, I mean, with all the birds in the ground, who's in the sky, Carlos? No more birds. I mean, you don't want cats in them. I'm just saying. Somebody got to be a bird. I did not.

I did not at all.

Let me say this.

Let me just say this. Mind you, mind you, mind you.

You just work here?

Here's the deal. The beauty of reality television is this. I follow what's real. That is his real... child's mom. We are really seeing whether it is a Monday through Sunday, Mondays a month. I don't know, child.

But I will say this. Congratulations to the Love and Marriage cast and audience. We are up more than 30% on the season. Thank you all for watching, TikToking, tweeting about it, leaving me mean messages in my DMs, calling me Carlucifer.

Really? Carlucifer?

Carlucifer has a ring to it, though. That's not like merch.

That should be the name of your Halloween party.

Carlucifer should have been your costume, Martel, with your titties out.

That should have been with the horse.

Martel's halfway there already.

Just put the little red horn on.

Lucifer, Martel, what's the difference?

Yeah, same difference.

Y'all are insane.

It sounds like we need a show about the HOA over in Destiny and Arianne's neighborhood.

Who else live over in the neighborhood?

Right.

A show about the HOA called HOES.

So I will say this. I will say this. I want to do a correction because I'm a journalist.

Hey, Claudia.

I want to do a correction that she. Arianne lives in the same town slash neighborhood.

Oh, it's not that close?

But I will say this. Stay tuned for the rest of the.

Season because to Dustin's point, something does come up this season where that zip code may need its.

Own reality show.

Oh, yes. See? I'm going to leave it.

She has binoculars in her house.

We're the best friends. Martel, who your best friend?

Who your best friend, Martel?

Wow. Do you believe she called that nigga Big Daddy Holt?

I mean, I do. He kind of fine.

On TV?

I mean, I.

Can't.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Martel has questionable character, but that man is fine. I'm not fitting to lie on that.

I can't. I cannot.

Big Daddy Holt.

When someone's character's like, I can't even look at them as good looking. He has the evil eyes.

He just looks evil and little and little shoulders and just tight. Everything's tight and mean. The way he switches up on people in conversation.

Gets all mean.

Claudia, you're Arianne. What are you doing, baby?

I'm about to take this wig off.

You're supposed to be a pick-me. You are the world's worst pick-me, Claudia Jordan.

I sure am.

Proud of you.

I will tell you, you are the world's worst pick-me.

Matter of fact, this outfit's already making me itch because I'm not.

Used to this.

The way you're talking about your man with that swoop. I am.

I don't know how pick-mes do it.

I just couldn't believe she said that. I couldn't believe she said that on tape. She's daddy hole and then saying we went home and fucked. It's like she thinks that there's some sort of, I guess, value or some sort of like one up.

She thinks she's one up in the audience.

Or Destiny, I guess, by informing them that her and Martel had sex.

They got a child. So we know y'all had sex and y'all are having sex.

Y'all have a child and you are sexually attracted to each other enough to cross the boundary of him being married. So it wasn't like this big reveal that we fuck. Okay, that's the least you should be doing is fucking. You ain't getting nothing else. Neither one of y'all are getting nothing else from the other person. You know what I'm saying?

They created a dope kid. The kid seems happy and well-adjusted when you see him. And that makes me happy because It's a lot of external forces over there.

So seeing the kids thrive is always refreshing. Right.

And he does seem to be a well-adjusted young little boy. But other than that, what and being on television.

Right.

That's a benefit because she can use that to garner. I don't know what is over there, but like, you know, she's on television. So she can use that as some sort of currency to help her. I want to help her.

She need help. So what would you like to offer her?

Help.

You know what I'm saying? All I hear is the Beatles. She needs somebody, not just anybody. She needs somebody.

She needs something.

Help. She needs help.

Me and my friends have conversations about what we think about women that are just digmatized, right?

Where their world is ruled by the D.

And listen, ain't nothing better than being in love with someone that you have a great relationship with, great communication.

And on top of that, the D is great. That's like the bonus.

You've never been dignified, Claudia?

No, because I'm not primitive and I'm not barbaric.

I'm not.

And it takes a lot more than a fine face, abs, and a good piece for me to be sprung. I'll never get sprung. I've seen some fine ass guys that got it going on. And I don't get turned on because I got to be turned on in my brain. It's never just going to be the coochie and not the brain, never. And I've been like that since I was young. And I've had some great D in my life, trust and believe. But as soon as they say something stupid, misspell Wednesday, or just be goofy, it dries up.

It's true. No, she's correct. She's correct. It's true.

I've had fine men where once I got turned on by the antics or their personality, I just can't get into it. So I've never hung around and been digmatized. I've had 40-year-old, 50-year-old friends. I'm like, how are you still that one-dimensional where all it takes is the one thing between his legs, but the rest of them is trash?

That's why I don't get that.

They got a blue scandal. They got the spirit of wisdom.

They got the spirit of wisdom.

The spirit of desperation.

This is bad business.

I know, right? I'm sorry. They got the old one. She got the.

2.0, you know what I'm saying right now, that doo-doo shit.

Post-therapy spirit.

You can tell, like, that's all she cares about.

Like, that's what makes her feel special, is he put his penis inside of her and busted off and shot the club up. That's all it takes for her. And then also, this is the most, she's being put on television, so she's getting claimed, finally.

I think that's what it is. Yeah, I think it's the being claimed part. I don't think she's ever been claimed before. And I think, Claudia, you did mention it in the live show. And I was like, no, that planted a seed in my mind.

Mm-hmm.

There's nothing worse than a pick me who's finally picked. They are insufferable. I think that's more important than the penis to be perfectly honest, right? Because Martel, he fine, but he getting old. We don't know how good his stroke game is, but I think the fact that she won the battle and she won against the type of woman who usually looks down on her. The type of women that Martel usually dates are the women who look down on him and her. So she's thinking, well, we both beat y'all.

Can I pose a question?

Uh-huh.

Okay.

Because, you know, I always like to, you know, try my best to balance.

Come on, Carl Lucifer. Bring it.

I want to balance the scales a bit.

So, because you guys brought up something that made me think about what happened season two.

Okay. To your point, right?

Let's say the argument is she finally got chosen in her eyes, right?

Okay.

Okay.

Do y'all think with that theory, when he called her a peasant on national television, do you think there is some justification that, yeah, but you chose this peasant? And in terms of her feeling like, y'all spent years thinking I was this person. He spent years calling me this person, but this is the person he chose to be with.

Do you guys think that could be?

No, no, no, no.

I would like to introduce Sharae Whitfield to the record here, okay?

There have been multiple opportunities.

If the choosing, so to speak, was going to be the moment where we deemed this legitimate and understood it to be meaningful to both of them, it would have taken place as soon as he exited his marriage. That's not what happened. Martel's been living his life dating other women. It's not just Sharae. Arianne herself has said multiple times that he has had sex with many other women while he was in his marriage, right?

So, no, absolutely not. She's chosen, thrice removed.

And if that's good enough for her, then bet whatever rocks your boat and finds your lost remote, you know what I'm saying?

Do it. But that don't.

Mean him allowing her to add to his value on this cast by filming episodes and allowing their relationship to be fodder and the topic of conversation and shit, him benefiting from her being on this cast with him and his story now being strengthened and more valuable as it relates to being a part of this show now, that doesn't equate to being chosen. That's Martel benefiting and looking around himself before y'all pick y'all's beautiful, glorious cameras up, looking around himself and saying, well, you know what?

We can do this this time. That's what this is.

Because if there was a choice that was going to be made that represented a meaningful connection and a valuation of some sort, right?

It would have been then. And it wasn't. So no, Carlos. Hell fuck no.

And I don't appreciate you asking me that shit.

Thank you, best friend.

This is Reality with the King.

And I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. Okay, so next we have Destiny and Martel.

So Destiny and Martel met up because last week, as we all know, Destiny squared up to Arianne and Martel tried his best to defuse it. Destiny says she is disappointed for going solo to a low level with someone who is on a very lower level. Martel said he's conflicted because he's hearing Destiny's side, but he also heard Arianne's side And he feels like they all, you know, all three of them should sit down and have a conversation.

Destiny wants an apology because Martel sent her a nasty text calling their friendship fake. Starting with you, Blue, what did you think about Destiny and Martel's scene? And do you think there's a world to where their friendship can survive this?

First of all, shout out to Destiny. If I was in L.A. right now and not traveling and had my makeup artist around, I would have been you for Halloween.

She looks so pretty in that scene. I'm going to interrupt you, sister. But Destiny looks so damn pretty in this scene.

She does.

She looks gorgeous.

That ginger hair.

Oh, my gosh.

And y'all know I love me a ginger moment, honey.

Yeah. Child.

I could not be Destiny unless I could get a full beat. So that's one reason I didn't do it. But I will say this about Destiny. That scene to me. is probably the closest Martel has come to a healthy, equally yoked relationship since his divorce. And she did more of seeming like a real partner in that scene than Arianne has done in all the swoops that she swooped in all these episodes that you've made us watch her act a fool in. Because I feel like I love the show and then she comes on and I have to go get my blood pressure pill, right? Destiny was holding him accountable. She was still telling him how much she cared about him. She was clear about her boundaries.

She made it clear what she would and would not accept. She let him know that he could go with God if he wants to play these games in her face. And you could literally see him having to rise to meet her. And when he would get defensive and she would hold his ground, he'd be like, damn, that's not going to work on me. I'm used to working on Arion.

I actually have to treat her like an equal. So Martel was like an out of shape football player who now has to run drills. for the first time in a couple of years. And I love seeing the dynamic because if I was Arion, that's what would make me scared of destiny, not all the other stuff about did they sleep with each other or not. The fact that he's a better man in her presence, and she even clocked it. She said, the version of you that you are with her is your worst self. And he said, well, well, well, I mean, I passed my test. I mean, I mean, I mean, I passed.

Sir, the world is full of.

What does that mean?

Great.

Okay. That doesn't mean anything. The world is full of men who have women who stroke their egos so they can go out and make them more money who are still miserable on the inside. You are not happy. And I will say this too. I think when Arianne watches these scenes, Carlos, I know you can't say nothing because you have to love all the girls, including Martel. But I feel like- Including who?

I'm sorry. I didn't hear that.

If you do, pick Misha.

No, you said including who?

Including Martel, including your man. Yes, the sex magic didn't work. I think when she watches those scenes, I think those are the scenes that hurt her more than the ones that we would think. I think the scenes when she sees how they argue, because when you watch the scene where he argues with her, he's talking down to someone, a peasant, down to someone who he thinks is being unreasonable.

When he talks to Destiny, he's sparring with an equal and seeing that she actually might have a point. And also, by the way, guys, if anybody disagrees with Destiny, then maybe you agree with science. Research has shown, Google it, when someone makes a mistake and they refuse to acknowledge it, they're almost guaranteed to repeat it. And therefore, a good therapist would tell you, you actually cannot move past him acknowledging the hurt that he caused. So what she did was actually psychologically sound. If you're willing to disrespect me without getting my side of the story, you have to acknowledge how objectively fucked up that is before we can move forward. That's just science. Look it up.

Also, he did not want to hug Arianne when she first saw him on the step.

Mm-mm. I fight with his girl for her. Sorry, with his bestie.

No, both their feet was hurting. They both had on sandals with the toes out and shit. Alabama concrete, their feet was hurting.

And I think Arianne had on some Daniel Green slippers. I don't know. That's a very black reference.

Those people who know what Daniel Green house shoes are. I believe she had a gold pair on, which actually was relatable to me, right?

Because I was like, damn, okay. So I don't know.

So this week, like I said, I just think that guidance you know what i'm saying there's a need for some some structure and some framework we need the um the what was what did marie say they had the plan was for monster what was it.

Called oh make monster better great again or something i got it i got it for you i got it for you because i run it down my nose hold on a second it was called the um.

Where's my notes Oh, widely successful monster plan.

There we go.

We can apply that to her. We need a wildly successful monster plan for Arianne.

She's a monster.

Okay.

We need a plan for her, man. We need a structure, hot meals, a bedtime. You know what I'm saying?

Scheduled face washing. You know what I'm saying?

Scheduled face washing?

Chores. You know what I'm saying? Just the fundamental. We need the basics.

The fundamental elements to be re-established and reinculcated into her daily life. Because I believe there's hope there, man. She going to nursing school, that's tough. You know what I'm saying? I just think she needs some help, man.

But how many years after then, Dustin, how many years does nursing school take?

I'll just hear that. You know, I don't know, but maybe she needs some help with that. She needs some help. I'm telling you, she needs some help.

She's on the 10-year plan. She's going to get her back. We're going to have to help her.

And shout out to Carlos because you helped her. She on this show. It's a huge audience. Not a telethon.

You were on the charity.

It's a huge audience.

You know what I'm saying?

We need a village.

The Carlos King School for Wayward Birds.

A village, man.

Yeah.

Because it's promised there, man.

Like a bird sanctuary.

Yeah.

She can turn this around, man.

I'm like a bird. I always fly away until Los calls me.

Okay, Claudia, what were your thoughts on.

Martel talks to women like he's a pimp. And whoever goes along with the program is who he's going to be with. And I think he's with her by default. That ain't who we really want to be with. But she's willing to go on TV and make an ass out of herself and look stupid and listen to him. And he tried to talk to Destiny like that a little bit. She checked him. She stopped him like, uh-huh, not so fast. Because he was trying to talk to.

Her a little crazy.

I was a little triggered when I was watching the scene how he talked to women.

He talked to women like.

How an abusive, verbally abusive man, I'm not going to put physical on him, like emotionally, mentally, like how they kind of gaslight you, tell you it's left when it's really right, tell you it's blue when it's really green, all these things. that's how he talks to women. Look at how he was talking with Destiny, looking at her for the most part, and how he was talking to Arion.

He was not even looking at her.

I always look how people's faces when they're talking to you.

When they're just like, whatever, go on with that shit.

That's the ultimate disrespect when you will not make eye contact.

You won't even look at them. You're just like, whatever. He's waving her off. He's showing you. It's so obvious. It's so obvious.

That's when you grab that chin. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

I do not miss those mentally abusive relationships. And I'd be lying if I said I ain't never been in one.

I wasn't one.

And I lasted a good four months. Because when I saw the way you started talking like that and just trying to run the scene, it won't last.

Long with me.

So I don't even know.

Which end of it was you on in your experience?

Okay.

Who was talking crazy? Okay. Was you doing it? No, no.

The dude was like kind of bossy and he was a little intimidating. I remember one time we were talking, right? About say we were talking about the subject A and I'm thinking we're done with this subject.

And I will go on to the next thing. He went, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why'd you just do that?

Oh, hell no.

Why'd you just do that?

You changed the subject and we weren't done with the other subject.

I said, okay, nigga, this ain't going to last.

And the thing about it is anybody that knows you, they would know that that is completely obtuse of any type of communication that would even work for you.

Why would he even try that? You know what I'm saying?

I have ADHD. Okay.

Severe.

Severe. Was tested.

Severe.

And I don't know a man of seals why I'm just telling you I have it.

I was tested.

Okay. Okay.

ADHD, for real. I feel like I have a slight, a bit of, I think I'm Tourette's adjacent, so I can't help it.

Sometimes the thoughts I.

Tourette's adjacent?

I'm a little Tourette-ish. I'm Tourette-ish.

I don't have it, but I'm Tourette-ish. And so I jump around. That's how my brain works. Like, I can't help it. That's why I stutter.

I stammer.

I'm like trying to get stuff out. But yeah, he tried to check me and like control. You start noticing people start to control every little thing about how you talk. They want to manage how you respond. Or tell you, I don't like when you use the word hate and you're like, well, I like the word hate. Well, I don't talk like that. Well, okay, motherfucker, then that's on you.

Oh.

Yeah, that's why we have a lot of little six-month relationships, me and Dustin. Because, you know, when they start popping off like that, and then you just replace.

Them with someone else.

Wait a minute.

First of all, Dustin's not even here. I'm with you, friend.

Is that your reason to, Dustin?

Hell yeah.

No.

Okay.

I wasn't speaking out of turn. We've already discussed this.

Dustin, the reason why Dustin is not in a relationship has nothing to do with how men talk to him.

Look, what Wendy say on Potomac when they asked her if she had sex. lawyers, yes.

Yes, I do.

Yes.

Yo, I don't know how Ariana does this. This is so annoying.

Yo, that swoop, my forehead is getting hot for you. I took off my glasses because I was getting hot looking at you in the swoop.

I tell you, I'm baking in this brocade.

These costumes is hot, y'all.

I'm so hot.

And you guys, I think today was my first day of menopause. Because while I was doing side dish, I was on camera, right? In the middle of being on camera, everything people started saying was getting annoying to me.

I was like, oh, my God, I'm hot. I can't breathe.

I started fanning myself. And they caught the moment it kicked in. So I've been hot all goddamn day. So this Arianne wig, yo, I really want to rip it off.

Take the top off, Claudia. You have a shirt underneath. Just take the top off.

Okay, I'm going to say this.

Claudia, you can take it off whenever you want to, but if you could take it off for real, we'll be getting to Potomac.

Oh, yeah, I'm going to get back to my light hair. But it's okay. We'll go get a Popsicle in a minute.

What's happening on the side?

Is it something?

My real hair is trying to come out.

Oh, because it looks like a battle. I was like, mm.

Listen, if she don't care how her hair look, then I don't either. You know what?

That's actually on the nose. It's on the nose.

Oh, Carlos, you know it's a mess.

Speaking of Martel and Arianne, Claudia, you intimated how when Martel went over her home, you felt like he didn't want to kiss her.

So in that scene, Claudia Jordan is.

Look how he's looking.

Damn, I wish y'all got the slippers in the pic. Y'all ain't got a picture of them gold Daniel Green slippers she had on? I should have told y'all before we started.

The swoop is actually combed. We have to give her credit. She combed the swoop this time.

And let me know if the people in the comments are agreeing with me that those was absolutely Daniel Green slippers. Because I know I'm not the only person who know about Daniel Green slippers.

I'm about to Google them right now.

Go ahead.

Daniel Green.

Let's see.

So let's see, Jamie, let's see if we can find the... But here's the deal, Claudia. Arianne felt that Martel recapping his lunch with Destiny, you know, she feels like he's not on her side.

And is wondering.

If they did not have anything going on, he gets annoyed and says he is not eight years old. He is 44 years old and he doesn't want her talking to him like that. Because Arianne did ask plainly to Martel if Destiny is in love with him.

Claudia, do you think Destiny is in love with Martel?

No, I don't.

But I think Arianne thinks that's the case. I think she thinks more, no, I think she thinks more about her man has feelings for Destiny more than Destiny being in love with her man.

And she always makes it Destiny's fault and never Martel's fault.

She's always like, yeah, but the way Destiny was there, the way she came up, you need to talk to your man.

Your man, your man, your man.

That's who you need to be worried about because that's where your problem is. And it's also your guilt because of the way you got your man. So she's always going to be cursed With the spirit of insecurity.

That's all that is? You got that candle, Blue?

We actually do. It's called Return to Sender. BlueCentricShop.com.

But the way he dismissed her feelings on that stoop.

Yeah.

The stoop and the swoop. That's what it was.

Come on, episode title. That's an episode title for real.

Stoop and the swoop. And he was like this the whole time. He was like, Mitch, you ain't going with that bush. I ain't trying to hit none of that shit. I just like you because you get good mouth hugs. Okay? That's it.

I was always complaining my wife didn't give me enough dome, and now you give me dome all the time. You give me that monster. And I'm a little sprung on that, but I really don't like you. I just like your sex game.

That's what it's giving.

So are you agreeing that it's the sex magic?

I don't know if it's magic, but I think he's wrong. Yeah, okay, we call it sex magic. No, I definitely think they have a good sexual chemistry. But that's all they have.

Women don't know what to call it, y'all. I'm telling you what it's called. When every time your man tries to make sense, all you got to do is Google guac guac 3000 and suddenly he's speaking in stupid and sending dumb texts to his bestie. It's giving sex magic. And also, too, I feel like the scene that we're watching, now, Carlos, I know you can't break the fourth wall, but sometimes, you know, the scenes are taped out of order. But based on what I'm seeing, I feel like the conversation with Destiny happened before The stoop and the swoop, yes?

Yes, it is.

Let me get out of the way.

I want my pan at this speed. You know what it felt like to me? It felt like he was stunned that Destiny made so much sense, but he couldn't back down entirely because he didn't want to look stupid because he backed the wrong horse or bird, whatever. And so he had to, you could see the moment where he was like, damn, she's making sense. Like his eyes switched, but he was still trying to fight because he didn't want to look stupid. I think some of his irritation is that you have me up here looking dumb in front of Destiny. I do think there was some irritation that he went there to back her up, realized that she was on bullshit, looked dumb in front of Destiny, and then had to talk to her afterwards. So I

think some of that smoke is he's realizing he backed the wrong horse. I'm going to be very curious what the state of their relationship is at the reunion and if they're honest about it. Because there is no part of me that thinks somebody as fragile as Arianne and Martel can watch these episodes, see how things actually played out, and not have an argument in between rehearsals for the next episodes. They're having arguments about this because they're both making each other look stupid.

I think they're going to break up at the reunion or by the reunion.

I think that we saw a different temperament from Martel in his conversation with Destiny versus his conversation with Arianne because.

He has more control over Arianne.

He can go over there with an attitude or with a behavior and language that communicates, we shutting this shit down. I don't want you arguing with her no more. So God damn it, it stops today. Whereas he approached a conversation with Destiny and he was hearing her out, listening to what she had to say.

It's different.

You know, it's different with two different women. You know, one might be, you know, your woman, you know, you go, you know, your woman, you know, you live with. Then the other one, you're the best friend. Not me, but you're the best friend. So, you know, it's a different temperament. But for real, when he went over to Arianne's house, he was in straight check mode.

You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck that. This shit didn't went too far.

Don't hug me. Don't kiss me. We finna motherfucking talk about this. And don't ask me nothing that's going to fucking irritate me. Don't ask me nothing we already talked about. I don't want to hear shit. That was his demeanor when they were sitting on that stoop. But when he went to sit at lunch with Destiny and he had his Casablanca set on, right?

I seen him in his shit. It was fly. He had on a fly ass Casablanca shirt. He did.

I don't like him.

The man is not ugly.

I'm sorry.

He's not ugly.

He had on a dope Casablanca shirt and Destiny looked gorgeous. So that actually was a beautiful scene itself.

Like a couple.

He was much more tepid and mild-mannered in his scene with Destiny because he know he can't cuss Destiny out. He can't yell and scream at Destiny. He knows that he's going to be met with a consequence. Whereas with Arion, he's the dominant person in the relationship. He running shit, paying the mortgage, buying the oven mitts so they can shoot the scene.

That's it.

He come over there and he runs the roost. I think that would explain the difference between the two.

You know what it seems like?

Like maybe before he decided to bring her on the show, like maybe they had talked things out, like how it was going to go. And she sounded like she had sense in the meetings between them and the pillow talk. Like, okay, and if this happens, we're going to say this. And then when she got on set, she diverted from the plan.

And now she's being very radish and birdish. And now she's a little bit embarrassing.

She went rogue, Claudia. She went rogue.

I agree.

I'm telling you, the season is going, this is a great season, right? But after her and Martel break up and they both on this show dating other people and also arguing about the co-parenting shit and how much they fucking hate each other and how much they feel like they wasted their time and all that shit, the years you don't get back, all that other shit, that's when we're going to see the Love and Marriage Huntsville version of the Red Wedding from fucking Game of Thrones for a season long. So we in 12 right now, right, Carlos?

Yes.

Okay, so what say you, EP and creator?

14th?

You think of 14, 15A? When do you think we're gonna reach that story? What's on the board? What's on the board?

And beef up the security because both of you are loose cannons.

Here's the deal. It's so interesting to see the dynamic because we've only heard about it, right? So I'll be honest with you.

I can't predict There's been other relationships that I could pretty much see.

How it was going to happen.

This one, me being honest, right? I can't call it.

Because Sonny and Moses still together.

Yeah, they are.

So you just never know.

You never know.

But these people are too, they lack emotional control and constraint, right? Emotional regulation. Would that be the proper way to say it, Bluth? They lack emotional regulation.

It's emotional regulation and impulse control.

And impulse control, right?

So watching this shit on TV, getting the audience response, going to the reunion stage, all of that shit. If one person asks the right question, Martel and Arianne will go to war on that reunion stage. You understand what I'm saying? And that question wouldn't come from you, host. Great host, by the way. But that wouldn't even come from you. That's going to come from one of their co-stars.

If somebody asks the right question, boom, the whole thing implodes. And they both have ego. They appear to based on their previous behavior I don't want to speak in the future because they may grow they could surprise us right but they appear to be the type of people whose ego and pride is this is is prioritized for themselves right that that is the most important thing for them and so You say the wrong shit, they gonna fight and argue with like cats and dogs. And that's when we gonna get the good season. The real, that's when we gonna get the Laurie season, Salt Baby.

Okay?

Arianne come up in that scene with a new man, took him out. What's the energy? Okay, to Martel and shit.

And Martel sitting behind, sitting at the table, talking through his teeth because he's so goddamn mad.

He can't believe Arianne finally left him. Ooh, that's gonna be a good season, Carlos.

What's the energy you're sending me?

Can you imagine how bad he'll be talking to her if she gets another guy and they're still on that show?

Depending on who the guy is.

Because the way he talks about her when they are in good terms.

And listen, again, you can tell a lot about a human being, how they feel about you.

It's by the way they talk to you and the words that they choose.

You know when you love someone, there's certain places you just will never go with them until you feel like it's over and you don't care and you don't give a damn. It's even a way in how someone like, I'd be looking at their eyes and their mouth, how they're talking. Like when someone talks to you and they care about you, they like, they're softer with you.

Even when they're mad, they're still, and it's.

The way like, like, like all that sucking of the teeth and the look in their eyes. You can tell, you can tell when someone is there, he is there with her already.

I'm telling you, man, they are not going to make it.

So we'll, we'll, we have a lot more episodes and I can't wait for y'all to see how it ends.

All right.

So, as we hop off Arianne and Martel, we got to get into Maurice and his son, Maurice Jr.

They call him Monster.

I'm going to start with you, Dustin, in this scene. Monster is packing because he is moving out with $ 200 in his pockets. He wants to get out of that house and go back to Detroit with his mama child.

Okay.

Maurice says that he would like to be a softer parent, but he can't because life is not soft and he wants to prepare him for life. So before we get into one of the most talked about scenes in this episode, Maurice and Kimmy, I first want to get your thoughts on the scene between Maurice and Monster because Dustin, in that scene, a lot of conversation was saying that it was evident to the audience, they're saying this, that Monster just wants to get the hell on, right? Like he wants to get out. He don't care if he sleeps anywhere.

He wants out of his father's home. Did you get that sense watching the scene?

I did.

And I'm the type of person, though, my thoughts didn't just stop there. I beg the question of why, right? Because Monster is a young man on the cusp of young adulthood, right? He's, what, one year removed from graduating from high school? Two years removed, right?

Maybe.

So he's a very young man. And my heart went out to him in that scene. First of all, shout out to him. Monster is actually an artist. He's a rapper. He's got music.

Y'all should listen to it and see if you like it. Stream it. Buy his music and support him.

If you got something to say about the $ 200 comment, buy his music online and stream his shit.

You know what I'm saying? See if you like it.

Second of all, my heart went out to that young man because he was crying out to be heard and crying out to have a conversation that was not correlated to a life lesson or something being taught. He just wanted to be heard and he wanted to be received in a way that equated to showing that you love a man and that he had value in his personhood and shit.

Just the whole, you could tell.

That they're not having any real conversations. They haven't been spending time together. And I just feel bad for Monster because even in that moment when he's fucking leaving the house and his dad knows he only has $ 200 in his pocket, right? You know he's going over to his sister's house. We don't know anything about the relationship dynamic of Maurice's other two daughters and him and I respect that.

So I don't even want to comment on that part because they're not a part of the show and that's not fair to talk about. But much like this comment that we just posted, he literally used the word escape.

Words mean things. Shout out to my girl Crystal. Words mean things.

And so I think that is indicative that he was ready, yes, to get out of the house. But the question is why? If Maurice and Kimmy are offering him a beautiful home to live in, they proclaim to be offering him support and resources and a plan, the master monster plan or whatever, what would make a person want to leave that beyond the normal young person shit, the normal ways you bump your head and fuck up as a young adult and make mistakes and learn from them? What is it that makes him want to leave? Why isn't he being hurt?

Especially when people who've been watching this show from day one, like me, right? Remember how hard Maurice fought to have Monster come down when he was in middle school and live in Huntsville. And we watched over all these years as Kimmy kept tapping him on his shoulder, asking him, hey, can you make this change? What do you think about doing things this way differently? Maybe Monster should try this.

And we watched Maurice reject those suggestions only to watch, well, I don't want to jump ahead, but only to watch him take all his anger from his conversation with Monster directly out on Kimmy in the next room and turn into a defensive, what appeared to be adolescent, have the posturing of an adolescent or a young adult that Monster just had that frustrated the fuck out of him. So this scene really frustrated me. My heart goes out to Monster, and I really hope that him and his father can build a bridge and gain some understanding and he can get the support he needs.

Claudia. That's the Maurice and Monsters thing that we'll get to him.

And Kelly afterwards.

Maurice seems like so fake when it comes to like his advice. And like, I feel like he's doing parenting for TV, like dad for TV.

It feels a little bit like, oh no. And so defensive. Like, he don't listen. He just seems so frustrating to talk to.

I don't know if it's like, it's almost like, you know, when you have actors that come on reality TV.

And they just cannot be authentic.

They are in their head too much about what they're giving in the scene and what they message.

It just feels a little inauthentic. I don't know.

I was watching like, ugh. And I remember when he came on our show one time, we interviewed him. And I was giving him some just advice on just like relationships. And he said, oh, are you a therapist? Like he's very passive aggressive like that with his like how he gets defensive. I don't know if you guys remember that, but he's like, he can't like, he ain't listening to what other people got to their input. He thinks he's already right and has all the answers to everything. And it is, yes, it's very performative. And that's probably what Mons is frustrated. I'm not saying Mons is perfect, but if you live under that circumstance all the time, that shit is obnoxious. Because probably when the cameras ain't on,

he's doing the same thing. Like saying what he thinks he's supposed to say. But it just feels so disconnected emotionally. It doesn't feel like I'm listening to what you're saying, I'm processing it, I'm giving you an answer. that is tailored to what you just said. It feels like I have the standard answers that I got on ChatGPT of what I was supposed to say as a father. And it just feels like inauthentic. And I think that's why he's frustrating everyone around him, including his wife.

My opinion.

Blue, your thoughts on the recent monster scene?

No, I agree 100% with Claudia and Dustin. It's so funny because last week in the workshop, we were doing a class on toxic parenting. And one of the very first earmarkers of someone even unintentionally, who was a toxic parent, is that they center themselves in things that are supposed to be about their kids. And I think one of Maurice's biggest problems is he was so busy trying to shape Monster into his image, he never taught Monster how to find out who he was for himself. And now Monster is buckling under the weight of trying to be forced to be something he's not, and not being allowed to even figure out who he is. And there is a certain level of intolerance that Maurice has where If Monster's not in line, he constantly centers himself, even when

they talk. Well, I did this and it worked for me. And, you know, sports worked for me and this worked for me. Like, but you're not Monster. And at a certain point as a parent, you can say what worked for you and try it on your child. But when it doesn't work, you need to pivot. And I think it's really interesting that Monster would rather leave with $ 200 like Huckleberry Finn.

to see what's out there in the world than be with his father and be cushy on a show. You would think most kids want to be on a reality TV show, right? Like, Carlos King, your shows are very popular. Most people, if they are in this ecosystem of TikTok, would want to have a moment to be on Carlos King and turn into this and turn into that. He's suffocating so bad, he can't see past just being free.

And the way that he talked to his son juxtaposed against the way that he talked to his partner, his wife, Even she said, you've de-incentivized me from speaking up. And what they call that is, it's called incentivized silence, guys. When you act in a way where somebody speaks up, you make them so exhausted, they choose to not speak at all because they're too tired to argue with you.

And I don't think he realizes the reason why he's flailing right now is he, and I hate to say this, I don't think Maurice is upset that Monster has not figured out what kind of man he wants to be. I think he's annoyed that his plan didn't work. I think he's more upset that his plan didn't work because he told everybody, I know what's best. Let's just do it my way. And respectfully, your way is an F.

You failed.

And I hate using that language, but the plan failed. The make a monster great again, whatever the plan is called. Is it called, Carlos?

Widely successful monster plan.

Even the title of that is so grandiose.

This is the thing, too. Claudia and Blue, you're 100% right. Claudia, dialing back to what you said about the previous interview that we had with him. We had a conversation with Maurice where we encouraged him to stop speaking in metaphors so much and have direct communication. This scene is a prime example of that type of, that approach to language and conversations like this being ineffective. Talking about sports, asking Kimmy them questions to try to lead her to a point.

Just say to her what it is that you want to express. Don't try to get her to arrive at that place of thought with a fucking sports analogy.

That's part of the problem. The monster situation. This is life. This is about real life. And he's like, this is me and you right now.

Asking his father to level set and just be 100% present in the conversation, right? I get frustrated watching Maurice because I believe that Maurice has sins.

I do.

I think that if Maurice would sit down and sit still long enough, I don't know if we need a switch or a paint stirrer or a ruler or something to pop that leg.

And make them sit, be still. You know what I'm saying?

If Maurice would just be still and sit down and just think for a second. Hey, these are the things that need to be addressed. This is the role I play in these situations. Here's a plan of corrective action. I'm going to be humble. And my ultimate goal is to have my son in a healthy place.

Kimmy feeling confident as his stepmom.

And her feeling like me and her are aligned on the same page when it comes to the well-being of all of our children, right? If he approaches it from that place, he'll get somewhere and make some progress. But this defiant, flippant, defensive act, these metaphors and riddles and shit that he's been speaking in are so frustrating to watch because I know he knows better. He can't help himself from being an ass in these situations.

And it's just really frustrating to watch.

Carlos, is that his personality for real for real?

Or is this the TV that's making him be like that?

Like, was he always like this?

Or like, did this become something because, you know, people get on TV, they want to be like the, you know.

Inspirational meme guy. Yeah.

Modest person in the room can still, can be very annoying if you know it all the time.

You know everything, right?

So, well, okay, well, you just tell me how I'm supposed to feel, right? So like, I'm like, was he always like this? Because it feels like he's playing to the audience.

Oh, what is this?

What is he doing?

Well, no, listen, he.

Did he change?

No, no, he hasn't. The theme of Maurice is this. Maurice... is extremely intelligent.

Like book smart.

But overthinking means under feeling though. He's overthinking means under feeling.

I will say he's always, Marie's low key, he is the smartest person in the room. Valedictorian of his law school. You know, like he's that guy, right? Like he's very smart. The thing that the audience has been seeing as of late is, I think it's what you guys are saying in the sense of, And I can't wait to talk to him about this at the reunion. I do believe that Maurice is one of those individuals where he is so smart, he may be too smart for his own good without reading the social.

Cues and the emotional cues that's in front of him.

Yes, Carlos.

So smart. And listen, I'll get into this at the reunion.

But what I will say, watching that scene with the monster, I got emotional because I was monster with my dad. In terms of like, because you guys touched on it in the sense of like, I had all these dreams for myself and my father just did not get it. He didn't understand it. He wasn't mean about it. It just wasn't clicking for him. And that's why, now look, monster, you better than me, child. I didn't leave Detroit with $ 200, child.

I left with $ 500. And the reason why- Back then it's like $ 1, 000 now.

Yeah, this is back in 2002.

The reason why I left the $ 500 only is because that was how much my portion of the rent was in New York for the next month.

So I got, you know, figured out the rest, child.

But when I watched that scene, I understood exactly how Monster felt. Like, I literally saw myself in Monster like, oh, I get what you're saying. And the thing with Maurice is this. Maurice is not a bad guy. He's not a bad father. Maurice is just one of those individuals where he is so smart that I don't think he may have listened wisely to someone like a Kimmy, for example, like Dustin said, if you a day one watcher for Huntsville, Kimmy has always said day one, I'm telling you, you need to do this.

And he will always say, I have my own plan. No thanks. I know what a man needs.

Meanwhile, Jalen thriving. Kimmy's son is thriving. Homeowner. Kimmy's son. You know what I'm saying? He's thriving. Homeowner.

College graduate doing his thing. And he's expressed some concerns with a lack of connection with Maurice. I remember he had expressed that he was closer to Marceau. And I know that was probably hard for Maurice to take to hear. But like it should also then the difficulty in hearing that and accepting it should trigger, you know, an alert in your head that maybe I'm maybe I need to do things differently. If this is the way that I'm being received by everybody around me. And the only pushback I have to the smart piece is. Yes, he is smart.

He's book smart. But he's not too smart to have an emotional reaction when he feels like his behavior is being called to the carpet, right? So that means that you know what you're doing when you're making these suggestions, when you're trying to throw things off with these metaphors and shit.

You know exactly what you're doing, my nigga. And stop it. That's all I'm saying.

I do want you to get into what you were about to say earlier when it comes to the scene with him and Kimmy.

He did leave Monster. He then talks to his wife.

Listen!

He's not dumb to the point where he did not miss the fact that.

I do think this.

I think in that moment where Maurice started tearing up, I think, obviously, he was smart enough to know I messed up. But I think, unfortunately for him. I don't think he was capable of admitting that to Kimmy because, this is how I feel, because I think it's hard for a husband or a man or whatever to admit to his wife who has been telling you for years, I'm telling you what you should be doing and he didn't want to get it, I told you so.

Because... What.

A silly reason then. What a silly reason are you talking about? Not you, I'm not.

You at all.

No, no, no, no, no. Meaning, I felt that he couldn't give me that because....

You don't want to hear it.

But we're talking about the well-being of your fucking kid.

Right?

So at what point does that usurp your ego in the moment or your pride or whatever? You don't want to be told they were right or you were wrong. Be right about my kid because I want my kid's shit to go right. I want his shit to be lined up right. Be right and I'll be wrong. At what point does it go beyond your personal feeling of being slighted because you know you made a mistake? And this person did tell you to do it differently. And it would have turned out better that way. But you love your son and you want the best for your son.

So fuck all them feelings. Let's get on. That's the master plan or action plan to pack political action.

What is the plan called?

The wildly successful.

And wildly coyote monsters balls.

Yes. So I think that they need a plan.

You know, that way, but he's, Maurice got to take his fucking feelings out of it and stop doing that dumb shit.

That's why Kimmy got pissed. Can I say something about the smart thing? Yeah, go ahead.

Just for language, what you guys are circling about really brilliantly, this gets me excited. So what you guys are saying is he's smart, he's not wise, guys. This is one of the biggest things that a lot of people have when they're trying to figure out the difference between social and emotional intelligence versus intellectual intelligence. Smart means I know the things. Wisdom means I am smart. open enough and curious enough to learn how to apply them so that they're successful. He is smart, he is not wise. And that is the issue. His wife is wiser than he is, but he's the smartest person in the room, so he can't figure out why him being smart is not enough.

Wisdom is application. When you're smart and you failed, you lack wisdom. And there's no amount of valedictorian that is going to fix that, right? And so as the smart man who lacks wisdom, the only thing that can fix that is curiosity and the humility to listen. And so if he was curious, right? And I wouldn't even call him intellectual. A smart person knows the thing. An intellectual person is curious about the thing. A wise person takes both and applies it. He's on the first ring. So respectfully, I'm not impressed. I don't know what rooms he's in.

He's not the smartest person in the rooms that I'm in because he's only on level one. Level two is curiosity. Number three is application. Baby, you got one out of three. You know math, right? Since you're so smart. One out of three is an F. So stop being so superstitious. and start getting curious so your intellect can grow, so your wisdom can actually be applied. Respectfully. It's hard.

I mean, I'm going by you guys saying he's smart because I didn't watch from the beginning, so I'm just going by what y'all saying.

Blue just got down. Blue just got the fuck down.

Yeah, the emotional intelligence counts too. That's part of the score too. It's not just the book smarts. So you can do well in the book smarts, I guess. But if you don't have emotional intelligence, then are you really smart?

Are you really smart? You're only smart at that point. And I don't think he's a bad guy.

I don't.

I was just thinking all three of the men, well, three of the four are very.

They think, I don't know if it's because they think just because I'm a man in the South, but what I say goes, I'm the smartest man.

I'm smarter than my wife. All three of them seem.

Like they don't really give their wives as much respect on the smartness or as their opinion. They think they, look at how Maurice is, how Martel is, how Marcel is. They come off as, I'm the man- And, you know, I'm the man, I know better than you, but all these women are really like kind of like holding their men down.

I don't know.

I just feel like.

These men get in their own way, like having a decent heart, but then not having any emotional intelligence. And then also add in the being on the spotlight on a TV show and the arrogance and refusing to look bad in a scene by giving it to your wife that, yeah, you were right. There's so much ego on the show that people cannot even admit what's right in front of all of us that you were wrong.

And you could just give your wife that and give her that. You don't want to give.

Her that win because you don't want to throw it back in your face or whatever. I think that's childish.

And I will say, I felt so bad for Kimmy because in that scene, and again, for the day ones, Kimmy has been applying this knowledge since we... And again, I want to say since the cameras met them, because they were together for five years before they joined the show. And when she said, it's not funny, but because I know Kimmy, it made me laugh because that's very Kimmy.

When Kimmy said, okay, well, keep me in the loop.

Yeah.

I love that so much. Okay, girl, whatever you say.

If you know Kimmy, baby, that was Kimmy's way of saying it. I told you so!

You're my husband?

And I'm not going to embarrass you on TV.

So when Kimmy said Kimmy Lou, that's why Maurice reacted instantly and they got into it. Like Dustin said, he made a sports analogy and Kimmy retorts, listen, very wisely. She's very wise. When she said, well, how did it work out for you? Not so well, right? And Maurice says, you're not supporting, mate, you're a supporting critic. and feels like she was gaslighting him.

She runs circles around him intellectually, emotionally. The age difference, or whatever it is, really shows when they talk.

Seven years, right?

It seems like 14. It's like dog years.

Yeah, it's dog years.

She seems like a grown-up, and he sounds like.

I feel like she has to constantly bite her tongue in that relationship.

Like, damn it. We have a nice house. He's probably decent in bed.

He has a good heart.

I don't want to date. I've seen what the dating scene's out here. Look at Arian's dumb ass. I don't want to be out here in these dating streets.

Claudia.

No, Claudia's killing it. I've dated a Maurice before. That's exactly why you stay there.

Claudia's killing it right now. I'm going to stay. I mean, I'd rather deal with a problem I know than one I don't. Let me go ahead.

But she's constantly probably like, this nigga. I bet you her group chats with her girls are like, can you believe this?

This motherfucker. This nigga.

This nigga. I know it.

I know she'd be Soon as we go to sleep, she'd probably be on her phone like.

I know it.

I know that My story in my life, Claudia, I feel like I've been catching a stray right now. Jesus Christ.

My last three relationships.

Yeah, yeah.

She's like, I like him, but he's.

He got a good heart and a decent dick. Can I make this work?

And then you hear other people complaining about what's out in these streets and.

Like, well, do I want to go in there? No, I don't, but damn it.

And they're always smart, by the way. These niggas is always so smart. But one plus one is 12. Make it make sense, homie.

Since Maurice loves school so much, we need to go back to Eastside High in New Jersey where Joe Clark was a principal.

We need to get Morgan Freeman's ass on the line.

Pull him in a baseball bat, put him right in that bathroom, make his ass sing Fair Eastside, okay?

And let Morgan Freeman handle it. Okay.

Not Morgan Freeman.

That's what he needs to be mad. Or not, yeah, that's what he needs to be mad.

But he get mad at her when she says, keep me in the loop. But then when she gives her opinion, he gets mad and has a temper tantrum.

It's ineffective.

It's ineffective. You got it, chief.

You got it, chief. Yeah.

And he's like, what you mean?

Oh, God.

Listen, these relationship shows made me very happy to have.

Hello, is anyone here? She's right.

I'm telling you, my life is, I have not stressed out over a man in 3.7 years.

Look at the skin.

Look how glowy I am.

I am beaming with happiness.

Calmness.

I got the spirit of calmness and when I want to, I can get the spirit of wetness.

You sure can, bitch.

No one is snoring in my house. No one's gaslighting me with narcissistic abuse.

Okay, the bang is attacking you now. The bang is actually attacking you.

The bang won't let me be great. Ladies, it ain't that bad to be single. I'm telling y'all. It is kind of fun.

You know how many boys text me that are fine and you know what my standards are? I'm like, when you get on my nerves, I'm going to follow up over here.

I'm non-committed.

I'm like an all-star running back right now and all the colleges want me.

I am non-committed. And this is fun.

And when I want to be a running match.

I run through that ass and I'll come on back to my peaceful home and you won't spend the night and do your dirty laundry at my house.

Blue, we finna be all at the wedding toasting and shit.

Claudia, you're talking like a bitch who's about to get married. Women who talk like this end up married within the year.

If I do, don't judge me.

If I do, don't judge me.

Just bring a gift.

Carlos is going to be a flower girl at your wedding talking about, well, I guess.

No, I'm going to get a wedding special like everybody else did.

Monday night marriage.

I would be honored.

Watch me be back in two weeks. So guys, he's different guys. I mean, I was just, it was for the show.

All right.

So rain drops, make sure next week, well, this Saturday, rather tune in to love and marriage Huntsville.

Yeah.

Saturday, 8 o'clock, on his own. This one is good too.

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