ROBYN’S REVENGE TOUR | RHOP Recap with Claudia, Dustin & Blue

Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well. Raindrops. We got Claudia as Arianne Curry, Dustin Ross as Chris Fletcher, Blue Toulouse as Wendy Kill Bill Osefo, and I am the point and the role of Martel Holt, our Halloween edition of Monday Night Live.

Now we're getting into the Real Housewives of Potomac.

Let's do it.

I think I'm going to take this wig off.

It hurts. Take it off.

Take it off, Claudia.

It hurts?

Yes, because I got all these clips to make this stupid ponytail be up like this. It's like a two-piece.

Well, now we know why she's testy on the show.

It's got this little piece. It's like a little comb.

Damn, that came off real fast.

Please, as we see her disrobe. Yes, she's back.

Take Martell's picture off, Claudia.

Oh, I am. That thing is coming down.

Hold on.

Let me put somebody else back there.

Hold on.

Let me see.

All right, Claude.

You give me the green eye band.

Put Stacey Abrams because people need to vote.

Yes, put Stacey Abrams. Yes.

The queen of Atlanta, Claudia.

Not Stacey Abrams. She's not running, you guys.

The queen of Atlanta. So what? She encouraged people to vote.

Wait, hold on.

We need the queen of Atlanta.

Stacey Abrams, the queen of Atlanta.

Martel look dumb in that damn hat is wow, wow, wow. Wait, somebody said Blue is giving Tia.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. I had to screen up. No, I don't want to see that. This is why I had the comments. Not Tia. Taking it off.

I do not want to see Tia.

No. I want to get into the moment Karen....

It's not funny. Okay, Carlos.

Karen, I'm laughing at my panelists, not this particular topic.

Okay.

So, Karen said that her and Ray have been going through issues before she even went to jail. So, Karen was getting ready to go to see her therapist, which, by the way, we love that that is something she's doing. So, shout out to Karen for doing that. But as she's getting ready, she does mention that her and Ray are having issues and she decided not to film her therapy session because she felt like she wanted to be able to not worry about the cameras around her as she was you know telling her truth and going deep with her therapist which by the way I want to say this y'all know I'm really big on following the reality Karen gets an exception I applaud her for not allowing cameras into her therapy session. Because based on what she

has gone through and based on what we know she, you know, struggled with, having cameras in a therapy session of that magnitude would have done more harm than good. So I actually applaud her for not allowing cameras in there. I respect it. And I'm so happy she did not allow us to see something to where I know all of us at the end of the day want Karen to get the best help she can get and for her to be well. But starting with you, Blue, are you surprised that Ray and Karen are having issues? And do you see a world where they can make it?

Because even at the Courtney's birthday dinner she had for her husband, Karen didn't bring Ray. And she made it very clear she did not want him to come. Because she wanted to enjoy herself.

I think everybody has a breaking point. And I think when you are someone who is really devoted, people forget that you are human and that you can have a breaking point. And I think she got so used to his grace. It never occurred to her that he could run out of it. Right. And I think the time away might have revealed to him things about their relationship.

that had she not gone to jail, sorry, prison. I don't know what the legal, what's the term? Is it jail, prison, clink, clink, lockup? I know there's a difference.

Vacation.

I ain't got no street cred. Did she go to jail or prison?

Vacation.

I think it was prison.

Okay, prison. The lockup. I think when you have a codependent relationship where you're, I have a friend who always says in certain relationships, especially old school relationships, one person is the flower, the other person is the gardener. I think he's used to being the gardener who's tended to her and she's kind of been like the grand dame.

When she went away, I think they both got an opportunity to actually come out of that haze. And I don't think they'd be in this position had she not been gone for so long. And I think there have been rumors for, can we be honest? There have been rumors for many seasons, y'all. As long as the show has been around, there's been rumors of Karen with a random man, a blonde man, a big back man, an African man. It's always a random African man. There's always some man that Karen has been seen at the hotel bar with, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, right? And I think years of that and her being there, not sex magic, I think they're doing something else, but her being there to say, baby, you know that trippin' X, Y, and Z? I think

their codependency trauma bond, and that's used correctly, got broken. And I'm actually happy for them because I do think that Ray is fighting for his dignity while Karen is fighting for her healing. And I will say this, I don't want to be cynical. I am the woman who's always advocating for therapy. To Carlos's point, I am happy that she didn't let us in the room for therapy. However, there's a small cynical part of me that feels part of the reason why is because she's experiencing an ego death that doesn't fit her narrative. I think if therapy was bringing up things That were more palatable. She might have been more open. I think Karen is really starting to realize just how self-serving she's been. She's starting to

realize how much pain she's hiding underneath her bravado. And I think the pain is so shocking to her system that as her ego is dying, she doesn't know how to spin it. She's just having to sit in it. So I hope that she's really sitting in it because I miss rooting for Karen. I really, really do. But I also recognize that Karen that I miss rooting for was probably on the Hot Mess Express. And this newer version of her, I'm rooting for it to be someone that we can champion.

Actually, before I get to you, Dustin and Claudia, I actually agree with you. I do think, listen, based on the video footage we saw of her arrest, where she told the police officers, I'm the Grand Dom and she named drop Andy Cohen, right? I do believe you're onto something in terms of an ego depth. I think, in my opinion, I think Karen, you know, played up to the title that was given to her.

And I.

Do believe that the reason why we're seeing a very subdued side of Karen so far this season is because of what you're saying, Blue, in terms of I think she's trying to figure out who am I outside of this Grand Dom character that I created for myself. Yeah. From Bravo. Because everybody has said that's not really who she is. Which is why they always made fun of her because they're sort of like, We know you played into this character, but now we think you actually believe it.

And I do think that therapy to your point, Blue, is ego death. And I actually hope that it is. Because I want Karen to get down to the root of what she was going through so that she can be her authentic self. And I'll end by saying this. I ran into her last year and. She was not the Karen that I saw on TV.

Not that it was a bad thing. She was very just subdued and quiet. And she kept to herself. It was a very, very different side. Claudia, we ran into her at the Truth Awards. Oh, yeah. She sat at our table. Karen was very.

Who.

Karen is now in real life. She's not the Grand Dame. And when I say the Grand Dame, meaning this big character, she's very different. And when I'm saying that, that's a compliment is what I'm trying to say. Claudia, what are your thoughts?

I think it's sad that I think her and Ray are very unhappy in their relationship. And I don't know why they think they need to... I hope it's not for the TV audience, but I do understand the pressures of needing to keep up appearances. But it's so obvious. She do her thing. And he's saying that he doesn't find her fun now that she's sober. Oh, my God.

That part, I was like, oh, man.

I couldn't believe he said that. I know.

I'm like, the thing that she struggled with the most... Your partner is against you getting better. That's like enemy in my house, sleeping with the enemy. And then she's like, eh, about him. I just feel like they need to just cut their losses and split up. And he can be, go get whoever he want to get with. And she can go openly be with who she wants to be with.

You're out of age. I hate when older people, and I'm damn near one of them, my damn self. feel like, oh, at this age, I'll just ride off into the sunset. No, you can still start over with someone else or just have no one. But to be on TV... saying that sober Karen is not as fun when that is a thing that's the basis of a lot of her problems, I was like, oh, that sucks. And you could tell she lost her respect for him, the way she talks about him. And it just feels like she don't really like him and he don't really like her.

You think that was a dig intentionally? Because sometimes people will say the most painful thing on purpose, not because they mean it, but because they want to hurt you back.

I mean, saying that I'm no fun. First of all, if I didn't have, if you don't have the backstory of the jail, prison, the most embarrassing thing that ever happened in your life, even without that backstory, still someone, any of your friends ever say, oh, I like drunk blue better or whatever. You'd be like, oh damn, my regular personality ain't cool. Like, He said that on TV with y'all over there. He wanted to hurt her. But you know what? She said stuff about him. You know what I'm saying? When you get to that point, y'all might as well just go y'all's separate way.

Absolutely.

Or just have two different bedrooms and maybe be up on the same roof, but be able to go date because I would not want that.

I think that's exactly what the issue is. Not wanting that. Let's zoom out and look at the bigger picture, right? Karen and Ray Huger been married for 30 goddamn years. You get six plus months of separation, deep thought, and worry-free porn viewing. Karen was in jail looking at porn and Ray was in that house beating his, and they both looking at it.

She came home and they both, sick of your ass.

You got six months uninterrupted to think about everything you've been sick of for the last 30 motherfucking years.

When you reunited and it feels so bad. Okay.

That's what happened. They had time to reflect and review. And I don't think either one of them had a favorable review. It was very one star on Yelp-ish. And I think that now that they're forced to cohabitate because they didn't plan for a divorce at this point, this is where we at with it. And the fact that Ray be laughing, I was watching that with one of my friends and my friend was like, every time he say something fucked up to her, he'd be smiling and laughing.

And I noticed that, like he does. But that's it.

I think they both was quiet on their own, like Michael McDonald.

And Patti LaBelle.

You know what I'm saying?

How did it end this way? They was both whacking it and watching it.

And then they walked and looked at each other naked that first time and was like, went on, went on.

I think that's what happened.

And does, you know, when you have time off from someone, When they go to work and then they come home, you'd be like, damn it, go back out.

Wait, is that Shamar Moore? What is going on, Claudia?

What the hell?

I had Anthony Joshua up there, but.

What is this show?

I'm blurry. My man, my man, my man. Claudia, I know.

Claudia is crazy.

You went from piece of land to bottom.

Yo, Claudia, your ADHD is loud today.

I hit menopause today, you guys.

Today.

Congratulations.

Congratulations, audience.

Now, if this period would just stop, I'd be telling this because I.

Don't need it. You're a woman now.

Right.

So, let's get into Giselle, Ashley, and Robin's scene.

Uh-oh, not Steve Abrams.

I can't.

QOA, baby. Queen of Atlanta.

What is this show, y'all? The Queen of Atlanta, Stacey Abrams, baby!

The one and only.

A long time ago, Carlos was talking about a conversation on love and hip-hop between.

Yandy and Rashida.

And we had a conversation on the show about who was the Queen of Atlanta online, and we asked the audience. People were saying things like Monica, Tiny, you know, all the Nene, you know, all the expected names.

And then Claudia asked, was reading the comments, is she gonna say that? Somebody said Stacey Abrams. was the queen of Atlanta blue so it's just been oh.

No trust me I'm they have made sure that I know no let me give her a better picture she deserves a better picture let.

Me yeah she does I mean.

She almost became vice president what's happening okay so Giselle Ashley and Robin met um Robin tells Giselle that Wendy is not happy about them talking about her situation on their podcast reasonably shady um And Robin said, look, I spoke to Wendy.

I get how she feels. Like, what if I was in her shoes? Giselle said, Robin, you will never be in Wendy's shoes because you are not a scammer. Ashley enters the scene. And out of nowhere, we learn that Giselle told Ashley that Robin ain't fooling with you. And Robin gagged and didn't deny it, but she also did not admit to it either. Dustin, starting with you. What were your thoughts about this Giselle, Ashton, Robin scene? Because it's sort of like what I'm picking up on. We're really going to get into the Giselle and Robin of it all this season.

Oh, we're going to get into the Robin versus fuck all y'all of it this season. What we saw is the OGs going to work. They all came to work ready to get down. Giselle was the only person that was caught off guard. Although Giselle had me laughing this entire fucking episode, this was one of her funniest episodes.

It also highlighted some really crappy behavior, you know what I'm saying, on her behalf. And this new version of Robin that has come back, and I believe Robin when she said after time away from the show, you look at this differently because you realize how much this blurs into the lines of real life or something to that effect.

And I believe she was sincere when she said that Robin has come back as a totally different person than she was seasons one through.

Did she leave after eight or nine, Carlos?

Well, the one thing I love about Robin, she admitted she got fired.

Yeah, she did.

Robin got fired right before season eight.

Not fired in Cap Locks. Robin got fired.

No, I'm just saying. I didn't mean it like that. Robin, did I mean like that? Don't chin check me again.

Yeah, but Robin showed up ready to play as a friend of this season. And this is the most I have ever enjoyed her on this show. I love this version of Robin. And I want to be clear, it's not rooted in the fact that she's quote unquote challenging Giselle or holding Giselle accountable. She's just moving completely different than she has ever moved on this show amongst this cast.

She's having meaningful conversations.

Not sitting up making noise and doing stupid ass dances and just meaningless stuff, right? Like she's literally clocked in, so to speak. And it's been very, very, very good to see.

So shout out to Robyn.

She's having a great season thus far. It almost makes me wonder why they didn't go ahead and make her a housewife, to be honest with you.

I can answer that.

To give Robyn back, here's the deal. And this is me being a producer.

Mm-hmm.

When you bring on an OG back to the fold is what I did with Sharae. When I came back season eight, I told them I want to bring Sharae with me. They said, okay, fine. And then she wasn't a friend that season. Because you want to test the OG to see, like, do they still have what it takes? And I will say this. I think Robin is doing great because... She has been gone for a few years, which is why I do believe that not all, 90% of housewives after a certain milestone should have an automatic break because you should miss it. And it's what Robin said. Like, being in this group, you lose sight of real life.

And I think Robin... has gained sight of real life and she sees things differently. And I don't think that a housewife is in Robin's future because I think based, again, on the godmother, Cynthia Bailey of Atlanta, it makes sense with Robin. And if I was Robin and the producers....

You know what?

Fuck the producers. If I was Robin, I would beg them and say, do not make me a housewife. The first time ever, I am liked by the audience. Let me ride this off into the sunset. I think Robin is doing a fabulous job. Claudia, what are your thoughts on Robin and Giselle's friendship?

And do you see....

Do you see that they may be at odds based on just Robin calling Giselle out? And like Dustin said, Giselle doesn't gag when people confront her or call her out, but she does when Robin does it, and I like it. Hell yeah.

It's about to be a wrap for them. First of all.

First of all, Claudia and Stacey.

Oh my God, Claudia. Jesus Christ.

The queen of Atlanta.

The motherfucking queen of Atlanta. You better know it.

Miss Juicy?

I didn't say that it was Stacey Abrams. They did, because Miss Juicy, baby, called me instead of Sarah Chalmers.

Go ahead, boo.

Do you want me to put Miss Juicy up there? Is that what you're saying?

Yes.

Okay, I will.

And you know she got selfies all over her page, so yes.

Listen, y'all know I've been liking Robin, so I love that she is her own woman, and I love that she's not being judged because people don't like, some people don't like Giselle. So they just instantly throw Robin in there. Like they just put them as two peas in the pod. She's showing y'all, okay, I got y'all two peas in the pod. I have my own brain.

Yes.

I have my own brain and she's showing it. She's not afraid of anyone. And I love this. That scene with Ashley and Giselle, they looked real petty and real childish, and Robin looked like the adult in the room. And I was very proud of her. I was like, oh, this was exciting. And it looked like they're going to be ganging up on her. It looked like this is just the beginning, the tip of the iceberg, and that it's going to be, I think she's going to give a good season. And I think at the end of this, people will probably be wanting, they'll probably want more of her in this. And I don't know if she should have taken it or not take it, whatever. But I love when she comes, every scene she's been in, she's kilted.

Every single scene.

She's taken, she's actually being low key, a little bit of a scene stealer and not even trying. Like it seems a little low key, effortless. She's effortlessly doing it.

Yeah.

She's not trying. She's like, she's reacting in real time. She's, the way she was shocked to hear that her good Judy, Giselle, was kind of playing, like, yo, Giselle got exposed as being messy and talking about her friend. And I think Rob needed to hear that. It needed to happen on camera.

This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. Blue?

You guys know how, I think we all have this in common. We say things to ourselves or in our group chat, like, There are people in this industry or people in this world who the only reason they are doing okay is because we keep our mouth shut. The only reason you pop is because I haven't told people who you really are. I think two things have happened.

And if you're watching.

There's many of you. I know y'all are watching because y'all are monitoring spirits. We all have people in the industry who are only living and eating because we haven't said shit, right? What people had a problem with Robin was valid is that she was complicit. And to Claudia's point, I think the years that she's been away, she's now recognizing how complicit she was. And I don't remember the exact, and I'll look it up later, there was an incident that happened where something was said on the show where Giselle threw Robin under the bus and then the receipts showed that it was actually Giselle. I can't remember what it was. Oh, yeah.

It was when the whole thing with Wendy and Eddie, Eddie cheating and.

Yes.

Yes. So here's the thing.

I got fired, as Carl said, with the cap locks on. I got fired with a capital F. I'm gone. And while I'm gone, you're using me as a scapegoat for stuff that's on camera that you said. And when I come back, you still think I'm going to be sitting up here having your back the way you didn't have mine? While you're gallivanting with Wendy because she was number... No, no, no, no, no.

You don't replace me with Ashley. You didn't make up with Wendy. You lied on me. Now, we're telling the truth right now. And I want to say this. Two things happened in this episode that if you had told me a year ago, I would not have believed. Robyn is my favorite so far this season, outside of Stacey, who you know I love, and Wendy, who was innocent.

And Gisele looked the fuck good. Off topic, Gisele, whoever your stylist is, double their salary and beg them not to leave you. This is the first time in the whole history of you being on these shows where I'm living for your fashions and your wigs at the same time. It's usually one or the other, okay? So anyways, back to Robyn. Robyn is doing an amazing job. I think she is a scene stealer. I also think she grew the fuck up. And I just looked at the calendar.

For you guys, two weeks from now is my one-year anniversary on the show where Carlos asked me to come on, and I thought it was a one-off. And then he kept on texting me, and I was like, oh, so this is what's been happening.

I had no idea.

I thought I was just coming on here for a quick kiki with the girls. It's been like, you know, 51 weeks now. But anyways, when I came on 50 weeks ago, not knowing I was getting into a relationship, Libras will do that to you. They keep asking me to dinner.

Ha!

One of the first things I said was how a certain reality star, if she just course corrected, you'd be stunned by how much the audience would have her back. We have been saying this for seasons now, for Potomac, for Atlanta. We constantly say, girl, you can fix this. And they always act like, no, there's nothing I can do, right?

Robin Dixon has now proven forevermore it is possible to be despised. Catch a breath. Pivot, come back better, and be welcome with open arms. So the rest of you hoes ain't got no excuse. Robin is showing you how it's done. 10s on 10s, I love it. Or 10s on 20s, like Claudia says.

10 on 20, yep, that's right.

Claudia, Miss Juicy.

Oh my God, Claudia, what the fuck?

Miss Juicy, baby. Why does that.

Picture look like you shrunk Stacey Abrams? What is that?

Okay.

I'm done. Not too much, Blue. Anyway, getting into. So Tia's mother is in town and... Come on.

Rob on that phone. The shots of her husband on the phone in that house.

We'll get to that. Listen, I feel like every week I'm the one that has to say the thing about Tia. Look, Tia, I'm going to give you a tens later when you read Giselle. So I'm going to just know that's coming. But I got to be myself and I got to be authentic to me like how I wish you were authentic on this show. So Tia's mom is in town.

And once again, Tia informs the audience that off-camera... She told her mother what was going on with her husband and the dating apps. And she said that her mom told her that, you know, pretty much she was on her husband's side and how she feels that her mother loves Rob more than her. And then we see them going to the house. We see Rob there. And once again, for the third week in a row, Tia is having off-camera conversations, but wants to tell us in her confession of what she should be getting paid to do on camera. Listen, I'm really trying to find the things to give Tia when it comes to her personal story. I promise you guys, I don't care what happens next week when Wendy does...

the great thing and ask the questions. I'm not here for Tia as a full-time housewife because my thing is this, you have to be more than just reading a girl. So you reading Giselle, which was funny. It was also something that I felt like, okay, girl, Giselle is the butt of the joke. That is an easy read because the audience will love you for it. So her reading Giselle to me was sort of like, I enjoyed it, but I'm not giving you 10s with that. I just can't give this woman 10s for the third week in a row. You told us you spoke to Rob off camera about it. Now we know you spoke to your mom off camera about it. So your mom being here, I don't care to see y'all home life.

It's B-roll at this point.

It's B-roll. It's not even a webisode. It's not a peacock vertical. It's not something that I care to see on Instagram.

Not a vertical.

It's not a vertical.

You know, Tia, but you know, she's giving nothing. But once again, all I see is the audience saying, well, give her time. I gave her time. Her check was on time. So y'all, not you three, the audience, y'all can give her her 10th. Y'all can say she's amazing. The way y'all act, she's the best thing since Nene Leakes, child.

She is the queen of Potomac, honey. Watch out, Miss Juicy. She may dominate Atlanta, honey. She may run for office, child. Because the way this audience praise her for doing the least, I'm not here for it. I'm not here for it. Where's Mama Joyce? Where's Mama D? Where is Miss Wanda? You know, where's Pastor Pollard? Like, where are these conversations that we got to have on camera? So thank God next week, I had to wait four weeks, four weeks for a full-time housewife to have a conversation about her husband's infidelity because Dr. Wendy clocked in and decided to do it for you. But hey- Give her y'all 10s, audience.

She's everything. She took down Gisele Bryant. Whoopty the fuck do. Starting with you, Claudia, what are your thoughts on that scene?

You know, I find it frustrating to see someone half-assed working when you got to sit down and work. When someone gets to leave a scene or not work or have a half day because they don't feel like it or not clock in. I have a lot of questions about that. What happened to his hair? Every week, follicles are just running from him. She's giving as much storyline as he's giving follicles every single week. And off camera, girl, make a journal, make a diary. Maybe she should do some stories or something. Give us something. At least, you know when you don't do it on camera, but maybe you have the home cam and you're like, all right, guys. Today, I just spoke to Rob, and he just told me that the dating app thing, it was not what I

thought it was.

Just give us something.

Give us something, girl. We want to like you. We like your British accent. We like kids. We used to like your husband until he took his hat off. And now, I'm just like, what is going on?

We get nothing.

You can't be like this every week, because if that's what you want, you can't be like this every week. the case, I'm sorry, give the, what do they get? Apples, peaches? What they get over there in that show?

Champlain flute.

Huh?

Champlain flute.

Well, don't give the flute, don't give it to Karen, but give that flute to, what's her name? To Robin.

I'm just saying.

Give it to someone who's clocking in. She's not clocking in and we This was from the first episode we heard about your man being on Ryo or Grindr or Tinder or whatever the hell app he's on. And we still haven't had a conversation with y'all? Tia, it's not hate, though. We like you. I like you. I think you could have a lot of potential with your accent, the way you say things. But you showed us last season you are quick to flip-flop and switch up on a bitch.

And now you are refusing all this tough-ass, tough talk. You are refusing to hold the one person accountable anymore. That owes you the most accountability and loyalty, your own husband. And I think it's sad to watch a sister do these scenes half-assed. I know you don't want to exploit it, but that's kind of what you signed up for, sister.

I hate to tell you, you signed up for this. You signed up for this. So come on, girl. Check him. Talk to him about it. Have a conversation. Because it's giving half-ass.

At least call him a crumpet on camera. You know what I'm saying? You motherfucking bloody crumpet. They don't say motherfucker. They say bloody.

Well, motherfucking.

You bloody crumpet.

Some good green shade, right?

Yeah, like, we need to hear that shit. And Carlos is right. Claudia's right. Boo's right.

We need, we just need the total.

Tia is circumventing the actual conversation or the actual dialogue. I don't, Claudia made a great point that it would be nice to see her husband take some accountability, but, but that I'm not even going that far into it. I would simply like to see them discuss it on camera. That would, that would make the story feel more cohesive.

You know what I'm saying? So we would have loved to have seen a conversation like that. I don't, yeah, it's really no excuse.

And Tia, your hair looked great.

Her hair.

Tia's hair look great. Yeah, Tia's hair look great.

Oh my God. I have some tea from the Brits. We have a British watcher, so one of my friends, I have a lot of friends from across the pond, and one of them pulled me aside and said, Blue, one of the things you guys are not understanding about Tia as a black British person is, it's not just her accent, it's the type of accent. So apparently we're in the street, and by the street I mean the cobblestone streets in the UK. Tia has an upper accent, like the kind of accent where your parents have to pay 60K a year for you to go to school.

Dope.

She has one of those accents. So it's not just any old, it's not like a chimney sweep from Mary Poppins' British accent. So someone whose parents are paying a whole salary for them to go to school, who used to work at Sotheby's, whose father had fancy cars and was living down the street from celebrities. Tia is a slave to optics, and I think what's happening is, in the same way that Claudia mentioned earlier, sometimes an actor makes a horrible reality star because they're stuck in being performative, or sometimes a smart person is so smart they forget to feel or just be real. I think Tia is so stuck on optics, it still bothers me when she said, that Wendy married up. Something about that comment.

I didn't like that either.

It's like gristle in my mouth. It was like she was telling on herself that the optics really, really matter to her. And I think no weapon formed against Stacey shall prosper.

At all.

Last season, your whole storyline was trying to spill the tea about Stacey and Tiamo, whatever his name is. Now her and Couric.

What's his name?

Tiamo?

Timo.

There we go. Timo. Her and Timo. Now they engaged and about to be ex-husband, ex-wife, boyfriend slash fiancés.

They happy.

You were throwing all this shade on them, and they told you to mind your business and are prospering. Meanwhile, your man's hairline looks like Anthony Hamilton's beard, and now you up here trying to give us scraps of leftovers. Tia, I'm going to say this. The reads are great. I'm sure you probably have been practicing them and it hit, it hit, right? The rehearsals were not wasted. And however, comma, I think you looked better last year because you were standing next to Angel. And the pretty one. What's the pretty one's name?

Keanu. Miss you, Keanu. I miss you, Keanu.

You were sitting next to Bad Bitch and the Sad Cloud. Now that the OGs are back and full cylinder, Karen's back, Robin's back, you've now gone from the middle of the pack to the bottom of the pack. And I think what happened is last season was such an off season that it made her ill-prepared for the first season. It's almost like she got kept back in kindergarten. Last season did not prepare her for Robin and Karen to come back.

And another thing, Tia. Damn.

And another thing, Tia. When you cuss somebody out, stand up next time. You don't have to use the sandwich method. This is not feedback in an exit interview or no shit, right? You don't have to say, even though you've given me so much support and all the other shit she said, nah, cuss her motherfucking ass out if that's the type of timing you on.

This is America.

She gone.

And over here. We cuss motherfuckers the fuck out. I would encourage you to get a Zeus subscription. I think Tia just needs a Zeus subscription.

Zeus is not American, Tia. Don't listen to him.

Zeus is not American. I think she should get Zeus.

I think she might try... Well, there's another one she could try now that's TV.

Oh, wow.

I think that those will... Give her some pointers. This is the help episode. I'm trying to get everybody some help.

She has to help me.

Like on the Jeffersons, Carlos, the help center.

This is the help center.

Not giving up anything. She's almost making me Miss Angel.

Don't do that, Claudia. Oh, not the graphics. Well played, Miss.

That's Eeyore. He was always sad.

Claudia, you are a mess. I cannot.

Well played, Claudia.

No, you ate that. I can't. I can't. Okay, so I'll say this. I'll say this. I'll say this. And we'll move on to Stacey.

Crack myself up. I don't care.

That's his girl coming to the ranch.

I made a vow I'm not going to talk about Angel because she ain't on the show no more. So, friend, that's the only reason why I didn't come right behind you.

I made a vow. Y'all see I don't be saying nothing. I be trying to be fair like.

She ain't on the show.

Did she DM you again or something?

I don't even know if she did the first time.

Don't let that go over your head.

Okay.

All right. Let me stop being mean.

Here's the deal.

Here's the deal. When it comes to Tia, what is that supposed to be?

I'm out of this world. I don't know.

She's where Angel's relevance is. Go ahead.

I can't. I'll just say this.

Sorry.

The thing with Tia that I would like to offer up since it's a help episode, listen, I just want, Tia reminds me of Meghan Markle. Oh. Who wants it, but doesn't want to appear like she does, right? Like we know Meghan Markle wants the fame and all those things and like you do, but I think because of her position in the world and being married to Prince Harry, She comes across inauthentic because she's giving us things she thinks we want to see. And it's like, sis, we just actually want to see you. We want to fall in love with you. We do want you to take us inside your home. Not the Airbnb you filmed that Netflix show in. Like, that was odd to me. Like, we're in somebody else's kitchen? Were you paying $ 100 an hour?

Get out of here. So I think the thing with Tia, Tia signed on the show for her business. And I think once the girls realize, courtesy of DMs, what her marriage was, she now wants to say, well, I'm only going to give you this. And I feel like unless you have earned it, you don't deserve any grace in terms of you signing on to do this show. This show is not just about business. It's about your real life.

And for the third week in a row, we have heard you admit to having off-camera conversations. And I'm telling you, in my eyes, that's a pink slip. But moving on to... Go ahead, Dustin.

No, no, go ahead. But let's move on because I'm way behind. Can I say real quick?

She would be one of the most interesting storylines if she would just go after this head on. This is something that people can relate to. Being in a relationship 27 years, people get bored. This is something that happens and is not spoken about. You don't have to keep up a perfect appearance like there was never any issues.

These type of things happen. I think if she's authentic and leaned into this, way more people would be able to relate to her. Really confronting this head on and it would make for good music and it would make it a better reality star. I think it would be even better for her relationship. Just handle it. Avoiding it is making you seem inauthentic and no one gets that.

Head on.

This is a Halloween telethon, guys.

This really is a Halloween telethon.

Head on is crazy. What did you guys think about Stacey and Timo's scene? Our girl Stacey is re-engaged.

Congratulations.

Thank you. Eat that wig. Stacy looks so damn good in this scene. And I will say this. I actually think her and Timo have chemistry based on, like, they get each other's languages. You can tell he is smitten by her. And I actually enjoy this scene. Yes. See? housewives, it made me want to root for what we know happens at the upcoming wedding. So I'm rooting for Stacey and Timo.

Me too.

I love seeing her beautiful self happy. She appears to really love Timo. I know that keeping her family together is very important to her. And I love Stacey, so love everything about this scene.

I'm glad she got her jewelry. I love it.

Just no more dogs in the restaurant now, Stacey. That's the only thing, you know? But that wasn't her idea, so we good.

Yeah. Blue?

You guys know I'm team Stacey, so that's nothing to be surprised about. I will say this, too. You know when you see that interracial couple and you see that quirky black girl and the weird white guy, but they make sense? They just, they're that odd couple that like, wow, every dented pot does have a lid. Like they are perfectly made for each other. It's easy to root for them.

They both are like Claudia Tourette's adjacent. I don't think Stacey would be able to like fake it if it wasn't real. You know what I mean? So I will say this. I think it's going to make the girls gag that there was a season where they all tried to gang up on her and everything they swore that they had, why they were calling her a liar. she's coming out being the truth. There's deep irony in this that y'all spent all this time calling Stacey a lie, and her relationship is the most honest one this season from what I'm seeing, even more so than Eddie and Wendy, right? Also, too, that new girl, the pasta.

Courtney.

Let's drop it. Courtney. That moment between Courtney and... Stacey, I don't like it because I'm rooting for Kourtney, but it's the same way I was rooting for Tia. I'm starting to wonder if Stacey's a litmus for which girls we're going to clap on who are going to disappoint us.

Thank you.

Whenever we clap for somebody and they come at Stacey funny, there's some weird shit that's going to piss us off coming down the pipeline. So be careful, Lil Miss. I'm rooting for you and your eight-foot husband, but not too fucking much on Stacey. Excuse my French.

Kourtney needs to argue with Ashley.

Yeah, pick Ashley.

Don't argue with Stacey.

She should have picked Ashley, not Stacey. Stacey got enough going on. It's enough people that hate her on this cast. Kourtney could have a clear pathway to have some conversations with Ashley Darby that a lot of people have been waiting for someone, anybody to have with her. And that lane was right open for Kourtney. I'm surprised it didn't come to her in a vision.

You know, to... Not because she's a prophet. I'm surprised he didn't say, go after Ashley. I wish Michael Garvey would say it to her. Send her a voicemail.

But yeah, she did this wrong role. But what I will say, I like the way she handled it at the table. She pushed enough. And then she was like, okay. With an unreadable.

No, I got to disagree with you. She was cringe.

No, no.

Claudia, let me know what you think. But I got to disagree with you and Blue. And listen, I love Stacey as well. I did not think that Kourtney started it. I love Stacey. I felt that Stacey started it.

How?

Because, because.

So what, though? No, no, but hear me out.

Hear me out.

When.

Hear me out. When... When Stacey was talking about, you know, she got re-proposed to, they're engaged. Uh-huh. Kourtney said, like, okay, girl, like, who's gonna be your wedding planner? I felt that Stacey was too harsh on Kourtney out of nowhere, where she's like... I mean, somebody that I think is credible. And it was sort of like, I felt that Kourtney was being cute.

No, why is my moment about you?

Don't be being cute with me. You don't know me like that, huh? We grown.

I agree with you, Carlos. I felt the same way. I thought that was like, she wasn't being mean. She's had this event. None of these people brought their man. Where your man is at, in the words of Charles Oakley. Why am I the only dude here?

Right?

So she was, they were her dude. And I just felt like Stacey's, I like Stacey. Let me be very clear. I think she's very cute, very beautiful. And an Aries, very quirky. I get like, we sometimes have a weird sense of humor. But I felt like she could have kind of gave her something cute. She's too smart and charming to make that be the response. I don't think Kourtney was trying to be a bitch in that moment.

I thought she was like, okay, girl. It's like if someone's saying they need a host, we would be like, okay, so who's hosting?

But we wouldn't keep saying it for like five more beats.

Well, I only heard her say it once or twice. And I just thought that she wasn't being a jerk. I don't think she's being a jerk. I thought she was just being like, she's a new girl in the group. And she's just like, you know, trying to find her little place. You know, Stacey seems like a girl you could be cutesy like that with. So I think she was shocked. I thought the same thing.

I don't know why.

Somebody capable? I was like, that was me.

I don't know why. And here's further to my point, right? Like, cause I agree. Even if she, I don't think that Kourtney's intentions were bad.

You know what I'm saying?

I think she was taking a dig like that, but it's very basic.

Wait, wait, wait, wait. You got to spell it out for me, brother. What dig did Stacey... I'm sorry. What dig did Kourtney make to Stacey?

She don't know Stacey well enough to ask her nothing about her motherfucking plans.

Stacey called her on the phone and.

To get to know her. To get to know her. To get to know her.

It was an introductory conversation. that probably didn't last longer than whatever time. And it wasn't honored by Courtney because she tapped in like, so who's going to be your wife? She knew exactly what she was doing at that table. Here's the thing though, right?

Here's the thing.

I think it was a playful jab that could have been received differently.

It could have been kept up, right? But she don't know Stacey like that.

And y'all have to remember that Stacey had about four or five other women at that table.

That can't stand her and.

Are being beyond rule to her.

So she's already got, I.

Think Stacey already.

Has her filter up for the least thing that a new person that don't know you, anything you do to me that feels sideways, I'm going to respond and react to it because we're strangers.

You don't know me like that.

Just like Tia last season. I'm so sorry, but pattern recognition says... Stacey, last season, every single new girl, oh, we heard your breath stink. Oh, we heard your relationship is fake. Oh, look at this. Stacey has been on, because I know Dustin's a historian and so am I, okay? You and Claudia are journalists, we're historians, right?

Historically speaking, every.

New girl thinks that Stacey is their sacrificial lamb to get on with the other girls. So if Stacey ain't got it no more, I don't fucking blame her. Sorry, I don't blame her.

Because the new girls want to be cute with Stacey.

They love to be cute. Be cute with Ashley.

Be cute with Go Ahead.

Be cute with somebody else.

Okay, if I'm a wedding planner and you call me about your wedding and then you announce it that you're getting married at my... Hold on, let me finish. At my man's birthday party, I think it is totally within reason to playfully... I don't think she was putting on the spot like, who are you really hiring?

She was being playful.

Like, okay, who's gonna be... I do not think that was her throwing a jab. I do not think that. And I think that.

I don't think it was a jab either.

Maybe jab was the wrong word. Maybe I'm being playful, being too playful. I think she was serious.

I was Claudia.

I think she really was like, bitch, I did Cynthia Denise Bailey's wedding. It looked good. Dustin and Claudia were there. It looked amazing.

It was good. No, it just hit me. No, we are not about to glaze over this. We're not about to glaze over this.

Here's the thing.

Here's what hit me. Here's what hit me. And here's how I know she was being funny. Because if Stacey called her and they talked on the phone and talked about her being a wedding planner or whatever, and she realized at that table when Stacey announced her engagement, Courtney realized, oh, okay, well, damn.

That means that she didn't mention to me on the phone that she was engaged when I was telling her that I'm a wedding planner.

Oh, so you're not going to pick me?

Well, let me bring it up now at the table then since you want to be funny and not mention it to me on the phone type shit. Let me bring it up now so she has to answer in front of everybody here, but I'm going to do it nice nasty. Remember, we talked about the church nice nasty shit.

You know what I'm saying? It's very church. That's very church.

It's a different kind of nice nasty.

No, she called to get to know.

Her about the wedding.

She didn't call her about the wedding.

No, she called her to get to know her.

She didn't say nothing about the wedding.

No, she didn't call about the wedding. No, she did not call about the wedding.

She said, I called to get to know you, ho, and you mentioned your job.

Y'all are too mean.

Y'all are mean.

Be nice. Courtney's cute.

I like her.

All right.

First of all, it's the first time it's been me and Dustin versus... We've had every other combination, but.

This is fun.

High five, friend.

I'm with the boss.

I'm with the.

Good. I'm happy y'all made up for this.

I'm with the... You made what? The beauty queen journalist.

Thank you.

Okay.

Talk about betrayal. Right. Talk about Judas. Wow. Talk about black style.

Wow.

Talk about reach.

Well, picking up beauty queen.

Carlos, ignore them and their negativity.

You don't know.

An angel being mercurial.

By the way, Courtney, your best friend. Moving on. Do we need to put.

A DM out there? No.

No.

Me and Dustin enjoy aesthetically... So, moving on, I want to get into.

But no one else's man was there, and I thought that was very telling.

I got to say, I got to say, I got to say, I know we're a little bit over, but I got to say this really fast. I'm... And I'll get dragged for this, and trust me, throw it in the box of the dragation of Carlos King. I gotta admit, I do miss the days when the husbands were around.

Yeah, it's a dynamic, for sure.

Yeah, it's just, it brings something different, and I wanted to see Timo, Ray, Juan Dixon, you know what I'm saying? Like, I wanted to see the Eddie, which, by the way, I was surprised that Eddie wasn't there either.

I wasn't.

No, he's the sacrificial lamb this season.

I don't think we're going to see a lot of Eddie this season.

Yeah, which makes me sad.

Okay.

But Candace, it's Candace though. Can we talk about the, I think Candace and Chris was when everybody started pulling their husbands away. Hmm. When I thought about it, because there was a, when Chris was around, I remember thinking, oh, they're all cool with the white boy. Like it was Chris and the other old man, Ashley Darby's, what's his, Mr. Burns, what's his name? Michael sure so it was Chris and Michael and whoever else was in the whatever it was a cute little husband thing happening when that weird thing happened with Chris and Giselle they were almost like oh everybody hide your husbands hide your whatevers it got very cautious after the Chris and Giselle thing it got very weird after that and there was a long time where

it was just Eddie for a long time after Chris and Candace so I do think when people realize how far it can go against the husbands everybody got really cautious after that I was just thinking about that the other day.

I was like, damn, where are the fellas? And it's a man's birthday party. And in the invitation, it said to bring them. And they all was like... I will say, Wendy looked good as hell in that white dress.

Yes, she looked good the whole fucking episode. That green confessional.

That purple, that part to meet up with Giselle.

She was giving looks.

Giselle looked amazing.

All the women's glam.

This season has been exceptional.

And Ashley's been leaning into that black girl aesthetic and it looks good on her.

You notice that in them confessionals?

Yeah.

She's been leaning into the black girl aesthetic.

She had a couple cute outfits too in her confessionals.

So I do want to get into this before I continue the party because this is my mistake. I forgot to mention the fact that Wendy and Giselle did sit down. How did y'all feel? I'll start with you, Blue. How did y'all feel? Thank you, Chris. Sorry about that. How did y'all feel when... Wendy told Giselle, you calling me a scammer is culturally inappropriate because a scammer is what is used against Nigerians.

Yeah.

Because people believe that's what we do. Which I didn't think about that. And Giselle received it and apologized for it. Blue, is that something that you are familiar with in terms of, The moment you heard Gisele call Wendy a scammer, did you think about the global impact that it had?

Yeah, immediately.

So you guys know I'm Pan-African, right? So I don't do diaspora wars. Niggas, wherever they are, that's my family. Yes? And though, however, comma, in the 1900s, the two groups of people who got made fun of the most on the playground, and this was an East Coast thing, so I don't know if it was only regional. You guys can let me know from where you're from. But in Boston, New York, Connecticut, all the places that I was traversing, the two groups of kids that got made fun of the most were the African booty scratchers and the Haitians.

And I remember growing up, and a lot of my friends have talked about this, how much pain we had around being Haitian or African because we were constantly being made fun of. We were being called less than, go back to your country. Xenophobia was very popular to those two groups growing up, right? And even now, we haven't really grown out of it because the algorithm has monetized diaspora wars. And so when I was doing coverage of Love Island, they were like, oh, Blue's doing voodoo. I immediately knew it was because I'm half Haitian. I immediately knew.

Yeah.

And so when Wendy heard the scammer thing, the minute Giselle said scammer, I said, ooh, calling a Nigerian person a scammer in 2026? That's like using the R word. Like, ooh, we don't do that, right? And I will give Giselle credit where I do not think Giselle was thinking of scammer and the implications. And the second Wendy brought it up, there was no defense. There was no defense. And so I want to say, Giselle, and to any of my other friends who are black but just in different fonts, if someone who is the same race as you but a different culture from you, because race versus ethnicity is whooping y'all asses. Black is not just an American thing.

I'm black. There's no part of me that's not black, even though my family's from other countries. When you meet black people from other countries or you meet black people from America and they tell you, hey, I'm from the South, don't say this. I'm from Haiti or Cuba, don't say this. I'm from Nigeria. Be open to learning that just because we have the same race doesn't mean we have the same cultural identity, right?

Exactly.

And I think culturally, because of what happened with Wendy and that other girl, Nneka or Nneka, whatever her name was, I think Wendy's very sensitive to making sure that Nigerians don't catch a stray anymore. And I'm proud of her, Giselle, in that moment. I also think it's a little funny that Giselle said, I'm sorry, now can you help me?

This is a Halloween telethon. She went straight to, I'm so sorry for being disparaging. Now I need some help with Congress. So I think she also had a self-serving reason to listen to Wendy because she needed to ask for her aid, yes? Like Dustin said, help her.

The help episode.

I love the whole episode. I love the whole scene between them. Also, I think Wendy has signaled to Gisele, hey ho, just because the other green bandit is back. Y'all not about to haze me like y'all did when I first got here. Not too much. And I think Gisele's like, yeah, you're right. Robin doesn't have my back, so let me keep it cute. I loved it. I loved it.

Okay, so thank you for that educational moment, Blue. Appreciate you.

The more you know.

As we get back to the party, Gisele confronts Tia on... calling Wendy a scammer because Tia is the one that told Wendy what Giselle said. Tia said, it's rich coming from you, Giselle, because obviously Ashley told her that on a recent podcast, she did mention it, although Robin Dixon edited it out. Tia says, as long as you can get a check, anybody's pain, anybody's family, that is free game for your success. And that is Kind of friendship, my dear. I don't want it. Claudia, as the queen of reeds, was that reverse reed or off the dome?

I think it was off the dome.

Claudia, what does that background represent?

I'm sorry.

I don't know.

No, Claudia, leave it.

It's your ADHD. Put it back.

Is this calming? Listen, it's either that or, you know, which I want.

Miss Juicy.

The other queen of Atlanta. Was it Off the Dome or Red? No, I don't know. I don't know if it was rehearsed.

I think it was a hybrid.

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, because you might be like, okay, I'm going to have this to say. It's a little weird because we do that on our show. We have to talk about whatever's trending, so it's kind of a tough place to be in. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know.

Oh, trust me, Claudia.

I know.

Yeah, like, you damned if you do. You damned if you don't. You don't go in and talk about it. Oh, you're protecting your friends, and you're not keeping it a buck. Then you say something, you're obsessed, and you're a hater.

Oh!

In the words of DMX, what you bitches want from a nigga?

I don't know what.

The right answer is. I don't know what the answer is. Tia, what do you want? If you got some news, we're going to talk about it. Wendy, that goes for you too. Sorry. That is the nature of doing commentary and doing a podcast. And that just kind of comes with the territory. Now, you can try to soften the blow a little bit when you love the girls or when you love the person or that's your friend. You can soften it. You don't have to be so salacious about it. But it is part of the game. I don't know.

I don't think so.

Friend i don't i think that there's a responsible way to handle it when you discuss something that impacts like you know somebody you know i think yeah so i said.

It's how you handle it i said it's yeah it's a way you handle that shit that i don't think that giselle has really been been moving with regard toward and i think that robin's time away from the show like she said you know i'm saying in that scene being away from the.

Show makes you realize how disconnected from real life this can get. And I don't think that she was comfortable with that. And also that shows great responsibility as a host. That's a sustainable practice, right? When you incorporate responsible handling of sensitive topics, sensitive information, that can impact people's lives.

You know what I'm saying?

And I think that that speaks highly to Robin occupying that seat for however many years that he had that podcast now. it shows some growth or what Natasha Rothwell say growth.

It shows growth. You know what I'm saying?

And I, I appreciate as, as a host, as a media personality, like you guys, I appreciated that actually her taking that beat, being like, let's handle this with just a little more care. Cause I talked to her and she told me that, Hey, are you supposed to be my friend? This is really fucking me up even more that you're handling it this way as if it's just a, headline that is like you said claudia a little more salacious or whatever um handle it with some care i just respected it personally.

I i think they're expecting maturity and friendship out of someone that giselle listen i don't know her like that but she shows she don't give a fuck yeah i do whatever for the podcast like she's not like even her old her girl robin who is her girl we find out on this episode she's throwing her in the bus so it's like expect real good friend behavior out of someone. She's there for the plot and for the show. Now, Robin, and it shows the conscience. I love how this makes Robin look.

Me too.

I love how it makes Robin look. It shows some humanity there. Can we be honest? Expecting Giselle to feel like to handle it that way, it ain't going to happen. Giselle... is on there with no real storyline of her own and is managing to stay there. Carlos says she's the star, the NeNe Leakes of the series. So her thing is, I'm steering the pot and I don't give a damn about y'all feelings. I don't care.

Well, speaking of Carlos, I think this scene is his fault. And this is my hypothesis. The reason why I think, no, I think the scene is your fault. I think Tia watches the show. And Tia saw Carlos say in every single podcast, every single stream that he could say, Giselle is here for her coin. She is clocked in. She is the blueprint. Ching, ching, ching here. I think she heard you saying that.

Come on, you're supposed to be Wendy, not Carlos.

Sorry, I'm just saying. I think Tia done heard Carlos D. King constantly say that Gisele was clocked in for her coin and she is doing her job. And in her mind, that turned into, oh, what won't you do for a check? Also, Gisele don't even agree with Gisele. Because if we go back to the previous episodes, the reason why this kicked off is when she said to Tia, oh, don't worry, we won't talk about it on the pod. And when he said... Oh, isn't that funny, ho? You talked about me on your pod. So Giselle don't even agree with Giselle.

Which one is it?

You right. And respectfully, as someone who does social commentary, every single one of you has been attached to a story that I've had to cover in the last year that I've been on this show. And on Blue Centric Live.

I always say, yeah, that's proud of this girl.

We're going to hold a beat. I thought Claudia was somebody who was getting dragged. I intentionally waited a month to drag her myself. Who?

Who was it?

I saw you in a picture with the lady with the fake degree. And so I waited a month to mention her because I wasn't sure how close y'all were.

I got so much smoke for that. We didn't all go together. Me and my friends went and we started- But.

Friend, because I care about you, I waited. I wanted to make sure you didn't mess with her before I dragged her.

It was like all them hoes threw us all in the same basket, but whatever. It's fine. It's fine.

I saw you with that lady and said, mm, I'm not sure how close Claudia is to this. Came back the following week, Dustin dragged her. I said, oh, green light, let's go. See, there's a certain kind of care you have.

You know what I'm saying?

There's a certain kind of care that you have. You know what I'm saying?

Exactly, boo.

No, the minute Dustin said her name, I said, oh, next episode of Blue Centric Live, we're going in.

They said Claudia. They're calling it the Claudia files.

Exactly.

I always got to check how close somebody is to Claudia before I shoot. So I'm just saying, Claudia, you're exhibit A of how there's a way to do it.

Baby, listen, yeah, I show a little care, but we talking about Giselle.

That's true.

Giselle don't give a damn about none of that. She is surviving with, I think she's a reality star 24 hours a day. I don't think, that's what I think about her. I think she's 24 hours a day. I was trying to put a picture up of her, but it wouldn't let me be great.

That was God.

Go ahead. This is fun doing this. I want to do this every show.

No, this is actually fun. So what did y'all think about Robin and Ashley getting into it as we discuss how the episode ended? Because Ashley tells Robin that she thought it was strange behavior that Robin even brought up the edited moment out because, you know, that's why she told Tia. And Robin asks Ashley, what are you talking about?

Because Giselle is the one that brought it to the podcast, Talking Shit. Karen's impressed because it's sort of like, once again, Robin is no host bar when it comes to her opinion. Dustin, are you surprised that Robin is getting it with Ashley and Giselle is over there catching a stray?

I'll make this succinct since it's 9.51. No, I'm not surprised. Robin spent time away from the show. She knew she needed a different formula, a different recipe, a different sauce. to stand out and to be impactful in her new role as a friend of the show and her being more vocal with her opinions without feeling like she's betraying a friendship or a relationship by doing so is refreshing for me and a lot of the other viewers.

Claudia.

Oh my heavens.

Wow. Wow.

This is a telethon.

Wow. She looks good, though. She looks really pretty.

She does.

What was the question?

Oh, my God.

In terms of Ashley and Robbie getting into it, are you just surprised about, like you were saying earlier, the OGs are just, like, coming for everyone's coins because they are clocked in?

I said it before. When I started watching, I'm like, damn, these girls work. They work. And they work. You can't be sensitive on this show. You get your little fans hurt on this show. No one is safe, even your bestie. No one is safe on this show. I liked it. I think, you know, Ashley is entertaining to me sometimes, but Robin making her look like the least likable one with the little antics. And she's kind of giving mean girl over there with Giselle. So I'm kind of curious how this is going to go. But I'm here. I'm team Robin. I'm team Robin now. I really am. I like it. I like it.

Same.

I like taking it to Ashley. She's like, basically, I ain't never scared. I'm not scared of anyone of y'all. She's like, everyone's getting the smoke. But it doesn't feel like she's trying to have a scene. It feels like she's just like, I had a break from you, Heffes. I'm not stressed out having to talk about my husband and the shenanigans and hotel rooms and all that and front desk and credit cards. She's like, I'm here now, and this is just me. I don't have that pressure, so now I can focus on y'all, Heffes. And call out the bullshit. She called out the bullshit.

Blue, your final thoughts?

My final thought is that Ashley lost her way without Michael and Robin found her way without Juan. And I never thought I would say this, but Robin is my favorite thus far actively. Wendy and Stacey are grandfathered in. But I literally look forward to scenes with Robin Dixon. May I be struck again? I can't believe I'm saying it.

I'm stunned, right? And also, Robin, I hope that whatever this formula is that has made you stay, I hope they don't play with it too much because it's so organically perfect. I'm just scared that they might tweak it too much. Leave it how it is for now and see how it goes. Also, I remember, Claudia, you had mentioned that you missed a couple of seasons of Potomac and you.

Were new to the show.

I'm late.

The fact that Robin is making you see what we always knew about Ashley, she's already worth her check for me. Because last season, we tried to explain to you why Ashley Darby was toast, was dry, like Melba toast. She was dry. She had the spirit of dryness. Robyn is illustrating to you why a lot of us have been giving Ashley Darby the side eye for quite a while.

I think Ashley might be the next person to take a hiatus or sabbatical and come back better. I would love for Robyn to replace Ashley, personally.

Jen.

Jen's awesome.

This is us on Watch What Happens Live. We went to go have drinks afterwards, and I.

Was a fan since then.

You met the real her, and now we're finally meeting the real her. So you met the real her.

See, I only know her from this. I thought she was dope.

Oh, y'all look good. I was back.

Robin looks amazing.

Wow, y'all look really good there.

Damn.

Damn, Robin.

Claudia, y'all look good. No, I was talking about you.

Yeah.

All right.

So Raindrops, let us know in the comments your thoughts on the Real Housewives of Potomac. Love you guys. Happy Halloween. Thanks for a great episode.

Love y'all.

It's next Monday.

Bye.

Have fun.

Bye, family.

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