SAI IT WITH YOUR CHEST! | RHONY Recap with Dustin Ross

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So raindrops, Dustin says he has lots of thoughts as we get into the latest episode of.

New York City.

So, Dustin, you know, the thing with this Roni recap that I love and the rest of us do as well, we love it when you kick things off and go on the tangent. So, when it comes to this episode, we can start wherever you want to. I'll try to picture us in different directions, but what's pissing Dustin off today?

So, let's start with, I was trying to understand.

I knew it was a Cuban party, and I know that Cuba has some beaches and you know and things like that i wondered if there was water on the floor because why were daisy's jeans so high up here at the party now you talk about everybody on this show what they cook what they don't cook what they wear how they house look how it don't look and you came in here looking like that she came in there looking like that and i know daisy is a makeup artist but her husband do hair why daisy hair ain't.

Never done why.

And always talking about somebody. She really made me sick of her this episode. And I still recognize the value in her on this cast. I still recognize that we need somebody to agitate things and shake things up. And she is incredible at that. She's good at her job, but she gets on my nerves. And what did it for me was at Aaron's husband, Abe's birthday party, when Cy called Carol and Daisy fixed her goddamn mouth to say.

Um, excuse me, Sy, excuse me, Carol.

Who the mother, who in the fuck is Daisy talking to, Carlos? Is it me or was that not? And then what really sealed the deal for me was once she started mimicking the way that she saw Sy call Carol and she changed her diction and her tone and inflection.

In her voice, deepened her voice. Carol! Carol! Carol! Carol!

She started doing like that. Are you trying to say that she lacks manners and that's how she acts? I don't like the summation of that. I don't like where that takes me mentally. I don't like that combined with the give the sushi to the doorman. I don't like that coupled with the conversation she had at Carol's house about Psy saying she don't come from a family family.

that has empathy into what kind of family, what kind of family you come from. Cause your mom's, her mom's house looked just like her house, which there was nothing wrong with her house, but you judging everybody else's house. So like, what's really going on here. I also think that having money and having wealth is something that, um, means something more to Daisy than it does to most people.

I think Daisy is operating from a lack, a mindset of lack, right.

And lacking.

And I think, I think that she is waiting for this Bravo situation is like her big break.

And I respect that because it would be mine too.

But what I'm saying is I also wouldn't be on there judging other people's furniture and shit calling it Pier 1-ness and all those things that can rub people really the wrong way. I know I'm not crazy and I know I'm not the only person that's seeing this. That's why I was so glad Cy went on to check that and see Cy understands those microaggressions.

And that's why she told her, Daisy, shut the fuck up. I'm serious now. Now I'm sick of your ass.

Psy had been sick of her when she talked about the sushi and all that, but she kept her composure. That, excuse me, Carol, like, let me teach you how to have manners and how.

To act in this space.

The condescending nature of those words triggered Psy and pissed her off. And that means that Psy thought just the same motherfucking thing that I did when that happened, as I did when I was watching it.

I didn't like Daisy this week. I did not. Did not, did not, did not. And why does she always look windswept?

She always looked like she coming in from high beach winds and not in a good way. That ain't beach waves. It's wore out. I'm tired and downtrodden. She always looked like she had a rough time before she got to set emotionally.

You know what I'm saying?

Daisy always looked like her call time was like 7, 10 p.m. And it looked like she had to do Martha and maybe like for morning news. So maybe you had a call time for Martha was six that day. And which means she had to leave her apartment all the way downtown at like four 30 to set up all her shit. You know, maybe it, maybe it's just long days, but Daisy always looks like she walked through a car wash before she went to the scene.

And I don't understand why. Is it just me?

Oh God. Where do, okay. Well, okay.

Love her on the show, though.

So where do we begin? Where do we begin?

Where do we begin?

Okay.

Let's start with... Let's just start with Daisy.

Yes. I agree with everything you're saying.

Let's start with the scene with her and Carol.

Love the Prada jacket she had on, by the way. Daisy being in her state. That little Prada jacket was dope. It was cropped. That's what made it dope.

I love it, too.

And on top of that, I like Carol's apartment, by the way. It's so chic and cute and very her.

Like, I'm here for it.

It's eclectic. It matches her personality. You know what I'm saying? It is a.

Mixture of styles and textures and prints that works.

You know what I'm saying? It works. So, yeah, I like her apartment, too.

No, I'm definitely here for it. And I love the fact that she does not want more than three people.

Hilarious.

No ice, no food, no nothing. Carol is actually hilarious. I love Carol.

What I didn't love was the things that Daisy had to say about Psy.

It was downright nasty.

And this episode, especially that scene, showed me Daisy does not like Psy.

And never has.

And I'm going to tell you why I'm shocked I didn't get this earlier in the season, but I got it in this scene. Especially towards the end when, like you said, Psy says, shut the fuck up.

On a bad foot. On that.

That's why she leaned that way.

Shut the fuck up. Had to get on the good foot. You know what I'm saying?

But here's what hit me in this episode.

Because they keep mentioning to us they were friends for 20 years, they are drilling that down our throats because they want us to believe they were consistently friends for 20 years.

And not had just known one another for 20 years.

Yeah.

You guys were not friends in terms of hanging out for 20 years straight. You guys met 20 years ago. when y'all used to run to each other, how's it going? Y'all may have been to parties together, different holiday shit. The fact that you are even mad that, well, she doesn't find her apartment. All of this shows me that you guys aren't as close as you guys are trying to make it seem to the audience that you are.

And based on how Daisy talks about Psy, Daisy talks about Psy as if Psy is beneath her.

100% agree.

You know what I mean? And here's the deal.

Daisy is on the show because Psy recommended her.

Here's the point of blame. The way it works, Dustin and casting, this is the reboot.

Shout out to Destiny.

Hey, Destiny.

And the thing is, they had to get this one right. They had to get this right. So long story short, I'm pretty sure Let's be clear. This is Psy's third season. You didn't recommend her season one. You didn't recommend Daisy season two. But you recommended Daisy season three because I think Psy said, this bitch.

I know she would be good though.

I know she'll be good TV.

I don't fuck with.

This bitch, but whatever. You know what I mean?

Against my own judgment, let me recommend her And the things that Daisy said, I'm going to read this to you.

Now, she did start off.

With a compliment saying that there is a soft side to side, right?

Yep.

And then it goes down here from there.

She proceeds to.

Say, she invited me to her apartment and gave me sushi.

I don't eat supermarket sushi.

Mind you, she walked in and said, oh, you're so fancy.

Oh, when she first got there and seen said sushi. she uttered out her mouth oh you're so fancy wow sigh you're so fancy talking about the sushi that she went on to talk about when she talked.

About the sushi fakeness number one she goes on to say Psy is far from an open book. She is like an iPhone where you forgot your password, but when she opens up, she is great. Carol then says that she doesn't like onions and compares Psy to an onion and says she's complicated in ways that's not interesting to her.

The screaming, the weaponizing, she is boring and predictable. When you peel the layer back of an onion, you're not getting a watermelon.

You're just getting an onion.

Now, look. I. OK. I don't blame Carol.

I don't agree with Carol, but I don't blame Carol because I'm trying to think like, OK, what if I was that person?

Right. And if I was Carolyn, you ask me anything that even happens.

Intimated or hinted at me being connected to that bullshit, and you know what bullshit I'm talking about, I'd be on your ass too for the rest of the time I knew you. And so I'm not surprised by Carol's take on Psy. I don't agree with it, but I'm not surprised by it at all. That's exactly how she should feel after Psy asked you, so you never went to the island? That was the nail in the coffin for me. You know? So I get it.

I get it.

I definitely get Carol. The Psy thing, all of what she said was horrible. Then to say Psy can be the most compassionate person, but she can also be the coldest person.

This is not a friend.

No.

This is a woman who you have tolerated the way Destiny told Arianne she tolerated all the people before Martell.

Yes.

This is what it is. You don't like Psy.

And I think the reason why you don't like Psy, and I'm going to say it, I think, and she hasn't said this, this is how I feel.

I think Daisy sees Psy as being ghetto.

I agree. I agree. I agree.

I believe that's what she thinks as well, as evidenced by her trying to fucking tone police her and police her behavior in that way. As if Psy was making an outburst or distracting people when she called Carol's name. She may have raised the volume level of her voice a little bit because y'all are in the middle of a motherfucking house party. with glasses clanging and music playing and cigars rolling and Cubans cubing.

You know what I'm saying? Everything was going on in the party. So she had to say, hey, Carol, Carol.

And plus, Daisy was running her mouth anyway, taking up space. So Cy had to cut through that in order to have some dialogue with Carol, who didn't want to talk to Cy anyway, because now Carol don't like Cy.

Now that's Cy's fault.

However, Cy had to work a little harder to have some sort of engagement with Carol.

And Daisy knew that.

Daisy also knew what she was doing by, by addressing Psy's behavior when it came to manners in that space amongst the other ladies in the cast. She knew exactly what she was doing, doing that in front of Carol. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yeah, no, she, it was all intentional based on she wants to little girl her.

Like, that's what it is.

She, it's interesting to me because, listen, if you are Lisa Vanderpump, where you You yourself have all of this wealth and access and private planes and all those things.

I may be a little bit more understanding. I'm going to give you a good example.

There is people out there who's not too fond of EJ Johnson.

Yeah.

Fine.

Get it.

Whatever.

But there's also people who's like, look, based on how he grew.

Up, don't know that world or the access in which he lives. So guess what? I'm going to let him live, right?

Because they understand that you live in a world that isn't normal or relatable to me. The thing with Daisy that's so shocking, nothing about her screams wealthy or screams bougie.

Yes, none of that.

Mm-mm, legacy, none of that.

And also, I would also like to add further to your point, the people who do have the wealth and the things, the accoutrements that will communicate to a person that they would judge your behavioral standards or want you to be quote-unquote boozy, those are the people who appreciate motherfuckers that are 100% themselves the most. They want you to have a personality and they want you to be 100% yourself.

They don't want you to posture And act the way that you think they want or expect you to act. No, they want you to be respectful, which they want anybody in the world to be. But be yourself. They don't try to tone police you or do any of that shit. They enjoy the color added to the situation. So the way you can tell that people really don't have shit is when they do things like what Daisy did to Psy in that case. Oh, no, we're in this space, so you got to act like this. That's how you know a motherfucker ain't used to nothing.

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?

That's how you know. Because really the people, Martha's around her ass.

Hello? You know what I mean?

So that's how you know so they don't give a damn about you being how you are. They take you as you are. So, you know.

That's actually a really good point. The thing is this.

That's actually a really, really smart point because for Daisy to be so elitist, Martha, who has it all, doesn't even treat you like you're just a makeup artist.

Nope.

She treats you like.

A human who she's fond of and who she considers a friend. And yes, she may come to your apartment and say, why you got this bread, this type of cake, and all those things. But She really does see you as a friend and she don't mind you traveling with her.

Yes, beat my face.

But she also enjoys you so much so she's on this show. She's been filming a couple of times. So the fact that your humility can't even allow you to see people for who they are is very strange to me.

Their belted leather jacket fooled me.

When the cast photo came out and I saw Daisy with that hair over her shoulder and that belted leather jacket on, I was like, I'm going to like her. It was the damn jacket. I've been hoodwinked and bamboozled. Jacket doozled. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened. That's what happened.

It was all.

It was smoking mirrors, man. Smoking makeup mirrors, as a matter of fact. That's what it was. Over it. You know who else had me laughing in this episode, Carlos?

Erica. Yeah.

Erica is funny.

When.

When they were at the party and Cy and Erica and who else was over there talking to them? I can't remember, but Cy mentioned Daisy. And then Erica was like, some kind of way it got quiet. And Erica was like, so I was like, what do you know?

You know something? And Erica was like, she's like, what do you know?

Well, she said, you know, all that. something about your Instagram or the, the, the Devin piece. That's what it was. Which we'll get to Devin in a minute and how New York is going to have eight housewives next season.

Cause Devin is getting upgraded.

But anyway, um, cause clearly in the one episode, the seasoned vet has entered the space, but anyway, um, That was funny, though. Erica was like, someone on Instagram, you know, like, I don't know. So I was like, I've never seen her Instagram in the way Erica was like.

It was just funny.

She's naturally and unintentionally funny, and I'm enjoying Erica.

I'm enjoying what she has to this cast.

Again, someone who is married to a billionaire, and she never even wears it on her sleeve, literally.

She rips her dress. She's so, like, Whatever.

I appreciate what I have, but it doesn't make me who I am as a person.

Thank you. That's my point. They don't act like that. They like for you to be yourself. So I'm looking forward to Daisy versus Erica coming up soon, too. That was in that midseason trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's when she left the table and the whole run for his gumping happened. So let's get into Devin Simone.

So Devin Simone. We have a clap for Devin Simone. So, Raindrops, I told you guys this before.

I'm familiar with Devin Simone because of Wendy Williams. She used to be a, gosh, a returning guest, constantly returning guest, excuse me, on Wendy Williams' show.

She is married. She's a matchmaker. She's gorgeous.

I've always liked her.

You know what's so funny?

I thought I met her later in life, but she reminds me of Jasmine Henley Brown.

Totally. Completely, totally, totally. In fact, they would probably be friends. They would be. Shout out to Jasmine Henley Brown.

I'm sorry. Jasmine H. Haynes.

Haynes. That's right, because there's been a change. Jasmine H.B. Haynes. Mrs. Haynes.

Our girl is Mary Raidrop.

There you go. Let's get to Daisy. I'm not Daisy. Lord Jesus, we're over Daisy. Let's get into Devin. Devin.

Devin is coming in through Aaron.

Yep. Top of the food chain.

I was going to say, to come in through the queen bee of the show is everything. Not only that, Dustin, Aaron met Devin Simone through her husband, Abe, who worked with her matchmaking company, all those things.

Devin is married to a white man.

I'm intrigued with New York City interracial couple.

What is that like? How did y'all match? What's the story there?

What's the story there? This whole story about Devin versus Psy. So the moment Devin walks in and sees Psy as high to everybody, and then they're like, do.

You know each other?

There was no hug.

There was about 10% out of 100% of eye contact.

It was a fleeting glance at best. Hi, hello. At best, that's what it was. And I was like, oh.

And what I loved most about it is that once the history was shared, which apparently they had met previously at a Fashion Week party, and then Jaisal had offered a year ago for them to hang out, and Sy declined and said that she wasn't fucking with Devin's Instagram. Of course, Jaisal told Devin that Sy said that. And so that was between them. But what I loved the most was that Devin was like, look, Here's what happened.

And I know that some people are, you know, clamoring for approval or whatever.

I'm not that girl. So I'm totally fine with us being like you over here. I'm over there or whatever. I was like, I'm not either. And you're pretty. And I want to get to know you. She conceded. She conceded in real time. And what was that?

Okay. Okay. You tell me if I'm reaching. Cause you know, listen, if I'm gonna call out Daisy, I'm gonna call.

On Aaron and Jesso and Carol. Si, I'm gonna call you out. Something in me, and listen, I could be the only one thinking this and that's okay. I really hope I'm wrong when I say this. I don't want Psy to be that girl who's intimidated by another pretty woman of color. Agreed.

It gave me, her.

Reasoning for not liking her was so weird.

And then to go on her Instagram and your confessional saying, I mean, look, it is boring.

It's not inspiring.

I think that's what it's about, friend.

I think it is some competition and not even related to the Real Housewives of New York. We got to go back a little bit for this to make sense. At least this made sense for me, right? Okay. Cy, we know, came into the Real Housewives of New York City as a digital influencer, an online influencer. Her thing was always, you know, I'm a fashion influencer with my campaigns and my fashion. And Devin, we know, was originally on the real world, did the challenge, had a career pivot, started being a professional matchmaker and amplified her business so largely that she was featured, as Carlos, you just said, a recurring figure. contributor to the Wendy Williams motherfucking show, which was the number one daytime talk show as a matchmaker.

That is the peak.

That's as high as you can get when it comes to media visibility being introduced to the.

Media, right?

Oftentimes people who are fashion influencers or digital influencers have aspirations to transition into work in media, in traditional media.

You know what I'm saying?

So Devin having an Instagram that was aesthetically pleasing, right? Coupled with her transition from reality TV into legitimate business that now infiltrates the media space, right? That's a little bit of the same spotlight that goes on the fashion influencers and the people who are tastemakers and have something to say.

It all overlaps.

And I think that there was some competitive energy there from Psy when she found out that this girl who had success in media success as an online influencer success as a matchmaker was coming to the show. And that's why she said, Oh, her Instagram is boring. She doesn't have to come to lunch. Cause like, no, I I'm the one who works in the influencer digital space. I think it was relative to that. Devin pushed through and busted into mainstream media as mainstream as it gets.

Okay.

And now she has level set with Cy. She passed Cy in, in media and influencing. Now she's level set with Psy, sort of, by being on the same shelf. Psy feels like she has a little bit of dominance as a housewife, a full-time housewife, and Devin's a friend.

That's what it looked like to me.

Yes.

That makes sense.

Makes a lot of sense.

And in Salted Injury, you come in through a woman I ain't fucking with.

Because here's what's interesting. She didn't come from Jessel.

No.

And all the scene we know is from Jessel. So why.

So the fact that they, which is the producers, said.

Come through Aaron at Abe's birthday party, now fucking sighs like, great.

You're on the other side. You're on the other side. Yeah. So that would explain the cold reception, all of that shit.

Yes.

But no, I love Devin. So the moment that.

Devin and Cy had that moment where Cy immediately apologized and.

Then said, okay, you're pretty, so I'm sorry.

Cy, the reason why it's hard for me to connect to Cy, I just think Cy to me just gives a phony ass girl. And that's why for me, when it comes to Daisy, if you want to have issues with her being whatever, make it about something that at least I'm seeing. I think Psy's phony, but to make it about all the things that doesn't make sense and makes you elitist isn't working.

Agree with you 100%.

But baby, Psy doesn't want any smoke with Devin Simone at all because Devin is going to give it right back. And on top of that, I agree with you. Eight housewives for sure. Devin impressed me in one episode.

Already brought her husband in. All of that. You know what I'm saying?

You already know she got a husband that's willing to film like the pieces are there, you know what I mean? So the elements. So I, yeah, I think they struck gold with Devin. I think she, she, she plays very well. Well, even though this is our first time seeing her on camera, obviously we might be speaking a little prematurely, but based on what we did see and what we know that she is skilled in and her, her previous experience as a television personality, her, and this, she almost has that Stacey Rush advantage, right? Because like Stacey Rush through her time on QVC, learned about presentation and about, you know, the way she's showing up on camera in a way that really, really greatly aided her participating on this show.

Devin has that headstart too through her work as a matchmaker, which made her have to talk to all different types of people, really find connection amongst people.

So she not who knows how to do that. Then she was on TV.

Before and she was on TV as a personality, as a business woman. So the composure, the poise that she presents with, she's next level. And she's a professional at this. So I really think that she's going to be a great addition to this show.

Great.

I see it. I see it.

The conversation with Carol, Carlos, her and Carol, when Carol was kind of being a little stank to her side, she's like, so wait, what was the... You know, she's like, similarly, I had the same.

Right in. No time wasted. Jump right in. New to jump right into it.

Babe, what Carol said. What'd you say?

I like this girl.

A friend of my enemies and friend of my own.

Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Loved it. Loved it.

Loved it.

Like you said, Carol has all the reasons to have an issue with Psy.

Based on what happened on the island.

Yeah.

But the fact that Devin and I won in this one episode befriended Carol and We know she and Jessa are cool so much so that Jessa was like, I did tell her what you said about them. That let us know they're cool. She came in through Aaron.

Looked good in a swimsuit.

The pool scene when they went her and Erica and Jessa were in the pool. She looked beautiful at the end.

Listen, I'm happy. And bring on Devin. Has a cast photo. Official friend. You know what I'm saying?

Bravo has already highlighted her multiple times today. And there's social media. So like Devin is having a little, it looks like she's having an impact and we welcome it.

And we on her side. Yes. Thank you very much.

Devin, you better not disappoint Devin.

You better not. Because we got your back, man. So, you know what I'm saying?

Listen, Davey, you are down here. Davey, I have nothing else for you.

No, with them mom jeans on. Mom jeans, mom jeans. She had on mom jeans and Lee's. What kind of Gloria Vanderbilt? See, she's in Sassoon. See, she had on some Sassoons.

Yeah.

Show some Sassoons. Like, Daisy, come on. What shit did you be talking about people and that shit? You know what I'm saying?

Really?

Talking about everybody's house and shit. But anyway, yes. Her husband seemed cool.

Daisy's husband.

Well, the thing is this. I thought he seemed cool, too.

I think he played the background well.

He knew when to back away from the conversation and just engage enough.

I like them. The thing is this, I like the husbands. I like that A, the confessionals.

Yeah, me too. Me too.

With his black t-shirt because he's so cool.

And that's a big deal, right, Los? You know, but you're up for EP. You know, the husbands getting a confessional is a big deal. Not everybody's husband gets that.

No.

Not even... What's his name? It's not Pivot.

Oh, I'm the gay one. No, the one that they stare with. No. Oh, God. The one that they... Aaron accused of being gay. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I mean when I said.

That.

Sorry, because I don't think that matters. Povitt is his name. Povitt is his name. The one that had the gay rumor attached to him. Povitt.

Oh, Carlos.

My bad.

Listen, this is the perfect segue into this conversation because.

I will say this.

Actually, I want to hear from you first.

What did you think about that scene between him and Jessa when Jessa told him about Aaron spreading rumors that he was gay and his reaction to it?

I think he was trying to be overly cool about it.

Yes.

I think in his mind, he was like, I want my reaction to this to message that that I'm not homophobic.

I'm also not gay.

I'm not going to make a big deal out of this, but I'm also going to take a couple of digs in my response. He's kind of fidgety, all that other stuff, you know, and probably been on thin ice with me since he made that Beyonce, Elon Musk comment a couple seasons ago. Last season, I think it was in the trailer in the first episode, whatever. So, You know, whatever.

I also am sick of people.

Using being gay as something inflammatory and something to accuse someone of to devalue them in some way.

So I'm over the whole shit, to be honest with you. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.

But other people on the cast look like they might do something gay first before Pauly would. Or at least be down to do something gay together with him. I'll put it like that.

The women or the men or both?

The men.

Okay.

And one of two. Two of the women look like they DL for sure. Two. But anyway, yeah, so you know.

Clay, it's New York City.

Fuck it. Yeah, be you. Be who you are. What they say, Carlos, be who you are for your pride.

Are you gay?

Yes.

Why would you ask me a question like that?

That's what Povitt was supposed to say. Listen, somebody need to show Povitt the fucking Tyler Perry movie. That was for colored girls. When Janet Jackson's character asked her, wasn't that for colored girls, Carlos? When Janet Jackson's character asked her, Are you gay? Why would you ask me a question like that? Oh, so you doing the bending. And nobody bending me over.

Pauly need to see that scene because that's what he should have said. Why would she make a rumor on me like that?

That's how Pauly was supposed to respond. Then Jess will pull that short flip bob behind her head.

Are you gay?

Why would you ask me a question like that? That's what he should have said.

That is such a Jessa move. The bob behind the ear. Okay.

I will say this. I'll start by saying this. I personally, I don't think he's gay.

Which is a strange.

I'll say this even as I'm saying I don't think he's gay. But I'm also aware that Just because I am only watching him on TV.

I don't know. The totality of him.

Yeah, because being gay doesn't mean you're feminine or whatever. But I just don't think it. But with that being said, I do have to acknowledge, though, Dustin, where there's smoke, there's fire.

And if something has been rumored for years.

Persistently.

Where it has reached all these other women in big-ass New York City, I at least have to wonder, and Andy Cohen, we may need to get some answers from the husband and wife for the reunion.

Did something happen.

Okay, again, I don't think he's gay, but did something happen at Equinox That appeared gay.

And let's be mature about this conversation, right? Because something very well allegedly could have happened, right?

And him and Jessel, it might not have been a deal breaker for them. You know what I'm saying?

It's all kind of people who stay together for whatever reasons they are. Him not working while she works full time ain't helping with the character profile.

You know what I'm saying?

And I'm just glad she ain't on Married to Medicine because you see how Toya Bush Harris did Lisa Nicole at this spot.

Baby, y'all better be glad that they married to medicine. Know that.

Remember that guy that approached Quad?

Yes. I know I love you, but I read Quad. I said Quad, the acting was Tyler Perry.

Good.

When the guy came up to her on the separate beat and she goes....

What? Who you?

I'm just saying.

I know.

I want to forget about that episode. And I know Kauai do too. And she knows that damn well. She know better than that shit, that stunt they pulled.

Okay. And I love Kauai. We love Kauai. Yeah.

There's water under the bridge now. Try to forget about it. But Kauai, you didn't do that shit.

It was a scheme that Kauai set up. I love you, Kauai. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.

So wait, let's dig in. Let's dig in.

Maybe something may have happened. Maybe there was an incident. Maybe who knows? It could have been, maybe this is a reality after dark conversation, but there's a lot of different things that could have been going on that could have been alarming and something that could have broken down a lot of marriages that other marriages could have made it through.

You just never really know. And a lot of.

People deem certain things experiment, experiment, experimental.

And not definitive. You know what I'm saying?

So like being gay by definition means something. And that might not be, you know, applicable to the way he's living his life currently. You just never know how this thing could really go. But as he was pretty clear in the scene and I have no choice, but to take his word for it. When he said like, I'm straight, I'm not gay. There's nothing wrong with being gay, but I'm not that. So I'm just taking it at face value, no matter what, mannerisms or anything else may suggest. I'll just take it at face value.

I will end by saying this.

It doesn't help that they've been honest about not having sex in two years.

That don't help at all because it's right there. I'm going to say it.

Dustin, if I'm in a marriage....

And it's right there. And we ain't fucking in two years?

Somebody's fucking somebody else.

And second of all, second of all, if you ain't working, you mean to tell me you ain't working right now and you ain't over there tearing Jess' ass up just to say thank you for paying the rent and the groceries?

As you New Yorkers like to say, food shopping.

You know what I'm saying? Now, what do we say for Michigan? We're going to the grocery store. We're going grocery shopping. Go get groceries. I got to go. That's what people in the, I got to go food shopping.

Yeah.

So anyway, because Carlos, you know, we'll go all the way off track, but the least you could do is be in there ringing Jessel's bells.

You know what I'm saying? To show some appreciation and, He's.

Rigging walls, allegedly, Dustin.

For your sustenance and covering. You know what I'm saying?

You need to show appreciation for that by sustaining and covering her. So if you're not even doing that, plus they saying you would you be you know in locker room at equinox i don't know but i don't but according to what he said that ain't him and we have no choice but to take that for.

What it's worth um listen i it's it's it's very interesting um And listen, it's New York City, marriages are everywhere.

And listen, it's hard to find a good apartment.

And a woman that'll pay for it while you cook.

I said, what?

He wanted to be a food, a cook, a food influencer. Who gonna buy the food? That's the shit you do after you got all your investments in place. Everything's running its damn self. You're making money in your sleep. Then you waste money on being a food influencer to the pops. You need to buy food to influence the stomachs of your children. That's what you need to be. That's the food influencing you need to be doing. I was shocked.

I was for real. Them tummies, them little tummies, them kids tummies. Them boys, don't they got twin boys? That's bad. And Jessa didn't want no more kids because the twins.

Were so bad. Ain't that what the story was, Carlos? Yeah, them little boys need to eat. They're growing boys. So that's the food you need to be influenced. And I was shocked that he even felt confident enough to bring that to television as a heterosexual male in a traditional way. According to our society, heterosexual relationship, it is odd for the man not to be the breadwinner and to be as forthcoming with the fact that he's not the breadwinner.

To be bold enough to go on one of the most popular shows on television, on one of the most popular networks on television, and admit that you're not fucking working.

Or fucking.

Or fucking. As our Jamaican brothers and sisters say, wagwan. A wagwan, okay?

Or in terms of Phaedra Parks Esquire. Do them both.

Do them both. Oh, Carlos. I almost said something.

The Real Housewives of Atlanta will premiere next year.

Yes, it will.

We'll be recapping it because I can't wait to see C.T., Anyways, child. So, Justin, this was a great episode. We are so happy that Devin Simone made her debut.

Me too. Me too.

And I'm hoping that every episode after this, we get a chance to see her because we are halfway through the season and so.

Far so good.

100%.

One last note, we didn't talk about Aaron and Abe's townhome.

Oh!

What do you think, Carlos? Be honest. When I saw, I'm going to say it, I don't care.

When I saw that wood paneling that stopped at the top of the stairs and then the regular painted wall sconces began, I was like, okay, so they haven't even tried to like just update this in any way.

You know what I'm saying?

And what my friend brought up a good point, what Aaron and Abe tried to do was rush in a whole bunch of modern furniture to kind of camouflage. They use a lot of jewel tones and modern furniture. to camouflage the obvious, you know, upgrades that the place needs. Bare bones wise, it's a beautiful brownstone on the Upper West Side. So they can, if they decide to buy that or whatever, get a situation with the landlord where they get some upgrades worked into the deal, that can be a, it's a dream home in New York City.

Absolutely.

Carlos, you know that. It's the dream home.

I was going to say, yeah.

But it needs some love, some TLC.

I said, where is the Murphy's oil soap for these walls and all this wood?

Where is the Murphy's? I ain't seen nothing. Them kids running around and falling all over. It was just a lot.

When Daisy slammed them doors and Jessel tore them doors up, talking about, I don't think she needs to be slamming the doors like that.

It's going to fall apart. And what the hell is that green puff in the corner?

I was like, Jessel, they going to call Jessel's husband gay? And she is mad as fuck about it. She showed up looking good, okay, on purpose, and then went in there and tore the entire house up.

More than it already was tore up.

Yeah. I was surprised of the condition.

That it was in because, you know, when we saw the home.

In the Hamptons. Beautiful. Gorgeous. Beautiful.

I expected something else. And I was... So.

I started thinking because, like, Erin, you know, Erin be in her shit. Like, she wears nice clothes.

Yeah.

Like, her jewelry and stuff and them confessionals on them bracelets probably was Alexis Batar or something.

With all those bangles lined up. Like, she has good style. Even, like, the little.

When they were on Mosquito Island, she had the little black Jill Sanders set on on the beach.

You know what I'm saying? Just, like, she be in her shit. And I wonder if That doesn't always follow me. Follow me.

You got certain people who love to dress well. And then they also like their homes to be like they're into home decor as well. The style interest overlaps in like their own wardrobe as well as a Marlowe Hampton. Perfect example. They have other people who love clothes and love style and just don't really care about like. their home decor or whatever. They won't live nowhere, broach infested or nothing, but like, they don't care about updating and fixing up a house, whatever. I was just wondering where they fall in that because after the, the home damage in the Hamptons that are expressing, like, we got to get a loan and shit, you know what I'm saying?

All this other stuff.

So I'm like, I wonder if they, spend money on clothes and like childcare and stuff.

You know what I'm saying? Cause that shit gets expensive. They got four kids. Yeah. They got four kids.

I'm assuming.

Of course.

So I just wonder if the money kind of goes there. And also to be clear, that's not a cheap town home to rent whatsoever. They paying what you think Carlos about 19, 22.

Yeah.

About 22 grand a month. So like, I'll just wonder why they pick that one.

That's all I'm saying.

Cause it doesn't reflect, The taste level that we saw executed in the Hamptons home, nor does it reflect some of the taste level we've seen Aaron's wardrobe, minus those capris and them.

Kidneys she had on her back.

Can you imagine if she just had on a black, if she had on like a black wide leg pant? Think about how that would have just changed the whole shit. You know what I'm saying? And some dope shoes. Because Erin can dress, Carlos. She be at her shit, so I don't know what happened with them.

I'm stuck up in the capris, child.

Yeah, them cigarette-led capris she had on. You know they had little slits at the knee bend, right on the end, Carlos.

Little one-inch slit at the knee bend. I was confused, baffled, befuddled. You know? That's all. I was just like, wow.

And then Jessel came in and tore it up, talking about Alcatraz on the Upper West Side.

Bars on the window and shit. Jessa went on. Oh, you didn't call my husband gay?

Jessa was funny. She made me laugh this episode. She made me laugh this episode. And like you said, it was her give back.

As it should have been.

And it goes to show you too that guess who did not have anything to say about it?

Daisy. And with that being said, we'll see y'all next week.

Okay, so Raindrops, let us know your thoughts on this episode of Roni.

And don't forget, Dustin is on tour.

Yes.

So Dustin, you'll be in D.C. November. Once again, let the Raindrops know.

That's right, baby. November 20th, the Miracle Theater in D.C. I cannot wait. I've been in the lab cooking. Chef cooking with the pot. Been in the lab with the pen writing. I'm so excited to premiere this new material. It's all new shit. I've never done any of these jokes in any city before. So it's all new stuff.

About 90 minutes worth of material. We're going to have a good time. So come on out. DustinRossLive.com is where you can get your tickets. And again, that is on November 20th in Washington, D.C.

At the Miracle Theater. Holler at your boy. Thank you, Los.

Thank you, man. I'll see you next time. Love you, bro.

Love you, bro. Peace out.

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With the Black Effect Podcast Network.

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