Travis's Top 10 Horror Movies In Honor Of Halloween! : Travis Told You

0:07 Thank you.

0:50 Hello ladies and gentlemen what the fuck is this video oh right because we streamed halloween where's the it's not as bad right there's this i'm very small there there's that this one's all right we got some background going on but you can't really see her he's here in the broom i am your host travis snell i hope you're doing well on the eve of all hallows eve the greatest day of the year of the century the millennium whatever you want to say halloween is just the fucking best i can't wait So on a Saturday, which is super weird because as of having kids, it's all, even when I didn't have kids, it was like, Hey, uh, for us, we do the mall, the local mall. You know, some people just make that their only thing. That's fine.

1:31 But it would be get off school, go to the mall. And it would always be like the mall, I think would be like three or three 30 in school be ending at two 30 or three. No, it'd be ending. It was at three. I remember because once I was old enough and going to high school, uh, my mom let me skip that day, which I always appreciated. Um, Is that why it's so close with this angle? No, it's just that. Why is my camera so close today?

1:53 Is this, like, the same camera I use, like, all the time? Do they do something? Because usually when I'm podcasting, like, it's, like, strange.

2:01 I don't know.

2:02 Who knows? Sorry. I just had to interlude there. But, yeah, usually it would be done, 2.30, mall at 3, so we had to rush there. She let me leave early. And then we'd go there, eat, and then we'd go do the Halloweening and trick-or-treating and everything, right? Halloweening. Oh, there's Taylor, as always. But this year's on a Saturday, so there's no school. They moved it, the bastards. Emily's not a fan of this. And if you're in the chat, let me know. Today we're talking about Halloween, well, horror movies, but Halloween movies. I'll get to you in a second why I chose to do this. I'm Tres now. Welcome, October 31st, or 30th, Halloween Eve. All the good jazz, Tres told you. This year, Saturday, they moved it to

2:45 5 p.m. I agree with Emily. Emily's very stressed about it. She knows it's going to be busy. It's a Saturday. It's only an hour long, because before it would be from 3 to 5, but now the mall closed at 6, so it's like 5 to 6. I think it's going to be a gong show, but the kids want to do it. I do want to do it, too. I let her set. I said, hey, you could pitch it if you don't want to do it. You can tell the kids, and I'll be with you, but she knew.

3:07 She was like, I don't know. They're not going to go with me, and everyone's just assuming we're going to the mall, so we're going to the mall. But yeah, it's a little bit different. We're going to go to the mall and come back and then do trick-or-treating but uh yeah very exciting uh if you can and I'll probably do it for Dexter tonight if you want to and I'll have more photos in the discord uh oh shit I gotta do hang on one second there we go um we are our Halloween costumes this year my Halloween costume is on the Terrifier 2 watch long reaction stream that we just did uh we recorded a couple weeks ago but we put it up there That was our last GV Day Unlocked. Kirkland hates torture porn, so

3:44 we made him watch that. And that's not the only reason why he has an unenjoyable time. There's probably a few. So it was a fun time, though. We're all in our Halloween costumes. Or it isn't just a costume. We bought the Michael Myers costume for whatever reason. Kirkland wore his Hunter costume from our own movie, Adrenochrome, so he did that. And this year, I don't think I'll let that slip. I've shared some memes. I guess I should promote the show. But I am doing Jack Torrance. Me and Emily are doing Jack and... Oh, one second.

4:14 Hang on. I've got to get the photo.

4:24 Like I said, there will be better photos once we do... We've only got the one right now. But we're doing Jack and Wendy Torrance. So let me get it up here. Where is it here? So where's my... I did the whole Jack, like, tired... Yeah, I did the whole, like... He's looking out the window gimmick, you know, so he did that. So that's the picture right there. Emily did a good job finding that jacket and the shirt. Very identical.

4:45 She's doing Wendy Torrance. She got a wig and everything. And then Logan is the Joker. Ellie in the middle is like some sort of like spider woman, spider girl situation. And then Gwen is a cop because as I've talked about before in a couple after nines and whatnot, she's very much into after sheep detective into detective and cops and stuff. So who knows? And then the girls, the twins, this will make the ultimate is the twins are going to have, they're going to be the ghost girls. Because from The Shining, obviously, they're not twins, but they're like the two sisters and they're covered in blood. We're doing that.

5:14 Today at daycare, they're just wearing just the dresses. But tonight we're going to spray paint them and put the blood on them and everything. So it's going to be a very fun time. So I've been wanting to do Jack for a while. That's why on these streams I've been fucking complaining about this hair. That's why I've been growing it out so I can do that. I'm going to push it out like that when it's going on.

5:30 It's not as long sides as I wanted, but yeah. As we've said before, $ 500. That's one of our tiers. Cut my hair on Extra Life, please. If not, or shave me bald. That's what I'm going to do. Like I said, I'll do a full cul-de-sac donut as well for the stream. I'll give myself... Give me that. Not during Gauntlet. I've got to look cool. I've got entrances and stuff going on. Obviously, Extra Life is Sunday, November 7th.

5:50 There's going to be lots of promotion on that next week, so look out for that. Still more events to be announced. But yeah, we're looking very forward to doing Halloween and all that stuff. And yeah, so I'm being Jack Torrance. I've been wanting to do that for many years.

6:00 Me and Emily.

6:01 the second the twins were born, we're like, okay, we know at some point we're doing Jack and Wendy. The same way we already know in 2028, we're doing Gambit and Rogue. So I like to plan ahead because it's my, it's my favorite day of the year. But, uh, yeah, I hope everyone is doing well. Uh, I hope you've enjoyed all the content we put out this week. We still got a Dexter review later tonight. That will be later.

6:20 So if you watch live, it's going to be late, late. Cause I got some Howling festivities first and I think Kirkland has to watch it later. I don't know, but, um, uh, Let me just get this out here. Sorry. I was ill-prepared today because I'm doing lots of running around. And that's where I'll mention, unless it's something... I don't know how much time I'm going to have next week because I've got a lot of editing to do and a lot of things pre-streamed to do and get ready because we've gotten a bit better at it. So I'm going to say, as of right now, tentatively no Travis told you next week. If things go well and I have time to kill, then yes. Or if there's a big story that's very Travis-centric, then yes. But there's going to

6:55 be already newscasts. There's going to be two weekly geeks next week. some Vision Quest reviews, some other stuff. Godzilla minus zero, minus one is on the feeds right now. You can listen to that. So lots of stuff still cooking. And then, yeah, you got Dexter going on in the November census stream. But yeah, for Travis told you, if you haven't seen your feeds, that's why I just want to try to prepare and get other things. I got a secret thing that we're working on for the stream.

7:17 I got to get some Gauntlet stuff done. So, you know, a lot of good time there. But yeah, so I want to do this because I had the epiphany of, hang on, Oh, you hear that one? Oh, some good ones. Those ones felt good. I had this epiphany during Obsession. The movie Obsession came out, obviously a big hit, right?

7:39 When I was talking about movies that are scariest, that'd be probably a different list, right? But I was like, okay, what are the scariest movies that I've seen? And then I even, I can't remember how I got there, but I just ended up going like, okay, what even is my top 10 favorite horror movies, right? And not best.

7:54 To clarify, I asked the patrons, and then I'm going to be doing this myself. not best, because there's some things on here that I would have for on the best list as well, but I like doing the favorites because I think there's a bit more variety there, a bit more leverage of like, hey, this might not be a perfect movie, X, Y, and Z's wrong with it, but I love it because of this, or blank, or yadda yadda yadda, right? So that's where I'm taking that approach from, because I feel like there is arguments for best, but I feel like a lot of bests have your usual suspects, right? And I'm doing it mostly live on air i did write down some stuff so i made more of a thing because i want to be somewhat prepared uh so i do have the list so i

8:33 think there's like in the bottom tier if something comes up and i'm going to be reading do i do my own first do the patrons first i don't know because i have ones it could be it's like i think i got my 10 locked but what am I looking for in my top 10 favorite horror movies? And also, the reason I'm doing this list is because I just said, when I started the podcast, I felt like I knew this stuff, and now it's been 11 years since, and I don't know, I want to do this for a comic book, I want to do this for this stuff, I don't even know, oh, is this a top 10 horror movie? I don't know, I haven't thought about it, and here's the day where I'm going to be thinking about it. I know I got my top, like, three

9:09 to four locked, and even some of the things I consider locked, it's like, okay, where are they, and I got them placed, and I haven't even put that together, like, okay, where would I put X, Y, and Z? So, Hmm. Let's see here. Cause it just depends on the debate and if I need inspiration. Right. So I think I'll go with mine to not be too like, you know, not, not, not be influenced anyway. Right. I think I saw a little bit of some lists cause it's hard not to, and you copy them, paste them and whatnot. But yeah, what am I looking for? I'm looking for memorable scenes.

9:40 I think I'm looking for great performances. Uh, I don't necessarily need to be scared, but, I have a couple that I'm not scared by at all, but I think I need that a little bit. I think I've got some good variety going on. I don't have to have gross up moments but if they're there i am or if they're there that's great uh i'm not holding against it so maybe it sounds like i'm an easy lay for horror but i think it just has to stick definitely like the performances and characters whether it's even a character that's a minor one if it's one of the final girls or final boys okay i like them for x y and z uh but performances and memorable stuff is what sticks with me and i think if the movie has multiple memorable things about it that helps on rewatches.

10:24 And a lot of this, I went with, okay, if I think about horror movies, horror Jason movies, what are the ones that I've rewatched the most? I've put that here. You know, I think there's some, there's one that I have on the list that I do consider it as a horror movie, but it's not exactly the reason I watched for, but I feel like I got to have it on this list because I just, it's adjacent or it's in the category, but if I left it off, I'd feel bad, even though having it feels a little odd, right?

10:49 So yeah, Yeah, let... Jeez, my God. Criminal Minds will end with 20th season on Paramount +.

10:56 Fuck, man.

10:56 I didn't know they were going for 20 seasons. That's crazy. And there's definitely some where it's like, for example, right? Science of the Lambs. If we're making a best of, that would be on there. It's not on my favorites. I thought about it. It was probably like maybe top 20 I thought about. But no, there's these ones I prefer more. But that's where there's some other ones that might be some omissions that are gone. But, you know, this is the life.

11:15 So.

11:17 So I'm going to start... Yeah. Cause here's the thing. And this is why I was going back. I'm going to, I'm going to give you my nine and then we read the patrons list and then you can come back and maybe do 10 and we'll figure out some of the placing. Cause I have nine, I have honorable mentions so I can like slide them into the 10, but there wasn't anything yet that I was like, so set on.

11:38 Like I have a lot of, if all these are the S tiers, I think I just have a lot of right on the bubble that it could be this year, but it's like, do I have one that all these other nine ones for one reason or another, are above the other ones, right, so number 10 is definitely the, like, and again, still be a great movie for me, maybe an S-tier movie, but still, there's something that, it's the Mount Rushmore, it's the top 10, it's that golden list, so that's a tough thing, right, so I'm gonna say these movies, I hold all the judgment, if I want to change the order, I can, so if I change my mind mid-stream, or mid-conversation, or someone says something in the chat, I'm going to do that. And yeah, I'm

12:17 going to list off the nine and no matter what, I'll do a 10. If I come down to and have to pick a, a top 10, like if I have to put the honorable mention there, I will do it. But maybe as we're talking, something will come up. I'm going to save my list. I'm going to read the patrons list. And then I'm also going to bring up like some top 10 lists and maybe I have every right to boot something as well too. You know? So yeah, it's tough. I mean, looking at one right now where it's like, Hmm, I'm looking at like, I'd be thinking about that as a best, but not a favorite, but I really don't know. Yeah. So we're going to get there.

12:57 We're going to get there. Okay. And even this order, I don't know how I feel about number 10. I know someone else has this on their list, but I got to be right there with them. Uh, and that's why it's favorite, right? Not best, not whatever. I'm going Freddie versus Jason as my number 10. This is definitely in the category. of rewatchable and i am somebody because i'm i watched uh crystal lake memories recently and then i want to watch never sleep again because i love watching those docs every couple years i don't think it's like a big debate but i think there's some people i don't know i that go back and forth on how they did freddie versus jason i feel for a freddie versus jason movie in 2003 because nowadays so many

13:42 people are so confused like not not confused but they're so worried about what are the fans going to think? What are they going to push back on? What hasn't been done before? What's going to satisfy the audience? So the point where sometimes that's too much, right? Like a Rise of Skywalker situation, you're satisfying too many members, right?

13:59 Or too many mouths? That can't be the expression. You're satisfying too many mouths? That can't be it. Serving too many mouths? That could be it. So for me, I thought this was a as perfect as you could get for a Freddy vs. Jason movie. I thought they did a great job with the lore. I thought they did a great job of giving a reason why these people want to fight or have to fight. Freddy has been weak.

14:30 No one remembers him. The town's done a good job of hiding the secrets, keeping everything away, removing his name so people forget about Freddy Cooper, right? And they use Jason as a way, okay, well, I'm going to get Jason to start killing kids, especially on Elm Street. And when people start looking into it, they're going to say, oh, well, you know, there was this guy, Freddy Cougar. He was a child killer or whatever. And then, you know, there's people that died after the fact. And there's all these weird people in insane asylums and mental health society homes and stuff that are, like, getting help and what's going on.

15:01 So there's all this, the breadcrumbs, right? And again, a pretty good reason why I like Freddy. Think a man's villain. I want to get into, I saw this week of someone else on my timeline share that there was, like, this big, like, conversation about canceling the Freddy Cougar character. And it's just like, Sure, I guess, but he's a fucking...

15:19 First of all, who knows if any movies are happening, but he's a villain. He's a bad guy. We can enjoy his jokes and his kills and his looks and stuff, but at the end of the day, he's a bad guy. We're so rude for him to get killed and not win, right? He's just an enjoyable bad guy, and I understand a lot of things come along with Freddy and a lot of crimes he's committed, but we're not doing that. But either way, he's a thinking villain. I thought, okay, how do I get out of here? I'm stuck. I'm too weak.

15:42 Liam Shull in the movie goes to kill somebody. Can't do it because he has no powers. What do I do? get Jason to keep killing, and then eventually, as he says, Jason just won't stop, and then they have this great fight scene in the middle of the film, in the dream world, and then eventually they do the classic Freddy Cougar, I gotta wake up, hold him, bring him out, then they fight in the real world. You know what? Freddy puts up a pretty good fight, and I was talking about this on the last Geek First episode, because Mike sent in a fun Halloween God game question, about how, at the end of that movie, Jason needed, like, some help from some teens and other people, like, it wasn't just Jason doing that, now, still one-on-one in a room,

16:20 I'm still picking Jason, because he's a tank, that Jason, right, but Freddy's sneaky, and you got two big battles, so you got the classic, hey, Jason's in the dream world, so it's more psychological, he's pinballing him, he's seeing his mother, he's drowning, all that stuff, and then you get to be in Jason's world, where, oh, it's just gonna be blood and gore and I remember that's again for memorable scenes it is all that stuff it's the opening of that movie that opening of Freddy doing the monologue and the narration of the story of Jason and him and kind of just laying it all out one I think it catches you up but two it's just like and he's posing it just has such a good like vibe it feels like a great short film but then smash

16:59 credit here comes the title card everything that's good the two fights that they get the dream one you got that I'll always remember when fucking leave the movie it's at the camp and she's in a dream she's trying to like won't you help Jason is no one coming and then Freddy turns over of course he's fucking this dead camp counselor and he's just like he's just like I hmm it's a good question I was gonna say like I I think for maybe not me but I think for everybody if you're a Freddy fan I could make an argument that Freddy vs. Jason Fred Krueger is the peak Freddy. You get a little bit of the origin.

17:39 You get to see him joke a lot and make lots of crude comments. But then he's also scary. A lot in the franchise, he's kind of all over. I think some people might also say Dream Warriors. But, you know, he's having fun. He's turning into TVs. He's doing some stuff. He's still doing that in this one. But I feel like he's a little bit more creepier when we get the demon Freddy. When he jumps from the water and he looks like a demon. I actually would not be opposed if someone did a similar look to that in the future for the new reboot or remake. I really liked Demon Freddy. So you have the fights. I think the characters are good too. I like the lead. You got Jason Ritter in there. You got I can't remember

18:15 the guy who plays the Silent Jay or whatever. Jay kind of knock off and stuff. There's always that running joke. But no, I just think it's the perfect popcorn horror movie. Which maybe there's some more in here, but I think the rest of these movies that I have are more in the thinking sense. I don't think any of them might be in the popcorn category, right? Freddy vs. Jason has to be on the list just because it's in the popcorn category. It's a good time. It serves, I think, both of them well. Yeah, it's just like, to me, it's, this is as good as it gets for maybe a versus movie. I think I've said that many times because versus movies can be very weighted down. They can be very convoluted. There's just lots of stuff going on with them, right? So,

18:55 I think, and don't get me wrong, there's some convolution here, but I think they do their best to streamline it. There's some good creepy moments of, like, them in the sleep tanks and all the kids pointing at them. Like, I, yeah, there's tons of stuff that I really, really enjoy. Oh, my God. So, now you got Taylor. Look at that.

19:09 He's messaging me about fucking Dexter. We're going to talk about Dexter Resurrection tonight. My God. Always something, this guy. So, number 10, Fravor's Jason. Sigh. Or I guess I'll say that's number nine, right? Because 10, I still got to figure out by the end of this. Number nine, I'll put it there. Maybe I'll drop down and I remember something, right?

19:31 Because there's always those times. I talked about this. I regret the top 10 TV show list. I forgot Midnight Mass. I forgot Fleabag. I would have bumped some more for those. Feel bad about it, right? So number nine, I'll put that there. It's really tough as far as the placement of them, right? Because I want to do that. some people go here's my list not ranked in anywhere that's okay but i like to commit i like to make give myself a challenge here right um yeah i don't i think i'll swap i think i'll swap them So I'll tell you what they are back to back, the two.

20:12 Why I'm having such a big trouble with them, right? I'll talk about them both and talk about why I'm having trouble with them. I got number nine. I had number nine as Evil Dead 2013, and then I had Saw as eight. Both of these are very conflicting for me in multiple ways. Evil Dead, something from Evil Dead could also go in the tenth slot. I have both Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 in the honorable mention area where I could bump it up. Evil Dead 2013 is my favorite of those, because I just remember it was such a visceral experience seeing that, and I think they do a great job updating things. You are missing Ash, of course, but I just like how raw and gross and gritty it is, and just how fucked up it is. Well,

20:53 and I was like, oh yeah, this is a fucked up movie, and I absolutely love that, right? So, that's there, but I could easily put one of the other Evil Deads. I think I lean towards Evil Dead 1, because it's funny, I prefer the more darker Evil Dead, even though now I'm saying, hey, get away from it. Like, We did Rise, and then we did Burn. The next one, I don't know if it's going to be comedic. I think we do need a comedic one soon. I don't know if they did all the seasons of Ash vs. Evil Dead, and they're like, oh, we need to take a break.

21:19 So other than there being no Ash, absolutely love this movie. This is, again, four great performances. Jane Levy fucking kills it. Everyone else is, you know, good enough, the brother's good enough kind of there, but Jane Levy fucking kills it. And many, many memorable things. The fucking tree, the fucking box cutter on the tongue, and the finale. Out of all mine, maybe other than a few of them, but this might, even that, it might have the best finale, like third act, final 10 minutes of any of the films I got on this list. The whole creature coming out, the fucking car landing on Mia's arm, she rips it off, the chainsaw, the blood rain. It is a work of art.

21:54 It is fantastic. It's like a horror smorgasbord. So yeah, I'm a big fan of Evil Dead 2013. Now here's the thing, at number eight, I had Saw. So I have two problems with this. And I think I, as much as I love Evil Dead, I can fully admit that, and even then, I can fully admit that the Evil Dead movies are better than Saw, but obviously we're not doing that. I can admit they're better than Saw. I think I, I watch the Saw movies more because I love the lore and the characters, specifically Jigsaw Amanda and Hoffman.

22:25 I'm a Hoffman guy. I love the twists and turns. I remember, obviously the Evil Dead movies, Evil Dead, you know, 2, 2, and then Army Darkness, I just consume those. Like one week, watch them all.

22:36 Oh, cool.

22:36 I've seen the Evil Deads. Saw was a... The yearly mystery, the traps, the twists. When Hello Zet would play, like, oh man, what's going to happen? And then I went... So there's two things here, right? I think I will... So I still think I'm a bigger... Evil Deads, clearly. And you can make the argument the best horror franchise of all time. But Evil Dead, I think I... I like Saw... Here we go. I like Saw more than Evil Dead overall. Very crazy thing to say, but I do just with the lore and twists and turns. But I think I like 2013 better than the original Saw.

23:12 And this is where I went back and forth of Saw versus Saw 6. I'm a massive Saw 6 guy. I think they... find a good way to kind of recook the formula and add some new things. I think Saw for a while, and that's what happened with Five, got really stuck in doing the same thing. And that's why Six kind of was a disappointment box office-wise because I think people, yes, Paranormal Activity was popping off at the same time, but I think people are also just done with Saw where Six was finally adding some new things, some new stakes. I remember being like really enjoying that.

23:45 I think I'll still give the original Saw, because I still think the original Saw is probably the best one, right? I think it is. from a start to finish film. I think most people would glom onto that. I think it's easy for them to consume and it stands by itself. Right. And it gives us stuff. I do like Dr. Gordon and I do like, um, Adam, like I like the dynamic. It's, it's a rewatchable film, but also not, you need to like take some time because it is slow. So I've gone back and forth a lot of like, would I bump it for saw six? Could I put saw six in the 10 slot? I could, I guess I could put it that there, um, as a potential, but, yeah I just because if it's best then yeah Saw I think clearly clears Saw 6 but right now I'm very

24:30 like a 50-50 so to be safe I'm gonna pick Saw it's almost like when people pick Fellowship of the Ring and they go yeah but I really mean the whole trilogy it's almost like that's what I'm doing I'm like it's just Saw like all the Saws except for Jigsaw all the Saws right put them around there even Brook of Spiral sure I'll take you along copycat killer whatever yeah sure you come along for the ride Jigsaw, nah.

24:51 Jigsaw's a non-canon to me. I ignore, annoy Jigsaw. I annoy him. I ignore Jigsaw the movie. Did I ever re-watch it? Because I know I did some re-watches recently, so let me look. Let's see. Me as the best final girl. Hmm. I agree and disagree with the statement as the same time. I'm going to leave it at that. No, I'm not. I'll talk. I'm just going to see if I ever re-watch Jigsaw again. And I hate, too, the big reveal about Logan character. And I got a child named Logan. So it's obviously named after other things, right?

25:26 But when I just think of it, I'm like, ugh. It's a character I hate the most in Jigsaw. It's named Logan. Let's see. I did watch it again. Because I think the first time I watched it, it didn't have Letterboxd. Let's see. Show Activity. So I watched it three years ago. And I gave it one star on Letterboxd.

25:42 Because I think some of the traps were okay. Yeah, I don't know if I need to watch it again. But... So yeah, my dilemma was, is it Evil Dead or Saw? Which one do I prefer more? And then, what Saw am I going with? So I'm going to put Evil Dead at eight, and then I'm going to put, and that could change, because I've got to get this whole list because I put some of them, because even then, there's some that are tough, but I'm going to put Evil Dead at eight, and then I'll keep the original Saw there, and that's fine. I guess, because I've seen that argument before with Mia being the final girl, right?

26:19 I think for me, that's what makes an interesting argument that yes, she is the final girl. Absolutely. 100% obviously the whole climactic battles with her. It is her story. I think it's just interesting that she goes away in the middle of the movie. If not goes away as being a character, she's a huge force in that movie.

26:35 And technically you're kind of sit trying, you know, you're still trying to save her and she's around, but the brother takes over as the main character, right? To me, the final girl, it's, it's, it's odd because if you mean literal final girl, then yes. But if it's like the whore definition to me, that's like the, the female protagonist. We, we follow the full time, right? The Laurie Schrodes, the Sydney Prescott, the Nancy. I mean, I think I know Nancy's last name, those types. So I don't know what I have to think about those. Like I, she's definitely in the conversation, Mike, don't make her wrong. I think that's why for me, there's like an asterisk. It's like, she's one of my favorites, but can't be the favorite.

27:09 Cause she, She is in distress the whole movie, but she becomes the villain, right? To a point. So, but she's definitely a performance wise. Yeah, I think so. So, okay. So let me get rid of that there.

27:23 Okay.

27:23 So we've got the nine there. So, um, numbers.

27:27 Oh yeah.

27:31 I might have to go back around. Hang on. I think I got mine. I think I got my 10 and even then it might be higher. Um, yeah.

27:40 Yeah.

27:41 Yeah, because it could be higher than a couple of those. So I say it. I'm going to say it now. I just thought about it. I'll keep it honorable mention. But I love a good detective tale. I love dealing with serial killer detective tales. As I talk about many times, the idea of serial killers fascinated me when I grew up.

28:03 Just learning this concept, watching movies, hearing stuff like there's just these people that do this and why they do this and how are they. I'm like the fucking doctor and halloween 2018 i'm like i need to know what drives their fear and evil madness um to me the ultimate serial killer hunter movie and it's tough right i have another movie like this where it's like it's like the other movie i have is like just a hybrid movie this one is definitely more of a crime movie but i just feel like i gotta have it up there it's gotta be seven seven for me it's it's up there and you might like it's kind of crazy because i said oh science the lambs would be the best i might put seven in the best category as

28:39 well um And so some of it, oh, why would you do Silence over Seven? I just feel like I enjoy them both pretty close, but there's something about Seven. It's the Fincherisms. Fincher's on my Mount Rushmore. I love Fincher. Obviously, Pitt and Morgan Freeman are fantastic there. The colors, the looks, the vibes, the pacing of that fucking movie is so goddamn good. It just, like, it reminds me of Heat, where I don't even think Seven's that long because of how depressing it is. It feels long. But it's just you could watch it and watch it again. Now, obviously, the ending's a big bummer. So you do need a moment. Like, hey, I don't want to watch what happens at the end over and over again or just that reveal. But it's great.

29:18 So right now I'll put Seven at 10, but then I might switch him around a little bit. Maybe I'll keep it at 10 because I just thought about it. Because I thought of this movie and creating the craze of serial killers. But yeah, Seven's up there, man. And then, whatever you want to say, obviously bad revelations about this guy in real life, but the John Doe character is fucking... incredible.

29:41 It is, the performance is incredible, the writing of that character, the twists and turns, that is, he's up there with, like, the top ten, or, like, top villains. I should probably do that one year, just villains, not even counting the movie franchises. Again, that's kind of, like, I think that one's easier, because you always go with, hey, Michael, Jason, whatnot, but maybe do, like, a maybe like a top 20 or top 25, or maybe, I don't want to do March Madness for that, because I just know how that'll go, I'll think about that, but for me, John Doe is very high on just evil motherfuckers, and man, that makes him scary, you know, so, and again, that's probably one of the most beautiful looking films I have on this list,

30:18 so there you go, seven all the way back at ten, we'll see if he gets bumped, but number six, I gotta go with Screen, again, talking about Children's name, that's one reason why I gave the go-ahead for Sidney to be named Sidney and spelled that way. For me, Mike, Sidney is my favorite final girl. Now, other sequels have, luckily it hasn't lessened it, right? Because when I'm thinking of Sidney Prescott, I'm thinking of the trilogy with Wes Craven.

30:45 You might go, oh, well, he did a fourth one. It feels like more has come out over the few years where it sounds like, yeah, he didn't really want to do 4, but he didn't want anyone else directing it, and they offered to him, and the whole band got back together, so he did.

30:57 It, right?

30:57 And even 4 has some good things about it. I don't like the... I don't love the killer reveal, and I don't love the color palette and the Vaseline fucking filter it has over it, but as a film, it's fine. First Scream, though, obviously... it's what everyone says, right? It's that movie that is, like, the hipster movie, but it was the first movie, I feel like, that I saw, because I'm a 93 kid, so I'm growing up watching these movies, that was very much as far as, it was felt very smart, like, obviously, everyone says that, right?

31:33 But just, the first time you watch it, and this is me before, like, being on IMDB boards, being, talking to other film friends, like, this is a point in my life where, like, people aren't reading comic books, like, I love film, and I don't even know that right yet, I just, like, love watching movies, and this is the point where, sure, now it's probably, you know, over-exaggerating, everyone talks about it, but Scream really is one of the most smartest horror movies of all time, that script is airtight, Sid, it's fucking phenomenal, and the twists, the turns, what they do, and just seeing them reference other movies, and being in this kind of what not kind of, the fourth wall breaking world. I guess not, you know, playing with the

32:09 fourth wall, say. They never look at the screen and talk to you. But everything that that movie was doing at the time, and obviously I saw it years, not years later, but not when it came out. Because it came out in 96, right? Did I get 96 Scream? Yeah, Scream came out in 96, yeah. So obviously I probably saw it like, like... because i was three at that point i probably saw it around 2001 or two somewhere uh and just them talking about other movies like you might have like scooby-doo make a joke about another movie or something else but it was like oh i feel so smart i'm getting these references and i think that move and here's a good way to put it i don't think scream is the one contributor like the sole

32:53 contributor like oh that clicked it because for me it is still always The Dark Knight. Now, and what I guess I should say, just me being so invested in film and also wanting to make films and work on film stuff, which we're doing now, you know? Our film Adrenochrome, December 4th. We got lots of other stuff cooking. I know I say that. We do have lots of, like, feet in the fire. And I do want to explain at some point because I think, like, we post something and it's like, oh, is this for that one? I'm like, no, it's for a different one. I think some people are like, why do you guys got, like, four or five projects on the go? It's because, like, when we got locations and someone's about to move or we only got time

33:24 for anything, or time to, like, a timed exclusive to get it, we film there, because we don't got the fucking money to pay for all these sets, so it's like, hey, if we got a location, let's do this, same thing, there's things that I shot that's not coming out for a few years from now, talk to my sister, there you go, Myers-Boyd, my sister's in one of these movies, I'm like, when are you seeing this, she's like, when am I gonna see this, I like three to four years, I'm not ready to start making this yet, but we need this location, I live here, let's do it, all right, we're gonna do it, so, but So Dark Knight is definitely the light bulb here. I'm interested in this, want to do this, consume it. That's one of my lives,

33:56 one of my pillars. If it's my Mount Rushmore, it's what? It's my family, it's movies, comic books, wrestling. That would probably be it. I'm sort of video games, but that would be my one. Maybe comics and video games. I'd say they're kind of like sharing one, but just because of the effect comics had after the fact, comics would have to take it. But Scream is, if I were to make a Mount Rushmore of movies that propelled me to that. Scream might be on there for me because just the way it acted and the way it talked about cinema and horror, it felt like at a time before you meet the people that you host a podcast with or other friends or interest in film, it was that film friend where they're talking about these tropes and

34:35 these twists and these patterns you see in movies. And it is a super rewatchable movie. I know I just said that was seven. That's more of like a, oh man, I'm just in awe. I am in awe of Scream, but it is so fun. It's a grip and rip it. multiple, multiple great performances from everybody. This is one where there'd be another fun cast too to look at everybody, right?

34:55 Because there's times where it's like, with Mike saying, hey, Mia's the best final girl, I could accept, even though I have that asterisk, I could accept that and then I could talk about other ones. But that's a situation where it's like, okay, the rest of the cast is fine to good, like to okay, right? But it's about me and Jane Levy in that movie. In Scream, that whole fucking ensemble fucking rocks, right? I think Skeet Allrick is fine. I think it's more like he went a certain way with his performance and it just works out.

35:25 Billy feels a little cheesy, but Rose McGowan as Tatum is fucking awesome. Matthew Lillard. is, God, Stu, he's so goddamn fun in that movie. It's one of these things that you almost hate he's the killer because you'd want him to be on more adventures, but it's perfect because it's like, in these type of movies, those guys, at that point, it's like they were rarely the killer, right?

35:47 The very comedic friend, that would be like victim bait, right? You had Jamie, God, Jamie, oh, I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get it. I was gonna say Alexander, but that's a Thor girl. Oh, no, I'm going to search it up. It'll bug me the whole time. Scream Jamie Kennedy. Fuck. In the one of those ultimate, hey, perfect nerds in a movie. Is it Ricky? Not Ricky, right? Scream Jim Kennedy.

36:22 Hang on. Because I feel like Ricky is like one of the scary movie game names. Who is he play? uh randy randy yeah i think they named they named ricky's in one of the uh like i said the parodies um he's just like perfect in that role so again that's one thing that the screen movie has that a lot of times when these people like i'd say an evil dead 2013 when they get killed off they're brutal you don't want them to because they're innocent people but at the same time it's like oh man i lost this person something now on to the next one right with Scream, when Tatum died, that fucking sucked, you know, Scream 2, obviously a different movie, but when you lose Randy, it fucking sucks, you feel it, and I think, um, uh,

37:03 Neve Campbell is fantastic, she's my favorite final girl, um, you know, maybe next to Nancy, but still, if I had to pick, it's Sidney Prescott in those first three, Neve Campbell, and that's what's great about it, too, is some movies, you don't see that with the sequels, you see Sid progress. I think that's why it's one of the problems with the new movies because they had, like Sid got to her ultimate form in three of just like the fucking badass that's done with this shit and is going to take on Ghostface and has all the tricks in her up her sleeves, right? So that's a little tough to keep going. But yeah, Scream at number six of favorite. And that's when I definitely just, it's up there. Other than the top two, I think I've

37:38 probably seen this one the most because that's just like easy going. I think that's a good one for even non-horror people. It's like, yeah, I'll watch Scream because there's so much comedy in there and kind of some good And even just talking about movies and the structures of them, it makes people maybe be a little less scared and feel like they're in on it. So it's great stuff.

37:57 So number five, here's my hybrid. Way into retro at one time, so I won't speak too much on it. American Psycho, man. American Psycho, I have maybe actually... That's probably right out there with Scream, especially after I saw it the first time in my life. Because that's the same thing, right? I do think it had multiple things. Obviously, there's memorable scenes throughout that entire fucking movie. And again, what was the specific age? How old was Christian Bale in American Psycho? 25 years. Oh, my fucking God. And don't get me wrong. Of course, there's Anna Paquin, who's been nominated for an Oscar as a child. But to me, it's one of those like in wrestling when they're like, hey, you really hit your peak when you're 40. I feel

38:43 like actors are kind of like that. Maybe it's kind of like from that 30 to 40, not all the time, right? There's even now there's great actors in their 20s. So I'm not going to say it, but I feel like maybe back then it felt more like, oh, it was a craft. You learned it at 25. Not only at 25 is he's just fucking Adonis. Like that performance is one of my all-time favorite performances. I love the Patrick Bateman character. Obviously not cheering for him, but just the guy that just Riddled with so much sickness in his mind that you don't know what's real and what's not.

39:10 And I had read the book, like, I've only read it once. I read it after the fact a long time ago. So now watching the movie after, there is differences. But the Patrick Bateman character is such a fucking loon. And that's what I love about it is because you got the memorable scenes. You got the amazing performance. I could easily argue greatest horror performance of all time. bale is he's a stud he's incredible in that movie he should have been not he should have been at least nominated who won in 2001 for the oscar 2001 oscar winners let's see even nominations here Yeah, I know. People are not going to be with me here. Russell Crowe, Gladiator.

39:48 I get it. People are going to pick that. I would still pick Bale. So what was it? It was Crowe for Gladiator, Javier Bardem for Before Night Falls. I've never seen that movie. I've got to check that out. Tom Hanks for Castaway, Ed Harris for Pollock, and then Jeffrey Rice for Quills. Yeah, man, you could bump some of those. Even if you gotta bump Tom Hanks, that's fine.

40:14 Even though Castaway's great. I'll take that back. So, yeah, American Psycho. But what I was trying to get to, another touchstone of, not only does it have the darkness in there, not only does it have lots of interesting concepts with the male versus women dynamic, the rich versus poor dynamic, the sick and healthy mentally dynamic. There's a lot of those going on. It was, I think, my first movie of falling.

40:38 Or it's the first movie that stuck with me. And I've always said before, there's many reasons to love Breaking Bad, but I love a great story where you follow a gray character. Because a gray character can do anything given the right motivations, right? You've got an ultimate good guy, ultimate bad guy, then they're stuck on one path. But a gray character, you can lead to many great things.

40:57 You can lead to Walter White, who is this guy doing things for his family, trying to raise money, has cancer, all these reasons, all his life's gone down, his business... like the million billion dollar business was almost kind of taken away from him. But then here he is like poisoning a fucking kid. And you're like, man, I've been cheering for you for three seasons, four seasons. Like what are we fucking doing here, man?

41:16 You know?

41:16 But then you try, you like, you see what happens and you try to justify like, okay, he thought this was going to be okay. Like all that stuff. Right now, obviously Patrick Bateman is just a, not a great character. He's an evil character.

41:28 Right.

41:29 But it was the first time seeing something like that where the protagonist is not someone I'm necessarily rooting for to win or, be successful, right? And I'm sure there's definitely movies before that, right? Taxi Driver, but I saw American Psycho first. And Taxi Driver, that's a weird thing. I still wouldn't put it in the horror category. It could be, but that's more a psychological thrill. I think with how big American Psycho gets, that's why it's a horror movie. I gotta make this a bit quicker, because I gotta get out of here soon, and I got some lists to go over, too. Number four, if you're asking me... Now I'm gonna switch it. So five was American Psycho.

42:05 Number.

42:06 for The Conjuring. That would be a movie that's on both my lists, a best of and a favorite. I love the fucking Conjuring, man. I think that's James Wan. I do think it's James Wan at his best. Even though I got Saw there on the list already, Conjuring is something special. It does what I talked about with Scream, has multiple characters that you enjoy and root for, whether it's the Warrens, whether it's that family, the kids, great kid actors. So that helps the pacing and the buildup of that movie is great. you got fantastic jump scares, whether they're stuff in the corner that you just don't see, like, you know, like, in your peripheral, or, like, the fucking, I got the goosebumps right now, the fucking witch on

42:45 top of the wardrobe, when you just slowly, one of my favorite, you just slowly pan up, and you see her, at first you see her, no music snare, no big jump, and then it's, bah, I remember the theater being horrified, I don't know if I jumped, but that could have been maybe one of the last times that I did jump before, like, Obsession, which, obsession is not on this list, I'll tell you, if you don't think I'm building the obsession, no, I thought about it, I think it's too new, it's the same reason why, like, like, same thing with the Batman, I, like, I haven't put Batman on my top 10 list, because I still feel like it's still too new, same thing, reason why I haven't made my favorite movie, uh, I

43:19 still go back and forth, because I still think Dark Knight is a better movie, obsession needs more time, as far as, like, a best, I don't know about that, I have different categories, as far as best, that jump scare got me, favorites, Maybe one day, because watching it with Emily, I had a great time with it. So maybe one day in the future. But Obsession inspired this list, but it didn't get there. But jump scares, I'd put the Nikki in the Bedroom scare. That's a top 10 jump scare for me. Like I said, nothing. And everyone always talks about the car one. That didn't get me at all. That jump scare one, just because, like I mentioned in the review, I was thinking about a whole different way as far as how that was going to

43:51 work out, right? But Conjuring, I think it's perfect as far as has the jump scares, has the buildup, has the psychological horror. has the character motivations, characters you enjoy, has stakes, it looks great, sounds great. I don't actually think The Conjuring gets enough credit. I think The Conjuring's a movie. Not everybody, but I definitely think I know enough people, whether they're people I know or just some random user would. If I were to say, hey, Conjuring is a top 10 best movie of all time for horror, nah, not at all. That to me is asinine. I think it deserves to be in that conversation 100%. If it's not there for X, Y, and Z, great. But it should be in the conversation, in my opinion. The fucking

44:34 clap game. Come on now. That's some great stuff. All the trailers showed that. But yeah, the other ones never captured the height of that. But the first Conjuring, there's a reason why that franchise still does well. It's because people go back and watch that one. And I think it's just the best haunted house movie. movie per se, I'd have to think about, that's a specific genre I'll do next year, but it's fucking up there, so The Conjuring, yeah, great, I had this at four, but I swapped it, because I just feel that way, and I'm going with movies I watch more and more, and this is a movie I watch every year, if we're making the top ten favorite or best, whether it be best or favorite, this would be number one on both those lists for me,

45:14 I know that might be asinine, I know people are talking about Halloween, which I'll say is not on my list. I'm waiting to us to do Halloween as a retro because my cliff notes is I can't get into the full way. I had an experience that I watched my whole life. Love it. I still think it is one of the greatest horror movies made of all time. There's the vibe, the music, Michael Myers, everything, right? Just the feeling it gives you. But I remember a couple of years ago when I don't remember if it was last year or the year before. Me, Emily, we went to Taylor Mass. We saw it on the big screen. And I think there was a time where I saw Halloween, and then for many years I watched it just around in the background. And this was what I really watched

45:56 because it was back on the big screen. And there was multiple things. I was like, huh. This doesn't work for me X, Y, and Z. So I'll wait until we do the retro. That's why it's on the honorable mention. Even best, even with my issues, it might have to be on there because what it does, it does very well, right?

46:15 It's a trendsetter, but for me, the Halloween movie is fucking trick-or-treat. The reason is because I think it just encaptures everything. Halloween does that, right? But it's not. What I like about Halloween is the vibe of anything can happen. Monsters and ghosts and ghouls out there. I love anthology movies, so that's another thing. I think it just is a perfect encapsulation of the spirit of Halloween. The look, the vibe.

46:38 I can't smell the movie, but I smell it. It has great twists and turns, great performances. It hits on a bunch of stuff of real-life killers, monsters, couples. Sam is an amazing character. It has a great finale by Brian Cox. There's a bunch of people in this that are, you know, Dylan Baker, Leslie Bibb. There's just small actors that bring so much to it. Trick or Treat is a delight. I watch it every year for Halloween. I can't wait. We're going to watch that tomorrow night. And yeah, Trick or Treat is in the three. Number two, and these are easy. I'm not going to spend too much time on them because... Same one time we're going to retro them, and then we've already retro ones back on the feeds, but people know these already for me. Number two,

47:19 Nightmare on Elm Street. When people ask me, I got a 1A and a 1B with my number one, but Nightmare on Elm Street, what can I say? Talk about earlier, I fucking love Freddy Krueger. That's my guy as far as horror movie villains because ultimate villain, disgustingly scarred. He's looking like a monster. He's a child killer and more.

47:40 And not only that, he can get you in your fucking dreams. He's going to make fun of you. He's brutal. He's teasing you. He's just, to me, out of all the scenarios of like, hey, because Mike gave us that God game, but this wasn't part of it, just like out of all the scenarios, if I could pick and horn him, he's what you would not want to be a part of. He's definitely up there. I think he's number one for me. A nightmare where you have no control. Now, obviously, you might be, oh, I can control. Sure. Maybe that happens.

48:05 You get around to it. But in the meantime... That's fucking scary, and Robert Englund is incredible as the character. Number one is still my favorite. I know there's New Nightmare. I know there's three. I think those are valid answers. April, I know you would say number two. Not enough people say that, so get back. Get back.

48:23 Get back.

48:25 Number one to me is, again, I always lean to the more darker side, and Freddy is still funny in that movie. When he has his fingers and he cuts them, and they go away, and they start to juice out, he's like... Like, he's still a little fucker, you know? Like, he still has that evil, mischievous in him. It's just more of the serious note. But I love the mystery.

48:45 I love the buildup. I love the imagery, whether it is him poking through the wall, the big arms. Yeah, Nightmare on Elm Street, I think that's the one that just, because of how serious it is, I gleam on that a bit more. And then number one, I talked about this. We re-released the episode this month. I've talked about this many times. I talked about this earlier today. My boy, Mr.

49:09 Jack Torrance, The Shining. I just remember seeing that movie. Again, that was like 2002, 2003. And I was always a big Jack Nicholson guy. Jack Nicholson is a part of so many languages. in my life. Batman 89, The Departed, which changed my whole view on how I viewed film. And then this. And this was a film that, don't get me wrong, I think if I would have made this list, because I think even when, it's on my top ten films as well, even when I starred the podcast, I think it was on there, but not as high.

49:37 But it is a movie that I return to and watch again and again. Obviously, everyone check the doc room 237. Not because of that. It was already like up there. But all the theories and everything, that's great and adds to it. So that's another layer. But I just love the movie in general. I fucking love, again, the pacing.

49:55 The pacing where, hey, that first 45 minutes, it's slow. But I love it. It's like a fucking crockpot. It's slow. It's slow. but it's cooking. And when it all boils up, man, is it going to pop off and you're going to have a great time. I love everything about this movie, the look, the feel, the design, the overlook hotel. Um, you know, Danny's doing his best as a child actor. That's, he can't compare the conjuring kids or whatnot, but it works for him being like a little off. I'd say, cause Danny should be a little off. I think a Shelley Duvall is amazing as Wendy. It's, it's like the performances we talked about, like Florence Pugh or Mia goth, like, She's doing that in this time. That's a performance because

50:34 Jack always gets the limelight, which I understand. He's a driving force to that movie, but Shelley Duvall deserves as much praise. But my guy there, Jack Nicholson, like I, I love him in that movie. I love all the little like inclinations of just, I can't remember if I was watching interview of Stanley said it or Nicholson said that, or maybe I'm getting conflated. It's from the books. I have read the book and Hey, I like the movie better.

50:59 I'm sorry. I do. And I know King hates the movie, and I get his point, especially the Jack character. I don't think he ever envisioned it to be that evil. It's more like the drinking and the ghosting advantage. I get that. And even then, I don't think Jack torrents the guy out of the hotel's evil, per se. I think there's some of that in him, and it just enhances it, whether it's by choice, whether it's the drinking, or whether it's something that was passed down. There's something there, right?

51:24 But either the idea... Um, where would Dr. Sleep ring? I thought it's an honorable mentions, Mike. So it's definitely in the top 20. I'll take a look in a second, but it's up there. Um, I love Dr. Sleep, but I'm excited to watch that. Cause I got the 4k version this year. Emily got me that for Christmas last year, so I can't wait. But the idea it's to me, Jack, cause I remember seeing Spielberg, he was like, Oh, he felt like he was very cheesy to me. I don't think at all. I think it's layers on layers with Jack Nicholson. And the quote was that, you know, Jack, like, almost the idea he had, or like I said, I can't remember where I'm getting this. Maybe it's a Mandela effect, but it's the idea of like, Oh, he had a

52:02 one night stand when, when he knocked her up, but he's a guy in this era. So he did the right thing and married her, did all this. And even if it wasn't, that's what happened. It was like, that's the way Jack played it and took it in. And when you watch his, just his every time when, when he's around his little facial reactions and the thing he'll do.

52:18 And that's to every, every character, um, There's always something going on. I love the theory that Jack like Torrance knows he's like being washed and moving. That's why he's always looking at the screen. And it does feel like he's putting on this performance. And then at the end, when you do the whole revelation of, you know, he was a caretaker in that photo and it's like, okay, did it just absorb him in there? Maybe. Or was he a guy that was actually there in this house?

52:39 Just pulling him to it.

52:40 Right.

52:40 When he says that of like, I feel like I know every turn in this. And this is what I love. He does like... He still talks to Wendy at times. I shouldn't be talking because we did the retrospective. I did a whole review of this movie. So it's on our feeds now. But when he's talking to Wendy, there's genuinely...

52:55 I feel like I've been here my whole life. And I turn around these corners and I've never felt so good. And he's actually talking with Wendy. And there's only one time he puts his arm around her. But it's not just Jack. Jack is a high point because I think you needed his ferocity in the movie. But everything... the looks, the pacing as far as the dates and the days, the finale, the score is fucking, I should have mentioned the score of a few of these movies, but the score is fucking incredible, that theme, they use some other orchestra music that's not even made for the movie, and there's a few tracks I can't even pronounce, it's, yeah, to me, it is a masterpiece, there's movies that I might love that are 10 out of 10, just because

53:37 I drop a perfect 5 or 10 on a movie, Does not mean it's a masterpiece. That's just my enjoyment levels, a 10. Shining Me is a 10 out of 10 masterpiece. I fucking love the movie so much. I could watch that every week. It's just, it is just really something special with everything going around with it, and just the location, the claustrophobic vibes. Scatman Crothers is amazing. So, yeah, if you want my more in-depth thought, we did the review of The Shining, and it's on there. Yeah, where would Dr.

54:05 Sleep rank? I had it there. My honorable mention's I talked about The Evil Dead. I had Saw VI now. I had Doctor Sleep. I had Pet Sematary as well, but Sematary almost made it in. I don't think it's like the strongest movie, but it's definitely a favorite. It's like a, it's a go-to Halloween popcorn movie. Fucking, what is it? God, Zelda. That fucking scared the shit out of me, man. Zelda's scary as hell. But yeah, Doctor Sleep.

54:34 I would say it's top... I don't re-watch as much as The Shining, because I think there's great... I think Ewan's great, and I think Ferguson's really great, but I also don't think they compare to Duvall and Nicholson, where even if you take out the content of the movie, their performances are just incredible to watch, especially when they're together, right? So, yeah, that's why it's just not a favorite, because I just don't re-watch it enough. I can watch The Shining without watching Doctor Sleep. I like to, and now that I own it, I'll probably always do that. But The Shining for Halloween is like, oh, I have to watch The Shining.

55:06 You know, I gotta watch it once a year. Where Doctor Sleep, I didn't watch last year, even though, like, I didn't have the 4K, I guess, but, like, I just didn't get around to it. Um, I think I watched it a couple years ago with Emily, and she really enjoyed it as well. But, uh, yeah, so I, it'd be made in the 20 realm, so it still ranks pretty high, but, uh, Yeah, I think so, because I had an honorable mentions. I was going to say, is it going to be 30? I don't know, because there's lots of sequels, too, that I might put above it.

55:28 That's just like a Saw VI, a Nightmare on Elm Street III. But it's good. All right, let's read some of the patrons' lists, and then we're going to get out of here. And then, yeah, I guess I've got to go watch Dexter. Dexter, can I speak to you for a moment? Let's see here. Okay, so Mike just asked a question. Mike is in the chat. So look at that. His number 10, he's starting off with The Shining.

55:54 I like that a lot. So, you know, no pushback there. Number nine, this is a good one.

56:01 Alien.

56:01 I think that for me is on a best list. I guess that's my favorite because I feel like Alien for me is like a nice meal that I have like every couple years make for myself, but then I don't watch it all the time. But for the best, I think it's up there. But again, I can see why that's on the list. Nosferatu. Are you talking about the Eggers one, or is there the older one? The Eggers one, that almost to me would be like the, what is it? Fuck, what did I just say? Obsession, like, might be too new for me, but Nosferatu is pretty high.

56:30 Nosferatu is pretty great. Seven, Don't Breathe. Yeah, you're a big Fetty guy. Yeah, I could, yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't be, honestly, it wouldn't be the least of the 10, but I can see how you'd have that. I have that maybe probably a bit lower. I'm not sure if that's just because the sequel hurt it a bit for me, but Don't Breathe is a fantastic movie, Cabin in the Woods, that's a nice gem right there, that's a good one, Alien Romulus, let's see here, yeah, the Eggers one, yeah, I thought so, just confirming, but yeah, and I'd be with you, Alien Romulus, The Thing, which I gotta start, I gotta finish that, I was 10 minutes in, and I stopped a couple weeks ago, and then I had other things to watch, so yeah, that's what I need

57:07 to just see more in my life, I don't think I've seen it enough, I've seen it, but it's even been a while since I watched it last, so I don't know if it's one of those movies that's just not one of my favorites. It's definitely really good, but I, I need to watch it again. Cause it's been a bit and, uh, um, this movie sometimes change your life, you know? So I get that thing. Cause I consider it, I think like, I think I consider it like a 10 out of 10 type of movie, right? Like I super enjoy it. I guess just all those movies, right?

57:34 I think we have those movies that we can say, Hey, that is a 10 out of 10. And I really enjoy it, but it's just not in the, the echelon list list, right? So, 30 Days and Nights. I don't think I've ever seen that all the way through, and I've always wanted to give it a shot, because again, I've told you this wasn't a big Josh Hartnett guy, so I'm going to give it a shot. So I like in lists when we have ones that are like, hey, not on everyone's list, perfect. I like that. And then he tops it off with Evil Dead 2, and then number one, Evil Dead 2013. I respect it. 2013, Evil Dead 2, those are great. Again, I go Evil Dead 1, but Evil Dead 2 is so incredible. It's so kind of just like it sounds cheesy, but like revolutionary in

58:14 like an independent horror comedy sort of way. I remember being frightened when Ash turns into a deadite at the beginning as a kid. I was like, fuck man, that fuck man. When he is in the puddle and he pops in, fuck me up. I remember seeing that late, late night at my grandma's and just being like, what the hell? Luckily the movie got more comedic, but at the time I was like, what the fuck am I about to watch? And I do feel like I think I saw, to start, I think I saw Evil Dead 2 first and then got to Evil Dead 1, so it fucked me up, but yeah, good list, I like that, I like seeing Three Days and Night there, even though I haven't seen it in full, I like a little surprise there, okay, so we go to April of Darkness,

58:52 you know, of Darkness, so it's gotta, gotta, gotta have a good list here, right, let's see, Train to Busan, I gotta, I gotta check that one out still, that's my bad, Taya's been telling me for years to check that out, and you say that too, which I like your number nine coming up, but you've said that too, it's just on the list, and again, as I always said with foreign films, the older I get, I just need more time, and I always, I'm running out of time.

59:17 It's because those films I have to extra focus, right? When Evil Lurks, I can vouch for that. Also, it could have been my favorite, just saw it a couple weeks ago, but definitely, if people have not seen When Evil Lurks, and Mike, I think you definitely, needing to get on that. It's not the exact same as evil dead where, Oh, it's dead. I take over.

59:33 No, no, no.

59:33 But it's like in that realm, it's definitely more of the evil dead 2013 rise. Even the first one scenario where it is the darker stuff. But if you're a big evil dead fan, if you, I think as you have 13 at number one, I think you don't, you're not just into like the comedic evil dead, right? If you're just in the evil code dead, that's a comedy side.

59:52 If that's your favorite, you don't care for the dark ones, then no, But if you like them all, especially the dark ones, When Evil Lurks, definitely check it out. It was an incredible movie. Oddity, I like you having that on there. I just watched that again this year. I'll see. I talked about Emily was scared. She said, that's the scariest thing we watched this year, she said. The Lost Boys, that's a fun, like that's a perfect favorite one, right?

1:00:15 To me, that's a popcorn bucket one. I watched that, I mean, I watched it a couple years ago. I was like, you know what? I don't know if it held up as good as I remembered, but in the, hey, let's watch a fun Halloween movie, definitely holds up in that aspect, let's see here, my fucking shit's bugging out, there we go, Alien, so you got Alien as well, love it, Army Darkness, yeah, you've talked about how that's your favorite there, The Orphanage, I gotta go back, I watched The Orphanage only once, what, did they come out six or seven, yeah, 2007, again, that was in the, right, Jay Bayona did that, that was in the era of 2006, I watched The Parted, my world wakes up, and I go, okay, on IMDb, What are the most like film? Like you

1:00:55 got to watch this. You should watch that. So I haven't seen that a long time, but that's it. I like that one. That's a good one up there. Scream. Yeah. I'm with you there. Midsommar. Yeah. Um, yeah, I didn't have any Ari Oster in there. I like, I like, I'll say I like that you have, I'm not going to say if you had, if you had like the, one of the worst Texas chance on movies, I wouldn't like hold it against you, but I like that variety there. Yeah, I don't know where I would watch. Definitely one of my favorites, but it's great. It's a weird-ass movie. It's a good one, so I won't say I'm a defender.

1:01:26 I think lots of people like it, but I like seeing it there. And then number one, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. She's always stood by that. That's one of those movies, because I even listened to a podcast the other day, and they were talking about movies they had saw just in the Halloween vein, and someone was like, oh yeah, and then when I saw it, that really fucked me up.

1:01:40 I can't deal with stuff like that, and I was like, ah, really? Like that's one that never, it's definitely disturbing and dark. Don't get me wrong. But like the way people talk about it, I've never felt that way in both ways, as far as the quality, as far as like loving it. And then I've never felt that way about, um, it is like a, that fucked me up sort of.

1:02:00 Movie, right?

1:02:00 Like, oh, that's just so messed up. That's like, no, I don't know. Maybe it's because I saw it like later. Um, yeah, I don't know. It just, I never had that same I guess appreciation for it.

1:02:11 Right.

1:02:11 But I, I actually, I wouldn't say that I appreciate it. Cause I never had that same, um, liking of it. So, uh, yes, David Slade directed a lot of handle episodes. Oh yeah. I remember, I remember, I remember seeing that name. Cause those just sounds like a fucking wrestler's name. Right. Uh, let me see here. That, um, where am I? Okay.

1:02:33 So yeah, number one, Texas chainsaw massacre. Okay. As buzz, I haven't updated my list in quite a while, but here's what I have according to letterbox.

1:02:39 Okay.

1:02:40 Uh let's see whoa there's some s bobs okay what is okay first he's and it let's see because april mike had his numbered and then everyone else does not have them numbered i know april loves texas chainsaw so i'm gonna assume that's a numbered list but everybody else other than uh mike you could assume maybe they're not uh they're not ranked deep rising what a poll I want to know a story like 1998. This is out of your age bracket. I don't think I've fully ever seen this movie. Newly unveiled Ocean Linear sets out on the first cruise only to encounter dangers both on the broad and in ocean depths while the beautiful thief Trillian attempts to steal riches from the boat's wealthy passengers. The

1:03:28 ship encounters major problems. Notably, a giant murderous sea creature with tentacles. Hmm. Femke Jensen, I like that. I don't even want to click on it and find. I don't want to click on it and even see. Deep Rising, I like that. I don't think I've seen that in full. So he's got Deep Rising. Got Yield Dead 2013. That seems to be a recurring theme here at Geekverse. Got Alien. Okay, so Alien's now come up also every time. So there you go. American Psych. Okay, nice. We share that. I like that. Which I don't think a lot of people put.

1:04:02 Scream 6. That was the one where I said, interesting. Scream 6. It'd be different if you had both screams on here, but you got Scream 6, huh? Isn't that the one I fucking hate? Scream 6. Yeah, that is the one. That's the... Interesting. I know I've heard you talk about it before, so I know why. That's a why.

1:04:22 And again, I'll preference. I don't hate it. I went back and watched it. I just really don't like the third act, so it kind of soured me on the whole movie, but that's interesting. Okay, so Halloween, which also is that... April didn't have Halloween and neither did Mike. So that's the first Halloween appearance. You got that. New Nightmare. Yeah, I know you're a big New Nightmare guy. Attack the Block. Yeah, I need to check that one out. That's always been on my list. Army of Darkness and Evil Dead 2.

1:04:46 So look at that. Four Evil Deads. That's about a big Evil Dead guy.

1:04:49 So there you go.

1:04:50 Four of them on there. Honorable mention to Scream 3, of course. Even the black and white producers cut.

1:04:55 Yeah, I remember.

1:04:56 That was a good time. When that came out and we talked about it, that was fun. So let's see. So Maddie, I'm going to read this first to give you some preference here. because you put a list in your paragraph. It says, keep in mind this is my favorites list, not best, yeah. My favorite is a mixed bag.

1:05:10 Some stuff I watched during my childhood, so it made a mark on me, and I've loved it ever since. Like, I won't say which one. Others are just all-time classics for me, and others are more modern that I instantly love and just grew to love or appreciate on rewatches. A key factor for me when choosing favorites is rewatchability.

1:05:26 I can rewatch these movies at least once, if not multiple times per year and never get old. The one oddball, I'll read that off because after when I do your list. But I agree, Maddie. For me, like the rewatchability is a high factor in that. To me, if you're on a favorite list, I got to be able to watch it anytime and not get sick of it and tired of you. And that's how my top 10 list is, right?

1:05:51 Let's see. Did this top 10, did this off the cuff? So I'm sure I missed some that I didn't think of that my list may change from a day from now. See, this is what inspired this. Maddie says, at number 10, Obsession. It might be too soon, but I already watched it four to five times. Super in a short span, so it's already extremely rewatchable. I agree that, for me, it is rewatchable. I've only seen it twice, but it is a movie that, like, okay, it's fun, has good comedic breaks, has some fun shots. I love the concepts. I love the concept of what happens with Nikki. Great performance, obviously, by Indy Navarrete. So I agree with you. It could be.

1:06:24 I didn't do it because it's too soon, but I respect you for putting it on there. Psycho, the original, Hank. That's interesting. I really enjoy the original Psycho, but, like, that's one where it's like I watch and, like, I need some time away from, right? Not because it's depressing, but it's, like, a very slow pace. But, you know, Anthony Perkins is great there. So, hmm. I dig it. Nice.

1:06:44 You got flavors, Jason? I like that. Texas Chainsaw 2003. Saw the original. This one was crazy because I rated the movie today and I saw you gave it. Halloween 2018. I saw you gave that a 4.5 out of 5. And then you're, because you said also, this is what you were alluding to, the one oddball case is 2018 Halloween.

1:07:05 As I was actually super underwhelmed when I first saw it in theaters, but oddly enough, it has really grown on me and more and more over the years. I now already watch it every October unapologetically, really enjoy it. I love that. That's great. I, Halloween 2018 for me could have been like a, your score. It very much was on the way. I'm not a big fan of the third act. There's certain comedic beats that, I remember, I agree with you, Matty, it is, and I don't know if it's because the other trilogy is wonky, but I looked at my Letterboxd score today, and I gave it a 3.5. I bumped it up to a 3.5.

1:07:36 There you do some great things in there. I remember being so hyped. Things are going to be like Force Awakens-level Halloween, and that's how I was for the first half of the movie. It's like, oh, they fucking did it. This is perfect. I've gone through a wave of watching it, being disappointed, and then sitting at it for a while, and I think I have liked it more on each watch.

1:07:53 Not as high as you to the four. I don't think I'd ever get to the four because of some choices. But it is really good. And it ranks high in the Halloween franchise. The trilogy is different. But that solo movie by itself, it does. So some great visuals too. The original Halloween. So there you go. Okay, you got that.

1:08:09 Because S-Pops had that, right? Yeah, the original Halloween. And the original Scream. Oh, right. He said this in no particular order.

1:08:17 So there you go.

1:08:18 Midsommar. And then I love this pick of The Invitations. 2015. That's the one with Lowe, or what's his name? Fucking, yeah, Logan Marshall Green. Really good. If you've not seen The Invitation, God, is that streaming anywhere? I gotta look it up. If you've not seen The Invitation, really good. Because that's a movie too where, I felt like that year of 2015, not everybody was talking about it, but there was a group of people like, oh, you gotta really see. It feels like what's happening with the cycle right now, right?

1:08:46 Where it felt like more people kept seeing it, seeing it, and I finally watched it. And I was like, yeah, this movie fucking delivered. It's really good, really fucked up, has some interesting perspectives in there. Yeah, it's uh and the ending man i think we talked before the ending of that movie that's another thing i should have said to a favorites you gotta have a good ending and the ending of that movie is like that sits with you so yeah the invitation i love seeing that on there i gotta give that another go i gotta i've only seen the one time but it did stick with me and no reason for like oh yeah it's a good movie but i don't need to see it again no i really enjoyed it so yeah i should watch

1:09:18 it again i Yeah, I don't know where it's streaming, but there you go. That's my top 10. That's some of your top 10. And like I said, I don't think I'll be back next week. I'll be on some other cast. Thank you very much for listening to After Effects. I hope everyone has a great, happy Halloween. If it's the last time you hear from me, I promise when you hear from me next, it will not be boring.

1:09:36 Mwah.