VisionQuest Predictions : GV 723 Highlight

0:00 To that another time because that might take us for a little bit. We'll end on the general here. So, oh, fuck. Oh, my God.

0:06 Breaking news.

0:08 No.

0:08 We've got ten trailers to watch, boys.

0:10 We didn't do Vision Quest predictions.

0:14 Well, we've got to circle back.

0:15 Oh, no.

0:34 Fucking Harry Styles, Chris Pine videos we gotta pull up. It's fucking Taylor doing an impromptu chat GPT link up.

0:41 And now the cutouts I've written down for Kirkland, they're so fucked up now because I don't know where with this fucking Chris thing. I gotta edit Marvel Alliance after this fucking hell.

0:50 Okay. If people haven't picked up on, it's Kirkland's night to do the newscast.

1:01 Cutouts is the longest edit to do. But Taylor did last week, and I did Monday. So it is Kirkland's turn for cutouts.

1:10 Oh, God. When's the next newscast? Let me just see here.

1:16 We got.

1:18 When does Vision come out? Is it next week? Yeah, it's next.

1:24 Week.

1:25 What kind of predictions would there even be?

1:27 Like, quick fire.

1:28 Like, we can do 30 seconds. Who dies?

1:30 No one's dying.

1:31 I guess I just feel bad because the episode lasts when me and Dylan had this.

1:35 And Dylan's like, yeah, I haven't seen anything. Like, I don't know what to... Like, it would just be me listening to you. So I'm like, oh, I'll kick it on Thursday because, like, the boys will be talking about it. And now we've got all these rants and stuff. Yeah, sure. A quick... Okay. We'll rapid-fire this. We're... I guess, Taylor, quickly.

1:54 We're one week away. Just an easy one. You excited for this? Yes. Okay. Kirkland, you excited?

2:01 Yeah.

2:03 I'm getting more excited. The wheels are starting to roll. It's starting to happen. Where is Vision going to be? Taylor, what are you actually most looking forward to in this series?

2:15 Uh.

2:16 uh tommy what's his name yeah the other son yeah the other.

2:20 Son i'm excited for the other son because i was watching a clip that was showing the the end of agatha which i downloaded a few like the agatha soundtrack tunes because it's great halloween music it's it's pretty awesome like witch's road and stuff like that but anyways uh just you get the parallels so you have the parallel of wiccan with agatha And then you have him going through and seeing what's happening with his brother. And then it's paralleling to the scene with Tommy. Just kind of like, I'm feeling someone else's fucking life in me. You know, shit like that.

2:54 Yeah.

2:55 I heard something.

2:55 I know you heard. But that's who you're looking most forward to is Tommy? Yeah.

3:01 You mean cool costumes?

3:03 I would say, yeah, you'll probably get the classic finale costume gimmick. I'm excited for that. I am legitimately excited because I think we all said at the end of WandaVision with SnowVision, this guy has all these thoughts, but he didn't go through them. What is that going to do to him? And I'm very curious where he's been, what he's been doing, how he took that in. And I am also very excited to get Ultron back. Yes, it's going to be also James Spader and HumanWise, but I'm excited to see what we could do there. and have it in a longer form, because I liked, got James Sparrow's quote about that this week, where he said, you know, last time I played Ultron, that was a service to the Avengers story, where this is an Ultron story,

3:39 along with Vision, right? So I'm like, okay, I like that as a pitch, and this is kind of like the closing out of this trilogy of WandaVision and Agatha and this, so I am like, I think I'm actually more excited than I originally, even just a couple minutes ago, thought, just because there is, yeah, Tommy, and there's Ultron, and then yeah, what is, how is Vision... dealing with everything going on, and why is he not being super or doing anything?

4:02 Why do they say trilogy when this is the fourth project?

4:05 In what?

4:07 In the Wanda trilogy.

4:09 Well, you have WandaVision, Agatha, and Vision, the trilogy.

4:12 Of two shows. Multiverse of Madness, though.

4:13 I don't think they're counting that, though. No? Really? Because it's not the same creative team. That's why. Oh, okay. And if you remember, there is a lot of... Elizabeth Wilson supposedly... I don't know. I can't say she wasn't happy, but it sounded like I know Sam didn't watch it, and it's not like the writers didn't watch WandaVision 8 either before they wrote that movie.

4:33 Oh, really?

4:34 Yeah.

4:35 Well, that's just poor fucking planning.

4:37 Yeah, you would think so, right? That's coming from someone that likes Multiverse of Madness, but you would think that you would have, that would be like a must. But that's the way the MCU works, right? You have to shoot, you're on schedules, there's budget, so you don't have time, right? And that's why, even then too, I remember that story where Hemsworth was explaining to the Russos what they were doing on Ragnarok when they were talking about Thor he was like oh well on Ragnarok we're doing this type of hero Thor and we're doing this and we're having a lot of fun there so they had no clue they were like oh cool I guess we'll incorporate some of that good for you yeah it's our fucking movie

5:08 though Kirk what was you most excited for for Vision.

5:14 I really liked the last trailer I feel like my hype on the show was pretty lukewarm but the last trailer definitely boiled it up a little bit to a rolling boil I think I'm just reminded about how interesting the character of Vision is. James Spader, I hated him as Ultron just because it was just James Spader's voice as Ultron.

5:35 He sounded like a robot.

5:36 Him in the human form, I'm like, this is awesome. I like it. It's going to be weird. It's going to be heady. He's totally going to be fucking with the psyche of Vision. I know it's not going to be the same, but I'm hoping for a little bit of the mental mind trip or mind trippery that uh if i can make it up words now it's getting late uh that that wandavision had of course where there's just some weird stuff going on i imagine this show will have at least sprinkles of that um i'm hoping i really like the character of tommy i really like billy so um yeah i i think i think this will be a fun time i'm gonna be pretty disappointed if if it's if that's not the case if it is just very bland i long episodes too right away.

6:18 I don't think there's a runtime under 46 minutes, so I don't think we're going to have the classic where it's like 21 minutes on the credits. And I guess we forgot to talk about they've revealed that the first three weeks are going to be double batches, and then Episode 7 and 8 will be singles, the penultimate and the finale. So we will be reviewing those off-scene, the batches.

6:38 And I thank them for, as I joked in the Discord, for getting that out before GTA, because there's a couple weeks that we're going to have it. And I was really worried, too, the weeks that they overlap with Rings. It's just one episode of Vision. I'm like, fuck, is there going to be one episode of Vision and Rings?

6:52 I was like, fuck, there's going to be a night where we're going to watch three Lord of the Rings and two Visions in one night. I'm like, god damn, what's going to happen there? But crisis averted. So we.

7:06 That would have been me on my second episode of Rings.

7:08 Ladies and gentlemen, when you get the bloopers in like two or three years for our third film, there's a good time with Kirkland and that clip there. My eyes still hurt thinking about that. My God, yeah, some good stuff. What is the fate of Ultron when the series ends? Is he out back in the wild, ready to be a villain in a movie, a series, or is this like the programmed elite finally for Ultron?

7:33 I hope he lives. I think that'd be fucking dope. I think he's a sweet character. I mean, my, my lowest point on Ultron was the age of Ultron. I think I, you won't get to what if Ultron, that's what you, yeah, like I, like I didn't like the James Peter casting for it. Uh, I think the movie overall is just weaker amongst like that, especially that era of the MCU.

7:54 Like that was like, he's the weakest Avengers movie too.

7:57 Oh yeah, for sure.

7:57 Um, maybe until December. We'll, we'll see.

8:01 We'll see. What If was really crazy and exciting, and especially, like, I just thought that character was just totally gone. That was, like, a whole next level of the character. Obviously, he's Infinity, Ultron, which is just an insane pairing. I don't think we're going to be getting that in the live action, but I think there's a lot of, like, a lot of juice that you can use with this super powerful character, and he doesn't necessarily... Especially the other villains that we've had since him. He's not even the strongest by any means, but I think he would be a fun one to bring back because he's a familiar face, familiar character. So yeah, I hope he lives on. Do I think that's happening?

8:39 I'm like 50-50 split. I would love to be surprised, but I feel like part of me is like, I don't know. They're just going to do this. He's going to be deleted, and then that's just going to be that. It'll be like the final closing of the chapter of Vision's history of like yeah Ultron now like he's this new version he's gonna be moving forward.

8:56 It's also tough in a post Secret Wars Doomsday world right because if there is like a mini reboot like is it is there's two ways you'd be like hey in this new rebooted universe we'd like Ultron to stick around and we could have some fun there or it's like let's leave that in the past because we kind of want to like where they're gonna be some carryover obviously right but it's like yeah Ultron was kind of like a you know pre X-Men Fantastic Four universe thing it's like and it's where I'm I think I'm exactly with you where I'm a 50-50 I feel like in this show they're gonna do the like the snap and get rid of them for now but it's like it's comics you always bring back or same thing if you reboot it like if the universe gets semi-rebooted could not

9:32 another scientist be working on an Ultron you know like remember in the calm books it was Hank Pym that created them what if when we get to the rebooted universe we get like a new actor playing Hank Pym and he's younger and he's like oh I got this fucking idea for this robot and you know and what if they don't have the memories Ultron I don't know it's it's tricky situation so But yeah, I think he's also toast. I think that's going to be Vision's big moment of like, I've fucking achieved spiritual. I can touch you now. Yeah. What about you, Taylor? Is he altering in the big sleep or is he back?

10:12 I mean, when you look at the manifestation, the kids were able to come out of there because Wanda used her magic. And so Ultron just can be non-existing in the real world, I don't think. I think he's just going to be present in the mind of Vision this whole time, like the devil on his shoulder kind of a thing.

10:30 What about the twins though, right? They weren't real until they are now, right?

10:33 They are now, but that was with the help of Wanda. So I don't see there being a time where Wanda helped... Wanda isn't around now, so how can Wanda manifest Ultron out of nothing, right?

10:45 One, we don't know if she's not around, so you got that. Two, you got her son, Wiccan. You never know what he's been up to.

10:52 Do you think Wiccan's going to be in here?

10:53 I guess it's two different questions. Do I actually think he has something to do with Ultron? No. Do I think Wiccan's in here? Yes.

11:01 I hope he is. I want Wiccan to get a little bit more attention.

11:07 Yeah.

11:08 Hmm. But is Ultron going to actually die, though?

11:12 Yeah.

11:14 I think this will seal the deal and he'll die. But what I want is for him to stick around. I'd love there to be a version of him that he gets all the Infinity Stones and he's looking like the what-if version. You know, he's just souped up, right?

11:26 Yeah. Maybe when we get to, like, phase 22 and we're six years old talking about this.

11:31 Like, he listened to Tom. You know, he went for that pitch.

11:34 He's risen. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so you talk about Wiccan. Is there any other characters from the MCU that you think could be in this Taylor Field? Agatha. Like Agatha?

11:45 Yeah. Ghost form, specifically.

11:49 She's just back alive. Like Ghost Jedi. Force Ghost.

11:52 Aubrey Plaza.

11:55 I like Plaza. Who would Deathbead have to do with Vision here?

12:00 Well, the kids, right?

12:01 Wiccan? Well, yeah, but like, I don't know. I don't think here. I think we're getting more. I think Wiccan's going to tie into things, but I don't think we're getting too magical here. I think we're getting more tech-based. More tech-based? I think if you bring Aubrey Plaza's death, that's a whole other coat of paint, you know?

12:18 Yeah, that's true. Well, hmm.

12:21 Downey, you know? He created him.

12:24 Jarvis. That would be pretty wild to put Downey in there. But maybe Ironheart.

12:33 You never know. What would she be doing in season two?

12:37 Get out of here.

12:38 Get out of here with that.

12:40 I got nothing.

12:44 Jesus.

12:46 God.

12:48 I got nothing.

12:48 Okay. Gargum?

12:51 Wanda.

12:52 Really?

12:53 You think Wanda's going to be in this?

12:54 I think it's going to happen. I think for sure. I think Vision's going to see her or something or have a vision of her. No pun intended. but um no yeah i i think that would be a uh a big moment obviously it'd be pretty wild to have that in the show not in the big movie but he's so tied to her i don't know.

13:14 I had pizza bae on that.

13:17 I'm not like a super high percentage but like i'm upwards of 50 i would say like like over 50 chance of it happening Sounds.

13:25 Like pizza bet material.

13:26 I kind of want to take it because I feel like it would be like a spicy holy shit moment and then obviously it would just be compounded on the fact that I won a pizza off you.

13:35 Yeah, that'd be a pretty good moment.

13:41 I'm going to say no.

13:45 I just feel like the reason I don't think that's happening, I think they want to save that big return for the movies, whether it's Doomsday or Secret Wars. What movie? What? Doomsday or Secret Wars.

13:53 There's too much stuff in there. No one's going to care about Wanda.

13:55 That's a lie. First of all, people are going to care about Wanda. No one's going to even know who that is. And how do we start talking? One of our first rants tonight was about the Endgame portals. You talk about too much going on. These movies are the definition of too much going on. They can get fucking Wanda flying back in.

14:11 Yeah.

14:12 I wouldn't pizza bet you on which one, because also she could be one of those witches, right? We've talked about that. And she could pop up there. So I wouldn't pizza bet you on which one, but I just think they want to save that for the movie of she's back and she also died in a movie right like multiverse of madness like that's where she went out was not the show so i i almost have it in my mind that maybe she is revealed to be one of the witches in doomsday and then in secret wars you got vision billy and wick and i guess maybe agatha but she's not as important those three kind of snap her out of what's going on like if she sees her family she no longer will be like the right hand woman to doom and she's like a

14:48 you know possessed witch or whatever she's doing. Who knows? Maybe she's not possessed. Maybe she's doing it by herself, but I think that's what's going to happen is Doomsday kind of sets it up like, oh, Wan is still doing mischievous evil shit, and then Secret Wars is like, we got to get our, we got to get mommy back, you know? We got to do that, so. That's what I'm thinking.

15:04 Got to get mommy back.

15:06 Yeah, other than that, I think Agatha, I'm 50, I'm 50, I'll say I'm 51 against. I feel like it's just going to be focused on Wiccan, because I feel like if Agatha pops up as Vision, we're like, who the fuck is this? It's a ghost, like, I think there's too much you've got to get into. I think they just want the scene of Vision seeing his other son.

15:23 And they want to just do that. And they want the scene of Wiccan with Billy and their adults finding each other. I don't think they want to bring in the ghost aspect yet. Because I just think that might take away from it, right? That's what I'm saying, 51 to 49. She could easily be floating around there. And as far as the MCU, there's always other. We always know there's going to be someone like a Jimmy Woo.

15:42 I'm not saying Jimmy Woo, but there's always somebody like that. Where it's like, alright, of course they're in this. We didn't think about that or they hit it. I don't know. So I'll say it's going to be one of those type of characters that we would have never thought of. And then when it happens, like, oh, yeah, makes complete sense.

15:57 So that's what I'm thinking. But I, yeah, there's no one else specifically I can get to. Taylor Field, what is the end credit of, is there an end credit? And if there is, what is the end credit?

16:10 I'm going to say no. No end credit.

16:12 Oh, okay.

16:13 And if there is, maybe it's Wong or something.

16:16 What's Wong doing? What's Wong doing?

16:19 He is doing something. I won't play it.

16:23 I'll hold off.

16:25 Hold off on what?

16:28 That's a little build up. They're saying we still got a whole other segment left. Why do we ever get rid of that? I don't think we had it. I think you're right that it was probably just super fucking loud at one point, and that's why. But I don't remember it ever being here. I remember us using the phone, and I remember using it when we were filming. I was playing that, and it kept making me laugh. Okay, so no end credit. Kirkland, get an end credit here?

17:06 Man.

17:09 I don't think we're getting a Season 2 of Vision Quest.

17:11 No.

17:12 So....

17:14 Does that.

17:15 Add or take away from the chances of there being an end credit? I'll say yes, there is an end credit. Hinting at where Vision's going next or just a character that's tying the events to this to, you know, the Avengers stuff that's going to be coming up. So, yeah, I will say yes, but not like a super strong yes.

17:37 Yeah, again, I'm 50-50 on this because a lot of the shows haven't had that. And for me. Like, if Wiccan's in the show, which I think he is, Billy, is that like how you end the show? Or is that the end credit? Is Vision and Tommy and their adventure, it's like, oh, what a crazy time and all emotionally satisfying.

17:55 And then it's like, oh, here's the end credit. Or do you want that to end the show? I'm going to lean to ends the show. And I think I'll be agreeing with Taylor that I don't think no end credit, unless there's something they can tie to Doomsday. But I doubt that. So I'll say no, but I'm very unsure. It's very... It's very iffy. Could go either way to me, you know?

18:15 You know what's weird is that Billy and Tommy are not biologically related to their mom.

18:23 What the fuck do you mean?

18:25 Well, no, because they're just memories and like a soul that came into the body, right? So they're not biologically related to Wanda. Because she gave birth to them in the town, but then their spirits went out and left their bodies that were biologically related to Wanda and then jumped into these other bodies.

18:40 I just wanted to, like, why just Wanda, though? You threw big rams.

18:45 You ever fucked your mom?

18:51 Vision doesn't count because he's the robot.

18:58 Okay, I guess. That's true. You just sing all her out. But, yeah, no, it's true. They're just souls. What's wrong? What's wrong? Something happen? No. Just souls in a vessel. That's who they are. That's it? Was there a reason you pointed out why they're not biological?

19:15 No, no, no. I was just thinking like, oh shit, they're not related to Wanda.

19:19 Yeah. I'm just surprised this didn't come up on the Agatha reviews. It probably should have, yeah. It's two years too late. Anything else?

19:30 We'll edit those episodes.

19:32 Yeah, let's go tonight. Can we re-record the one episode we talked about that and we'll put it back in there? Anything else on Vision Quest?

19:40 No.

19:40 It's skedaddle.

19:41 We still got one more topic, Kirkland.

19:44 I know.

19:45 It's skedaddle on the next one.

19:47 Yeah.

19:48 Because I looked at it. next week. I'm not throwing these at Dylan, because Dylan's going to be like...