I told my cousin that her kids are NOT special, and it made her crash out! | Reddit Stories | EP3112

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0:06 But before that, we have a quick two minute break from the sponsors that keep the show alive. I told my cousin that her kids are not special and it made her crash out.

0:16 They are special snowflakes.

0:18 They are special snowflakes. I, female 35, don't like kids and never want them. Well, I see the issue here already. My cousin, female 32, has five. Dang. She dropped out of college and had her first kid at 20 and her youngest at 28. She just cannot wrap her head around why I never want kids and is always asking when I plan to get married and pregnant. I've told her several times that while both my partner and I plan to marry in the future, neither of us wants kids.

0:52 She always brushes it aside with, oh, you'll change your mind. I'd avoid this person completely, but I do run into her when I visit my grandfather. Cousin has always had this annoying habit of getting me to spend time with her kids to get me to see how great kids are. Now, I have nothing against her kids, but they can be a bit rambunctious at times, and I just don't want to have to spend time with them. They're kids. I never really know what to say to them. Cousin also refuses to discipline them and lets them run wild, even in my grandfather's house. According to her, these kids are angels and can do no wrong. And when they knock over my grandfather's stuff or make noise when he's trying to sleep, it's adorable.

1:36 Oh.

1:38 Yeah. I've seen the kids like that.

1:40 I was at a taco stand the other day, and these kids were pulling the post to the tent like it was a jungle gym, and the parents were just doing nothing.

1:48 Oh, yeah.

1:49 Yeah, and it's just like, those kids suck.

1:52 Yeah, and then the whole thing falls and everything catches on fire because it falls on the stove.

1:55 I will say, though, it's always a weird red flag to me when people are like, I don't know what to say to kids.

2:02 It's like, what? What are you talking about?

2:04 Yeah, they're just humans. You can just literally have a conversation.

2:07 You can just be like, what's your favorite animal? Yeah. Like, come on.

2:12 Or be like, what's your favorite subject in school? Oh, who's your best friend? I love to ask that.

2:17 Yeah, not hard at all to talk to a kid.

2:20 Not at all.

2:21 I'm getting a weird vibe, but it's fine.

2:23 And they will immediately just go and go and go. The other day, she again tried to convince me to change my mind about kids with, look how special and magical they are. Don't you want one? That was when one of her boys ran straight into the antique grandfather clock. It wobbled, but thankfully didn't topple over.

2:42 Okay, that's funny. That's perfect comedic timing.

2:45 I was just going to say, these kids know comedic timing. That's hard to come by. By the way, this comes from throwawaymyboobs. And if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay story type subreddit. I'm Savannah.

3:01 I'm Dakota.

3:02 And we're here to talk about kids and how they are nature's greatness. And also, worst thing ever. And you know, we're going to tell you our opinion. You let us know what you think in the comments. And that's all. As OP says, she seemed unfazed by this. I got really annoyed and told her, no, your kids aren't special.

3:26 They're as annoying and as unremarkable as you are. Cousin started to cry and went to my grandfather to complain to him like she was five years old. And this makes sense why the kids don't are the way that they are.

3:38 Yeah.

3:39 But also, that was mean for no reason.

3:41 It really was, yeah.

3:42 But she also... Her kids just gave you free comedic entertainment. She said, look how special they are. Boom. Like, come on.

3:52 You had to have, like, snickered a little bit.

3:54 If you didn't, there's something wrong with you.

3:57 That's a red flag on you. I felt no need to apologize and left. Later that day, Grandpa called me and told me he understood why I said what I had said but then I was a bit too harsh. What does Reddit think? Am I the a-hole?

4:10 I'm going to go ahead and say yes. That was an a-hole thing to do. That was rude.

4:16 That was mean.

4:17 But I also understand if she's like saying every single time, like, my kids are the best. Look, aren't they great? And they're just annoying. And there's five of them and they're just all like fighting, running around, causing a ruckus, whatever. I'd be like, This is the example you want me to go off of. No, I don't want kids.

4:33 Yeah, but you can just be like, I mean, yeah, your kids are special. They're especially annoying. Like they run amok, whatever. Don't make it like your kids are as unremarkable as you are.

4:44 Like that's.

4:45 Yeah.

4:45 If I had kids, I don't think I'd forgive you for a minute for that.

4:49 That's crazy.

4:50 Yeah.

4:51 I can understand you being like, no, they aren't special or something like that. Like out of spite. But then also of like being like, No, and they also suck as much as you. It's like, oh.

5:00 It's like now you're being all, you're putting, the stakes are too high. It's like if you have this conviction that you don't want kids, like it shouldn't be this like big thing, like a big deal when your sister who has five of them is like, don't you want kids? You should just be like, I still don't. Yeah, sure, your kids are special. I still don't want any. That should be as hard as it is, you know? Yeah.

5:22 Edit, this is the update. Today, in the late afternoon, my grandfather invited me and my cousin to his place to talk and clear the air. As a peace offering, I baked a chocolate cake for her kids that I know they love. Okay, starting off good. When she arrived, we both sat down with my grandfather in the study.

5:42 I began the conversation by telling her I was sorry and that I did not mean what I had said. That I have nothing against her kids and I said what I said in a moment of anger. She accepted my apology, but then told me something I had not expected. She said she has always had a feeling that I looked down on her because she did not finish her college education and has no career. I tried to tell her that wasn't true, but she cut me off. She reminded me of all the times I had invited other siblings and cousins to my place for parties, etc., but never her. I tried to tell her it was because I had more in common with them, but she kept talking over me. Then she decided to bring up something that had happened over 13 years ago. Oh, God. So

6:26 she's just bringing up the past now.

6:28 She's been hanging on to some stuff.

6:31 13 years worth.

6:33 Also, I'm not going to lie, OP.

6:35 I think you need to actually examine yourself and really find the answer on whether or not you look down on her for that because that is kind of the vibe that you give off.

6:44 It is.

6:45 It kind of seems like you're, you know, You made the smart decision. Right.

6:49 Like, whether it was intentional or not, like, I think you should really look at whether or not that is how you feel.

6:54 You see, her husband and I went to the same college and had a class together. He and I dated for like a month before I broke it off. He tried to convince me to get back together, but I refused. He had already met my cousin a few times and decided to date her to make me jealous. It didn't work, and a few months later, she became pregnant, and our family practically forced him to marry her.

7:17 Oh, my.

7:18 Oh, wow.

7:20 Okay, so there is lore here.

7:22 What a little wrinkle that is.

7:25 Yeah. To be like, she brought up something 13 years ago, but that is also a big something. This isn't just like, oh, yeah, you know, we had a disagreement one time. No.

7:36 No, her husband got with her to make me jealous, and then they got pregnant and married.

7:40 Ah.

7:40 How did she know all of this? He told her. My cousin's husband had cheated on her a few years ago, and one day during a fight, he told her since he couldn't have me, he had to settle for her. Oh, I mean, yeah, I could see why she acts the way she acts now. That's a lot to deal with. The SOB went on to tell her all about his plans to get me back by dating her. This must have crushed her. Now that I think about it, it was around the same time, four years ago, that she began pressuring me to marry and have kids. Her behavior and her reaction makes sense now.

8:18 Oh, so she was trying to do a reverse lockdown.

8:21 Yeah.

8:22 She's like, if you get married and have kids, my husband can't leave me for you.

8:27 Oh.

8:27 Oh, girly pop, leave your husband. What are we doing?

8:31 Five kids with this man. Ugh. And he also cheated on you and also doesn't even really like you, was forced to marry you. Like, this is a horrible situation. She then looked at my chocolate cake and confessed that she had been throwing away all the cookies, cakes, etc. I made for her kids because her oldest had once told her that my cakes are so much better than hers.

8:53 She couldn't bear to hear her own kids praise my cooking over hers. She feels like she's inferior to me in every aspect. All right. little left here.

9:04 Cousin leave your man yeah leave that creature of the black lagoon.

9:10 The trauma dump of this cousin i mean holy crap like this was out of left field i feel so horrible though for her she's been through a lot and obviously not all of it was her fault.

9:25 I feel for her but like Your cousin's kids should not be raised by the man that hates his wife.

9:32 Like, they should split. This is horrible. Yeah.

9:35 And it seems like he just, any opportunity, like, will throw that in her face of like, oh, well, I just, I'm only with you because I'm going to get back with her, you know, type of thing. That's just a horrible feeling to feel all the time. Thinking like, oh, I, he likes me. We're in love. No, no. Not at all.

9:52 He's doing this as like a little side plot.

9:55 Yeah.

9:55 I hope Grandpa has something good to say right now.

9:58 Yeah. I hope Grandpa does. does something. I was at a loss. My grandfather then interjected and told cousin that her life or the way her husband treats her is not my fault and that she should at least seek therapy. Yes, grandpa. We have a wise grandpa.

10:16 A wise elder sage.

10:17 Yeah. She began to cry. I felt even worse. I don't blame myself at all for her woes, but I just have no idea how to help her.

10:26 Hey, tell her to get divorced.

10:28 But that's also super hard. I asked if she wanted me to take the cake back or if she wanted to give it to her kids. She took it with a thank you. She then said she had to go home because she had to make dinner. I had to go home too, but my grandfather and I have agreed to discuss this at length soon. When her husband cheated, some of our relatives tried to get her to leave, but she says she doesn't want to break their family, which is very understandable. But also I think therapy, going to therapy, screw couples therapy. This guy doesn't even like you.

11:01 I say go to individual therapy. And also if you're going to separate from this guy, individual therapy for your kids to figure that out as well with them. But I think when the cousin goes into therapy, she's going to thrive. She's going to understand more about herself, more about the situation, not blame others. She needs to start new and have a new mindset. And OP, that is not your job. You can feel bad for her, but obviously don't blame yourself and whatnot. And I don't think that's what you're doing. But it is horrible. It's a horrible situation. And you don't want anyone in your family, whether you like them or not, to go through that.

11:39 It's hard.

11:40 So I'd say, OP, you're doing fine.

11:42 Your cousin, your family's going to be more broken if you stay together. There's no way those kids are going to have a positive male role model seeing, you know, or not even a male role model.

11:53 It's more just like the blueprint of how a relationship should work.

11:56 Yeah.

11:57 Seeing that between you and your husband, like, I don't know. Like, I can't imagine, you know, I can't imagine that being better than just co-parenting.

12:05 Yeah.

12:05 But that's the end of that story. And we got another one coming right up.

12:09 I refuse to pay for my granddaughter's college, even though I have the money for it.

12:15 I don't owe her anything.

12:16 I have five beautiful grandchildren.

12:21 And when they were born, my husband and I set up a college fund for each of them, and always adding in money for every Christmas and birthday. My husband and I aren't rich, but by the time each child becomes of age, it will definitely save them on.

12:35 Some future loans.

12:36 My daughter, the mother of my first grandchild, Julie, married a nice man, Mike, a few years after her divorce, and he offered to help pay for Julie's future education. Everyone was thrilled by his wonderful generosity, and because he made a lot of money himself, my husband and I thought nothing about handing over Julie's college fund information so that he could contribute. My husband and I still kept the fund in our name, and for a few years this worked out well.

13:05 Eventually, Our daughter came to us and said that.

13:08 She wanted to open up a new account for Julie and have us transfer all the money in there. My husband and I were very reluctant at first, which offended our daughter because she felt like we didn't trust her as a parent. That's not what we intended, and we were open to giving her half the money as a sign of good faith. But my husband insisted that only our daughter have control over it in case something happened.

13:33 This seemed like a reasonable request at the time. But it made things worse, and eventually we just gave in because our daughter told Mike, and we just couldn't take the tension and awkwardness anymore. By the way, this comes from a deleted user, and if you want to submit your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.

13:49 I'm Dakota.

13:50 And I'm Savannah.

13:51 And we're going to read this story and have our thoughts and give our good advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers.

13:55 So let us know what you would do in the comments, because we only know what we would do. And no pieces.

14:01 Now. Julie is going to be graduating next year and wants to go to a really good private school, and we're all so very proud of her. My husband and I were shocked when Julie called us in tears, saying that her mother and Mike gave away her college money.

14:20 Shocker.

14:21 I wonder what they spent it on.

14:23 How many jet skis did they buy?

14:25 The fact that it said the parents gave away her college fund, not like spent the money, like gave it away? Did they give it to someone else?

14:33 Yeah, did they fund someone else's college?

14:36 Did they get confused? Apparently, Mike has a brother who was in trouble and needed some money.

14:42 There we go. So they did give it away.

14:44 Yeah, it's always the troubled brother.

14:47 So Mike gave his brother access to Julie's account under the promise that he'd pay it back.

14:55 He didn't.

14:56 And when Mike and my daughter threatened to take him to court over it, Mike's brother said that it would never hold up in court because it was a verbal deal and that Mike technically owed him that money since Mike never paid his brother back for a loan and could prove it.

15:10 Horrible, horrible people.

15:12 Mike, why did you give your scumbag brother your stepdaughter's college fund? Also, the brother's talking about a loan? Sounds like there's stuff that you could talk about in court then, buddy. I think it would hold up in court if you go, yeah, I stole this money because my brother owed me for a loan. You go, oh, you stole whose money? Because your brother's name's not on that account, buddy.

15:36 Or wait, no, it is. Damn, they put it on both.

15:40 Ugh, Mike. My daughter and Mike are planning on suing, but between the pandemic and possible court delays, they may not get the money in time for Julie's freshman year. My daughter asked us to help Julie, but we've recently retired and don't have the money right now. My daughter then suggested that we take money from the other accounts and that she and Mike could pay us back with the lawsuit money, but we simply wouldn't risk our other grandchildren's futures. My daughter then accused us of not loving Julie, And said that we were bad grandparents for having college money but refusing to give it. Ooh, now I'm like, yikes.

16:17 You're getting nothing ever again. What are you talking about?

16:20 First of all, we didn't even want to give it to you in the first place. Then when we do, you give it away. Yeah. And then you come back being like, well, we need you to pay for it again. Excuse me?

16:30 I would so unkindly remind them that... Hey, how did this happen? What started this all? Was it?

16:38 Oh, right.

16:39 Y'all demanding that all of the money be transferred to this other account that you had access to.

16:45 And then you gave the money away.

16:48 Am I wrong?

16:50 What?

16:51 My husband is still firm, but after a few days, I'm starting to wonder if we're in the right. Our second grandchild won't be of college age for at least another five years, which could be enough time for Mike and my daughter to pay us back.

17:03 I just don't know what to do. So I'm asking, am I the a-hole? There is an update.

17:08 No, I wouldn't say you're the a-hole. I'd say, I don't know your financial situation. I don't know how much money is in these accounts. I don't know how likely they are to get the money back from the lawsuit. It wouldn't be fair for some other grandchild to now not have this college money because Mike gave all the money away to his brother, you know?

17:26 Yeah, it's kind of like they want you to do exactly the same thing. And guess what? They'll probably blow it for a second time as well.

17:34 Yeah, I thought Mike also made all this money. I thought Mike made a bunch of money. Couldn't Mike have just, I don't know, paid his brother with not Julie's college fund?

17:46 It's just the fact that you did this out of the kindness of your heart. And we're like, oh, I'm going to help out my grandchildren. And then they go and blow the money. And then they're like, oh, well, we need more. No, actually, that you should have spent it on what it was for. You know, this is not our fault. You were irresponsible with your money or with our money, basically. No, it's not like, yeah, we're not doing that again.

18:09 I think it's time for for Mike and your daughter. I think it's time for them to take out a loan.

18:16 Yeah.

18:17 You know, you've probably got the credit for it. You've probably got the income for it. Sorry that you made a terrible mistake, but the money for the other grandchildren is for them and it cannot go to you.

18:28 Exactly. And it sucks because you did that to your daughter. Like nobody else did that.

18:34 You did that.

18:34 It's a really hard spot to be put in, but it's not fair for them to put you there.

18:40 Update. Dear everyone, Thank you so much for your kind words.

18:44 I was really struggling with what to do because I love Julie so much and hate to see her hurting. I also showed my husband your responses and he actually talked to our daughter on the side and told her to take out a loan in her and Mike's name and pay it back with the lawsuit money before I even made this post.

19:04 Our daughter and.

19:04 Mike's refusal to do so told my husband everything he needed to know. And that's why he remained firm in his decision. The only reason he didn't bring it up to me sooner was because he wanted to wait until I was less upset.

19:18 Aw, good husband. Now, on to some good news.

19:21 Julie will still get to go to college without any loans. It turns out David, my daughter's ex-husband and Julie's biological father, and his parents already set up a college fund when she entered kindergarten and was going to surprise her at graduation.

19:37 Would you look at that? Ex-husband coming in in the clutch. Wow.

19:44 To fix your mistakes.

19:45 Maybe you should have stayed married to him.

19:48 After hearing how Julie was thinking about not going to college for a few years and how sad she was, they decided to tell her about the money, but won't give her the exact number until she graduates to.

19:58 Still keep it a surprise.

20:00 I was so relieved yet still hurt because her other grandparents were able to give something that I couldn't, even though I said I would.

20:08 But you did. You did. Yeah, that's the thing. You did. You literally did. And then her parents, or Mike, gave it away. This is all on Mike.

20:20 Literally, and yeah, it's all on Mike.

20:23 Julia is my first grandchild, and I took care of her a lot when she was two years old up until preschool. I love all my grandchildren equally, but I do sometimes feel a little closer to her. I'm also furious at Mike... And my daughter, because you were all right. And it was mostly a lie.

20:41 What?

20:43 No. Oh, no.

20:46 They did the jet skis. They bought the jet skis.

20:50 Dang it.

20:51 Our daughter went around and told my other children of the situation and tried to convince them to agree to let Julie use the other grandchildren's money.

21:01 My son is married to a very smart accountant.

21:03 And knows some good lawyers who offered to take on the case pro bono as a favor to her.

21:08 Mike insisted that he.

21:10 Had his own lawyer, and that's when the lies began to slowly come out. To keep it short, Mike really does have a brother named James, who really did take some money and refused to pay it back, but it was only $ 500?

21:24 Wow!

21:24 Divorce! Yeah. Goodbye, Mike.

21:26 See you never. What?

21:32 The family was livid. I'm livid.

21:34 My husband, son, David, and I all went over to demand the rest of the money. After a lot of pressure, Mike admitted that he took the rest of the money in an attempt to invest it in some new form of electric currency type of thing.

21:49 He did not put it into Bitcoin.

21:51 No, he didn't. Wait, hold on a second.

21:54 Depending on when this post was made, that could have been maybe the smartest move of all time. Bitcoin, crypto. Because electric currency, yeah, that's Bitcoin. That's a grandma talking about Bitcoin. David had to explain to me and my husband that they were basically invisible coins.

22:14 And I lost it.

22:15 All my life I've been raised to always maintain my composure in public and that ladies never use foul language.

22:20 But on that day, I cursed worse than a sailor.

22:25 If you make a grandma curse, you're in the wrong already.

22:29 Yeah. Yeah.

22:31 Again, I gotta look at the timeline of this.

22:33 I didn't even realize it until my son grabbed me, but I had a full meltdown. My face was flushed with a different color, my mascara was running, and my neatly combed hair was now a mess. My husband and son took me back to the car while David, Mike, and my daughter all had a talk. Julie will be moving in with her father since her high school classes are online.

22:52 I told my.

22:52 Daughter that while I still love her, I was deeply disappointed and needed to go a few days without speaking to her. I also made it clear that while her marriage is her business, I no longer consider Mike family.

23:04 Dang.

23:05 Mm-hmm. You're invisible coins. You're invisible electric currency.

23:10 You're an invisible family member.

23:12 I gotta look at this right now.

23:13 When it was posted?

23:14 Yeah, I got to find this.

23:16 Hold on. I need to figure out if this guy made the most genius investment he could have possibly made. If this is like 2014, 2015, this guy is now worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

23:29 Please.

23:31 Okay, it's six years ago, 2020, which is right before another giant pop.

23:40 Uh-oh, he kind of was right. He was right.

23:44 But that was a gamble on your daughter's college fund.

23:47 It was. It very much was.

23:49 But if they hold the course on that, that money multiplied very handsomely.

23:57 I mean, I'm still going to be pissed.

24:00 Yeah, I think the basic premise of taking your stepdaughter's college fund to make an investment right before she goes to college?

24:10 Yeah, that's still a scumbag thing to do. However, it made a lot of money. You should have used your own money, Mike.

24:16 Yes, but it also made a lot of money way down the line. Well... How long would that take?

24:22 It popped really hard in 2020. After 2020, popped super hard. Anyway, but still, scumbag move.

24:31 Investment good, morals incorrect.

24:33 My daughter claims she didn't know what Mike was doing until it was too late and was too embarrassed to admit the truth to us. I would like to believe her, but right now I'm not sure. I hope he gave all that investment money to.

24:46 Julie, right?

24:47 Yeah, you should.

24:48 She should be getting a sizable chunk of that.

24:50 Yeah, all of that and more.

24:52 And give some to grandma. Spread it around, right?

24:56 However, Julie can still go to college straight after high school as planned without any debt. and is even considering going to online community college to save money. Her other grandparents told her what she didn't use for college she could keep for herself. I'm so proud of her, and I'm so relieved that she doesn't blame us for what Mike did, and wouldn't want us to take money away from her cousins.

25:17 That's the full story, people. Please learn from my mistake. P.S.

25:21 I ruined my reputation as the sweet, fun grandma, and now I'm crazy yelling grandma.

25:26 Aww. Crazy yelling grandma.

25:28 All zooted up over invisible coins and electric currency.

25:33 I would also be pretty pissed and yelly.

25:36 Yeah, no, that's a very reasonable thing to be pissed and yelly about. You took my granddaughter's college fund and you turned it into invisible money.

25:44 What? You also have to understand she's older.

25:48 Yeah, she don't. She don't know. I don't even know.

25:50 So to her, that's like you just burned all of that money.

25:53 Yeah.

25:54 And turned it into nothing.

25:56 It never said the amount, right?

25:57 No.

25:58 I would assume it's thousands.

25:59 The only way this guy could end up being okay, which again, still a scumbag move to pull, he needs to take all of the money that he made from that investment, needs to repay the full cost of the college fund to grandma. He needs to give the full cost of the college fund to Julie as well. Let me check the chart. Let me see how much his investment would have multiplied theoretically.

26:26 Well, let's say like 5K.

26:29 Like he put in 5K?

26:30 Yeah, like he put in 5K.

26:31 Let's call it 20. Oh, he put in 20K.

26:33 Oh, God. So in 2020, in let's call it March 2020, 6,500. 6,500.

26:36 In October of 2021, 62,000. So that's almost 10x. And then if you go forward to 2025, 94,000. So a very, very, very good investment. But you need to repay the right people.

27:05 But it just wasn't your money.

27:06 It just wasn't your money. So still a scumbag move. But my goodness.

27:10 Yeah.

27:11 That is life changing money.

27:13 And it's now actually it's down. It was over 100,000. It was at $ 123, 000 in September of last year, but it has gone down to $ 68, 000.

27:23 Dang. Big, big decrease.

27:26 Yes.

27:26 Volatile currency.

27:28 But yeah, could have theoretically made a stupid amount of money off of that because, yeah, if you basically 20x.

27:36 That, that's $ 400, 000.

27:37 Okay.

27:37 So not the dumbest move, but also still a scumbag move. Anyway, I was messing around with that stuff when it was worth like $ 150.

27:45 Mm-hmm.

27:47 And for nefarious purposes, of course, as one did back in the day. But it used to trip me out. I couldn't listen to anyone talk about Bitcoin or crypto because I would think about how much money I could have theoretically had if I had just taken it more seriously.

28:05 Yeah, like learned about it and everything?

28:06 Yeah, because I was just like, oh, this is just the weird internet money you use.

28:10 To buy Bitcoin.

28:14 Illegal things, but turns out I could have been worth a hundred million dollars. But I relaxed on that when I realized I definitely.

28:20 Would have just sold it way early.

28:21 Yeah.

28:22 Like as soon as it went to like a thousand dollars, I probably would have sold it.

28:26 Yeah.

28:27 So I would have, that would have never happened. And I've made peace with that. Anyway, that is the end of that story. That's a little peek into my life as a teen. Um, and we have another story coming up.

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28:43 My brother disappeared with my dog and lied for weeks about it.

28:47 Somebody call the Paw Patrol on this man.

28:51 About two years ago, my brother, 31 male, begged my mom, 49 female, to let him keep a dog in the house. She refused because she knows how irresponsible he is. I, 24 female, also didn't want a dog because I knew I would end up taking care of it. He ended up going behind her back and buying a dog anyway. Ugh. Listen, I love animals as much as the next person, but I know when to get them and when not to.

29:19 And you should not in this situation.

29:23 No.

29:24 My mom and I were really irritated at first, but eventually we both fell in love with the dog. Yeah. My brother paid attention to the dog for about a month and then got over her. So, of course, like I knew would happen, I ended up having to take care of her. Honestly, I started considering her mind since I was the one doing everything for her and my brother rarely ever paid any attention to her. I got extremely attached to her and she would even sleep in my bed with me. That was my dog. When we first got my dog, all the animals loved me when I first got them.

29:58 Because they're like, When they first meet you. Yeah.

30:02 When they first meet.

30:02 Well, and then they get to know you and they're.

30:05 Like, no, then my mom walks or takes care of her, all this stuff. I mean, I would also do that, but obviously my mom took over. She was the best part of my day. Last Friday I got home and she was nowhere to be found. I called my mom in a panic to ask her where the dog was. And she ended up telling me that my brother had taken her to the vet. I found this extremely odd, as he had never bothered to take her anywhere before.

30:31 He claimed to have taken her to get neutered. First of all, girls don't get neutered, girls get spayed.

30:38 Right?

30:38 Yeah, interesting. So he claimed to have taken her to get spayed, but whenever I asked for more information, he would just get extremely defensive and say that the vets hadn't told him anything. By the way, this comes from EmptyP3798. And if you want to spend your own stories, go to the r slash ok story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.

30:58 I'm Dakota.

30:59 And we're here to talk about some stuff, give some advice, but we don't have all your answers. We are going to tell you what we would do, but you should let us know what you would do down in the comments.

31:07 I'll tell you what I would do if I was that guy.

31:09 I would know the difference between being spayed and neutered, so when I lied about taking the dog to the vet, I wouldn't get caught.

31:15 Yeah, immediately I'd be like, oh, you mean spayed? He'd be like, what's that?

31:18 Why are you lying about the dog?

31:21 Jail.

31:21 Go to jail. Send you to jail. Call the Paw Patrol. Send this man to jail.

31:25 Paw Patrol, as Opie says, it has been a week now since the last time I saw her, and he is still claiming that the vet hasn't called to let him know any information about how the dog is doing.

31:36 That is.

31:37 No.

31:37 Complete lie. No!

31:38 It takes, like, a couple hours, not even, to have that, you know, surgery done.

31:44 I'm upset at everyone in this story for not understanding that this is so blatantly not true.

31:50 Unless.

31:52 There were complications, but the thing is, you would.

31:55 Yeah, no, it wouldn't be. This is the most obvious lie of all time.

31:59 I can't believe you let a week go by and this guy is just stealing your dog.

32:02 No, I would let a day. Maybe we ended up getting into an argument about it because I asked him what he took her to so I could call them for info. But he just gets extremely angry and starts yelling at me to let the vets do their job. He told me that it was his dog in the first place and that he could do whatever he wanted with her. I don't want to think the worst, but I'm almost sure that he sold her because he needed money for his substance habit. No, no, I hope not.

32:33 Jail, so super jail. Send him to the biggest super jail of all time. Send him to the jail they put all the villains in in Batman.

32:42 Send him to Arkham.

32:43 Something to note is that currently I'm the one paying all of the rent, bills, etc. My mom lost her job last year and has not been able to find a new one, so I have been the one paying for everything. My brother is a lazy mooch who sleeps on the living room couch and hasn't been able to hold a job down for years. I was super upset about this whole situation, and I told my mom that if he does not bring the dog back from wherever he took her, I'm going to throw him out of the apartment. She got angry and told me that I didn't have the right to do that. I told her that I did have the right since my name is on the lease and I'm the one paying for everything. Yeah, that's definitely your right.

33:20 The way this man would be so beat up, like I can't even pretend. This is an Old West justice type of situation.

33:30 Yeah.

33:30 My brother overheard the conversation and is now angry that I would throw him out and possibly make him homeless over a dog. My mom called me a heartless a-hole for choosing a dog over my own brother. Am I the a-hole for saying my brother has to leave if he doesn't bring the dog back? No.

33:47 Well, I'll tell you what. Your dog's not going to sell your brother to somebody.

33:51 Yeah. And also, one, he wasn't taking care of it. Two, he doesn't contribute at all to the house. And three, he has a substance problem. Yeah, no, he's out. Like, for sure out. And you haven't worked... Another four? You haven't worked in years? What's wrong with you? And then you're gonna sell the dog? I hope that's not true.

34:14 Yeah, this is a guy who needs.

34:17 Help.

34:18 To have his ass kicked. Sorry.

34:20 Edit. My brother is now claiming that they sent her to a hospital two hours away from us because she needed knee surgery?

34:30 My face when knee surgery is tomorrow.

34:34 And that his friend... Who originally sold him the dog is going to be taking care of her during recovery. And that will get her back once she is healed. Honestly, I don't know what to believe at this point. Edit number two. So I took the advice that some of you gave and started calling local vet clinics and shelters.

34:51 And so far, none have seen my dog. I also printed out posters and not only posted them in my area, but I also drove out to the city he claims she is receiving knee surgery at and put some flies around there. As for my brother... He ended up getting pissed about the flyers and we got into an argument again over the fact that he won't give me the info about what clinic my dog is supposedly at. I told him if my dog is not back by Friday, he is not staying with me anymore. He got really upset and left the apartment and has not come back.

35:22 Edit number three. I have no idea how to do an update on here, but there's really not much to tell. My brother left about a week ago and he hasn't come back. I was never able to locate my dog, but according to my mom, who was still in contact with my brother, he keeps telling her that I'll get my dog back when she recovers. And there are some comments.

35:42 Where is this dog?

35:44 I got nothing left to say. This man needs to meet my friend Pete. I got Pete, and then I got repeat over here.

35:51 That's what I got. That's an oldie but goodie.

35:56 There are some comments. What made you suspicious that your brother's story about the vet wasn't true? OP responds, that's what I thought. I knew he was lying as soon as he said she was going to have to stay for two weeks. Another commenter says, what did your brother tell you about where the dog was being treated? OP responds, I asked for it the Friday that he took her and he did tell me it was an animal hospital that is like eight minutes away from our house. But now apparently she's in a hospital in another city and he won't say what it's called.

36:28 And is your mom's just like chill with that? Your mom is just like, it's fine. It's just a dog. It's like beyond that, it's like this guy's behavior is disturbing.

36:39 Yeah.

36:40 Did your brother even have the means to take your dog to another hospital? OP responds, no, he does not have money at all or even a car. So I don't know how he is claiming that she was moved to another hospital, especially since he has been home all week since she disappeared. He hasn't left the house at all.

36:58 Where's this dog? It's freaking me out now. I don't like this at all. Where's this dog?

37:02 No, I'm getting I'm rounding up a posse. We are hog tying this guy and putting him on the train tracks until he tells us where the dog's at.

37:11 We are now in the Old West.

37:13 Another commenter says, what happened when you contacted the animal hospital your brother originally named? OP says, honestly, I was hesitant to call it first because I wasn't sure they would be able to give me any information if the dog wasn't under my name. And if my brother found out I was going behind his back, he would get pissed and I wanted to avoid that. But I ended up calling earlier and they pretty much confirmed that they did not treat my dog. Where is she? Another commenter said, had you already offered to pay your brother whatever he wanted if he would return the dog? OP responds, that's another issue. As soon as my mom told me he had taken her to the vet, I knew it was fishy and didn't believe anything that He told me I

37:52 got upset and told him to bring the dog back and I would buy her from him for whatever amount of money he wanted. He got mad and yelled at me that he wasn't selling her, that he can do what he wants, and that I have to stop acting like she's mine because she's not.

38:06 Update.

38:07 After 15 days.

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38:15 Okay, I really hope. That this dog is found and healthy.

38:19 This dog's going to be fine. I hope it bites this guy's sack.

38:23 Clean off. All right. Update after 15 days.

38:26 Well.

38:28 As many of you can probably guess, it has been two weeks since my dog disappeared, and I haven't gotten her back.

38:33 No! Good! I'm so mad at your brother!

38:38 I just saw the Anthony Bourdain movie yesterday, and the one thing I took away from that movie is that being a complete loser is an active choice that you choose to make. Your brother is choosing to be a complete loser.

38:55 Yeah, that is a choice, by the way. I did what a lot of you suggested to try and find her. I called animal shelters, clinics, and hospitals around my area, but I had no luck with them. I also posted flyers around my city and the city an hour away from where my brother claimed she was getting knee surgery.

39:12 I haven't heard back about that either. After my brother found out, I posted the flyers, he got extremely upset, and we got into a pretty heated argument. He left the apartment, and as of now, he's no longer living here, and he hasn't tried to come back as far as I know. My mom was upset at first, but I guess she decided not to argue with the person she's depending on for money.

39:30 Yeah smart move looks like the smarts don't go down from your mom to your.

39:35 Brother my brother never ended up telling me the truth about what happened my mom is keeping in contact with him through the phone and she did tell me that he is still keeping up with the lie Apparently, they were talking yesterday, and he told her again that I would get my dog back after she recovers.

39:51 Okay, at this point, dude, you need to be posting on every page that you can, on every social media platform, anywhere where people have bought dogs, or it'd be like, somebody sold my dog, and it wasn't theirs to sell.

40:06 If you know anything about this dog, please contact me. I will pay you.

40:10 Yeah. No, for real. For real.

40:12 Like, blast it everywhere. Flyers around town.

40:15 You know this guy sold it to somebody pretty close by because he's a scumbag.

40:19 He probably walked around the corner and sold it to somebody. So put up flyers all over the neighborhood. It's time to go to work. Yeah.

40:26 I honestly wasn't going to make an update because there wasn't much left to say. But then today I got home and found out my mom threw away all of my dog's toys from Her food bowls, her bed, and the bag of dog food she never finished. Oh my god! Oh, they gave me the chills! Where is this dog? I'm like, I'm panicking now. I don't like this at all. So I guess that's that. I really wish I had a happier update to give you guys. Comments. One comment says, what kind of dog was she? OP responds, she's a tiny deer head chihuahua. Aww. And I've never heard of dog fighting being a problem where I am, but I honestly don't know.

41:06 Okay, well, I got good news for you, OP. No one's dog fighting with a chihuahua.

41:09 It's true. Unless they're really weird. Those aren't usually fighting dogs. Oh, God. Another commenter says, what happened with your brother after he left the apartment? OP responds, as far as I know, my brother is homeless now. And after a talk with my mom and a lot of arguing, she finally has a full-time job again. So she's going to start paying her half of everything.

41:30 Thank goodness.

41:31 Yeah, I threw all of his stuff out after he left and I assume he came and picked it up because it was gone by the next morning. Definitely changed my locks and let my mom know if she ever lets him in for whatever reason, she can be next. Dang. Another commenter says, why do you think your mother continues to defend your brother? OP responds, I don't know what her relationship with him is about. I swear she would let him get away with unaliving things. I think it's partly because she's scared of him and doesn't know how he'll react if things don't go the way he wants them to. She's told me before that I'm never going to understand until I have children and I know what it feels like to love someone unconditionally.

42:12 You don't get it because you're not a boy mom.

42:14 When you're a mother, you let your child get away with anything because that's just what you do.

42:21 Hmm. How did that turn out for him? Is he in a great place right now?

42:26 He's literally homeless on the streets. Probably still with a substance problem. And a liar. And a thief. I think they both need therapy. Another commenter says, why haven't you called the police about your missing dog? OP responds, honestly, I've been hesitant to call the police because I have had bad experiences with them and I don't really like dealing with them. I think if my brother continues with his lies, I'm going to call and not only report him, but also his friend... who is supposedly taking care of the dog until she recovers. Maybe that will scare him enough to tell me the truth. Update two. All right, I'm really, really, really hoping that you have found the dog.

43:05 She is okay. She doesn't, like, none of the surgery was real. She's fine, healthy, whatever. Please be a happy ending, please.

43:15 Could you imagine if all this was true, the dog really did have to get, like, helicopter lifted to another facility to get emergency knee surgery and recover.

43:23 Like a chihuahua.

43:24 And the brother's like, I'm going to pay for all of it.

43:26 Yeah, that's the other thing. Who's paying for the bed bills?

43:28 I secretly, I have a stash of gold I've kept hidden from you and I'm using it to pay for your dog's knee surgery.

43:34 Wouldn't that be something?

43:35 This is like in Billy Madison when they read The Puppy Who Lost His Way. And then he goes, I don't like how they just gave up. Gave up after like an hour of looking. You know, that's not a good owner. There is a second update here. After six days from the last post, I found out the truth. Okay, okay. Apparently, my brother had already been planning to move in with his friend about two months ago. He wanted to take the dog with him when he left, but he knew I would get mad and wouldn't let him, so he waited until a day I was at work to take the dog to his new place. My dog has been at his new place with my brother's friend this whole time.

44:15 So she could get used to the new environment.

44:18 Hey, maybe, um, maybe not a new environment because you're not taking my dog.

44:22 Also, just why did you even get the dog? What's the dog for?

44:25 And now we call the police, right? Now we call the police. We know where the dog is.

44:29 It's at his stupid friend's house. Go get the dog back from your stupid brother and his stupid friend.

44:34 I just found all this out this morning. Now that I know he definitely still has the dog, I'm going to be filing a report with the police because I'm getting my dog back no matter what. According to my mom, she didn't know about any of this until my brother told her yesterday. I don't know if I should believe her.

44:52 There's a little bit left here. Oh, thank God you found this dog. I was so I was going to be so upset.

44:57 Yeah, dude.

44:58 And it's time. It's time to move out. Mom's got a job. She can find her own place. Don't live with her. If you're at a point where you're like, I don't know if I can believe my mom didn't know this the whole time. You're like distraught and upset about it. She threw out all the dog stuff. It sounds like your mom doesn't like the dog either.

45:15 Yeah. So move out. Get away from these people. They're scum.

45:19 Yeah, they're toxic. And they sitting there and like lying to you while you're actively like going insane, like trying to find this dog. That's not family. That's not friends. That's not love. No, screw these people. They are done. They are out. There are some comments. Throwaway Unknown 55 says, OK, hang on a sec. Have you actually seen the dog?

45:38 OP responds. Yes. Sorry, I didn't add that. I was typing in a rush. I have seen the dog with my own eyes and he definitely has her. I have already offered money and he refused. I can try offering more, but I don't know why he's being so stubborn about giving her back since he never cared for her before.

45:54 I feel like because him and his friend are involved with substances, threatening him with the police will work. But I'll have to wait and see. And honestly, my mom can side with whoever she wants. They're both broke, so I doubt they want to deal with a legal case.

46:08 Dang.

46:09 Fethington. Says, threaten him with legal action. I also refuse to believe your mom had no idea what was going on. It sounds like he might be the golden child. Opie responds, yeah, I am going to take legal action. Pretty sure my mom did know and she probably ended up giving all of the dog's items to my brother while I was at work. I mean, as far as I know, I know no one in the family can stand my brother.

46:32 He's been thrown out of every single house and isn't invited to any family get togethers. My mom is the only one that always defends him, even though she's been accused of some effed up crap by his own family. I don't know why she forgives him after everything.

46:50 Yeah. Because her brain is broken. She's got boy mom brain. Her brain is fried.

46:55 She's just not in the right. I mean, and she never will be. This seems like a new low for him. And even if she's been like if he's been in worse lows, you know, it's like, what is she doing to help him? Be like, no, no, no. Yeah, get a dog. And here's the stuff to care for it. Keep using your substances. Don't get a job.

47:15 She's probably like, it'll be good for him. He'll have something he has to take care of. It's like newsflash, genius. He's just going to neglect the dog.

47:23 Exactly. It's just going to poop and pee all over the house. And, you know, them doing substances in the house doesn't, 100%, they are doing substances in the house. It is that house. what they're doing so they're doing it around the dog in front of the dog probably having the dog do something I don't know probably think it's funny I just no he's done no contact get the dog legal action no contact next get your mom out yeah.

47:47 Honestly too I wouldn't even like warn him I think I would just tell the police and be like hey my brother stole my dog he lives here I don't know what's going on over there but I know that it's not a safe environment for the dog yeah and he stole my dog so yeah go get my dog.

48:04 Yeah I'm glad it turned out well, though. Yes. But that's the end of that story. And we got some comments.

48:11 All right. Before we end this episode, we've got some comments from the video.

48:15 I caught robbers in my home after my little sister let them in. And that was posted on August 14th, 2026. This is the TLDR for story one. OP was away at her boyfriend's place taking university exams when she got a devastating phone call from her mom. Their family home had been robbed. Everything that wasn't bolted down was gone. TVs, laptops, bikes, even her clothes and makeup. It was about $ 10, 000 worth of stuff.

48:42 Duh.

48:43 But then the pieces started to come together. Earlier, Opie's nine-year-old sister had let some friends in to see the dogs, and one girl kept asking creepy questions like whether anyone was home and if the dogs bit strangers. That night, the house was cleaned out and the spare key was missing. If you're curious to know the full story, you can go watch the full video.

49:08 And we've got some comments.

49:11 Academically Mochi says, for the first story, the parents clearly failed that 14-year-old if she had gang relations, and they need to sue the thieves regardless of what the officer said.

49:23 I mean, yeah, I.

49:25 Remember this story, and I think it comes down to, like, you can do that, but what will you get out of it, you know? Firespire793 says, in my opinion, the first story could have been avoided if everybody had a I honestly wonder how far or close OP's house is from her parents.

49:45 And why is this nine-year-old just wandering the streets with her friends?

49:49 No adult supervision in sight and letting others into her sister's home while she's not there.

49:55 I don't blame the kid as much as the adults in this situation.

49:58 And are people in New Zealand not allowed to get cameras for their property or something? I can't imagine having animals at home and while I'm gone, other people have come in and out of my house to upkeep things. Yet I don't have a way to surveillance any of that. So I'll let you know, nine-year-olds will roam a neighborhood with other nine-year-olds.

50:17 Because that's the way the world works.

50:20 Yeah.

50:20 Kids are not always under adult supervision. And honestly, it's better that way. I don't know.

50:25 You just gotta learn. Don't learn.

50:27 If you're always under supervision, you never learn how to do things for yourself. Maybe nine's a little early, but they were in a posse.

50:36 Anyway.

50:36 It was a posse of nine-year-olds. Come on. Who's gonna go up to that?

50:40 Tabitha Ellison 291 says the family's stealing money.

50:44 Sadly, I know quite a few family members that have done the same. It is so messed up.

50:51 Yeah, honestly, just sort of like the ultimate like, oh, you think nothing of me. Like you're just going to steal. You're gonna be a thief and you're gonna steal from me, from your own family.

50:59 It's crazy.

51:01 And Mame Luki says at four minutes and eight seconds, dude, I'm breaking into the house.

51:06 I'm not gonna lie.

51:07 And that is a doer right there. That is someone who does. But that is the end of those comments and the end of this episode. So if you love us, make sure you subscribe.

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