795. Brad Olsen

0:20 Hello and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willis, your host. We've got a great show tonight. I met Brad a couple of years ago at one of the MUFON events, and he has a great book that he just put out about the Antarctica and the possible UFO connection. I've been interested in that in a long time. I've heard of stories over the years, and he has written a book about it.

0:41 He is an.

0:42 Amazing world traveler, and he's done a lot of things around the world and has a lot of other books. But we're mostly going to be focusing on that this evening. So this coming Thursday, the 29th at 8 p.m., we'll have Lauren Fenton on. She's joining us from California, and she has an event she puts on every year. I hope to make it out there again. It's a lot of fun. Okay, so make sure you stop by podcastufo.com and check out this week's blog by UFO history buff Charles Lear this week. It's three views of the 1975 New Jersey North Hudson Park incident. Another very interesting thing.

1:22 There's some drawings involved in that. Check that out over at our website. I want to thank you all for who's here live and in chat. Great questions every week by all you. I do appreciate you being here. And so I think it's all, we're all ready to get going. I also want to thank all the people that support the show. Oh, before I forget, I'm going to bring this up right here. We have Calvin Parker has someone made a really great documentary. And the guy's name is Piers Garland, who created this. He's a British filmmaker. Did a wonderful job. It's called The Abduction of Calvin Parker, The True Pascagoula UFO Story. The full documentary is on YouTube, free for everybody. Check it out. I watched it today.

2:05 It's a very good program. And a lot of things that I think they just talked about for the first time that I've never heard before. Anyway, check that out on YouTube.

2:13 It's free.

2:14 I put the link in the show notes. There's also a link down in the YouTube text as well. And we are ready. Brad, thanks so much for being here.

2:22 Oh, hey, Martin. Thanks for having me on the podcast UFO.

2:28 Yeah.

2:29 And it's so great to meet you and hear your great lectures. I've been to two of them so far. And I have to tell you, I want to thank you very much for you were trying. You have poor internet where you're at and you were at the library, you're outside of the library because they closed on you. And I just want to thank you for that's real dedication.

2:47 I thank you for having to dress a little warm and being here with us.

2:52 And I appreciate it.

2:52 Well, it's a beautiful day in Yarrington. You'll be watching the sunset go down as we talk through the conversation and got my new book here so I can flip to images and yeah. A new way of doing an interview until they get the promised Wi-Fi in my area. I'm on the waiting list with T-Mobile. So until then, I have to just improvise.

3:15 Yeah, yeah. I always ask people this because I think it's interesting. First of all, I know you were a world traveler right out of college. You went three years of travel all around the world and backpacking and all that. Really interesting. But did you and I know you wrote a book called something World Stompers or something like that.

3:31 Yeah, it was the first book. Yeah. Yeah.

3:33 So I know you were into that, but what really got you interested in the esoteric and UFOs and things like that? Had you always had some type of interest?

3:44 Yeah, actually, I have my entire life based on these drawings I used to do.

3:50 I'm an illustrator.

3:51 Oh, you're an artist.

3:52 Yeah. And some of my earliest pictures, including one that I really liked, was this gray alien with kind of Spock ears and wearing a NASA astronaut spacesuit and I taped it up to my desk. I drew that when I was about eight or nine years old. So I've always been really interested in the paranormal, the other world, the unseen realms, and now the secrets of Antarctica. It's just always a lifetime fascination of mine. But as I say on the back of my book, all roads lead to Antarctica. Of course, no roads lead to Antarctica, but everything, even in the paranormal UFO field, has a road to Antarctica.

4:35 And that's what I'm bringing forth in this new book.

4:40 Wow.

4:41 And like I said, there's always been all kinds of weird stuff in certain areas of the world. And I know that's definitely one of them. And that there's been a lot of talk and there's a fascination with what's under the ice there as well. And I had a friend that went there on a kayak, kayaking tour, believe it or not, in the Antarctica. And So you have been there, right?

5:04 Yeah.

5:05 You sailed there. Did you sail there?

5:06 The sailboat.

5:08 Wow.

5:08 He and I probably went to the exact same spot because it's the closest link to the mainland.

5:16 And this is me on the cheap one sailboat.

5:18 When we first caught sight of land, those are actually the King George islands. There's a string of Island off of the West Antarctica coastline. And that creates a really great, mostly ice-free passage. called the Bransford Strait. And so he and I and other cruise ships and other sailboats, we're all doing that area. And that's one of the approved tourism zones in Antarctica. But I found the vast majority of the continent are off limits. Not only extremely difficult to get to, very expensive, even if you could, but they wouldn't give you the permits. There are no go zones.

5:57 There are no fly zones. There are even no travel through on cross-country ski zones.

6:03 Wow. And anytime you do something like that, of course, it breeds conspiracy, right? You have to think there's a reason why they would do that.

6:12 Yeah.

6:13 Do they actually say it's because they don't want to be responsible for people getting stranded and have to rescue them and things like that?

6:23 As an aside, they really don't give a reason, but I haven't tried to go to any of these forbidden zones either. I've just spoken with Linda Moulton Howe and her whistleblower, Brian S., who has flown many flights for several years, almost a decade, and saw quite a bit of high strangeness. He's also a direct eyewitness to the giant hole in the ice. And this is very significant because it's only about 50 miles away from the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Research Station. And he said that there were tracks that go out to it. It is in a no fly zone. It's also in a no go zone.

7:05 You cannot even cross country ski out there. But I would like to challenge that and we know where to go. Brian S might even come on a trip and we think we have a financier for 2027 to go back down there and go to the South Pole. Maybe go to these pyramids poking through out of the ice. The one that's been on ancient aliens and the most talked about one. I know where that is, there's the GPS coordinates, or some of these other ones. Anybody wants to go, I try to encourage people to use this book as a travel guide, or even just to go on Google Earth and take a look at some of these for yourself.

7:45 So you could put in the coordinates that are on these images on Google Earth and actually pull this up.

7:51 Right up, zoom in on it, zoom out, see exactly where it's located. So it does give us some Really juicy nuggets. Some of them, and I count four different pyramid structures or mountains down in Antarctica. And I think two or three of them are just none attacks, which are just attractive four sided mountains that poke out under the ice.

8:14 But if just one of them is authentic.

8:17 And it shows signs of being constructed by intelligent hands, it's a complete game changer. Then we're talking about an ancient civilization.

8:28 And I know the climate has changed everywhere. It's so weird on the different, when you're looking back historically at the earth, places that were now are tropical or were under ice and the other way around, which is always fascinating when they're finding fossils and things like that, where they find sea fossils on top of mountains and things like that. It's all fascinating how things have changed over for many years. When you were discussing the possibility of Under anomalous unidentified craft beneath the Antarctic ice, where did that claim originate? I have heard this. I know that that's something that you have talked about, right? You think there's something there?

9:13 There is a there, Martin. Yeah, I would agree with that.

9:15 And I come with the receipts. I show you the proof. I show you the images. I give you the GPS coordinates. I'm looking for the same kind of evidence you or MUFON or any solid researcher wants to find.

9:31 And I've worked with Dr.

9:32 Michael Sala, who's written several books on Antarctica, as well as David Atcher Childress, a really good friend of mine from Ancient Aliens. And that's the big enigma here is what is under the ice? Because I should preface by saying that Antarctica is the most volcanically active continent.

9:51 In the world.

9:52 14 known active volcanoes and over 93 geothermal vents. And some keep getting discovered every year. So that number keeps going up. And so it would have the propensity to create very large under ice domes, which some areas have had preliminary scans. And I'll tell you, Martin, that right there is a game changer because And I have some of them, which actually made headlines in some newspapers around the world when they came out a couple of years ago.

10:27 One was the sun and it shows under the ice, a black pyramid with sonar scans, as well as many other pictures with very symmetrical patterns. And that's on the continental level in Antarctica, two miles under the ice. So they're doing the same kind of scanning technology that they used with the Giza pyramid. And some of those from the satellite scanning through, even NASA showing images that they say are traces of human, ancient human settlement. Maybe ET settlement, maybe Atlantis. And Michael Sala provided me with a couple other GPS coordinates where you can see grid-like patterns which Mother Nature does not create perfect symmetry or stacked blocks in such a fashion. That has to show signs of

11:28 intelligent design.

11:31 That would be amazing. Like you said, if we could just find one that could be documented. You talked earlier just a few minutes ago about this hole in the ice. Could that have anything to do with the thermal venting you just mentioned?

11:43 Yeah, and it makes perfect sense that this much internal heat is going to need an outlet. I've found on Google earth, other giant holes. The one at the South pole is just remarkable because it has the road that corkscrews down it, according to Brian S who saw it and his whole crew saw it and they talked about it.

12:02 And then they got interrogated when they got back and were basically told you didn't see what you just saw. Typical of any kind of military UFO sighting, just like bill Cooper would always say when he saw the big ship come out of the water.

12:16 He got debriefed and he said, you didn't see what you just saw. So do you believe your own eyes.

12:22 Or do you go along with this controlled narrative that they're trying to keep this stuff under wraps?

12:27 That is the case with the hole in the ice.

12:29 And there have been multiple encounters with NSA agents. Remember the no such agency, which was set up and tasked to do all the UFO retrievals and recovery of bodies dead or alive. I like what Bill Cooper said. There are more live aliens recovered than you were aware of back in the 50s and 60s when he's looking at the reports. Can you imagine how far they are now?

12:57 Right.

12:57 And I think this is why.

12:58 We're getting the trickle little drip, little quicker flow of disclosure now because it's all coming out. And I've heard it said that if the human races don't do it, that. There are benevolent ET races that will force the card and make themselves seen and make us then discuss what's really going on. And Antarctica has a part of that.

13:21 All roads lead to Antarctica. And that's part of the disclosure is what is going on under the ice. I couldn't ask that question better or more firmly myself, Martin. You're right on the tip of it.

13:35 When the the tranches have come out this number seven just came out the other day a lot of people are talking about this black triangle and things like that but have any of them that you are aware of that came out all seven of them any of them involved i just can't recall myself are there anything involved in antarctica or any place like.

13:56 That are you with the ufo sightings.

14:01 Yeah with the sightings and with what they're releasing in the documents and films and things i haven't noticed any i just i didn't know if you were in into it and looked.

14:13 Sure yeah and i've had the mufon reports everything that mufon has on it and reviewed those and they yeah multiple ufo sightings including brian s he saw these silver discs that were just flying around the beardmore glacier and i believe more than more than one.

14:31 Occasion Then a lot of the MUFON files.

14:33 And then when I was down there, we were asking people at all the research stations if we could get any kind of information. My line of questioning was, have you heard of any UFO or paranormal hotspots? Have you know anything about the pyramids or antediluvian civilizations pulling out alien bodies from three large crafts, which got the nickname Nina Pinton Santa Maria? by the NSA, and they've been known since the 70s. And I've located, I.

15:03 Think, two of the three.

15:04 Quite confidently, I could say one of them appeared on Google Earth shortly after in the year 2023 or 2013. They were doing an excavation at a German base in the old Neuschwabenland area. And you can still go back to the Wayback Machine and check it out. It's absolutely remarkable. And they were digging something out of the ice, very significant.

15:35 And I will show you a picture here that later became buried under the ice. So now if you go to it, it looks like they put some kind of a tarp over the top of it. But this is what it looked like in 2023, some kind of giant machine. And remote viewers have gone in there and looked at it. There's your GPS coordinates. Do a screen capture.

16:00 Look it up. This is what it looks like today. How about that?

16:05 To me, it reminds me of circus tent poles and maybe some kind of canopy that covered this thing up. It's in the exact same spot.

16:14 Wow.

16:15 That's something definitely designed by man, it sure looks like anyway.

16:19 Oh, yeah, that one for sure. Or some kind of higher intelligence device. In fact, the Farsight Institute, they used it as a target for their remote viewers. And they came back and said that it was definitely intelligent designed craft, long defunct, just the ruins of a craft, but built for very exceptionally tall beings, whoever they were.

16:44 Wow. Let's shift gears a little bit because you have an opinion about what was behind Admiral Byrd's Operation High Jump. and the historical records and things like that. So let's hear it. We have thoughts on that.

17:00 Sure.

17:00 And just before we go, here's the other Nina Pinter, Santa Maria, the black octagon that Linda Moulton Howe's whistleblower Spartan one told him and what it would have looked like coming in from above. And then it was partially submerged in ice. So what, A lot of UFO artifacts, mystery sightings that take place down there, including what really happened with Operation High Jump. Now, these could have very well been the Honey Boo 2 craft manufactured by the Germans, the Nazis.

17:35 There you go.

17:37 That came up out of the ocean and out of holes in the ice and used a weapon that similar to what we would describe as a direct energy weapon, laser beam that sliced the USS Maddox in half. And nothing we could do with our planes or guns could take one of these down. They were pretty much impervious. They had some kind of force field. And they lost nothing.

18:03 And they wiped out just about all the planes from Operation High Jump, took out that one ship with great loss of life because you can't survive anything. in that freezing water more than a few minutes before you succumb to hypothermia. And that's why Bird made the decision to call off Operation High Jump two months into the six to eight month expedition. It was basically open-ended with a secret mission that Bird said in a press conference was, quote, military in nature before he left on High Jump. And their task was to take out base two 11 bar none and recover two UFOs, which they knew were down there at least two, but things didn't work out too well for us. And as history is written by the winners,

18:54 and if you lose a battle, that's this one sided, but control the narrative.

18:58 I think you're going to keep.

18:59 That top secret, which is what high jump is to this day.

19:04 Still top secret classified. Why? What really happened? Can't we know after 80 years?

19:11 After 80 years, I don't think that's, I can't think of too much that would be classified after all that time.

19:17 Everybody would be dead anyways. Yeah. Yeah.

19:21 Very strange. And so are there, is there any documents? How do we know this really existed and this really played out as such?

19:34 You mean the Battle of High Jump?

19:36 Yeah.

19:36 Yeah.

19:36 Multiple data points. Most come through Soviet intelligence. They were spying on us like we were spying on them. And I guess they couldn't help but a little schadenfreude that we got our ass handed to us in high jump they came out with a documentary which included interviews with eyewitnesses top admirals from the Soviet Navy and other whistleblowers it's in Russian but it has English subtitles absolutely fascinating still find it on YouTube And I think it's titled Fourth Reich in Antarctica or Nazis High Jump.

20:19 I can't remember the exact name. I do have a footnote of it in my book.

20:23 Anyways, you're asking what's the providence of the Battle of High Jump. And witnesses on the American side, including the last survivor of Operation High Jump named Robert Johnson. And he was chosen as a teenager to go with his father, or go with Admiral Byrd on this trip. Also, Byrd had a son named Robert, or Richard E.

20:48 Byrd, Jr.

20:50 He accompanied his father on the trip as a junior naval, he was already an officer. He died under very mysterious circumstances going to Washington, D.C. when he was 68, same year his father died. Also kind of mysterious circumstance, seeing that he was in great shape. Died of a heart attack in his bed. And then the son was going to Washington DC to give a keynote address about Antarctica and went missing off the train in.

21:20 Baltimore.

21:21 His body was found a month later, wearing a different set of clothes than the last people who saw him alive.

21:27 And it was clearly roughed up and it was one, one shoe on, he was dead.

21:33 So anybody that gets close to this meets an unfortunate fate, including James Forrestal. who has been said to be the first casualty in the UFO cover-up. Because he was also very good friends with Bird as well. And when Bird came back, he gave James Forrestal, who's also part of MJ-12, and was the original team to cover everything UFO-related. But when Bird came back, he gave Forrestal a stuffed penguin here.

22:04 This is a historic photo of them. And Bird told him everything. including how he got her ass handed to us at high jump, how there's still these UFOs down there, how there are Nazi bases that we can't bomb or get to. And this drove Forrest all crazy because he wanted to, he was before disclosure, he wanted to tell the world. He wasn't happy with Roswell either. And so he was known to be stalking up the halls of the Pentagon saying the Nazis are down there.

22:37 They got this technology. We can't compete with them.

22:41 And so Truman threw him in Bethesda Naval Hospital and he kept talking.

22:49 Shut up, Forrestal. We'll get you out of here.

22:52 His brother, his best friend, his brother could not even see him or get him out. Here's one of the highest ranking Navy guys in history. And he keeps talking to the doctors in Bethesda. And then he was suicided out the window with a bed sheet around his neck. So it's a dangerous subject when you are a direct eyewitness or someone who knew about this. As I said, it's still top secret. So what are they trying to hide?

23:22 If it was just a training exercise, like the cover story says, nothing top secret there. Okay, a couple guys died is what they said in a plane crash. But nothing like they don't admit to high jump. But I was saying about Russian intelligence, right? This is really interesting. This also produced some incredible documents of the Nazi UFO routes underneath Antarctica. And this, to me, is the smoking gun.

23:52 So these were all recovered by the Soviets, who, remember, were the first to get to Berlin. So they got the lion's share of Nazi intelligence. From the Kriegsmarine came these maps. They got notebooks of the... ranking officers that were in charge of sending down personnel and material they also uncovered quite a bit of the nazi sciences at the time including their concept of a hollow earth they're all documents that went to soviet high command and then the soviets when they capitulated in the 90s and became russia the ruble was going through hyperinflation so if you showed up in moscow talk to the right people with a suitcase full of hard currency they would sell you anything you wanted out of the kremlin want an alien

24:54 autopsy video yeah we got that you want a ufo crash we got that they're all on the internet now but it was also the golden age of antarctica came through the Soviets via the Nazis, sold out in the black market by the Russians. And that was also what some of this documentary that came out.

25:20 I should try to look it up because it's amazing. It's still on there.

25:24 I just saw it recently. But that's to answer your question, where this came from.

25:30 Yeah. Okay. About that documentary, if you do happen to find it in the next couple of days, just send it and I'll put it in the show links so the people that are listening or watching will be able to catch that.

25:42 Sure.

25:42 So as far as what we hear about alleged Antarctic underground bases, is this all just secondhand or has anyone ever claimed to be like has seen this firsthand in these stories?

26:01 Yeah, for sure.

26:02 There's this guy named a Russian journalist named Nikolai Subotin, and he has these maps in his possession. He's flipping through a whole stack of them. So that's why I say the providence where these come from come on very good grounds. And now it's just starting to get out on the Internet. So people are seeing them. I know Richard or Robert Seffer says, Does a lot of Antarctica videos.

26:29 He's been talking about the Nikolai Subotin files and some of these U-boat maps.

26:35 Did I read somewhere that you also go into alternative history, too? Is that some of the things that you look at?

26:43 Yeah, definitely.

26:45 German esoteric studies, for sure. A lot of that is in this book, too.

26:49 Yeah. Was that The Man in the High Castle? Did you ever see that series by chance?

26:56 I've heard of it.

26:57 Yeah.

26:57 What's the summary.

26:58 Version of it? History. That's pretty fascinating. Yeah. What do you think about the current disclosure movement or whatever you want to call it? The government involvement with that. I'm just trying to move along. I know you're looking for something, but if we can just move along.

27:15 I'm looking for that video. Yeah, I'm listening.

27:17 Yeah.

27:18 And a lot of it has to do with Antarctica. And I'm glad.

27:23 To see, I think this season, which starts next month, could very well produce some meaningful new discoveries because they're putting up another balloon that monitors the atmosphere and the rays that are coming out. Cosmic rays and radio waves have been detected coming from inside, underneath the ice sheet in Antarctica, even below the continental level. And so this season, they're putting up a new Anita array. And here's what the previous one looked like. The next one's going to be even more high tech. So if they tell us what they find, this could be leading to disclosure.

28:12 And who is actually putting that up? Is it a government thing?

28:15 Yeah, it's always funded through the National Science Foundation. Even people that work down there in one way or another, you have to get permission as well. through the NSF to go anywhere they pretty much call the shots but I think the NSA is down there as well as the enforcement arm or protecting off certain areas.

28:39 Yeah Bambi I think he's been talking about this it was Linda Moten how the interview that she did was that what would you say John S is that his name was he a Navy SEAL is that the same guy Brian S was he a Navy SEAL.

28:56 No, he was basically working on a.

29:02 C one 30 as basically know how in, in the Navy days, they would have guys that were just working on the ships, but there was for the military because per the Antarctica treaty, you are not allowed to to have any kind of military activity down there.

29:24 Oh, I found it. Thank goodness. There it is.

29:28 All right.

29:30 Capture that.

29:31 Yeah. But if I can get a link.

29:33 Right. Operation UFO Navy Nazi base in Antarctica. Complete documentary on YouTube. That's it.

29:40 OK.

29:41 Fourth Reich.

29:42 Anyways. All right.

29:43 Yeah.

29:44 Didn't get thrown off too much, but I like to find something when I'm looking for it.

29:50 All right. So what about getting back to the pyramid structures? Those pictures look really interesting, but you mentioned that they could be four sided mountains or something you would think this is just my own personal opinion but you would think if these things can actually be seen from google images that there would be someone wanting to really explore that and really understand what they are how come why do you think there's a lack of interest in people trying to figure that.

30:18 Out just so hard to get down there so hard to get permission so hard to move around the distances are vast so you'd have to have and this is what we're going to do with this film crew, put together a whole expedition. But you have to get to the okay first. Some of them, like this one, is right along the coast. And people can see it from a sailboat. There are some mountains there on the coast.

30:47 And Lost Cities author David Hatcher Childress, he said on Ancient Aliens that there's a distinct possibility that the Shackleton Pyramid, the one in the middle here, He says, is the oldest of its kind on Earth. If this gigantic pyramid in Antarctica is an artificial structure, it would probably be the oldest pyramid on the planet. In fact, it might be the master pyramid that all the other pyramids on the planet.

31:16 Earth were designed to look like.

31:18 From the second star of ancient aliens with Giorgio Tsoukalos.

31:27 And there's that one. I'll just go through them all.

31:29 This is actually on a Navy map of McMurdo Bay that was in the possession of Eric Hecker. And he let me photograph it and put it on there. And it just says pyramid way off in the distance. And then these are the famous ones from ancient aliens. Very symmetrical, very four sided. And I know someone who has seen these from an aircraft. And I asked him about it.

31:58 He said that it's a nun attack. It's just an attractive four-sided mountain. He says, we fly over it all the time. And I show it to people, but they never put down, they never did an expedition over to see it.

32:12 And so I think the jury's still out.

32:14 And that would be one of the destinations in my documentary is to go find this pyramid, like you were saying, but I'm telling you.

32:22 It's not that easy.

32:23 But to just check it out and see if there's any sign whatsoever of intelligent design.

32:30 Do we have any four-sided mountains anywhere else is that a common yeah there are just i've never never heard of it myself but there are.

32:38 Yeah and there are pyramids on mars at the 33 degree latitude in the sidonia region pyramids around the world but yeah there's pyramid peak up tahoe there's pyramid lake just north of me here in nevada and they're pyramidal in shape but they don't have the sharp edges like some of these so that's why i just say it's worth investigation they probably are none attacks but it would make a cool little adventure segment going up to see them and being able to touch them and maybe climb to the top of it that would really put it to rest and i've climbed a bunch of pyramids around the world some are the biggest in the continent such as Cahokia Mounds, largest earthen mound in pyramid shape, four-sided

33:24 in Collinsville, Illinois, just outside of St.

33:27 Louis.

33:29 I've been to the top of the Bosnian Pyramid this summer. And that is supposed to be the biggest pyramid in the world. Two and a half times the size of the Great Pyramid in Egypt, which I also climbed in 1993.

33:42 Call it a youthful indiscretion, but.

33:44 I didn't know you could do that legally.

33:46 You're not. You can't.

33:49 And what kind of trouble did you get in?

33:51 I didn't get caught. I got away with it. Yeah. A little stealth.

33:57 Yeah.

33:59 Wow.

34:00 I'm going to just switch gears and just ask you some different questions. Do you believe governments have recovered non-human technology like you hear a lot about today, NHI technology?

34:12 Undoubtedly. Don't you? Doesn't everybody? Everybody. It's so clear.

34:17 Yeah, I wanted to hear your opinion. I have to tell you, when I first heard David Grush come, I've looked at things like Roswell and stuff over the years, and I really think that there really was something to Roswell. But when he first came out in 2023, I think it was, and said that we recovered this craft and all that, I went, oh, maybe that's a little too far.

34:40 I don't know. And I've come to think that it's probably true. The first thing That people always say to me is how could they possibly crash if they got here? That type of thing. And I posed that question recently to Lou Elizondo. And he said, basically, technology is not perfect. And it crashes no matter what. Eventually, it fails. All technology can fail. You just wouldn't think along those lines.

35:07 But I think it's interesting. And along those lines, do you think that we'll ever know? Will they ever admit it? Do you think that'll happen? Or do you think it's going to be tucked away?

35:18 I think they have to admit it, but they want to do it in a controlled environment. They always are obsessed with controlling the narrative. And by doing so, this might also lead to being set up for Project Bluebeam.

35:32 I don't think we're out of the woods with that one yet either. The whole fake alien holographic.

35:37 Oh, yes. Invasion.

35:38 Yes.

35:38 But using high technology like voice to skull and put thoughts and ideas and sounds in our brain making it look very realistic and maybe even blowing some stuff up too and having casualties but to do something that people will fall for it has.

35:57 To be very alien in the coordinated fake alien invasion i've never on project blue beam i've never exactly understood the the reasoning behind why they would do that exactly is it control I don't really understand. What are your thoughts on that?

36:16 Oh, it's real clear.

36:17 And there have been whistleblowers there and even some documents that have been leaked about it. And this technology is pretty well known. So the whole goal is one world government, that it would be a way to galvanize the people of the world to fight against the alien threat, like Reagan said on the floor of the UN when he was president, that wouldn't we all unite together as a human race? But also they want to introduce the one world currency and a one world religion. Have you ever heard of the city called Astana in Kazakhstan? Even CNN called it the weirdest city in the world. And it's a pretty modern city, but it's built on all the designs and different imagery and logos. I put all this stuff in my book in the esoteric series. But Ashtana,

37:11 it would be the capital.

37:12 Of the world religion.

37:14 And Leo Lion's Gami in his book, The Last Pope, also outlines the whole plan. Through the Catholic Church and through Islam, but also Judaism, all the symbols of those religions are in the buildings of Ashtana. So they've already got the world religion headquarters ready to go. And we all know about the finance and digital currency, and they're just chomping at the bit to roll that out. And so what better way to do it all than with a one world government? That is the idea that they would get the problem reaction solution because all the people of the world would say, put an end to this alien invasion. Okay, let's join military forces and take them out like Independence Day.

38:03 This stuff will be scripted.

38:04 You got to understand, but they have to get us to go along with it. Just like any false flag operation that people have to believe it's real in order for it to be successful. So unfortunately, I think we're still not out of the water, but the more we discuss blue beam and keep on the lookout for it, the better prepared we'll be to know it's a fake.

38:27 Yeah. I can't see a human society being under control of one situation. That seems really tricky to me. Here's just a comment, but I think it's interesting. Christopher's a longtime listener in the chat almost every time we have a show here. His uncle was part of the Operation Paperclip. Long past now, its mission was to get German scientists out of Germany just after the end of World War II. Yes, and some of them went on to, that's the reason we got to the moon.

38:56 Yeah, Werner von Braun and Hermann Obrith. Remember Hermann Obrith?

39:01 He was the senior to Werner von Braun, both of which are credited for starting NASA.

39:07 And Herman Obereth.

39:10 He has, I start my Nazis in Antarctica chapter with this quote. He says, we cannot take credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped, and we have been helped by the people of other worlds.

39:25 There you go, paperclip Nazi.

39:28 They're even admitting it, that they've been backwards in engineering this stuff for over 80 years.

39:32 Yeah, I've heard that similar quote. That quote, I guess it would be the same quote. So same gentleman here, Christopher. Everything you've talked about seems to be either ancient or Nazis. What is your take on the present-day ongoing activity, like the present-day UFO sightings, etc.

39:51 I just came back from a conference in Germany and I'm giving my U-boats under the ice talk to a German audience for the first time, the largest UFO conference in Europe. And I wasn't sure how well I'd be received. Hundreds of people in the audience give my talk. You saw me at Contact in the Desert and gave this talk and showed the slides and basically produced the receipts and And I'm half Germanist myself. So in a way, it's like I'm in awe with how advanced their technology came some 80 years ago and going under the ice in Antarctica. But afterwards, you know, there's laws in Germany where you cannot talk about this kind of thing. And you can't have a swastika flag. You cannot ingrandize the

40:40 Third Reich. You can't even buy a model kit that we used to make when we were kids.

40:47 By Ravel.

40:49 They make them of the Honey Boo 2 craft. David Hatcher Childress bought one and he had to get it through Turkey. You can't own any of this stuff.

40:56 So there are laws on the books that I was talking about.

41:01 I wasn't even sure I'd get out of the country. In fact, I got pulled over two times in the airport leaving Frankfurt on that trip just to look at my computer.

41:11 And that's never happened before. Twice, even when I was sitting down. He had pulled me.

41:16 Into a room.

41:17 So I go over there and I give my talk. I'm just talking the truth. I have no incentive, no motive, no nothing. I just think there is something big going on in Antarctica. And I want people to understand that and know it. And so part of it is this Nazi base down there. And here's me giving this talk in German audience. And so afterwards, people came up to me and leave it to an American to come to Germany to tell us a true history that we're not allowed to know.

41:44 So I'm like. Pretty funny what I do.

41:48 I'm leaving for the UK in a week and giving this talk at the basis conference and They also said that the background engineering Has not ended in Germany this I didn't know so there's a mountain there down near Birch's garden and Salzburg called the Unterberg the above mountain and it is long had a history and fascination as an entrance to inner earth with the Germans and And I write about it, how the Third Reich command was fascinated with it. And we're trying to get into the Unterberg and maybe with some success because the inner world, Hyperborea and the descendants of Atlantis, but also Agartha was an absolute fascination.

42:39 To the Third Reich.

42:40 And they believed that there was that's the Aryan ancestors came from this area. And Agartha is even named on the U-boat maps.

42:50 This is in German.

42:52 This is a copy of the original document that these U-boat maps go to Agartha under the ice in Antarctica.

43:00 This is what I'm also telling the Germans. And they came up to me afterwards. I had a line of people that just wanted to tell me more corroborating evidence. And they said that in this Unterberg, there has still been seen the Honeybuttou craft flying in and out. They just have some kind of false holographic, hologram door where they can come in and out, but hundreds of people have seen it. And even the hunting lodge down in Birch's Garden, which the eagle's nest just got burned down last week. And it's just a restaurant.

43:34 It was a nice place. And there's a museum and some of the bunkers below. It's such a beautiful area. And it's got this paranormal hotspot there with all this UFO activity.

43:45 Yeah.

43:47 And my friend Frank Jacob, he was also a presenter, filmmaker. He found, with Tanya Maddenford, his partner, they found the old Birch's Garden hunting lodge where the real women with the real long hair were telepathically able to transmit and receive and put pen to paper or describe to an engineer UFO technology from Aldebaran. And this is right after World War I in the 1920s when the Germans were by far the most advanced technologically engineering people in the world.

44:25 So maybe Aldebaran, when they were still peaceful, thought we'll give them this technology. And this is also how the Germans became so incredibly advanced so quickly is because they had this technology. When Victor Schauenberger saw the Brill Women, this was one of his first drawings. He was another one of these incredible scientists that came out of Germany.

44:50 He said, this is actionable intelligence. We can work with this. And so they got incredibly advanced. Had they had another six months more in World War II, it's a pretty good chance that these wonder weapons could have stopped the tide of the Russians on one side and the Americans on the other.

45:10 But they didn't.

45:11 And then there, some of their nuclear scientists came over here. I was just up in Los Alamos. They didn't directly work in the Manhattan project, but the big guy who blew the secrets, former Nazi, that, that he got some intelligence out of Los Alamos and gave it to the Soviets. So they, the fourth Reich is another.

45:38 Outcome.

45:39 Of the Germans going to Antarctica, as well as their secret space program called Nachtwaffen, the Black Fleet. And with these UFOs that they were backward engineering and developing on their own, not only lended itself to the submarine production, because it's a pressured space, and it's also similar in design and build to these anti-gravity crafts. And there are many different designs. This is from the MUFON conference a few years ago when I was speaking there. Another presenter put this up and did his whole talk about how they were developing several different versions of spacecraft, the Vril, the Honeyboo line, even their own mothership called Andromeda, which remember the hacker out of the UK?

46:34 Yes. He's supposed to be on this show eventually.

46:38 Oh, good.

46:39 Gary.

46:39 Gary McKinnon.

46:40 Gary McKinnon.

46:41 He got some access to some human-made motherships that were presumably part of Solar Warden, but they could have easily been a crossover with the Nachtwaffen. So the cigar-shaped craft, and it's a very frequently witnessed UFO. Not just the disc, but also cigar craft and then triangle craft. So I had a one-on-one with Dr. Stephen Greer at the Conscious Awards.

47:13 We were at an award ceremony down in Miami Beach put on by Billy Carson.

47:19 And I got a few minutes one-on-one with Dr. Greer. And one of my questions was, and you would know.

47:25 This, what percentage of UFOs worldwide sighted are ours or theirs?

47:33 What do you think he said?

47:36 I don't know. I can't guess. 80-20.

47:39 80-Rs.

47:41 20% extraterrestrial or interterrestrial.

47:45 Isn't it interesting how we're always, oh, look to the skies. Extraterrestrials are going to come down to Earth.

47:52 What about right below our feet, the interterrestrials, which have also been here all the time too?

47:58 Makes you think.

47:59 But if 80% of all UFO sightings are just the countries of Earth, testing their craft, then these cigar shapes and discs in the skies and triangle craft, for sure the triangular craft, the TR-3Bs of the world.

48:18 Are all backward engineered technology. The Russians have it, of course the Americans have it.

48:23 Now I think the Chinese have it and maybe even Japan or in India.

48:29 Okay, here's another question for you here. Do you think there are any NHI or Any craft that aren't connected in any way with Nazis? I've never encountered anything connected to Nazis. What's NHI? Non-human intelligence.

48:44 Oh, yeah. For sure. Oh, God.

48:49 So many reports from massive motherships, I think, is the dead giveaway because humans would not be able to create that quickly. The Andromedans, like the scar-shaped, but they're only about what, two football fields long, where some of these motherships are said to be miles across. So there's no way humans could have built any of that in the last hundred years.

49:15 Let's talk about, I remember Peter Davenport was getting the reports of the phoenix lights in 1997 and was saying that some people were saying that it was up to eight miles wide they were thinking this thing was peak to peak it said so anyway i have all your links down below people can connect with you and find your book and books And all that. And I want to thank you so much for being on the show.

49:45 Oh, hey, my absolute pleasure, Martin.

49:47 Thank you for having me on and allowing me to connect with all your listeners. I've been chatting at the watching the comments are rolling up.

49:55 It's great. I'm glad your audience, very sophisticated, understands.

50:00 A lot of this stuff and should also be very interested in UFOs.

50:05 And then also make note of that link. Go check that out.

50:10 I'll try to find that and put that in the show notes.

50:13 Third Reich, Operation UFO, Nazi base in Antarctica, complete documentary.

50:18 Check that out. There's your Soviet intelligence.

50:22 Okay, thank you. Whoops, just cut him off. Sorry about that. So anyway, I want to thank you all and we will be back Thursday night at 8 p.m. with Lorian Fenton and next week we have Tony Woody who had a He was in the military. He had an amazing sighting. It's a great interview. That'll be on. And also the Cody UFO picture. So stay tuned for that next week.

50:47 Thank you, everyone. And remember to keep your eyes to the sky.

51:12 Okay.