NENE'S RETURN TO BRAVO! With Dustin, Claudia & Blue

Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Claudia Jordan, I wanted to give you the floor because obviously you always go viral and you are very much a part of this show, obviously.

And I want to always make.

Sure that you feel at home Whenever you want to clear the air on something, address something that the World Wide Web.

Have dug up.

And decided to, you know, try to catch you in a contradiction. So, Claudia, it's your time, your opportunity. Say what you want to say in regards to a video that went viral all over social media platforms. in regards to a time you were on TGIF and they wanted to catch you in a contradiction of compassion.

Your words, not mine. Explain to us what was going on and your thoughts on it.

We're not going to spend a lot of time on this and it will be under two minutes. It's 6.46 here. Basically, they got a gotcha moment. Like, look, here's a moment where Claudia was on T, not showing compassion to someone who just lost her husband. I'm not going to bring her name up because we're not going to just do that drag. They love that. the timeline is just different than what they thought. But anyways, even though I said in that clip, if I don't know someone, I may not say nothing to them, my actions speak louder than my words. What I actually did in real life was immediately send flowers and condolences. And without it being for social media, I never do stuff like that for the Instagram.

And look at me sending someone, being a good person, I would never do that. So I did do that. But the timeline, what you guys saw me responding to was said person took issue with the other girl's like all chipping in on a floral arrangement. And so she went off and said something. So I had a little rant about, hey man, they didn't have to do anything because y'all weren't on speaking terms. I chose to, and that was it, my decision. So that's all it was.

So there was a girl that, you know, got the video. And of course, anytime I say something, it's going to be like a gotcha bitch moment, but it's not. And at the end of the day, I still basically represented myself back then, four and a half years ago, exactly like I do now. And I, you know, I found a way to, you know, My, how I wanted to work it was I showed a little love to someone that I didn't have a relationship with, that I wasn't cool with. And that's that. And that's how I moved.

Not for everybody. Doesn't have to be. It ain't my way or the highway. That's just how I chose to do it. And y'all didn't get me or nothing because at the end of the day, I still said I did what I said I would do with someone that you know we ain't friends. And that's that. So what will you go viral? What will y'all talk about this week? Oh, so a girl that gave me a death threat online.

Is it that serious? I really encourage you to go touch some grass, a little grounding. Maybe go look at the skies and birds and feel the wind in your skin. Cause like, that's crazy to be that at the end of the day, this is a, this is a commentary show. You can yell at the TV. And then when it goes off at nine, nine 30, you should probably let it go and be like, okay, they got my blood pressure up and I can't stand it. But to go to Twitter and I do a death threat, it's crazy, but you're not the first, you're not the last. Okay. Anyways, next topic.

Yeah. No.

And I'll just end by saying this.

Listen, I don't condone anybody that does those type of things to people in terms of having those type of comments. So I'm telling you all who are watching, I don't condone it. I think it's foul. It's inappropriate.

And my raindrops, I love y'all. I don't want any of y'all doing stuff like that.

It's not becoming This platform is about, yes, we can all disagree, have fun, throw shade, do all the things. But when you run the gamut of threatening someone's life, that's when things are way too far.

And I 100% do not condone it at all.

I don't think it was a raindrop. It was someone on X. And it was like they wanted me to die in my sleep. So I don't think that's raindrop. I think that's so- Oh, no, no.

I'm just saying in general.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Our raindrops have sense, I think. I think our raindrops- Oh, they do.

They do.

But, you know, I'm really big on people that have a following who don't speak out against it.

And they just allow their.

Supporters to do crazy stuff in defense of them. And I'm never going to be somebody that stands by. So I wanted to make that very clear.

So, yeah.

I appreciate that. Sadly, I am used to it. it's kind of been happening since I was 17. You know what I mean? Like since I was in high school. So it, and that's not a woe is me thing. It's just like a, it is kind of like, unfortunately it kind of goes with the territory of being popping and being beautiful. I mean, honestly, it's a curse and a blessing, but yes, I get weighed in line, but I get dragged online.

You know what I mean?

So, right.

You think I'm a motherfucker, but your father's a nigga.

You know what I'm saying? You got to take the gang with the gang. You know what I'm saying? You want to dull my light?

My light is bright.

I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I get on your nerves. I feel good. You know, I don't know what you want me to do. I don't know, y'all. It's just commentary for me. It's just commentary. It really is.

That's all it is. That's all it is.

Look, speaking of commentary, friend to the show Kenya Moore, has gone viral because she posted a picture and immediately the internet went ablaze. Kenya Moore has not been on the Real Housewives of Atlanta coming on two years, honestly.

And she posted a picture. People went crazy.

Now, I wanted to talk about this because Kenya Moore is being accused of having plastic surgery. She's been accused of having a facelift. She's been accused of having eye surgery. People are saying that she doesn't look like the same person. So I want to go first because, listen, one thing y'all know about me, Dustin.

Claudia, and Blue, I tell y'all everything.

So when Kenya posted the picture that you guys are seeing that's on the right, I thought she looked gorgeous.

I was like, oh, you look great. I commented. I said, iconic.

And look, we all know, and I'm not going to say we all, I'll speak for myself. Everybody that I know that's on television has definitely used a filter. I don't think that's anything that's controversial. A little one-two, one-two never hurt nobody. So when I saw the photo, I honestly thought to myself, because I haven't seen Kenya, I haven't seen Kenya face-to-face in about two years. And I haven't seen Kenya post any pictures in around that same time frame, meaning recent photos. So I just thought, my girl looks good. The filter looks fine. She may got a little refresh.

And that was it.

But I didn't think this was a disturbing look that everyone else gave.

But Lou, I want to start with you.

And there's other photos that they have of Kenya.

But what did you think of this look? Is it a facelift, a filter, or.

Pumping out.

This is tricky for me because I tend to be remiss to talk about people's appearance when it comes to how women deal with aging because I think it's a really sensitive topic and Kenya I've always said this has one of my favorite faces in reality television I think Kenya is one of the most gorgeous women I have ever seen in my life I am very partial to our Detroit sister and the way that she's always looked since I saw her on TV in the early 2000s and late 90s. And so I have a very nostalgic tie to Kenya's face. So I immediately was like, what role?

What's that?

Like I immediately did a role, right? I didn't judge it. I was more confused. So like you, I thought it was a filter. I was like, oh, maybe it's just a funny angle from an aggressive filter.

That's all I thought.

Still a beautiful girl.

And here's the thing guys, if we had not seen Kenya's original face, this is not an unattractive face, right?

So I thought maybe it was just a very aggressive filter.

Then I started seeing clips of her in the pageant where it looked like she was like still kind of tight and maybe recovering.

And then I was like, okay, well, she's had a procedure.

We all know whether you've had a procedure or not, it takes time for your face to settle, for you to heal. Remember when Kris Jenner showed up with a baby Kardashian face?

Mm-hmm.

She let that heal. So my first thought wasn't, I hate the procedure. It was, baby girl, you haven't healed yet. This is the first draft of whatever face you're working up towards. Maybe you should have given yourself more downtime. So I still think it's too early to call it because I know many of girls, I live in LA.

I live in LA and I have friends in New York, Miami, like all types of places that get surgery. So I just think we're being a little bit premature. And though, I do miss her original face.

I think she's a gorgeous woman, but it's not my place to tell her what to do with herself because who's to say that when I reach her age, I'm not going to want to get a nipper or tuck here. I will say this though.

Black women because we're seen as the ones who black don't crack it don't crack but it does get ashy okay some of y'all need to moisturize some of y'all do look like what you've been through respectfully and so even though black don't crack I think we sometimes don't give as much grace for black women who live in a space where their looks are part of how they pay their bills trying to keep up with the crowd if Christiana could do it why can't we show the same risk to Kenya Moore that's.

All I'm going to say.

Dustin Yeah, listen, we live in a world where men are walking around with 360 brush wave wigs and shit, spraying on beards.

Women walk around with.

Snuff-a-luff against ass eyelashes and shit, wigs. People do whatever they want to do to make themselves feel good when it comes to their appearance. I'm not mad at Kenya Moore for doing whatever she did. I think there is a difference when you look at her from before to now. these most recent pictures from that pageant or whatever, but so the fuck what? Kenya is a 50 something year old woman. And if she decided to get a little tug or a pull, that's on her. As long as she happy, I don't give a shit. I think people should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to do to themselves as long as they happy. So that's how I feel.

My only issue is if it's bad work and it's not bad work, it's going to settle and she's going to look fine. I mean, when I saw it, I just assumed it was one of the filters that you could put on a video. That's what I thought at first. But then when she turns aside, she looks a little different. Here's the thing when you're in that position and when you're a beauty pageant queen in particular, there's such an emphasis on your looks and people do not let you age gracefully. Even when you think that, oh, there's nothing wrong with her face the way it was. Let me tell you, I bet you... She's had a million comments saying otherwise. They've been dragging her for years, talking about her skin, her this or that. They never let her breathe.

They always say, yeah, but, yeah, but, but her skin, but her this. And listen, at the end of the day, these people are human, you know, and it gets to you after a while. And I don't even think she's doing it for the people. I think she probably felt, she's damn near 60. The girl, the woman is still drop dead gorgeous. How old is she? You look at your face every day and you see things, you see things starting to sag and the neck skin and all that kind of stuff. I'm not mad at anyone getting work that makes them feel better about themselves. I just don't like when they get the crazy looking work. And I do think that with those, I think those facelifts, they take, if we're just assuming, let me just say that, right?

It takes like a year, right?

Yeah, at least six months to get your final result. It could be threads. You could have had threading done.

I don't know.

But hey, when it settles, she didn't get anything super severe where she's like, crazy looking. So we'll see. But I'm not mad at her. And I get it. She's been looked at for her looks since well before 1993.

She's 55. I just checked, guys. Kenya Moore is 55.

She looks great.

She's so pretty to me. It's going to take a lot for y'all to get me to say anything else. That lady's gorgeous to me.

She's so pretty.

Yeah.

Very unique look.

There's not a lot of people that look like her either. You know what I mean? She has a very distinctive look So, you know, that's the thing about when you get these little tweaks. Like, you want to look like a better version of what you already look like. And sometimes these doctors want to snatch you. But I think when it settles, if it is a facelift, we don't know.

She's going to look damn good.

Let it settle.

And a lot of the hospitals have had little tweaks done. And if it makes them feel better or look better, then I think you should do it.

And let's be honest, right?

Like, she had whatever procedure we're.

Assuming that she had done.

When she got that call to be a part of that celebration for the Miss USA pageant, she wasn't going to miss that.

Work be damned.

You know what I'm saying? She was not going to miss that. And so she did what she had to do to be a part of that moment. And I get that. So I'm sure the next time we see her, she'll look a little bit different in a good way.

This is Reality with the King.

And I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

And don't always have like, right when something big pops up, it's like right after when you need to sit down for a while, they'll be like, we need you next Tuesday.

Like, damn it. I was taking braids out, Claudia, from the back of my head when CNN called.

I had to do a side swoop to hide the afro in the.

Back of my.

I looked... I was on there like this the entire time. Like, hey, reporting live from D.C.

You got to do it, though. You know what I mean? When they call you, it's usually for a live shot for that day. And you're like, all right. It can't be like, oh, I'm taking my braids out. Or I just had a mid-face. You know what I mean? Like, no.

Yeah, I'll be there.

Back of my head looking crazy.

Yep, we'll be there. Shout out to you, Kenya.

No, and the thing is this.

Listen, Kenya Moore has been beautiful her entire life. And she's not the first, nor will she be the last person if she did get something done, right? She has not spoken out about this. We don't know what happened. She literally hasn't said anything. You know, most people get defensive and start, you know, going off on the comments.

She hasn't done that.

Thank God.

Yeah, no, she's... Listen, I remember when me and Nene did our live show, she was talking to the audience about the fact that, you know, being a reality star is very tough because you have so many people judging you, saying your nose is big, this is big, this is small, or whatever, and that when you do have a career on television and, like, you all are saying... aging, you do want to fix something, but God forbid you do it, they talk about the stuff that you did.

And NeNe was very honest. She said, well, damn, you hated this, now you hate that.

And that's why the one thing that I do think we all are saying is, her body, her choice.

You know what I'm saying? I agree with Dustin.

I think if she did get something done, which again, she hasn't said it, it does settle.

I did do my research as a journalist.

Hey, Claudia.

And as a journalist... I did speak to.

I spoke to a person that gets plastic surgery.

I can be anybody, child.

Okay.

Exactly.

I'm not going to put a name on it. And this person said to me that... Because I want to answer Dustin's question. This person said when you get... There's two surgeries... Plastic surgery on the face. Obviously the main one is the facelift that Kris Jenner got, right? And that is a, that's like.

A 200 through $ 250, 000 operation.

Okay. Okay.

When you get a facelift, it takes six to eight months to be fully settled.

Ah, got it.

Fully settled six to eight months. Okay? Like, fully. Like, fully.

Now, when you get the tear below a facelift, I forgot the name of it, that takes up to four months to.

Get fully settled. So I just wanted to add the factoids to this conversation.

But, as somebody that used to wear dye in their hair, one thing I would.

Beijing King in the house!

We ain't gonna act like.

One thing about me, I will roast myself before the next bitch does.

I have embraced my bald head. It took a minute. Thank you, Justin. I appreciate that.

And by the way, I get way more men being bald than I did with the spray tan.

I think you look younger and better like that. But I understand it doesn't matter what we think. It's how you feel about yourself, right? So it's like you felt a way about letting it go because it's like a different phase of your life. And there's nothing wrong with that. Like, I don't know what it feels like to be a man that... sees their hairline going back, and then you're like, you know what, I'm going to cut it off. And probably you don't want to accept it at first. But guess what? When you did, everyone's like, yo, you look good.

But can I ask a question? Because we're all friends in real life.

That's how I say it.

Okay.

Was there ever a moment you guys thought to yourself, Carlos, it's time to let that shit go?

Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Not for me.

Yes.

We love you so much. Thank you, Claudia, for being honest.

Yeah, I know. Because you was trying to do this, and it started to look too much. And I was like, it would probably look better gone.

And this is a man, so he can sympathize with you.

That's probably why he didn't feel like that, because he has the male sympathy.

I didn't think he was walking around looking like fucking Jermaine Jackson.

Nobody is.

His shit was.

He just.

Had his enhancements. And I know a bunch of motherfuckers that get that.

So for me... You know, it just wasn't a thing for me. I knew you was happy, my nigga. And it wasn't crooked. It wasn't like that.

Oh, my God.

It wasn't. It was nothing for me to say.

It wasn't crooked. It's supportive shade. That's the most supportive shade.

I've ever heard in my life.

Well, at least it wasn't crooked.

It's crazy work, Dustin.

Boom, boom, boom.

I was so happy when you got rid of it, though.

Don't talk to me, Claudia.

Listen.

All right.

Listen, we're friends.

Go ahead, Claudia.

Say it, boo.

Yeah, no, because I'm traumatized from Beijing Negroes.

Same.

Had one, fucked up all my towels, all my pillowcases. I'm like, I don't have black pillowcases. You tearing my shit up. You know what I mean? And it was just everywhere. It was just everywhere. All over the place. And I would go to touch it, do all that stuff.

Anyways, I.

Think it's good at first when you still have some left, but when you're trying to create a whole hairline, it just gets harder and harder and harder to keep it up. And you have such a cute face. But I get how seeing yourself differently. I see things on my face where I'm like, oh, my neck, the skin is sagging.

And then, you know, I'm going to tell you right now, I haven't had any surgery on my face yet, but this neck will be getting snatched back up.

Really?

Yes, because the neck is getting very crepey. I gained 30 pounds when I moved to Texas and I lost like 20 pounds.

Well, no.

Oh, so it just leads. And it's just creepy. And then certain angles, it's like a double chin. My mom has that. Yeah. And I'm not going to deny it. I'm probably going to talk about it because I'm going to have to. You know what I mean?

And we'll let it settle. And we'll give you grace the way we did with Kenya.

I don't know what to say.

Carlos, when you were doing the Kardashian recaps with me all those years ago, had you let go of the Beijing yet?

No.

Yeah, because I'm trying to pick my moment. I'm going to just say this.

For those who don't know the lore, for those who don't know the lore, about, what is it, three years ago? Yeah, four years ago, in 2022-ish, Carlos and I did some Kardashian recaps. And I remember when I came back to do Monday Night Live, I said, oh, hey, friend, you look refreshed.

And it took me a couple.

Of episodes to figure out that you were no longer a Beijing king. So just know as somebody who left you, gave you a couple of years to figure it out and came back, I was very pleasantly surprised.

Listen, the reason why, first of all, Braindrop, if you don't have friends like these, you don't have friends. I'm telling you, there's nothing that makes me love them more than their blunt honesty.

And in their defense, I asked for it.

So Braindrop, when you ask your friend for the truth, you should listen. So really quickly, I started losing my hair.

Okay, let me go back a little bit. So Dustin, you know in Detroit....

I was born, I was raised in the 80s.

I was born in 79.

I was raised in the 80s and we used to get those S curls.

You know like the pretty boys would have the little curls, right? And you would perm your hair and that shit would burn.

And then Dustin and Claudia and Blue, I would have those like little twists that would go down, whatever. And we use Jam and Pump It Up Sprint. Okay, Dustin, thank you. Because I thought I was the ultimate pretty boy. My email address used to be prettyboylose at Hotmail.

Jesus.

Because I, you know, I was like embracing that.

Look at Claudia's face. She's like, wait, what? Claudia, bitch, don't do it. That was my email, Claudia.

So.

I started losing my hair in my late 20s.

Like thinning. Thinning. So I moved to Atlanta. No shade to Atlanta.

90% of the black men in Atlanta get enhancement. Not that they need it. They just get it because they like the precision of the hairline.

Okay.

So I was introduced to it and I love it. However, I didn't realize that all barbers are not equal.

Mm-hmm.

Some barbers don't know how to do it.

Okay?

So, last year, I was dating someone. And, hey, Dustin.

It felt good to be honest. It felt good to be honest.

Come out.

That seemed difficult for you.

To say that, Carlos.

We got to talk about that.

I was dating someone last year.

And I.

Was in a location where they didn't do the enhance. I was in New York for the weekend. And they don't do enhancements in New York. So the barber said to me, bro, you don't have no hair.

Shave this shit off.

You know how New Yorkers are. And I was like, what do you mean? He said, bro, trust me. You have like a baby face.

Shave it off. He shaved it off.

I went home and the guy said to me, oh, you look good.

And that's the reason why I've been bald ever since.

Yeah.

Once you go bald, you never go back. That's good.

Yes.

Yes. Yeah.

So that's, you know, that's my story. But before I continue, Claudia said her next.

So Dustin Blue, I would like to ask, is there any form of plastic surgery you guys would love to get?

Yeah, I want everything. Oh, wow.

Wait.

I want everything. I want it all.

I want a thigh job.

I want shit you ain't even heard of yet.

Wait, what?

No.

I want every goddamn procedure you can fucking get.

Do it to me.

Listen, I've seen your thighs. You're fine.

What are you saying?

I want it. I want it.

You want the Beyonce thigh gap?

I want everything done to me. Give me a new toe. I want everything. Whatever the fuck I got. I want my earlobes done. I want everything. You know what I'm saying? Give me anything I can get.

I only want one surgery. That's it.

I ain't really tripping on none of that shit. It's a couple things I would consider doing. But if I do, you know, I don't know if I would share. I would just do it.

And see people notice it.

Well, I have to share.

Mine because they're about to see us in September, friend. They're going to see what it is.

Oh, wait, you're getting something done before the live show?

No, but I'm a G cup and I would like to get a.

Oh, you're in a reduction.

Fix your face, Carlos. But I'm a... As a G slash H cup, I would like to get a breast... Carlos, I can still see you.

I'm sorry.

So I would like to, you know, get them just... Give some away. I don't need it. So I would like to do that.

That, it just.

Yeah, yeah.

Does your back hurt from them?

Yeah.

And I got into a car accident. And so because of the car accident, plus the yiddies.

Yeah.

It's starting to catch up. I've never been a back hurting kind of girl. And I do have dysmorphia where I didn't really realize I had tickle bitties. But as I get older, I'm like, oh, these things are they're thinging. They're heavy and they're big. And you see your hat, Dustin?

Yeah.

Two of those on my chest.

My cousin, my cousin titties was a size H, a H cup. And she got a reduction down to a C and then she was like a nicer person after that. She was more pleasant to be around and shit. You know what I'm saying? After she got them titties off her back, you know what I'm saying? She, she lightened up.

She was a nicer woman after that. Yeah.

I'm ready to give her these. Yeah.

Just be careful who you go to. We all know that. I had a reaction to, I had filler and I had these dents right here. And like about 10 years ago, I went and had like filler done, like just like a half of violin each side. And I would do like every like three years, just like a touch up right there. And it would just keep me looking like, you know, it would just fill in this little space.

But when I had my toe surgery done and I had a dental implant done in the same month, I was on two rounds of antibiotics. And I don't know if there's not a lot of studies with this. The filler was like a year and a half old. So it was like old. It wasn't like I just had it done. And when I tell you I had the craziest reaction where my face was severely deformed and I still had to do T and all the comments where you're messing with your face.

I remember this.

It was so mean. I can tell. And they don't, even a couple people tonight are saying, oh, I remember she tried to lie. I had a reaction. So they gave me a steroid to take it. And they were like rock hard, like where the filler was. So I had a steroid to take it, to try to bring it down. That didn't work. Then they injected the dissolvers to get rid of it all. Then it created more of a hollow space. So then I had to put filler back in. It was like a year long. I did it four times in, out, in. So then I had everything dissolved out. And I do have a filter on my video because I do have... Now the line here is deeper than it was before I ever had filler.

Because I had it dissolved so many times, it ate away at my fat right there. And then a worse position. So antibiotics, surgeries. I talked to doctors. They're like, we don't know. There's not enough studies done. I don't know what it was, but it was really bad. And I got on Ozempic that month too. So it was like a lot of.

Damn, Claudia.

Wow.

Yeah, during the.

Pandemic, I was chunky.

I gained 30 pounds. What, you got a bundle? You got a bundle deal?

A bundle package?

Oh, is that mixed with a toe surgery bundle? It was so bad. I just want to share with you, like, I didn't even look like the same person. And having to still come on the show and work every week and do it, and then, like, People are in there like commenting. They're not believing my story. They're thinking it's just like, but it was a crazy reaction. Like I was like this and I'm like, what? Rock hard. It was crazy and scary. Super scary. But anyways, dissolved it.

I'd rather just look a little bit older than have all those issues and a deformed face. Oh, let me see. Look, I'm going to show y'all.

Wait, you have a photo? No, I want to see it. I would like to see it.

I would like to see it.

Look.

That doesn't even look like you.

Yeah. And my face was lopsided. My eyes were swollen shut. And then this was just two weeks before that.

I looked normal.

Oh, that's heartbreaking. I had to deal with it for years, for three years, just trying to get my old face back. It wasn't even about trying to get procedures done. I don't want to look like I did 15 years ago. I want to look like I did three years ago. I only share this because I want people to just know that this is something that could really happen. You can get so swollen. Look how swollen.

They're going to make a meme out that shit.

Look at my face, how swollen I look.

Oh, wow. It looks painful, friend.

It did. And it was like rock hard in my cheeks. And this was just two weeks earlier. And I remember going home to a... Oh, look at this one. Look how big my face was right there. I had a big face right there.

That looks like a random Puerto Rican.

That don't even look like.

And I went home to Rhode Island, right? And my family, one of my uncles who got literally, rest in peace, four teeth in his mouth, right? He's like, damn, Nisha, your face got big. And I was like.

Eat some corn. That's what I would have said. I get it.

Whistle. Whistle. No, I'm just kidding.

No, whistle.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was bad.

So I took it all out. And I know I get accused of my lips. I just line my lips super outside the lips to make it look like bigger. But when I wipe this off.

Girl, you can have some of mine. Because the way men attack me for what they used to call it in the 90s, DSLs.

DSLs. What the hell?

Hey, did you guys hear the news? I'm sorry. Breaking news. Keith D. Keith D. just got found guilty of the murder. 30 years.

No.

The Tupac murder?

Oh, no.

It just came out.

Wait, he was found guilty of murdering Pac?

Yeah.

Do we think he did it?

I'm sorry, 30 years later.

I'm sorry.

Keefie D just got found guilty of Tupac murder.

True?

I think so.

Okay.

Found guilty.

Okay. Okay. Wow.

I have thoughts.

Oh, wow.

Okay, well.

I know.

That's a whole different- Anyways, back to my face. All right. You look good, sis.

All right, so our final topic is we are going to some raindrops.

NeNe Leakes is back on Bravo. Cue the sound effect. Applause, please.

Yes.

Okay. No, it was....

It was a moment.

Me and Dustin do the full episode recap on Patreon, so make sure you guys check that out. What I wanted the Monday Night Live crew to talk about, obviously, is the fact that NeNe Leakes is back on Bravo. As we all know, NeNe Leakes hasn't been on Bravo since season 12. We know some legalities happened throughout the whole situation. They are celebrating 20 years of the Real Housewives franchise, and NeNe Leakes was one of the hosts of the Atlanta pit stop where they were at a drag show and she surprised the ladies. One of my favorite moments of this was seeing Kyle Richards run up on stage, grab Mimi and hug her, but also seeing the other reactions. Dustin, I know, I really want you to talk in blue your thoughts on how Mimi was

received from the crowd of cast Because do you think all of them were happy to see Mimi? Or do you think some just fell in line because the cameras.

Were on them?

What you're asking me is about Vicky's ugly ass, right? And you're asking me if I thought she was happy to see Mimi leaks. And I don't think she was. She probably didn't even know who the hell Mimi is. And she done met her several times. She sat over there and was unwilling to participate in anything the whole damn trip. And now the throng of housewives... is rallying behind Nene, showering her with love. Of course she going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

She started doing all that shit. I can't stand Vicky. I don't think she was happy to see Nene, but I believe everybody else genuinely was, and I'm part of the people that was happy to see Nene. It felt good to see her ass on television again.

It did. Blue?

I think, I agree with Dustin, although he said it much more callfully than I would have said it. I think Vicky has some salty feelings that she's the first housewife, but Vicky, but Nenecine is the best.

Being a first and being the best, not the same thing, baby girl.

Okay.

Ask Chyna. We do something, they do it 10 times better.

So I just feel like there's a certain level of reverence that Nene has, the certain success that Nene has. There's even a certain way that even with all the legal stuff that happened with Annie, they both left and are coming back, right?

There's a big hoopla being made about Nene coming back, not so much about Vicky coming back. So I do feel like, you know that movie, what is it? Us, Them, They. What's the pronouns, child? With Jordan Peele and the real people.

Us.

There we go.

I feel like Nene is her untethered. She's the one she believes that she's, if you've seen the movie, it's amazing.

You know what I'm talking about.

She believes that all the things we give Nene belong to her just because she was a white woman who went first.

Well, they don't.

And nobody else agrees.

They don't. Nobody else agrees. If she could show this photo umbrella up her ass.

I'm sick of her on that show being mean to everybody, talking shit about everybody, not wanting to do nothing, talking about she don't watch Atlanta Housewives.

Of course you don't watch that.

Of course you don't. Orange County, which is a.

Very- Racist-ass area of California, yes.

Very racist.

Call it out.

And here's the thing, too. I will say this.

I think that there's a certain level of coolness that Nene has that Vicky can't pay for. It doesn't matter how much you whoop it up or how empty your love tank is.

Nobody cares. Nobody cares. You're not making fetch happen. It's been 30 years. We still don't care. You left, we didn't even notice. You came back, we're like, all right, then.

We were glad.

Right?

So I do think that Nene and Vicky are the perfect reality equivalent of what it's like when you are a magical Negro in a corporate setting and the bitch who's been there for 30 years and helps buy the paperclips think that she's somebody just because she was there forever.

But you're the one who's popping and getting employee of the month.

And I love that Nene pays her dust because why wouldn't she? Nene is, love her, loathe her. She's in the Mount Rushmore of reality stars. Not just in America, in the fucking world, right? Put some respect on her name.

Giselle D.

Bryant.

I know you see her as the blueprint star Well, Nene's the ink.

So I have nothing but I'm going to say about Nene because I had Wi-Fi back then and I have a good memory.

So Nene is the goat and can't nobody else say anything about it except for fucking Vicky who's going to die salty. But go ahead. Who's next?

Before I get to Claudia's point of view, I do want to.

And Claudia, you can chime into this one, but I want to get to her slow point of view in a second because I don't want to.

Lose the moment that... Because I've been recapping with Dusty. So... Nobody's a hater.

No, not to....

Sorry, I'm triggered.

I'm triggered.

No, Carlos King, calm down.

Dustin's weekly recap of Vicky sends me over the edge, right?

So, Blue and Claudia, I've been accustomed to it. I'm used to it.

You know, I've been like lubed up and I got good going on.

Right. I'm good, right?

It's slippery when wet, right? How you doing?

But I do want to have a conversation about this because Dustin obviously asked what you've been saying for the past four weeks.

I never looked at it that way and I'm so curious. Like I said, Claudette, I would love for you to chime in on this too.

Blue, you said something that I never really thought of so plainly, which is Could Vicky's... disdain in terms of this energy she has on the show that a lot of people are seeing and have said I do a recap of OC with Alexis Jansen and last week I did a poll on my Spotify comments saying are you guys happy Vicky is back yes or no I have 43 comments and I'm not it's no bullshit watch the episode I have 43 Spotify comments all 43 said we're not happy she's back we were over her all 43 right Now, granted, that's not the entire world, but my point is a lot of people have noticed Vicky's sort of bitterness. And when you said when Nene... The idea of Nene coming back, everybody talked about it. It broke

the internet. Ultimate Girls Trip trended number one last night. It never trended number one until Nene got there. And I never thought about it.

Like, could Vicky feel some kind of way because... She is the first, with all due respect. She's the first draft, bitch.

She's the first draft.

She's the first draft, as you said.

And it's a rough one.

A rough draft. But she's not the best.

And I never looked at it that way that there is something to be said about just because you're the first doesn't mean you should get the same respect as the person who did it the best.

And she's black, too? You got usurped by a Negro? Yeah, she's in her feelings, child.

I agree. I mean, I watched how they all rallied around Nene. It looked like it was fun. Everyone seemed lighter and friendlier and happier. They were happy to see her. I thought it was a nice moment to see. It was good for Nene. Nene looked so happy as well. Portia was happy. Faye was happy. The other girls were happy. Vicky, from what I understand, there's never really been no beef between her and Nene, but I can definitely Listen, Orange County, that is MAGA country. I'm sure they didn't like the rise of rural housewives of Atlanta. Seeing their show and then one-upping them. And then also, here come the Potomac Girls, another black franchise that's also way more entertaining from what I know. I didn't watch all OC. I tried to

watch a couple episodes here and there. I really don't care. It's the black girls. They get it popping all the time. And when you think about Atlanta Housewives or Housewives period, you don't think about NeNe. And she deserves it. So I could see it being annoying to Vicky. Like, I was the first, you know? But that doesn't matter. That's why it never really means anything to me about who's first.

It's who's best or who's memorable or who's popping. Who can move the needle? And I've never heard... I'm an outsider when it comes to that show. But when you're really popping, you can be an outsider and you'll still hear about that person. You know what I'm saying? You will still... Their star power or their personality or story about them will find their way into your world. You know what I mean? I've never heard anything. I don't know nothing about Vicky.

Except that she looks like meatloaf.

She need to go see Kenya's doctor.

She look like that singer Meatloaf.

Oh, I would do anything for love.

But I won't do that. I won't do that.

But I will say, I will say this. I know we dragged her a little bit, but from what I saw, I do think that Vicky does respect Nene and has no, she has to.

She's scared, Claudia.

She's scared of him.

And that's very different.

I think she respects her, like, you know, her star power. But you can still be jealous of something. You could be like, okay, I see how you did it. But I'm still mad at you and not me and not black girl at that. I'm sure.

You negress. How dare you?

And like Giselle said, Giselle said, me and Nene got a little bit of beef and Nene can kick my ass.

So I'm going to keep it cute. I like Giselle for reading the room. Okay. I actually liked, let me tell you something.

Portia, Nene, Giselle all being in the room. I love it when the vets show how the fuck it's done.

Yeah. I love that shit.

I miss when it was light and pithy and pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, and shade, TT, and then we have drinks. I miss that level of audacity and thick skinness. And I think in the last maybe three to five years, there's been a sensitivity that has crept into me.

The different franchise of different shows, right?

From Potomac to Atlanta, to all the different shows that is a little bit meh, a little bit Eeyore. I hope anybody from the franchise is watching how the vets do it. Remember, this is a job. Put your skates on and roll over them bitches. Like this is a job, have fun with it. So I love seeing that kind of energy.

It's also easy. Oh, go ahead.

And Nene has been gone, but she ain't forgot how to do what she does because she shut Giselle's ass down with a quickness. Giselle thought she had one. She thought she had a little smoking gun. Like you said, you told Karen to beat me up. Nene was like, I'm sorry. I was just talking shit.

I'm sorry.

Shut it completely down. And we went right on along. And that's how you be a good housewife. Nene just gave y'all a masterclass just like that.

Yeah.

She's like, yeah, we're not going to get into an argument over this. And, and yeah. Because if anyone, you know, yeah, she didn't need to do all that. But it was nice. It is easier. I will, of course, acknowledge it's a lot easier to have a few good scenes when it's a shorter run, right? Than when you're year after year with the same people. It's like easy, but to like beef.

But I thought it was a nice, nice change to see after the reunions are over to see them come, to see all the girls together and like it being fun, reminding us of the golden era of our HOA and all the other shows, like just being light and fun with a little shade. It ain't like it was boring. It was, but it was still, it was cute. It was like what we, what made those shows popular. I liked it.

Yeah.

No, listen, listen, you can't argue Nene's impact and you can't argue that the moment a camera is on her, she shines.

Even when she pulled up in the white Range Rover and wrote down.

The window, her saying something so simple as welcome to Atlanta, bitch. Like just that alone reminded you that Nene is one of those rare humans where she's able to just be naturally funny.

Yeah.

Right?

Like she's natural. Brody, she's naturally funny, right?

One thing that she did say that melted me a little bit is when she was honest and vulnerable about being nervous.

Like being nervous, being around the women.

Because, and a few of the audience on Twitter did ask me about this. And one of the things they asked me was, because Nene has shared this publicly.

So that's the only reason. Hold on a second.

Brody, come here.

Nene has shared this publicly.

Listen to you. Brody, get your ass up.

Sit your ass down.

I'm going to kill you. I'm going to fuck one of her cats.

So the thing is this. Mimi has shared this publicly on my YouTube. That's the only reason why I'm talking about it. And she shared it when we were doing our show together. When she got the call, she.

Was 100% 50-50 on doing it.

And she's been very open and honest about, she called me and she said, what do you think? And I said, bitch, I don't care how much they're paying you. I don't care about the dollar. Now look, we all deserve our worth. Don't get me wrong.

Right?

But I felt that due to the circumstances that's surrounding that, I did encourage her to think about the bigger picture. Like, this is your house. You built this house. These girls can walk because of you. Like, this is your shit. And what the three of you are saying, which is so paramount, look. You don't have to like Portia. You don't have to like Giselle. But to me, the black girls on the girls' trip are the ones that are keeping the show going.

And all the girls.

Are, right? 1,000%. When they have something to say, you know it's going to be funny. They're bringing the glam. They don't have those sourpuss faces.

Yeah.

Portia's bringing the glam for sure.

Hey, man.

I'm trying to be like Carlos Knight, and I'm loving all the girls.

I love all the girls, Patti.

I love all the girls.

Dustin, who needs better glam? Who needs better glam?

Oh, my God.

Wow, wow, wow.

Well, I was really talking about the trio of Nene, Portia, Phaedra.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

They really came very glamorous. Giselle's wig was a little off But she looked pretty, her face.

Why don't you reach in for your neck?

Because I have, my neck is tore up.

So this was in solidarity?

Okay, yeah.

No, not solidarity.

I'm just, I'm sorry.

Phaedra had on a beautiful red fox fur coat when she walked in. You know, as a Michigan nigga, it caught my eye. That red fox fur coat she had on was gorgeous when she walked in.

They all had their furs on. I love that.

The Atlanta girls, they showed up. They showed up. And probably some of them Orange County old ladies, they was like, my person didn't show me that. You couldn't carry that.

That part.

I think the thing, too, that I think Claudia and Dustin are hitting on the fact of there's a certain level of coolness that the black girls have.

And then Giselle. Giselle's so pretty. That's why she gets away with being looking like a Claire's ambassador.

But... For the other girls, though, who have that fashion sense, there's a certain level of something that they have where Kyle, I will say this about Kyle, okay?

Kyle's middle name might be Keisha because the way.

Kyle was dropping it at Boze's wedding in Ghana, Kyle likes the niggas.

Can we say that? Okay, I'm so sorry. But Kyle likes us, okay?

She wants to be, I don't believe in inviting white people to the barbecue, but she can get it to go plate.

And so I think Kyle sincerely went.

To Spider-Monkey Nene and Fangirl, and I love that. Because I think the other white women were like, oh, okay, so we can do this? Yeah, Vicky, go choke on a chicken bone. But everybody else, I think they're taking notes from the black girls. And I think a lot of people who say stuff like, I don't watch Atlanta, I don't watch Potomac, might find themselves being wooed out of their MAGA haze and being like, so what else is going on over there?

You never know.

And I can see why some of the white girls might be feeling that their shit don't stink and they're better than the black girls. Because for many years, there was complaints about them not putting the same money into Housewives of Atlanta with the cast photos and all that. And I'm sure there was some nasty-ass conversations at, you know, what's Vanderpump's restaurant about... same pictures huh you know they probably feel a way about that but then no matter what like black people do we know how to make the most with the least and make it look good and you I'm sure there's some a little bit of feeling about that like we you know you can't really keep black people down they still gonna shine baby.

And the Italians, Teresa.

She's light-skinned in my eyes. So Teresa and Kyle, we'll take y'all in the trade.

Well, Teresa is Italian and Italy was conquered by the Moors.

Knucking and bucking and ready to fight. Yeah.

I've been telling my Italian people, I'm like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

Some of y'all nappy. Some of y'all look like us.

Yeah.

I can't.

Go to Sicily.

There's niggas in Sicily.

I'm just saying.

I can't.

I'm getting mad.

Listen, out of the white people, they're the ones that will use a spice rack. I'm just saying.

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Okay.

Love you guys. See you on the next one.

Bye. Bye.

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