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Untraditionally Lala

Football, Fashion & Reality Checks

Mittwoch, 21. Oktober 2026 · 48 min

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Lala, Lisa and Easton discuss Ocean's ongoing war against football Sundays, how Victoria's Secret is redefining what a runway model looks like and why Bronwyn isn't the first Bravolebrity to compensate a friend for appearing on camera.
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Hello gorgeous, it's Lala Kent. Welcome to Untraditionally Lala. Hello gorgeous, welcome back to Untraditionally Lala. We are coming into hump day. We're surviving. You guys last week was just shy of torture. I haven't been.

I don't know how you did it.

You don't?

Nah, I really don't either. You were a busy bee yesterday.

Can I tell you, though, it makes me feel really good when.

From hive to hive.

When you called me and you, like... I'm the type that needs words of affirmation.

This whole family does. Yeah, we all do.

But when you and mom called me and you were, like, tooting my horn, it felt really nice. And I was like, I'm going to show them how great I can be. Jesus.

You were it's almost like great when you've done a lot and then somebody like is.

Like acknowledges it you're like fuck you i can even do more.

You think i'm great i'm gonna be even greater it's kind of like when your mom said tell a child they're good they'll be good tell them they're bad they'll be bad so true like when ocean's acting a fool and i'm like i love when you listen you're such a great listener and then she starts to listen that's.

How i am yep We all are.

And I'm grown. I'm grown. It doesn't even change anything. But I'm telling you, we got to the weekend and it was like Saturday. We have soccer. Then we have a birthday party. Then I have something tonight. Like getting to Sunday, which by the way, Sunday was like exactly how I pictured it would be in my mind.

Relaxing.

Relaxing.

Not a vegetable or a fruit in sight.

Just carbs.

How about that bread?

Which one?

Which one? The apple, I didn't think it would be good. And boy, was it tasty.

It slapped. That sourdough is to die for.

So we started the morning off with, I don't even know what everyone had. But then we ordered pizza, breadsticks, sweet cinnamon breadsticks.

Yeah, we got the game day box.

We got the game day box.

And then we had Justin.

Yeah.

In the desert.

Come in and make a Biscoff cookie sourdough bread and then he made an apple.

With the white chocolate.

With white chocolate. Oh.

Don't forget the white chocolate. That's Lisa's favorite.

And keep in mind.

My favorite thing is putting a little like bowl of white chocolate.

Or just a treat in front of Lisa and Ocean and watch them bicker with each other about it.

Oh, I did eat a fruit yesterday. I ate chocolate-covered strawberries. Because Ocean was like, I told her... And bananas. Sunday, I'm not a mom. I'm not your mom on Sunday.

Like, I'm too tired.

She, like, wanted to play tag. I was like, no, not today, girl.

She really loves playing tag, and I really don't enjoy it.

No, you're not fun, but you're really cute when you do it. And... And normally, you know, we do that stuff. But I told her, Sunday, Ocean, what you need to understand is it's football day. And she goes, it sounds so boring. And I was like, that's what it is today. I'm not chasing you around the house. I'm not playing. Like, I need, I'm sitting on the couch. And luckily, my kids, like, listen, which is weird.

Yeah, but she's really smart. We play games. Because, yeah.

Right. We played games, but it wasn't anything that involved, like, cardio.

Getting on the couch.

Yes.

Yes.

What's in your throat again? You fucking.

I don't know. It's been happening to me too. The Santa Ana wins.

Must be something.

Well, then what was it a couple of weeks ago?

The preparation of the Santa Ana wins. Her body knew it was coming.

But I will say your daughter is getting really, really smart. Too smart.

Okay, tell me why.

Football day, Sunday. I go, she goes, let's play tag. I say, I'm watching football. She goes, but all day yesterday you were watching football too.

Oh, college game day.

And then I had to teach her that in these next couple of months, there are four days that are dedicated to football. That's Monday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday.

How'd she feel about that?

She didn't like it.

Well, you've got to get used to it.

I know, and she knows how to wear you down. Yeah, but you know what?

Verbal waterboarder.

No, but I feel bad because she's so much.

I like her doing my makeup so she can do stuff like that.

Yeah, because we lay there and it feels good.

No, but that's what I told her. I was like, we can play board games. You can do arts and crafts. She took the game day box that the pizzas came in and was cutting and coloring and doing the whole bit. She did our makeup. I did her makeup. We did chocolate covered strawberries. That was so cute. I want her to do more of my makeup. It feels so good.

The Jeej and Ocean arguing, trying to get into the bowl of chocolate.

No, you would think that Lisa would be the adult in this situation, but she will get on to Ocean.

You need to share.

It's like, well, it's hers. Can she not have it?

Sharing is caring.

No, the two of you going at it over a sweet is craziness. Like you become stunted emotionally when you see a sweet in.

Front of you.

We had chocolate dipped potato chips, bananas, and strawberries.

Look at my mom's eyes light up.

And there's still more to be had.

I know.

I crushed it. I really did. I crushed the chocolate dipping yesterday.

The greatest.

Ooh, when I added like a little coffee creamer to the chocolate.

Oh, is that what you did?

Yeah, girl.

Ghirardelli melting chips with some coconut oil. Oh.

Oh, wow.

To make it like nice and smooth for the dipping.

Oh, yeah. Lisa, step your game up.

What? You just throw it?

I'm the eater.

Wait, hold on. You just throw the chips in?

Yeah.

Oh, no. Oh, no.

Do you put any little butter?

It doesn't say add stuff to it.

I chat GPT'd what's the best way to melt.

Melting butter or melting chocolate?

Melting chocolate.

Oh, so you don't have chat.

You should ask Google.

And you do have chat because I put it on your phone.

It doesn't have to be chat. Just ask one of the engines.

Okay.

All right.

Ask Siri.

We went to Schwartz and Jason's birthday.

So fun.

It was really well done.

I almost fell off the couch.

Oh, the ones that separate?

No, I just got up to say hello to somebody. And because there were so many people, I was half cheek on, half cheek off.

Oh, no.

And when I went back on, I was no cheek on. Yeah.

And I'm hoping it wasn't seen by a whole lot of people because it was very embarrassing.

I wore this like... Deep green.

You looked wonderful.

Thank you, T.

I did fall in love, though, that night.

Can I finish my story? No.

All right, you go first. Michelle. I know.

She hits right, doesn't she?

Michelle, Michelle. All right, now you can finish.

She goes, your brother is so cute. He makes me blush. He's so nice to me. And I was like, yeah, he told me he's in love with you, but not to tell you. Anyway, I'm telling you.

Well, thank you for that.

She is.

She's stunning. Yes. But you looked beautiful as well in your green dress.

Go on. So I had this green dress and it had like these flared sleeves and this like flared bottom with little rhinestones, right?

Yeah.

So pretty. And Tom Sandoval was there. And he's like, Lala, I got to say, I'm not like the biggest fan of what you wear when there's like a theme, but I got to say tonight, I love this look on you. I was like, oh, that's so nice. Is that an insult or is that?

No, it's an insult, but you won that night. So take it as with that, you know?

I was like, thank you.

His girlfriend finally met.

Who's? Tom. Tom Schwartz.

Did you say Sandoval?

Sandoval said that to me.

Yes.

Schwartz would never say that to me. Tom Sandoval. Do I get along with him? Yes.

I mean, I would.

Are we texting each other? No. Are we calling each other?

No.

Has he appeared before? At things that like I'm at.

Yes.

And I'm not unkind to him. You know, it's like just cordial. Very much so. It's like, hey, it's good to see you. How are you doing? He seemed like he was in a very good space, which is great.

I didn't talk to him. He didn't seem really like he seemed in good spirits. Like his chin was up.

He was smiling.

There were people who would come up to me and, you know, vent about him being there. And I just felt in that moment with the things that I have seen in the news, I'm like, can we just like focus on being here together, celebrating these two people, not thinking about who we're kicking out. It's Schwartz's friend. It's his birthday party. Like, let's just like, let it Let it be. We don't need to have this full.

Let bygones be bygones?

Let's not have a full conversation about how we wish security was here to kick people out. It's just so unnecessary.

Well, I feel like it's up to you to handle your emotions. And with him in the room, if you really despise him, just keep yourself separate. Why is he affecting you in the room, you know?

That's how I feel. Yeah, it was fine. I had a wonderful time celebrating two amazing men. Everyone looked amazing. The theme was awesome.

It was like.

Very chic and well done. There was caviar, which you know I love. A photo booth, which was fucking hysterical. You posted. The one of you and all the gays standing in a line like a prom photo.

No, I told.

Gazing into... It was so cute. You guys, I'm getting my hair done for the birthday party. And Ocean is learning how to spell in class right now. And she said she wants to make a book. And I was like... wonderful. She goes, can you write it down what I want to say? And then I'll just copy it. And I said, perfect.

What do you want to write? And she said, I'd like the book to start with the world is full of love. And then she also had me write LA, no, the universe is full of stars and the LA is full of kind-hearted people. This was all from her. All from her. I just sat there and wrote it down.

I think it's beautiful.

She's an angel.

Like, that was her own thought.

It is, but I want you guys, even myself, to take....

What a beautiful space you've created for her. That that's all she believes in.

That you've created that. No, that's what I'm saying.

Like even me, but like you have created such a safe place for your child.

Yeah. That it's all just full.

Of love, stars. It's rainbows and butterflies.

Yeah.

And you did that.

Thank you.

I'll get you. No, she, that child. Oh, just to the thought of her, I could just cry.

I know.

She's a star.

And even you loving on Sosa this morning.

I love that little child.

They're just magical. And it's like such a testament to the home that we've created for them.

And talk about Sosa and what she says to everyone. What does she say? I love you, Gigi.

I love you, Gigi. I love you, Titi. I love you, Mama. And then when she does something naughty and I go, don't do that. She goes, okay, mommy, I love you. I love you, mama. I'm like, I still love you.

When you scare her outside the door.

I love you, TT.

I love you.

I love you too, dude.

Just on me.

Darling.

It's adorable. Well, even Jenna, my friend and trainer has said like, I've not, is it normal for kids to like be so loving? Or is that because she's not really around kids other than mine. She's like, is that normal or is it like a space that you've created? And I'm like, honestly, I just remember growing up and like every time we would like leave a room and we lived together, it was always like, I love you.

Getting off the phone. I love you like 400 times over and over again. Repeater mode.

Beautiful.

I know. Michelle came over the other night and she was like, your house is so calm. Like, I can't believe you have two kids living in here. Because Isabella like runs her into the ground. She's got a lot of energy. She does. And Michelle's like, from the time I wake up at 630, she's got our whole day planned.

And there's not one ounce of rest.

Oh, no.

And they don't turn the TV on.

I know. Michelle's a badass mom. Yeah. For real. It was football Sunday. Okay. So obviously you know what my family was doing. But.

I didn't leave the house all day Sunday. None of us did.

So many tied games that went into overtime.

A lot of good football played.

Yeah.

Saturday and Sunday. Very, very good.

Very, very good.

Yes. But the Victoria's Secret fashion show happened. And I saw clips on Instagram. And Sally went. She looked fucking banging as usual.

Who?

Sally Carson from Southern Charm, who I do Sex Unlocked.

There we go. My sweet angel, Sally.

She went, Madison LaCroix went a lot of bad bitches. A lot of bad bitches last night, or on Sunday night. And I was actually shocked with how many celebrities that aren't known as models walked in the show. Like Kylie Jenner wore a $ 50 million bra.

Can you imagine how much it weighed?

Oh my God. And her body looks sick.

Yeah. Right. I was all about looking at all those photos.

Who wasn't? And people were commenting on how, how many of these women were like postpartum and in their forties. And what I love is someone who is getting older and, is I'm like, women really are not getting good. And when I say that, just like feeling themselves. And I feel like the J-Lo's of the world, Gwen Stefani, Beyonce.

Shakira, Shakira.

Shakira. Like they have kind of, and yes, you can argue, well, they have all the money in the world to have all of these treatments done. And yes, that is very true. However, they are, Are showing that just because you are entering an older stage of life, you don't have to give up.

No.

Right?

But even these housewives, Erika Jayne, are you joking?

You know what's so interesting?

Tell me.

Is back in the day, Golden Girls, those ladies, I think were in their 50s and 60s.

They look like they were 90 and 80.

Yeah, and look how it's changed.

The fuck? You're kidding.

No.

They were 50.

They were supposed to be in their 50s.

Even the old one with the curly hair?

No, I think she was supposed to be in her 70s.

I think she was in her 60s. What? No, she couldn't have been.

79.

Thank you.

80.

Thank you. That's close enough.

How old was B?

Anyway, I guess 55. What? I was like, I love these 75-year-old grandmas.

Yes.

Little did I know.

Wow.

I need to rewatch that with a whole new mindset.

I love the Golden Girls, by the way.

It makes more sense knowing that they're not 90. What?

55?

Yeah.

But I will say Betty White from 55 to 85 looked the same.

She did look the exact same.

I don't remember.

And remember Blanche was like the promiscuous one of the group.

Yeah, how old was Blanche?

53.

What? This is crazy.

Lisa, I'm never saying anything about you ever again. You look fucking tits over there.

Thank you.

You've always looked tits and you'll continue. That is insane to me.

Lisa.

How old was the What was her name? Bea? Bea Arthur. Bea Arthur.

Bea Arthur was 54.

And she looked grown.

No.

Oh, my God.

You guys, that is crazy to me.

So, yeah. See, Lisa?

Not even Lisa. All the other.

Oh, my hell. When did they die?

70?

I mean, I think... You guys, I think Erika Jayne is like 54. Isn't she? She's in her 50s. I know that.

Could you imagine the Golden Girls and then just... Putting Erika Jayne in the Golden Girls.

Yes, they should remake it. She's 55. Erika Jayne is 55.

So it gives you a whole new appreciation, right?

It does, and it just goes... Oh, my gosh. Thank God for Sam and Sperm. These women are out, like, having sex, dating, putting.

Wait, the Golden Girls?

The modern-day Golden Girl is clipping extensions in down to her ass, push-up bras, latex body suits. It's... Awesome to see.

Maybe I want to go back to the Golden Girl era.

Also, with all of the procedures that these women have access to, I will say grocery store brands, but also the Korean skincare is.

So good.

Well, it's working.

It's so good.

Time has shown that all of that is working.

Well, I don't think the Golden Girl's hairstyles helped at all.

You don't say.

I will also say that in Seinfeld, Elaine Bennis with her hairstyle sure didn't look 65 with that poof thing.

I mean, yes, it's aged, but.

But by the way, you even look at Friends and they were all supposed to be in their like early to mid 20s and they felt old. Like when you watch them, you're like, no, these people are like in their mid 30s pushing into like.

I still watch Friends thinking they're older than me.

Yeah, they seem older than us. Yeah.

All right. Everything's starting to get wild now.

Dylan Sprouse, his wife walked and he just looked so proud on the runway. He was like, because his wife just gave birth like six weeks ago.

And she was banging, right?

Yes.

And whatever the reason, here's the thing.

How old is she?

Mid-20s.

Barbara.

Holy shit.

Oh, okay.

She's my age.

And six weeks postpartum.

Oh my God. I think I was still in like diapers at six weeks.

Yeah, six weeks. I have a big meal and I'm not ready in six weeks.

I mean, you can't even start having sex at that time. How did she get in shape?

I have no clue.

You literally are not even supposed to do like... horrendous even.

Your saggy stomach you know what.

I mean the first kid is so different though the second is when the skin gets a little funky yeah like i feel most comfortable when i work out in a high-waisted.

Pant i love working out in sweats.

And thank you thank you mom you do and and i'm not complaining but i am saying that a second kid does make things but kylie jenner has got two kids she started in her 20s look at me trying to make myself.

Feel better You're trying to justify, justify, justify.

Yes, they all looked so good.

Everybody's body's different and it's going to bounce back the way it wants to. Yep.

I know, but I do love seeing women talk about how hot these women looked because their bounce backs are pretty fucking incredible. You know? And just to see them like all woman on the runway. Because there was a time where the Victoria's Secret fashion show was like filled with women who had never had children. They were super freaking young.

Tall.

And tall and legs to the sky. And like you would watch and I'm sure....

Like, I know I did.

I would watch and be like, how does someone look that perfect? Yeah.

You know?

Well, and I don't even think back in the day, and maybe I'm wrong, you had to be a certain height, a certain weight, a certain look, or you couldn't even walk it.

Yeah, you had to be like Victoria's Secret.

I remember back in the day, you had to be like over 5'11 or 5'10.

You had to, to be honest, you had to be flat as a board.

No ass, no tits, and holy shit. You had a thigh gap. Can I tell you who won the whole game for me, though, last night was Megan Thee Stallion.

Was she performing or just walking?

She walked in it.

Because Tate McRae, I don't know if she walked in it, but she walked and performed.

Like, she did a walk, but while performing.

I don't think she walked. Right. I think she did her walk, but it was part of her performance.

She had the whole stage to herself while she was walking and doing it.

So, I mean, to me, that's pretty much a walk.

Yeah, I know. And she crushed it, too. But Megan Thee Stallion. I mean, I find her to be stunning.

Even to walk alone. Think of walking that in front of everyone and the camera.

I just don't know where my invitation was with these legs I have.

I've been out there just fucking strutting on these motherfuckers.

I'm going stunting on these hoes.

I know.

Kaya Gerber posted yesterday about her brother who passed. And this is like the first time she said anything. And it's just a home video of like, she's dancing with him. It really is such a sweet video. And she said, I love you the bluest to the moon and back and back again forever.

Big brother.

Oh, I cannot imagine. Like if I lost you, I would be in, in bad fucking shape.

Yeah, no.

Like for the rest of my life.

I think that is ditto.

I cannot even imagine.

No, I couldn't either. Yeah, no.

I just feel so sad for that family. And I freaking hate drugs and alcohol, just putting it out there. I really don't like it.

I can't believe people kind of are still doing what they're doing with.

The fentanyl, you know?

Well, now there's a new drug that they just talked about the other day on the Today Show that's 10 times more deadly.

Oh.

Than fentanyl but it gets you higher and the tiniest little bit obviously can kill you and that's like a new thing that they're telling everyone to look out for and if you are doing a fentanyl test it doesn't detect this other drug i don't know why people are fucking with drugs anymore i.

Saw this and i want to bring it up for women who go out to bars and drink there's fingernail stickers I know it sounds crazy, but you put the sticker on your finger and it's like blue and say your drink is there.

You dip your finger in it.

And if the sticker changes a color, it means somebody has fucked with your drink.

Just a thought.

Cause you know, covering all those things, but they just came out with like these stickers.

Oh, I do love that. I'm glad that you're talking about that.

Yeah. Like when cops are testing it, it turns a certain color yeah it'll give you like the list of what things are so like just to keep yourself safe and i think there's no such.

Thing as too much safety even me going out and ordering a diet coke or a sparkling water like it doesn't even matter if you're drinking alcohol or not like that's actually a great thing.

It's just anything but i saw one of my friends repost it and i thought wow this is an amazing idea.

Yeah no you're absolutely right i'm glad you mentioned that so it's out there Denise Richards vows to never marry again after Charlie Sheen and Aaron. She said, I'm 0 for 2. I mean, because I think she has to pay him alimony, doesn't she?

Oh, she does. I think she does.

She doesn't have to get married again. She can still be, you know, a lifelong relationship.

Right. But I talk about this all the time with my girlfriends.

Let's see.

Does.

Denise Richards have to pay Aaron Pfeiffer's child or no, not child support.

Alimony. Yeah.

Alimony question mark.

Yes.

Denise Richards has, has been ordered by a judge to pay temporary spousal support.

That is ridiculous.

Can I tell you, this is. Does she have a job? Does she have a job? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think, I think she works pretty consistently and, And she's made so much money. Like, I don't know exactly what she does.

But I don't think she took a lot from Charlie.

No, I think she just wanted out.

Well, I don't think Charlie had a lot at the end. Did he?

No, he spent a lot of money. I watched that documentary on him. So spousal support, she must pay him $ 5, 000 per month. And it is temporary money. The judge explicitly broke this sum down to cover $ 2, 000 for Pfeiffer's rent, $ 1, 000 for his car, and $ 1, 000 for food, and $ 1, 000 for miscellaneous expenses. Then for her legal fees, in addition to the monthly alimony, she was ordered to cover $ 30, 000 of his expenses, $ 25, 000 for his attorney's fees, and $ 5, 000 for a forensic accountant. And you know what? This is why I say, just don't get married.

But isn't there common law in marriage? In California.

Nope, doesn't exist.

Oh, well, that's good.

You can just Goldie Hawn this shit until the wheels fall off.

Speaking of, she was on the red carpet the other day. Yeah. Looked darling with her Kurt Russell.

She's one of my most favorite actresses on the planet.

And they both look like they just filmed Overboard.

Like, I feel like they haven't changed.

They're so cute.

They're just, like, so in love and cute. I think they met on that movie.

They did.

And I think she's five years older than he is.

Oh, you better get it, Goldie.

She's like Cougar.

Now that's the kind of Goldie girl I'm looking for.

Yeah.

She, like, waking up every morning and choosing each other. Because I think a lot of times people stay together because they don't want the headache of the paperwork.

Yep.

Where, like, if you could just come up with an agreement where you're like, we're life partners. Yeah. But if things go south one day, you don't need to worry about losing anything. We don't have to divide assets. You can just up and go. And I'll be sad, but it's all good.

No, they're darling. And they had a baby together. Yeah.

What's his name?

I don't know his name.

I wanted it to be something crazy.

No, it's not crazy.

And don't they live in Colorado? I don't know that. I think they do.

They moved out of L.A.? Yeah.

Yeah.

And then Kate Hudson is another one of my most favorite actresses.

Me and you both. I love her rom-coms.

She is so cute.

She's darling.

Ugh.

And the son, they have, what's his name?

Oliver.

He's cute, too.

Just a cute family. What was he? He was in a sitcom. Rules of Engagement.

What is that?

Don't you remember we used to watch Rules of Engagement with Dad?

If I were to see it, I'd know it.

Yeah, don't you remember?

I know exactly what you're talking about.

Yeah, Dad, we would always watch that. We loved a good sitcom at my house. Didn't we?

That's all we loved. Yeah. Situation comedies.

It's so cute.

I'm like... That and Law & Order.

I don't love Law & Order.

I know you don't.

Unpopular opinion.

I love Law & Order. I have zero interest.

And it's been on the air 35 years.

Yeah, I know. Olivia can now retire.

Why would you want to, though? Remember that time where she was, like, filming a scene?

No, we're saying in the show.

The show.

Oh, she could retire.

If she was an actual detective, they'd actually be pushing her out the door going, you put in enough time, sweetheart.

We need young guns in here.

She plays her role so well.

She does.

Acting? Yeah, very good at it. So good.

No, Easton, like a couple years ago, she was filming a scene at a park in New York and there was a little kid who was lost and thought she was actually a police officer and went up to her to help him find his parent or whatever and she stopped the scene to help him find who he was looking for.

You know what? Costume deserves a raise. Looking like a cop?

Hey, speaking of costumes, you went out and got a costume for Halloween.

Oh, don't remind me that it's Halloween.

I hate Halloween. Yeah, you know what?

Actually, Sandoval was on to something when he said he doesn't dig me in a theme because I'm awful at it. There was a... I wouldn't say that was a themed night.

It wasn't.

And I told him that. I'm like, it's because this is not a theme. I'm wearing a normal dress. And now you're insulting me and telling me it's a costume. Like, what is this? I was going to do an updo, but I thought I might look like an ice skater. So I did super long extensions. I think the whole look was beautiful. Wait, what's your costume, brudda?

I have two parties.

Oh!

Big ballin', baby! Witches and warlocks. So I got like a, just a warlock, like throw, whatever. Okay. Do something with it. And then because.

It's a cloak.

It's a cloak.

Oh.

With a hood.

Yeah.

And then I was like, I'm gonna repurpose this and then I just got like a scary mask and gloves and gloves so I'm just like it's a white mask with like It's a very scary lady.

It's almost like she's a nun.

Oh.

A scary nun.

A dead nun.

And I loved.

Sosa looking at you.

Oh, did you put it on this morning?

Well, I just like put it on just to like see the outfit and Sosa was eating.

And I'd look at her and she'd go, I love you, Titi. I love you, Titi.

And then she'd say, Titi.

Titi. Titi.

And then I'd take the mask off and she'd smile and go, Titi.

And then I'd put it back on and she'd go. I love you, TT.

Do you remember when dad would wear that old person mask?

The old man mask? Yeah, no, scarring. He came out of his closet in that thing. And I was like, huh?

He loved to dress up. He loved costumes.

No, dad was. I hated it.

I remember going to the Sunloft's house and he showed up in a.

In a house.

In a house and he healed.

I'm like. Yeah, it was his costume for that.

No, that was just.

And we went to Park City.

Well, don't you remember he always told me he wanted to be in the arts, but his mom wouldn't let him be in the play because boys in plays were gay?

Yeah.

Oh, my dad was gay.

No, he wasn't. He liked the arts and never, grandma wouldn't let him be in the play.

And can I be honest? I think dad.

She thought I was a lesbian based on being in plays.

No, she said to me, we were at dinner one night and she said, do you want her to be a lesbian?

No. As I left was my giant boyfriend who we were sexually active.

You're a lesbian. I don't care.

Oh, for her, that would have been the end of the world.

Gosh.

It's like you. I just remember like you going, you'd get ready, things like that. And then we'd go.

And then all of our cousins, the women even, were like in, I don't know, like lesbian shorts and like a t-shirt. I was like, and you're worrying about my dressed up woman sister, but not these guys cookie eating.

I think you're off to something real wrong, Grandma.

But by the way, like, who cares?

Who cares?

I'm just irritated.

Back to the point, I think if Dad would have been in the arts, he would have been so successful.

He would have.

He crushed. It's sad. He would have been a comedian. He would have been a lot of things. Then he got stifled.

He did get stifled.

Yeah, definitely.

In a lot of different areas, too. I can't think about it too much, or I will go insane on the whole family.

No, I know, because he deserved a different life.

He did.

Yeah, and he wanted it, and he was shunned because of it.

Yeah, he was.

All right, I'm going to Utah.

A lot of threatening on this podcast.

There.

There is something sweet about Halloween now that I have kids, obviously. Sosa is going to be la vaca lola, obviously. I got her a cow costume because she's obsessed. I've told you guys, it's my favorite thing. When I put her in the crib, she has two cows that she's obsessed with. One has tan spots. The other has black. They both have to be with her in her crib. And she holds them like this and goes.

And if they're not in her crib, she stands and goes, La vaca Lola, mama.

La vaca Lola.

Over and over and over again. And we have to go around the house and find them. And we have to try to find them. So I got her a cow costume, but I want to put like a name tag on her that says, hi, my name is Lola. So that people know that she's La vaca Lola. And then Ocean wants to be these like new, it's a ladybug and cat noir. She wants me to be cat noir, which is like the boy thing.

Which is totally fine.

I can like get a, he's in like full latex. I'm like that I can fuck with.

Yeah. She has had her Halloween costume on every day.

I won't let her put the wig on yet. It's like a purple wig.

I know she saw it. She goes, Oh, there's the wig.

Yeah. I'm keeping it safe because I had to buy two Wednesday costumes because she messed up the wig.

Yeah.

Yeah.

She's super excited.

That's what she's being for that party. You're talking about. I got like a slutty witch costume. Cause why the hell not? You know, If the Victoria's Secret models can do it, so can I.

That's right.

In my mind.

I walked in the show last night in my mind. As I laid watching Sunday Night Football, I was like, mentally I'm on the run. I can't believe I just walked. I'm exhausted.

Where are my cheese and crackers?

I did go ham on cheese and crackers last night.

Yeah, I couldn't sleep.

Because of Game of Thrones?

Yes, Game of Thrones.

I don't know if you knew this. Ocean put her gloves on.

Yeah.

And she was cutting with her little child safe scissors.

Yeah.

She cut a hole in her glove.

Like a big hole?

Those don't seem very child safety if they're just cutting through gloves.

Wait, what do you mean? Like her finger could go through it? Yeah. That is so annoying.

But that's your daughter.

I don't think I can get a new one in time.

You don't need one.

It's fine?

It's fine.

So she's just going to have one rogue finger hanging out of it?

She can scroll her phone.

No, she can pull it back in.

Oh my gosh. That's exactly why I told her I didn't want her to try it on before Halloween.

She puts it on every day though.

Her finger is going to be like a little pig in a blanket.

I love it.

It's time for Bravo.

Bravo.

Fucking Bravo. Real Housewives of New York newbie Daisy doesn't want her friend slash client Martha Stewart to join the cast. She's the one that does her makeup.

How do you feel about that? Why doesn't she want her joining the cast? Because she's Martha Stewart.

I just think when people find their thing, people get very territorial over their spot on reality television.

But it's her first season.

I know. And she's finally found her thing. So she's probably taking ownership over it. And I noticed this with so, I shouldn't say so many. I've only done Vanderpump in the Valley. But there are times where new people come on and you should see how everyone gets very like, And it's like, guys, we just want to make a good show. So if we need a new cast member, we should welcome them.

Well, does Martha want to be on the show?

Martha May, who do you get? Has the best light. Well, not this year. I'm going to beat that perfect little prissy Martha.

Or whatever she says. Hi.

I know every word. I know every word, the whole movie. And Ocean asks me to do it, and she just sits there. Keep going.

And you can.

And I say, give me my stage. No, she's just here. And Martha, are you joking? You really think Martha Stewart's like itching to be a Real Housewives?

I don't think so.

Of New York cast member?

Like what time does she have?

Not at all.

She's too busy taking hot selfies on her free time.

Exactly. And GLP-1 commercials.

She's crushing it.

Cookbooks.

I mean, come on.

Getting high with Snoop Dogg.

Come on.

Come on now come on now I don't need it although I would love to see her because she was so entertaining it was wild to see Martha Stewart someone who's so fucking famous go on reality TV and so like effortlessly be herself I know right I mean I know she's been doing it a long time but sometimes it doesn't translate like even people who are in the public eye you throw a camera in front of them and go okay live your life it's kind of like No, people have, I will.

Say, a lot of people have given the Kardashians a lot of praise.

You can't do it. They do what they do very well.

Of course. Do you know how hard it is to have a successful reality TV show that your life has to be interesting enough for people to watch? There's no script. We're not pulling things out of thin air.

To do it twice. From E- Give it a break. Now we're on Hulu. Still going eight seasons.

Still going eight seasons. It's crazy. They should be. And it is draining. Yeah.

I don't enjoy the show that much, but good for them.

The Kardashians? Yeah. I haven't really, I haven't watched a full season ever.

Me and mom tried.

Yeah, we tried.

By the way, though, I know this has nothing to do with Bravo, but you're like on your... You are officially a huge fan of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

Yes, but last night I was watching and I kind of fast forwarded through a couple of things because it wasn't interesting to me.

Lindsay Hubbard is dating Below Deck star Joe Bradley. I'm shooketh to my core about this. I did not see this coming. I didn't see her with a Bravo Leopardy.

I don't even know who that is.

I don't either.

By the way, though, people love Below Deck. I'll show you a picture.

What's his name? I do know Below Deck.

Joe Bradley?

I just don't know Lindsay Hubbard.

You don't know Lindsay Hubs? Yes, you do.

She's on Summer House, right?

Yes.

I know Lindsay. Not personally.

Lindsay Hubbard, you 100% know who she is.

Lindsay Hubbard. She's blonde, had a baby.

Guys, I know Lindsay Hubbard.

Yes, she's like so fabulous and amazing. You don't know the guy she's dating. Joe Bradley, I recognize his face. And I think you guys would too.

Let me see.

Oh, yeah.

I do. Good for them.

What is his age? Age.

Age is just a number.

Wow, 10-year age gap. I love this for her.

Is she older? Shh.

Yeah, she's 40, he's 30, and he does Below Deck Mediterranean. Oh, and he's on Southern Hospitality. That's where I know him from. Is Southern Hospitality?

I think i know from below deck because i don't watch the other one i don't.

Watch i don't watch southern hospitality either but i on their little whatever it's called i've heard it's very good though all right well she it gives early can we talk about rules vibes By the way, I'm so happy that you're bringing this up because it's not in my notes.

Go. Bronwyn paid her man.

Yeah, on this season.

On this season.

The model, the young one.

The model $ 15, 000 to film with her for one of the scenes.

All right.

And for that, I want to make one point.

Make the point because we're on the same page.

OK, so this man is a very good looking man, a working man, a model. What if he had a job that was paying him fifteen thousand? It wasn't huge, but like a modeling job.

For fifteen K.

Bronwyn was like, well, what if I just pay you and you can come with me and we'll film together and that will be your payment for just like filming.

If I'm the guy, I would probably go. I'll go with you for the 15. I get it.

Not only have fun, I get to make money and spend time with you. So I don't think it's Bronwyn going, I have to pay this man to come and do this. I think he's just a working man and I have to pay him for his time.

He probably had other things.

So I am with you because it comes out... This has been something that has come out a lot in different cities of Housewives where it's like so-and-so paid this person. Let me put it this way. I know what I make to film... The Valley, and I know what I made to film Vanderpump Rules. When you have someone in your life and you're like, hey, they would like to capture us, you know, do a scene, would you come on and do this? It is, number one, very intimidating to put your life out there. They're not getting paid, which you feel badly about. They're taking time out of their day to do it. Like, I think all of those things kind of get dismissed because it's like, oh, it's not real. You paid them. And it's like, it

is real. But guess what? This person doesn't want to be on fucking camera. They're a huge part of my life. They don't want to be doing this.

Well, they want to make a paycheck.

And also, like, it's me being kind. I know what I'm making. The least I can do is throw him $ 15, 000.

Especially when he's missing out on money that he could be making.

Right.

Like, you're asking me to fly into Salt Lake City to film with you. I don't live there. And you're asking me to put my life, my intimate business with you out there?

Yeah.

Yeah, I would say I'm going to sweeten the deal for you by paying you. For me, it has nothing to do with anything else other than I know I'm asking you to do a lot. Let me compensate you.

So he can pay his bills.

Maybe pay his rent.

That's how I looked at it. I didn't think like, oh, she had to pay. And I think people are attacking it from that angle. Like, oh, she has to pay people to go. It's like, no, people have real lives. And even when I was in Utah. And also, not everyone wants to be on camera.

No.

But remember, I was in Utah and I'd be like, I'm going to miss two days of work. And you guys would go, I'll just pay you for those two days. And I'd go, perfect. Then we're great.

Busy on work.

Things like that.

Also, not everyone wants to be on camera. No.

No.

Some people are like, no, I don't want to be filmed.

I'm over here. It's fun.

Yes.

I mean, I don't dislike it. It's fun, but I will say there.

Are people— Imagine going on, though, and filming something, like, with a girl.

Other people?

Yes.

No, it's easy and doable because— That you're intimate with and you have a relationship with.

Oh, I would do it.

Back to that. Yeah, and they want to capture the awkward moments. Is he going to, like, do something that makes— feel like he's not that into her. Those are the moments that you're hoping for, right? Just as a viewer, you don't want to see two people having normal conversations and.

Being in love.

No.

Boring.

Boring. We want to see her invest in him not so much or the other way around.

You know?

Where's the car crash?

Did you guys see her in the tub? She's in the tub. Taylor Frankie Paul is in the tub with another guy.

I don't know if this is mormon the secret lives or if this is the bachelor that never got released but she's in the they're in the tub together and she goes to drink water out of the faucet and the guy's face is like oh no and it went viral because of that reason and i got disgusted from her because.

Of that oh i used to drink when i was a little kid yeah a.

Little kid yeah not with two three kids you didn't turn out of the faucet Yeah, so like probably, and I'm sorry, I don't take cold baths, so she's drinking hot water.

No, you turn on cold.

She did not. It's on film.

Maybe they edited out her. It's AI, AI, AI.

The guy's face is priceless. That's great.

I love it.

That's what we're hoping for with Bronwyn and her guy. the ink face yeah that's what we're.

All no we're not hoping just as viewers like we watch for the dramatic moments i'm also not hoping for bronwyn that the guy is not into her no i hope that.

In my little bravo they live happily.

Ever after with all of these people who are in the little bravo universe i want them happy as a viewer you're like i want the crazy like who's gonna mess up yeah you know Andy Cohen swears he doesn't have favorites in the Housewives universe, but admits he has a soft spot for two. I will say New York and Atlanta have always been kind of close to my heart.

That's really cute. You can tell with New York because that's like his mothership, right? And then Atlanta, how do you not? Those women just crush it.

They do.

They're so fun. The shit that comes out of their mouths is wild.

It feels like he's not going to work with those girls.

Yeah, because they make it so fun.

Pure entertainment for him.

Yes.

Yeah.

Well, Portia.

Portia's so stunning and so hysterical when she talks.

Totally.

And her facial expressions. She's so cute and bubbly.

I know. I like her a lot. I like her a lot, too.

She would be a good time.

Yeah, for sure.

You know, Brittany kind of reminds me of that.

Brittany, she's another.

Angel. I love her. And she looks so good.

Good God. I saw her. I won't lie at the party. I saw her from the back and I didn't know.

And I was like, who's this fine fucking thing. And then she turned around and I was like, Oh my God, it's kind of my sister.

She, she did say, she was like, I'm getting like a lot of nice comments in the comment section. And she goes, although it does feel nice, it makes me sad that depending on my weight and appearance, That's how people choose to be kind to me or not. And I'm like, it is really fucked up.

It is.

But also like, I feel like because she wanted to do this, like.

People are praising her. That's a good, that's a good way.

To look at it. I put myself out here for this.

So I'm going, you know, I am going to give you praise because you're being so open and vulnerable.

So I'm going to praise you. So it is like, you know, I.

Feel like you kind of ask for what you do, but I rather have what she's getting than the opposite.

Well, I think she agrees. I just think it opens your eyes to like how crazy this world is that like you see someone who looks a certain way and like.

Past judgment.

Right.

Where like her personality is the exact same. She's still kind and sweet. A great mom. Like none of that changed. Just her appearance changed. And now she's getting an overwhelming amount of love, which I think the people that are giving her all of the love, like they're not the psychopaths that are commenting horrendous things.

No.

Right?

No.

They're probably the same people that kind of are in her boat.

And can relate with her.

There you go.

Yeah. And like you said, it takes like... 12 nice comments to outweigh one bad comment.

No, it takes 12,000 nice comments to outweigh the one bad.

Oh, that explains everything.

That's not it for me. 12,000. That was a cute episode.

I love you guys. Thank you for listening to another episode of Untraditionally Lala. We will catch you guys next week. Bye. Bye.

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