Green Train – Kunst und Nachhaltigkeit auf leisen Wegen

0:07 Hello everyone and welcome to my Podcast die Leichtigkeit der Kunst, my name ist Claudia Linzel. Special Journey Aber the Green train, a night train for of chesters. Crerated by Finish Artist Nina Backmann. Episode with Nina Silence was, Today Reshift into movement. From Berlin to Amsterdam to Landgood Wellner.

0:43 Und. The Greentrain Connects Art Climate and Community. Not in a theory but in practice. Trees Apping planted Voices Gazard Connections formed, I had die opportunity to travel with a train to listen and document moments. Mariella Salerno from European Sleaper Award with Sound by Strom Media Matic in Amsterdam, World Sepplings virhanded out and at the well no Estate Plante Trease and Spoke Director and Artist Gerbrand-Burger. Manykilometers, many perspectives.

1:25 And now, Nina Backmann Geizers ID and Realisation of this Unique Project. So let's sport, listen and reflect together. Wir. This journey beginn for you. I just wannay had a nite your and ähm we were already than platin trease together with Museums and äh as a Artistic practice and then I so to touch you connect feel of the city that we were a during a project and salt like, a natural way of of doing that and I also holdy would great consesual frame for the project two.

2:05 Q-Connect places like that. And sind Sie das sustaining away of travelling and specially in Euro by think trend lines are growing and people are toing that more rijus had the side and us felt so simple and so perfect as why has it noted been down before? Can you remember the moment and this idea became a project Ja.

2:40 Many People also told me that it's to complicated. That you can't springes to train their health and safety issues excetter and ähm I so I got a little bit obsessed the fard deside year then and eh will definitely do it. Challenge surprised your most Auf Kurse firsting then what happenes we had to find a try Company and we found a European Sleeper who absolutely loved love the Ideas and decided to do pilot together with them challenging things of course has been just to.

3:15 Well it's always the Fundracing I'm minute really is just with with new project to try to convience People that this is a very good. Idea and it's do able and that people would be up for something like this. And that it would also work What has you surprised? Well I think I was surprised how happy make People Like how we how People was so open for that because I felt like we were like spreading seat around.

3:43 And äh first something positive and good. In in der literal sense but also you know the ways with changing ideas and greetivity and and connection and, It was just so over welmently positive. Yeah in the restorant before that you yeah exactly member that this well. Aber so surprising and they were from Korea Mhm.

4:13 And äh he's favourite place for Finnland and so he was very happy to you have a finisry, because, also yes so all these funny connections happend. Ja, if you could freeze what moment of this journey mit when with be? I think I would freeze the night time conversations Oh yes me too I think that's something that I would really. I felt like was very special. Mhm. Ja. Completely out of something about the night trains also It's some how very intermate and is ähm here in this little, Kosmas. Mhm.

5:03 That I would freeze our conversation in the night time. Yeah, everything is possible. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah I remember betters we're very, very deeping my hold. Yeah what does they Metapher of the Green train mean to You. Sobasically it's a moving place for for ideas for connections and also forint echological.

5:24 Action, Anders vorderes. Where you're seeper was a night train, but it was the tray company that wanted to work with us, so I'm mean eat good happy also day train. I do feel that ähm they something special about to night train, because it some how very intermed. Yeah, is a special way to travel in the nite time. Mhm. I think. Yeah intern.

5:48 Chains in Perception, wenn wir Travelwild the World Outside Sleeps a secret question I just feel like, you get this feeling that. Thinks apossible. Yeah and you think in this special silence of the night of this People. Energie I really literally fell like wevere spretting good seats around. And ähm I think äh.

6:19 Suche train and to troveling in the night time with the bunch of stranges is a very filtal ground for new kind of Ideas and we will planting something good for the inviroment and I hope that this created to kind of spok of Inspiration and a new saur so nite a scent connections and that's my imager that.

6:43 Nice mit they are so many project, doing very similar kind of work. And I think that is a very important that we connect, over hob switch are happening around and try to string film the green network with in Europe interesting cause what rule does europlay in your thinking as a place as a project assa responsibility. Europe for me is is both canvas and network and it's a place for such a rich history is cultures and Share Challenges. But also kind of living lotory for. Ideas about a cology silence and community and I felt like my work response do it's lands Games Cities and soul strukt Wir also.

7:36 Responsibility to ingage to connect and to control to collective reflection and to stainable action a cross borders. Them. Hoe Projectis overlined where green train, and I have a luck toos big to Maella Saler Noise well, no the found with change a bit recorded in the train in the night, and I would love to present you and our audience, herwhats about the green tray. Dir Mariella, before we talk about sustainability art and mobility, also exciteding to be part a this project, I think to me troveling by trainer it's a with slowing the world down. In a way to more of over human rytherm.

8:36 May is diacho idea. Travelling, by trains and must basificly by night trains. It's a noportunity to travel Trudel Landscape, so rather than over dammer. And so konnover having to graphical bordes fade away they almost time exist that's what excite may about traine trouble. How das Travelling by Train, change you view of places people and connections. It cheats your properspective in aware, sei es i menschen before a but this feel softer cutures more more connected.

9:18 AU beginnt twinterstand European not has a collection of sire spaces and points abbat Brothermoors a living network of people and places that quiet sister and I're volving together what to you is the parallel between a ray ray root? Internatistik Gestia? I think in a why boys a rayware and a piece Award ähm on Expression award are ultimativ of Connection, Der Beginn wurde intention but their true meaning and forse in experiences, the experience of traveling by Nighttrainer sharing your sleeping bad with somebody also stranger my, and up become a friend at the underview journey. In the spaces between the partr on arrival many things happen and it this a lot of human connection than happensturing those Moments. So booth build bridges physical

10:13 and a cross reverse and symbolic one speed twenty People. Lang scapes in the different why, I think he can find beauty and meaning in Monscheln. Oh wundervoll. Why would a rail way company support and art project like the Green train. Each shows in Mallorca on the travelcamp be more the orgistics. It can be culture inmotion, Und.

10:52 I think with the fining the purpose of interstructure from something the simply functions to something that inspired. Supportin the Green train is a Statement the Night Train camp be Wirkung not only for People befor Ideas. Y ist the Night Train in Partikular au Format that can do more than simply connect. I think the night training white reflection.

11:15 Outside slows into smore silence passengers move poth physically and montly between cities, Brossow, between States of being. Relevant by Night. Wir, Over foodprint a vivor Surroundings, and automatly over short responsibility, can as nitrain be a space of inspiration absolutely asleping cars of rare social space.

11:54 Ich, we though words. That procite squired trust, Die. Und mut to respect on a shirt journey for the night. What was you first reaction when the Idea of the green train and art project on tracks. Was broad to you, oh this project dispotically close to me, it felt in mediately right. Die Idea Brow together revery thing the we care about connection sustainability, in die Marginition, geschult that the rail where in can be both a back of Europes Green Mobility Borussia Canvas for great Dialog. Please discrive the green train from your perspective. I think the green train is on invitation to travel differently.

12:50 To see differently. It's a moving acibition a conversation between art and intersfacture, ihr Brings Creativity on to the Trucks. Reminding us that every journey can Carry meaning beyond Transport, be can Carrie awareness, emotion and the vision what roll does the european context playing this project? Oh europok was build home the actually they are of connection. Cultural social and enconomic.

13:19 Ralways are the physical expression of that idea. We think context the green train becomes a culture bridge a cross borders. A reminder of shored responsibility war continents. Sister undable future in many ways europsidentity travols by ray, why is it important for companies like European sleep to support suchmans? Because we see travellus a culture act, zu Putin projects legt the green trainer reflector believe, das ist Stanabilities not only technical. It's emotional, äh social ancreative, bei Supporting Art and the Silent-Project importicular, we hope shape provision of travel, that's small consu smore connected and human.

14:03 Wir hope the Green Shain leave the sense of possibility. That real can move pose People and ideas. For passengers pubser are new to awareness, oh wow. How we travel? For companies and understanding that infrastructur has cultural wait and for Europe a modo, of how connection can be both ecological and emotional, what parallels to you see between art and mobility with artem mobility question prospective?

14:40 The makers looking a tals a rundings are place and now purpose. Boes a from is of Storytelling one three magel or sound the other three movement one to meet they reminders the progressant only about speed, but also about meaning. If the green train. Winner just the root but the ford. What as hoad with you like to pur on track across Europe. That's sustainabul travel can be more than responsible. Y can be inspiring.

15:12 Die Idea the slowing down is not a los, but again operspective connection aterstanding. If the Green trains sats anything emotion, little be a europe real. Nina Back to you. Planet in a country that is not your own and what happen siners? Ähm well, Ich also had äh local treas and triese, stoned really like to travel.

15:44 So they prefer to stay near their on in Asid Artistic Work I pro this gift serious, which is gifting, tries to people and ähm it's an old finish tradition and you can find it also in other countries, but, ist es seit ihr that when you plan to tree This is something for protection and for your will being and this is for reancens watch we also dit in anderthalb in will no is day that we willing lind intries.

16:14 And they will stay there and a good place and will be a kind of memory of of the trip. How do you see the act of planting at three is an artistic just you. For me planting a try and making and artissic mark. There both act of creation and offering. And have connections and creative kind of quite transformation. So for meats a very natural connection there. Mhm.

16:51 Ähm that I think that for me silence always been the first language of the Pumas. Mhm. Because I think that insilence. We come to understand ourself and this is the way how we Fine our connection to there invigment to to the world arounders to nature but also to others. IFC nit many times with the pince me to where people, very fluedly Communicates really out the without exchanging any words.

17:36 And I feel this is it's almost the kind of root network. Like for me, Ivy silence as simulat to the treats network. In the way, this is the language of really pure, Hureman. Not always, but I have hat, oft in Situation wird es signals meal a fee times. Where you have people that would normally not see that the same taple. Maybe completel fin, you know political views or otschis really to far different in Ideas and I've seen People Connections. What all this other stuff is kind of taking away and I so I what I hope that my project?

18:26 Ist das Human Connection. And I think silence dost that. But I also seen that in a very practical sense with eh when you plant together with people. L and you have the same mischen to Plan to three and this something very powerful and beautiful about that. Of that is a very simple act. Das Atrecomer Work of Art for you. I think it's the whole process. I think the practice aself is the out for me.

18:54 Orchangles Cineplace Manageries planted Darios a piece of Art. Everything. Everything changes. Hm? Everything treatly. I mean in the literal sense I mean of course it's the is a sold. I think first award this how and the idea and ähm Active Duing something like that together and then they are practica. I mean that is the solid change yous of course it. I just many benefits. How do sound sculture and nature come together in you work?

19:25 I think the treas probably that best äh piece of Art äh for that. Yeah so I think this comes best together with the mini forest really. Because this is about creating places for silence and well be. And this has a literally also ähm. Äh piece of Art, which is representing the signing space. So I mean this is what I hope to great.

19:52 With these project. Like pilence, places for for well being and art and reflection then. And Connections. Maybe this is the nice moment, that we look concretely at place, very plant at trease, Mediamatic in Amsterdam. Ja, me be you cat chotly discrive what mediamatic is and why mediamatic with the right please.

20:14 For you to start this project it's says big as is from alora suns. Rosal the a programm Manager and G because we collected calls before hand to see why eachparty wanted to collabreat, we does and what was the connection to the creen train and this is how Lora entset for you sins, so she is had, Admediamatic will consultly exploring how art, Design and science can work together to great a more eco centric future The Green train initiative as a perfect opportunity for as to translate this desire into action moving beyond our community to inspire a later audience. I think that's a very we will sad.

20:58 Ant, Julie, what we were also doing. Ja, why was mediamatic the right place to start this project? What I me for starters they are very near the station. Mhm. And they have very interesting in vibe on project themselve. And the seven. Well no place in Amsterdam and äh they do you a lot of experiment a things with they got in I me you so it ähm yourself, very open for this collaboration and so very community friendly place and they also places, very good leave äh some treas and plant around mediamatic and so that's why it was organice together.

21:36 Äh with them and nice. I shot it was really montiful event. There was kinderful Workshop Ja there was äh feeling Workshop and this is what I have to so to talk about the seedlings we have and why we have this kind of äh see links and how to pround them and and just meet People and I should also much and the life therapy außer Operate Und also in they provide us this map and a guar cold, so if you wanted to you good at your?

22:08 Sealing in that and then we are the Digital mat then also SE how and where the street up going. And. So Patissiens. I know your dead. Yeah. Oh, but we have to also Menschen your lovely and, Oh yes! Mhm. Ja. I don't have a some but ja but, from to them, what basic? Yeah, now, very happy to have you here with you, you like to enty use your by yourself? Yes, my names äh Viola caston, I work for the Goethe Institute as a culture programm maker here in, Amsterdam. Ja ähm Dorothea Reitenbach, I'm the internationale Weekend the Goethe Institute ähm happy to be her, Matthäus and I'm here with my mother and, Ich.

23:21 Das Greentrain for you. I understand a green train is a naction to connect difference series ähm in Europe and maybe across a globe where we can connect treas as in the maginary or actually a weal to for climaction and, Willy so, but in this planet very know I'm gething just ähm world connected of possibilities any nations around the world ähm, Mom streaming to reality maybe? No borders no botters. I don't thing the days and you boarders except the wanster. Human, Human Beings acreating. Mhm. This we all breat the same real.

24:16 Ja basically happy the same Planet. We are here at Media Maticy Explain media Medic anywurds? Ja, mediaMatic is a very progressive Art where different eh, Art Initiatives, Connecting Art to Nature and to Wir. Ähm ja it's a very important äh Institution that ähm Highlights the need for nature and connect, Country. Have you know this place before. Äh yes I very a sevens also.

25:08 Very visible and I've be new to some into disziplinary are distinners of bent to a, Where you were the audience of the theater play was not made for you, but for the Chickens, it's very introdestifinaries we playful does love differentings. I love the Workshops that they do it's very multicentury. Yeah, frommes to first time, Ende Mediamatic the day and I am very inspired what a beautiful building model great bunch of people that gotter here and, Inspiring Projects that are ticking place, inside and outside and the plans and the things it our happening here for sure I will come back and what board you here today? Yeah we follow the invitation of For äh Greentrain Projekt and also have been working on accology and art for wild in my profession and forces we had

25:59 Artistic Residence, but also like the idea of I connecting train between. Berlin and Amsterdam and I just but also the ID of calotical Artwoo the Netherance. Have for me this morning, I came to the office. That just sawn email. Train, Berlin Amsterdam Equology, trease and I was like this is for me, I need to go and nice cycle here we fast and from Berlin so it fuck super ready and time taking this train I know the European deeper and.

26:35 It's amazing and never hurd anything like this. So super read of in the interesting. Äh For free äh Climate Reality Project we are so have help the cross äh europe and which we are any to increase awareness and climaction I cross äh europe and the glob, there over ten hubs a cross europe in which with do low cowactiversummen connect.

27:11 Communitys and People to clam action and also. We charts to corporates that are automatly responsible for the crime at classes that applitis is living is is going frow and that are, veryportant that we which out for those corporates to change äh to change directions and the practices and, many of than I're very intrusted in changing their the practices and a culture tworts äh more positive äh native positive Behavior.

27:47 Ähm, mein Name ist Indien is really a person one stay, Bild the Family and Plane and Mom heißt on the first to but medit and have the operative deplante three, so I, I will here today because we are trying to green create about mother dotter. Und. Hallo. Also, Ja, you and vision the idea of how the brook three minight look in your guardn, on your back any and now with you ID and mind that it camp in Finnland, it crame, Berlin so how connect this country with he chatter.

29:07 Travel what and really nates of plants anywhere mean sets have always travel the whole world and, Thing jetzt auch so ein interesting that that did connect is doesn't really no boarders as well. And we ight even planted or than take it, Somewhere else again I think I'm my now gonna end up on my balcony. But so now are live in Rotted amother hm I like move to defencities and I will take the clans and bring them some wealth again. Hm. He's a philosophical question. I bet? Yeah.

29:36 Und. Change yourselfs. So like for meets also seed of grove and and, like and I hope this three that I blanted here today we presence this äh interne world, and I hope to seeat floorishing over the next years. I said first that this green must big stand, das Moltri. I don't know to say. I dream to be a green Planet. But this like ähm.

30:29 For see a Greenplanet. So, my Mom is planting inside of forcef the intention of eat being more a green Planet beyond the words, Ich don't sieht jetzt she's imagining they want they will happen. And I am planting with in myself the zero possibility there my mom with be a life to see eat happen. Ein Remain from this project for you for others for the future. I think just for, for to dates auch so für die Connections that we made, we have had some lovely conversations. Da kann auch so beverlob in a it something that is the some my like a seed and äh sorry.

31:20 Ja, you can act maybe you meet again maybe äh we came to the so media magic no more oft and maybe we stand with the projects, maybe diverse. Yeah with the Artists. And the tree volse day. Hm. I really hope but this action here today of äh this people symbolizes, Moment auf Shift äh in a coachering which we.

31:46 Ja, many many years or centuries, curding to you down, curting trees down and that we are actually going starting a moment of for generation allocross äh europe and the planet. Air to be around the Childrun live Alive Wetter inspiriert. I think for meet so the accountability of äh a lot People do not take in nissities, because it don't hot to do things and they don't wanna do it alone. So very take from this see in that we can actually control we have some tony doing wither on hands and even you for dousn seem like a lot we are, Wir very welcome And now from Amsterdam we directly go ja to the Forest, with a thinking forest to land good Wellner.

32:50 Love, Landgut Wellner. My second time that because my connection origally for the is the artist äh gell hard Burger, because here invited me, todus signes me there. Wir sehen his brover. Also this is rare the connection a came from, Es beautiful little houses for, Sinas Retreats interesting holy placeter are coilological. Mhm. Foundings and, I this find a very magic of beautiful place. And I think that they are trying to do something a bit if, And I think they have äh interesting way of connecting, very different kind of perspectives. Because it is also a business that they run. Mhm.

33:45 Interesting people äh beautiful plates. Good food, good food, oh my god, that was also wonder for Catering, also. Abdando that's very good. Mhm. Ja. Mhm. So we are sours very have you about that connections and also, important to me that we plant some big atries and that we have a, very special place for them and that's that's what we tid with the lind intries. I didn't new that trease young prease. So heavy.

34:22 Yes and they were heavy. Yeah. Very very havy. I green. I would say. Fifty killers oder something, Iris Hardwork, well. Yes, favorite quite lot it, that we did that. Okay, that's no listen to brand and get one. Mhm. Äh Aber, Professional practice bin a balance between, what I cho äh so I'm business. So love to work at places where there is in balance to be found between, die Economic Reality and äh social äh ecological challenge.

35:15 Ähm, äh I have a Background in Digital. Digital Company, Ich, Agreen Parth after äh becoming cinicle about the Digital worles and having aclimate depression it was time to ähm look for work where good, du thinkst that have an influence and that really change something. Ähm. The digital world? But wants to decision was mades thinks moveds für die, have friend to go back. Dit you years ago. My Digital started with inspiration back in ninety five when the internet was just coming to the nennens.

36:36 I worked in the eature and the Digital, in Amsterdam and it was a lot of optimisim about to future of thit so about your lineroad how change society forty good and from that's inne show spark if inspiration I started and agency we are we boot use this distor of elution to make the world a betterplace.

37:04 Just blind sympost for cliens had a also a so sho go or in Education or science or culture we also hadsm, Ich. Two thousand and twelve I think two thousand terrorteen think started to shift äh die Online World was more central and around big cooperations. Be came ähm big Business the advertising model of Google and was introduced and it carte be more more about attention and ot about changing the world and before before ninety ninety five what in flements you. Uh, that's why back.

37:49 Algurb in ähm Community of äh few familys living together, So that was a fair interesting äh use there, Ah went to the circuled world of Schule and the styling school, also Influenza. And work on a sailing ship for Abo year, In Agrian where used to transport goods by a salin facle of a sailing ship. And that's factly were äh I love behind my Chills Chill and years and, Real lifest.

38:47 And here it well now art place a heach rule, Art a nature, sympportant for you, I think it's because of you that artic here now? Ähm well, this in the roots of wheelhouse well but ähm right now we managed to to to let it gro again. I think art is always playing fival row in society when you need new prospectives when äh big questions when äh Mysterries I think Art is actually only answer.

39:20 Die. And all in a state like well not their many challenges. Wechsel so greatly benefit from the Artist fuew, Newperspectives compiring things. About the nature the many functions we combine. So it's it's a rushe roll. What is well, now? Wellmer. I can give you like history lecture with might be not so interesting.

40:06 600 Hektar, It's been und by family. So it has a line, you're family tradition. And it's so so a company, where we tried to balance the natural ecology, äh Balance Switch, the natural. In that way he good comparat to small country. Where we have all this siming a problems, We are feople liveing here, we're feople fisseting, we have goverments, we have local goverments we have a lot of rules what we want to try new things, We have nails you to take care of which is white underpressure of climate change and not hands of other influences.

41:02 We have hour business, so they would that we have first and so and we make products on the state. So jetzt ähm a little country, where of different things happen. And why do you like at to be here to be director of villna? Well I never invisions me as someone being in this row it kind of happens. After Selling my company I was ask in the board to mor Lucus Supervising roll and.

41:42 Keine, so Der, Schön. Wo hast du denn porton for you? Work with projects like thinking Forest and the green train together. Wow, es heißt art is vital to everything actually, but also to this, War in many fields and art is crushe and äh thinking forst and verblend heaven äh, Und. And that's so perfect match. So I thinking forest in will nice a really good match the green train Äh Ninas Work is of course also about treas and about nature Ähm it's it's beautiful to bring that to this place. What does plating at remeans for you?

42:51 Wir tree's of course a simple for many things as specially delightry but plenty is is also about, Wir also about doing something for the future for the forture. Limetrea und so ultomated of of ähm connecting to the future I think Wir. Start small, that's what I learned by working here. Let's I I hope we are managed to creates what I call the first of the future und, and a this becomes äh a little green have and in a, Society intermoor. And which kind of roots do you want to leave? I would love to leve roots.

43:59 Ich solid roots where displace is grounded and is able to, Stroms of the future. It's in the ownership in the, Army do you next sizes here in the clim a change out Love this place to be root it so deep that it's can stand for not our hundred and fifty years and I am so happy that you rooted a bit here in my Podcast. Die Leichtigkeit der Kunst ähm, not being Identified. Thank you brown for your time, was very special. Thank you for coming. Thank you for this comforation. Die Gerbrand.

44:53 Came actually after i approdged äh brom the director of here to make a sculpture for this first, Es Stateholders hier in in to äh Align, on the projects so in the mean time I started thinking more about, whood and we are comes from and how it could, Ja äh so of a lorger project involving other people in Collaborations, how that could be compart of my äh practice is and artist. So to Expand my studio practice into the for the speak. Wird so important for you? Well I think because wood is so important for Humanity?

45:35 And people don't real likes that maybe sometimes at wood is the Material, that has a biggest, Importance like the biggest roll in in human development. Sins to beginning when we were äh apeving in the trease and making big nests. And äh slowly coming out to the treas walking into the Landscape and starting to build. How do you and well now fine together? Yes well a fend of mine from quiet long ago she good up here.

46:03 Äh behinders and äh she dous you any more, but that's two here, I got to know the place. When I was starting to work with whood as a Material for my art. I was looking for a place to make äh isculpture, that good stay in the forest and the nice walter again and I procem take the Director. What is the skyptur about? Ähm well this culpture started for me about the idea that I wanna to create sculptures, but not to them and not preserve them, but put anout in the force, Das kind of a storage for me permanent but not permanent storage of these objects and äh.

46:50 So this pretically work here at very now. It's gold actually a tojectually to amaze of tojectories Which is skin of a colled by äh timing gold? British Unthrepologist who is writing about how materials and objects don't really, Exist is final objects or final enterties but day always keep, evolving and becoming and so yeah this would I made äh the Artwork of, has the shape of this boot. But it's no ordly changing and forling apart and Getting software in grey and it will become so again.

47:27 And after let in might we gonna three or plant or animal there. And i see some books. Ja good question, it's they you can read ähm Welche Kinder hat er auch von seinem how can i them? What do way them? Ja, by looking at them and thinking about what they might mean eh we the rings is you can see in there and realise äh how much time at takes for the tweet to go and all your others also you and have. What do you ready denn them?

47:58 Well I see them partly also es ist symbol for this äh with them of the first. That the. Thinking forest is kind of a double Name. It's like a thinking forest, that is producing this wisdom but also a place to go to to to think like äh and we are sitting here together because where particense of the Green train. What has the green train means to you.

48:28 Initiative by Nina Backmann is you know and we met five here to go in Helsinki, And sins then we have captin touch and I have invited here last here äh with the thinking forest foundation in the summer for mit summers evening, Es She had be in Developing this green train project in the mean time and ask me to be a partnerin it.

48:55 So also think it's wonderful to invite other artist here is well with their projects and ähm, Äh ja dissens of collaboration and and any growing common project. The Gabriel thanks a lot. Thank you for heading me. Die Janina Back to You. Artworksject. Yeah. Which we can by. You are materialis the nature trees.

49:26 Ist der Collectors to supported, Ich. Bei the street and the certificate and that what coms with that äh for the collect to also is the kind of way how to take care of that three There are is apossibility for collectis to by that? I should also mansionart flash? Hohe Selling Artpriends and äh they they wanted to help me out this well so they would the certific it. Und there site and you good by a big tree with the Certificat.

50:08 And so we try that. So yeah Stefany, it is possible for the collectis tobay that and I wish day would be more collectise, wo would like to support the project. Mhm. Yeah. And where you wanted to see plans from your project as well? I would like to äh how more museums an Art institutions to GP connected to the project and then I think this thries good beplanted near by Museums as well and also that we would have the small pockets of of silence in inside cities, where we good plant treas wish would be a kind of daily reminder of People also about the importance of platin trees and and about this project because I think it's visualis backing also important your have places, reople can see the treas grow.

50:57 And then really I i wish that would go and come everywhere in your and we have now some Australian People who also cuting contact with me and, asking and think wow this is inspiration or be would like to do something like that in Australier so. I think the you know the potential is that you. Do you think nature is mobil for a lot of People when it's cord out Ich importants of our nature.

51:29 Ich. And I've be is like that the biggest stretch and a biggest changer, we have at to moment is the his the clima change. And I think we have to in any ways we can. Every individual. I think it's important to try to do something. Also for me as an Artist. Is is just, one way of trying to do something which is connected to my artistic practice. But also, something concrete and good for the inviement. Now we hard some sound by the particence of mediamatic.

52:15 Auf Landgut Wellener and I thinking Forest of Mariella Zalano from the European Sleeper. If you look back, we record if you days later, back here in Berlin. Wollte es das Strongest Image your carry with you from the green train. I can't choose one. I there soul many. Mhm. Ist keine many images flashing by. I think the beginning, I will always remember the Korean.

52:47 Came to as one we willing a train train are these the treas are you and ähm that was so surprising, so I was not expecting that. Mhm. And äh, I think it was very meaning for to plan the biglinde intreases well and ah just was over wound by the very positive response and how People was so happy bitte we that trease and all the conversations and äh all the new connections and And I have to say I was a very have it you have my sun with me.

53:22 So I was very happy to have are time we dosis well, I mean this with äh really wonderful think and that all you very not to now der Journalist with äh joining them journey Literally speaking and also that we had the caramer man Marko we us, we had a wonderful dokumentations of the first äh green train.

53:42 And that this with squite lucky to, you have that, so this really mate me very happy die Arte Mediathek. Yes. So this with really wonderfrom. Yeah so we have a really beautiful food itch, also äh of the whole hold trip. Yes and I was also very happy to to to work with Artpress Ute Weingard and whoa have done a fee project now. So this with i was it project on I was reallym.

54:10 Haar bitte half heres Well because should did so touch to beautiful marketing for the for the project and all the I mean the hold team that chiha sei, I very much fly can appreciate. Ja, she team is amazing. What you has eng about lightness? What over is come to me, also äh surprise. How much happiness it brings to, GPL Phrases, something as simple as trese together. And maybe that's because it's about doing something.

54:42 I think a lot of excited maybe away when you are acting and doing something And maybe there is a lightness in that of doing something acting. Making think tappen, die Nina, I love acting with you, Thank you. Our straily. Imaging that. Ja. If you would come all around the world, if you would go all yes, I would love to do that. It's so inspiring to learn from you, not in that Teaching Whey more in country way. Yeah, Ich.

55:28 Thank you for all the trips we did I hope, our journey will rolon. Yes. METI. I was so nice. Thanks a lot for your time and but hey I have to say a big thank you to you as well. I was so happy to have you so thank you so much for think brother. Ich, I ready det. Thank you. And thank you Ute.