Godzilla Minus One Spoilers Review : GV Classic

0:01 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to a Geek First Review. I am Nogzilla Trastale. I'm joined by.

0:08 I'm the dormant dweller, Kirkland Patzer.

0:13 I am the king of the monsters, Taylor Field.

0:15 Oh, you hear that, Taylor? That sippin' on that eggnog? Mm-hmm.

0:19 Yeah, I had a little bit more today.

0:20 I'm wielding some myself as well.

0:21 You guys are fuckin' cowards.

0:23 We've always loved it.

0:24 What do you mean, cowards? What? Cowards liars. You tried it for the first time, like, last cast. Well, I already objessed it. I mean, I already.

0:31 Ingest it?

0:32 I've already ingested it.

0:34 No, no. Shh. I had it. Oh, no.

0:37 That's what you're looking for.

0:38 It's ingest. No, it wasn't. Oh, my God. I already acknowledged it last cast that you were a liar. They're all liars, you know? I don't know.

0:49 It's just.

0:50 these like guys that are like, oh, I'm not going to say that actually. Just quit while you're ahead. Yeah, yeah, not for Godzilla. That's more an after nine conversation because it'll take us in a much different route. But yes, we are here finally to talk about Godzilla minus one. This is a movie that, of course, you probably were wondering, oh, why didn't we promote or say we're going to do anything other than I think the past few casts because at one point we weren't really getting it. It had been out for, I think, two weeks and Taylor was checking out Every day, you know, calling the landmark, going knocking, 6 a.m. No one's there at 6 a.m., but he's still knocking.

1:26 Dangling on the window.

1:27 Yeah. Man, where's minus one? But, yeah, funny enough, we did get it because it's doing so well abroad in America and maybe South Canada. Who knows? But it's doing well there, so it's extended. At least here it's extended, I think, until the new year. So that's really cool. But, yeah, so that's why we're here. We're going to give our non-spoiler thoughts. So there might be some people that haven't seen it yet or have They're in the same boat with us. Like, they don't have it yet. So, we will give, you know, a 15-20 minute, you know, just non-spoilers or thoughts. If we recommend it, stuff like that. Obviously, if you can't see it, that sucks. But I would recommend, I think most of us maybe try to wait, if

2:00 you can, for your theaters. Or even, like, an HD version. But if not, if you're saying, hey, I don't want to wait and just listen to spoilers, there will be that. But, of course, we'll give a little break and then we'll go into that. Make sure you follow everything we do. You know, like, review, subscribe. We really appreciate it. If you really like what we do, head over to Patreon.

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3:15 They delayed it a whole year, but I'm ready for it. So Taylor, where can they find all that good jazz when it is out in the world?

3:23 Ladies and gentlemen, you can find all that with your net connection. Geekverse.ca is our base. Geekverse.cast is our Twitter. Geekverse is our Facebook. I should start saying X now, I guess.

3:32 Fuck.

3:32 No, say Twitter. Fuck X.

3:35 New people that are like.

3:36 What's Twitter?

3:36 I only know X.

3:38 Does it still say Twitter? In the URL.

3:40 Right now, it says twitter.com slash home. I don't know. They'll probably just go back. I'm not calling it fucking X. Unless I'm watching porn, I ain't calling it anything X. That's due to my comment I wasn't going to say. Kirkland Patzer, how did you feel about Godzilla Minus One?

4:01 Yeah, this was an exciting watch. I hadn't seen any promotional material for this going into it other than just the Discord buzz. We got Patreon Clay that was popping off in the Discord there. I think he was the first one that I saw his reactions from it and he's notorious for just hating movies these days and he oh yeah he had extremely high praise for it yeah yeah and uh i mean i'm glad our schedules aligned so all three of us were able to see this in theaters together that was a that was a fun time for sure and uh my my like history with godzilla is i don't even know like how it sparked but i was i just remember being a massive godzilla like fan when i was when i was a wee lad i can't remember what window of age it was

4:46 but like i have multiple godzilla like action figures i don't know what movies or tv shows i would have seen that okay is.

4:53 There by is there by chance it would have been the 90s roland emmerich one with matthew broadway because that was my very first because i was young and it was just like that was around like i know i'm a couple years older than you but that was just around when we were that age right yeah that was our godzilla movie like in north america came out so.

5:09 It probably is. I'll Google it once I pass the baton here. So maybe spark some memories. But just like the design of Godzilla was very similar to actually what, I mean, this movie's Godzilla was. And it just really stuck in my brain. And I just, I don't know. I just, I loved what Godzilla was. I think it's a really badass name. The fact that it's just like super, extremely powerful makes it, I don't know, likable, at least in my eyes as a wee lad. And yeah, so I always had like a warm spot before Godzilla made me really kind of excited for this new age of Godzilla movies that we've been getting. And unfortunately, they've kind of been going downhill for me. I think they maybe peaked probably on the first one, honestly. But that's not,

5:57 I don't think... I don't think that has anything to do with Godzilla himself. Maybe just like the story that they've been trying to tell around.

6:04 No, I heard he's been rewriting the scripts. Like he gets them. He's like, no, I want to. That's why he beat Kong's ass so bad in Godzilla vs. Kong. It's like the rock. I got to go over.

6:12 His special contract clauses that he has to lose.

6:15 I can't lose. I can't lose. So I can only lose to one of my monsters. I can't lose to something else.

6:20 Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, the fact that I haven't been loving like these recent ones made this one kind of exciting. But like I also didn't have high expectations. expectations for it's just like okay I know another Godzilla movie from Japan that's exciting and man I was extremely blown away by this I I thought this was just it totally took me back to that feeling of a kid or as a kid just like seeing Godzilla at this almighty power and just the fear that that it brought uh to the characters I thought that was just on another level But then you have like a really human story, like interwoven. That's not a word.

6:54 Interwoven. Interwoven or intertwined. You put them both together.

6:57 I'm going to use both.

6:58 Interwoven.

6:59 I like that word.

6:59 Interwoven. That sounds like something Tom Bombolin would say. I've been interwoven with the magic.

7:04 It's a riddle for sure. But like that story really caught me off guard. I was really just expecting just a monster flick. And the fact that they did such a good job at telling that story on the just parallel with the Godzilla, uh, just monstrous event that, that, that was. And yeah, it just really felt scary and world ending. And for this to just be contained in one movie, I thought they were able to tell such a clean, clean story compared to like what all these other, uh, multiple movies have been trying to do. So yeah, very, very impressed by this one. And, you know, when we watch this in the theaters, I might have been dozing off back and forth here and there. It was a long day for me, but I managed to rewatch it since. And, yeah,

7:50 I was very, very, very impressed by this movie. And, yeah, it was a fun theater experience with you guys.

7:57 It was. Yeah, I'll go next because I'll leave Godzilla Boy, The King of Monsters, last. So, yeah, I feel like... You okay there, Taylor?

8:05 Oh, I just, yeah, Godzilla Boy.

8:07 This man's just drinking it from the carton, too. I don't think you've ever seen Trask Snell just drink it from the carton now. I don't think we have.

8:14 Just big glasses would never... I mean, and this.

8:16 Guy's... His glass is probably more than this entire carton, honestly.

8:19 Yeah, because you get the small carton, right?

8:21 Yeah, this is the 946 mil.

8:23 That's fair, then. That's fair. My little mouth, if it's my little mouth. Don't give me ideas. The big... Oh, not too big. He drinks it just everywhere. But I feel like from... If people have listened to Geek Fritz in the past, you'd probably think, oh, Draftsman and Godzilla fan. He shits all the time. It's not really the case.

8:41 I'm a massive fan of Godzilla as far as what I like Godzilla for. It's not so much like the lore and I'm not Taylor and stuff. I've not seen every Godzilla. It's just like the concept of a big, you know, kaiju movie monster. Oh yeah. I like that. You know, I like King Kong. So that's my, it's a genre I do like, but what Kirk was talking about, I am definitely in the camp where the 2014 one, at least we're talking current age stuff. Cause And that's where maybe one day, you know, Taylor will probably cream his jeans. One day I'd love to do retro or just even do like what we did with Daniel Craig of like retro and era of Godzilla instead of every Godzilla film. Because, Taylor, calm down. I don't need any comment.

9:15 I said one day. He started shedding his clothes right now. He's standing up rock hard right now.

9:23 Yeah.

9:24 He's looking like Godzilla with the blue. But anyways.

9:30 So.

9:31 I've seen classics of them. I've seen some black and white. I've seen them, but I don't have like, oh, there's this and there's this. I always have to ask, hey, what's this from this? But I love the concept. And for the most modern ones, 2014, I did enjoy that one. Actually, you can go back. We retro reviewed all those of that Monsterverse. So they are on the feeds. But for me, that release order is my also ranking order. I think they got worse and worse. Maybe I'd have to think about it. Maybe as I heard some cases for King of Monsters, maybe I would put that over Kong Skull Iron, because that is, oof, what a movie. But there's just been something severely lacking in those movies. And I'm not

10:06 trying to bring those down to bring this up, but I have to a little, just because it's what we talk about where now there's stuff, and I even said this on the newscast, that If you like those Godzilla and Kong movies, that's great because those are definitely the popcorn, you know, have some friends, laugh it so bad, so good.

10:23 There's going to be some moments that don't really make sense. It's just a big beat-em-up, right? If you just want to watch some sort of big brawl, cool. What I want, and that's what the 2014 one was closer to, but what I want is definitely what we got here. And it definitely delivered because I'd heard all the good praise and I heard, oh, this is the type of movie it's like. And that's one thing because you can get overhyped and you can hear it overrated because just even if it's like a little bit better than the current Godzilla, some people are like, oh, this is the best thing ever.

10:49 And then you watch it, okay, this is good, but it's not like sliced bread. But no, I can easily say it's one of the best films of the year, which is tough because I think right now I have it ranked currently 10, but that's because I also know in Golden Geeks we've been doing, there's certain films like Bottoms I know are not going to be in our Golden Geeks, but I think this would be one that definitely comes up in conversation. I was blown away. This is a phenomenal film. This is like something Craig was talking about where we always, it's so funny where I feel like when we're talking about these current modern North American Godzilla comic movies, we're always like, oh, we gotta have the fucking humans. We hate the humans. And now

11:20 it's like, we hate those humans because now I just realized they're just all shit stories. And now I've seen a movie where primarily majority of this film, I'd say 75% screen time is the humans. It's the human story. Godzilla has big moments. There's big set pieces. It's all based around him. Don't worry about that. Like the third act delivers as far as it's all about, okay, how do we take this thing down? But it's multiple stories.

11:42 It's not just the main story with our main character. That's good, which I'm probably going to butcher some names as we go along, but our main character, like his story is great, but then you got all these little Meyer stories and it's a, also we'll get into in spoilers, the way they connect all these characters, really all of them, but especially the two, it's like a very unconventional type of way. It's not just like, oh yeah, we've seen this million times. It's like, This is great. I love it.

12:03 It's set back in World War II type of era, like a little in it, a little after, like somewhere sprinkled throughout there, but it's in the 40s. But no, that's the biggest thing where even Godzilla's not on the screen, and I'm enthralled with what's going on, and the biggest part is you actually care about these humans. How many of those films have we watched or viewed? we don't give a fuck if any of them die. We don't care at all. They're just people to get to the big fight. This is like, oh, I don't want these people to die. I'm rooting for these people. This is one of these movies that make, like, they make you root for life, and you're just like, fuck yeah, at the end. You know, it's like one of those just like,

12:35 when movies are magic, there's nothing better, and that's why I think this had, I think there's, at times, Godzilla, the effects are a little meh, but the thing about that is, I will take sometimes where, my example, I was telling Taylor in the car, there's a moment where Godzilla comes up, And they just have these assets of water just constantly flowing on his head. But it's like at this point, he had been standing up for a while where the water wouldn't be coming down. But you can tell it's just like a water asset just being spammed on him. But the thing is, I will take lesser or a couple effect shots that are like not looking the greatest to the most pristine, best Gollum, Andy Serkis.

13:10 He could be fucking Godzilla. But if the story sucks, it doesn't matter. So that's why I can hand wave that stuff and go, okay. whatever, I'm getting this fantastic story, and the biggest thing for me is Godzilla, he's fucking scary in this, at least from what I've seen, I feel like this is the scariest I've ever felt Godzilla be, you know, there's certain times in the 2014 one, the aspect of it, he was not scary in the Royal Network one, and then there's certain older ones, even because they're older, it's like, it's tough, he was frightening, the opening scene of this movie was like, fuck, like, I would not ever want to be in this, like, of course not, but just like, the way they impose his scale,

13:45 and it's just like, They do lots of great stuff as far as putting him beside certain mountains or buildings or just certain war objects. And they really emphasize how big and also grotesque he is at times. And the other thing I'll shout out to is, this will probably come up for me in Golden Geeks, is the score.

14:01 The score was A plus all around. Not just like the loud moments, quiet moments too, but when Godzilla was there, you just felt like this rush. Like, man, it was the scale, it was the cinematography, and that music was coming out.

14:15 Oh, fuck.

14:15 Like, I was scared every time.

14:18 There was something about, like, specifically Godzilla's theme, too. It felt like the old school Godzilla themes, but just, like, modernized. And it's just, like, when you hear that music, it's like.

14:29 Oh, no.

14:30 Like, terror is coming. You see the dead fish float in the water. It totally just, like, hit you with that fear before you even saw him. And that's exactly, like, how the on-screen characters would have been reacting to it. So, yeah, good shout-out for the score, for sure.

14:43 Yeah, so that's one I'll be fighting for next year when we do that. But yeah, overall, this is definitely one of the best films of the year I've seen. Like I said, it's probably my top 10. It might get pushed out, but that's because at least the back half has been really good. Like, my top 10 now may or may not all just have perfect scores. So, I think the first half of the year was a little rocky. I think we had a lot of disappointments with this back half. It's making a good comeback. I don't think it compares last year when we had, you know, the Batman and all this, like, what was it? The Batman, everything, everywhere, all at once. RRR, like, Yeah, Top Gun. Like, there was tons of stuff. Where now, it feels like, okay,

15:15 we're getting some really juicy stuff in October to December. But hey, may as well get it. So yeah, absolutely recommend this. Even if you've never cared at all about Godzilla, I recommend this film. And yeah, that's all I have to say in the non-spoiler section. So, Taylor Field, take it away.

15:33 Yeah, I mean, I just, I love Godzilla. It's always been my jam. Really, really, like, Big on it. Played the games with my cousin. Me and my cousin always used to love playing it on GameCube, Wii, Monsters Unleashed, all those different types of Godzilla games where you have the cityscape and you're duking it out. Such a good time.

15:51 And yet, for me, that Emmerich one was definitely, I don't think my introduction, but it was definitely the one I was most re-watching, probably, while my cousin was super into the other ones with, like, They're wearing the suits and stuff. And I remember my cousin introduced me to Final Wars, which came out after the Emmerich one. And that one was just, I think it was like 13 different kaijus in there. And it had aliens and just Godzilla fighting like one monster after the next. Just all out.

16:22 It was Final Wars. It was fantastic. And someday I will make that effort to go through like the 30 plus Godzilla films. Because I've seen a few of the black and white ones like Kinkidora and a few of the other... kaijus being like introduced mothra and all that kind of stuff so when we finally get to the more recent films i i feel like i'm definitely into some of them over the others where some of them definitely are definitely lacking certain elements that i i wish that were there like for me king of the monsters is fantastic i love that i feel like it delivers on so many different Godzilla notes. And then the original 2014 one, I just, I love that one because I want to really feels like that's the scale of Godzilla

17:07 that really sells it for me there. Um, but then when we kind of move on from that, it definitely, Godzilla loses that scale. He loses that scariness. And I, the more you see him, and I think this is where, when you see a villain or a monster, or even if you don't know it's a human being, but you see like what this person's wearing and they're, they're dangerous, they're evil in a film. but you can see their face, you can identify what they are. And it kind of strips away that, that fear component to a degree, I'd say.

17:36 And so with Godzilla, he's much more prominent on screen. He's sprinting now. And so there's a little bit less of a, I'd say like a fear factor involved with him. And they tried to maybe play that out in Godzilla versus Kong, that he's not necessarily the good guy. He's kind of an ass and he's something that, you know, he's, he's wrecking shit up. And so, It still didn't feel scary because that scale factor kind of disappeared after King of the Monsters. Now enter Godzilla Minus One, and they've brought that scale factor in, and I am so happy that they did that. And yes, there is a heavy focus on the human storylines and narratives, but there's nothing wrong with that. While some of it was slow, I

18:19 never found it to be boring. I found it very engaging, and I found it to be just very, very beneficial because... The storylines do connect, like you said, Travis. They come together, and I'm glad to see how we get from point A all the way to the end point of the story because there are so many moments that happen, and you really care for the characters, and you say, oh, my God, they're going through some serious shit. It's cool to have a story focusing on these characters where they're not relying on Godzilla, but when Godzilla does make an appearance throughout this film, it is terrifying. Again, the scale factor.

18:55 and certain shots where it was very prominent that it was CGI, and you can easily overlook it because you're more or less just taken aback by just the intensity of the scene. And like you said, Kirkland, or I guess both of you guys said this, when the score kicks in, that classic Godzilla theme, there's one part near the back half of the film that it clicks in, and it's just humans are doing something, and Godzilla is just like, doing something and just that score kicks in it's like oh this is just this is so badass this is just so so cool um but yeah it's just it's overall it was a very very impressive film i was so happy with it i'm so glad that we finally got it um and i was worried that the the ushers wouldn't let me into the movie because

19:41 i thought right as soon as travis told me that some six-year-old girl.

19:46 Ready to throw down with taylor field.

19:47 Oh yeah as soon as travis told me tickets were live here, I immediately bought tickets. I bought them for the 6.30 show. And then... Super sold out. Oh, yeah. Then we coordinated like, okay, we'll do like the 9.40 showing. And so I couldn't refund my tickets, but I called the theater and I said, yeah, we can exchange it for the same later showing because it's in the same theater.

20:06 All you got to do is just bring your tickets And then that's it. Because she's like, okay, I got your booking ID, and I speak into a manager, and she's like, okay, well, I marked that seat as sold, and yada, yada, yada. So I went up to the concession, or the usher. I'm like, hey, so I spoke to a manager. It sounds super shady.

20:24 How did you get your popcorn?

20:26 I was like, so I spoke to a manager, and they said that I gave them my booking ID, and they switched seats to the later showing. And she's like, well, do you have the name of the manager?

20:34 I'm like, no, I don't have the name.

20:36 It's just, oh, no.

20:38 It was very shady. But she let me in.

20:40 She looked at my ticket, and she let me get in. I could have bullshitted.

20:44 It took about almost five minutes, so I was like, I'm going to go in there with Adam here soon, you know?

20:49 Yeah.

20:50 But it worked.

20:51 They let me in.

20:53 They let you in. Well, we're going to let you in on the spoilers. So if anything else to say about the spoilers?

20:59 Let's get it.

21:00 Going once, going twice. Let's get it. So yeah, we'll be right back. So if you've not seen the movie, and you want to stay away from spoilers, Here's your chance. If not, we'll be right back. And we are back. So, yeah. Let's start at the end. Let's start at the end.

21:20 Let's start at the end.

21:21 Lead us in, Kirkland.

21:22 Do you want to go to the end?

21:26 Let's start at the beginning.

21:29 I'm teasing you. I'm teasing you.

21:31 Oh, I know what you're doing. That may or may not be where we lost Kirkland the first time before he went to see it and saw it again.

21:40 I don't know where you actually, like, lost me, though. Because, like, on the rewatch, I'm like, I do not remember this sequence. And then there'd be, like, keep going. I'm like, oh, I remember all of this. So I think I must have been, like, fading in and out at multiple times in the movie. That's the worst. Definitely majority of the end.

21:53 Like, that audio was loud. Those Godzilla roars and.

21:57 I'm a heavy sleeper.

21:59 Yeah. Kirkland's fucked if we're ever going to bathe in the middle of the night.

22:03 I was shocked, though, because the final scene of the movie, I don't even remember that. So I definitely woke up at the credit roll. But yeah. Fuck, that was funny.

22:13 Well, let's start at the beginning, actually. It's a good place because we meet a lot of characters here. But does anyone want to take a stab at the main character's name? Is it Koichi? It's K-O-I-C-H-I.

22:26 Koichi.

22:27 Koichi?

22:28 That'd be my guess.

22:29 I'm going to call him a pilot because I'm going to butcher it a bunch of times.

22:32 Shikishima. He's a badass.

22:34 Yeah.

22:34 Shikishima. That is a pretty cool name. He has a wild IMDb photo. He looks really scared in it. How are you looking?

22:40 That was me when I woke up and Taylor said the movie's over.

22:44 So anyways, like we said, this takes place in the 40s. We get introduced to him because he lands on this island. He's a kamikaze pilot and this is for ship repairs. And there's some back and forth dialogue, but then one of the guys just goes, it doesn't really look like your ship needs repairing now. Luckily, or sorry, your plane needs repairing. Yeah, that wouldn't make much sense. He's a kamikaze pilot who shows up with a boat. Like, you can't kamikaze with a boat, sir. It's not going to work the same way. But anyway, so they pretty much incinerate, okay, this guy's a deserter. You know, he's just trying to get out of there and everything. And really before they can break it down, because he has this good conversation.

23:23 There's multiple good conversations throughout the movie. He has this good conversation about a guy who unfortunately doesn't make it, but he's kind of sympathizing with him. Like, you know, oh, well, you know, why should you go and kill yourself for a war that's practically over? Well, that point doesn't matter because you're like, and then Kirkland woke up for the first time. No, but you hear that.

23:41 For seven minutes.

23:42 And then it's great because there's the sound and there's movement, but you don't see them. You get this quick spotlight shot. of Godzilla in the spotlight gets taken out, and then it's slowly revealed. Now, Ted, I know you said this was a lower part of the CGI for you. This was actually a higher part for me, because like I said, at times when he was in the water, I found there were some issues going on, but I thought with him being at nighttime and being shaded by some fire, but this is when the scale really came in, because you just have these skies on their feet, on the ground, looking up. There's one great shot. I can't remember what Godzilla hit down, but it was like went from his arm to, like, under his chin to, like, around. I

24:18 think in the early on, they did a great job of establishing just how big he was. And this wasn't even, like, the full-size Godzilla at this point because he grows. But I just think they did a great job on the island, even showing them just certain... They said just a weird shot of, like, almost stomach up. It's like a weird porn POV. Just cock. Just cock-laving. Yeah. But just, like, I thought on the beginning, they did lots of job of establishing the fear and then the... The scale of him and our characters, except for the main character in another one, did not make it because he was told to go fire the gun. Again, so he goes away from the war and then he also froze up and would not shoot Godzilla. He was shaken and froze up.

24:56 So lots of things happened in the first 15, 20 minutes, which I thought was a great setup. I was already like, okay, we're in good hands.

25:03 Yeah, I thought it was a fantastic scene of just showing... I wasn't expecting on seeing Godzilla that early in the movie. So when they turn over and he's just right there. There's no buildup of suspense. He's just right there. It's like a Jurassic Park scene where it's nighttime. You got your T-Rex right there where you just pop off. And he is popping off. It's not even like this is the first introduction before we get into some actual action.

25:26 So that was terrifying. And also they did a great job of just establishing... like, the main struggle that our main character goes through for this entire thing is just, like, facing his fear. You know, in Japan, especially, like, around that World War II era, like, honor is just a massive thing amongst those people. So, like, all of, like, the mechanics just already seem, like, you know, this guy, all the other people that are supposed to be having the same duty are just, like, killing themselves for the force.

25:56 And he's just....

25:59 He's just, nah, not for me.

26:02 Oh, my ship.

26:03 My ship's broken. So they know what's going on right away. And that's something that kind of, I mean, yeah, it really is the main weight on his shoulders throughout the entire movie. It's not until the end that he really is able to kind of finally face that. He's not even able to have a proper relationship with the female character that gets introduced a little bit later on. So yeah, it was just a great setup for the main character as well as the main big baddie and I was really surprised that Godzilla was so small. I kind of just took it like, oh my God, this version of Godzilla is going to be so much smaller than the other versions that I'm used to seeing here lately. Definitely did not realize that he just grows from, what is that,

26:45 from damage or just by growth?

26:47 Because there was a quick cut scene that showed the U.S. doing nuclear testing.

26:52 Oh, okay.

26:52 So that's what grew him.

26:54 Yeah, that's what kind of fucked him up. Because then it cuts to a scene of, like, his head being, like, nuclear, like, juiced.

27:00 Right. He was getting the steroids pumped and just ready to kick ass. But, I mean, all in all, I thought it was a fantastic opening scene. And, yeah, CGI really didn't bother me at all. Like, I definitely was able to, like, I could tell it wasn't a real Godzilla. Like, I could tell it was a CGI monster. But I thought for the majority of the usage of Specifically Godzilla.

27:21 They did a good job at blending it in with the rest of the world, at least in my opinion. And maybe some of the other open sea shots with the big destroyer ships looked a little bit less than fantastic. Mostly when they had a lot of CGI people on the boats, it was kind of easy to tell. But really, for me, I thought all of the CGI with Godzilla himself looked really, really good.

27:43 Yeah, like you said, Travis, for me, the beginning.

27:46 Um, not.

27:47 So much as soon as that spotlight hit him, because as soon as the spotlight hit him, that was, that was well done. But the beginning part, it had moments that were really, really good. It almost felt like they were practical effects to a degree with the way that like the feet were put into the ground nearby as the men were like running around and whatnot. But there were certain shots of just the way Godzilla was moving and it was, he was moving so quickly i felt like his reflexes were just too quick the way he'd snap like his head left and right just like really fucking fast.

28:14 He's smaller you know that's why.

28:16 Yeah and it just it's sprint better than the new godzilla.

28:20 Yeah yeah it just felt uh it felt destroy him in a race it felt very noticeable just the way that.

28:26 They try to walk out i'm gonna just give it a chance.

28:29 Yeah i'm out but the other scene.

28:31 Give me are you kidding me First he runs, now he's small, now his neck moves.

28:36 I had to fight the usher for this.

28:39 The other scenes, though, once we get to him in the city, and then especially him in the water, I felt those were some of the really, really good scenes. That later part where he attacks Japan the second time, and now our pilot is actually in the plane, and he's flying around him. I thought that was really, really good.

28:56 And just the way they shot certain things with the close-ups of the plane going in between his mouth. when he's trying to like bite him, that was really cool. So like just the CGI for me progressively got better as the film advanced, but yeah, there, there was, um, the, the intro set up there that I really, really liked because it was just, it was so simple and it was just presented itself like, Hey, we're not dealing with monsters or anything like that. We're dealing with a very realistic thing where human being doesn't feel comfortable with committing suicide and, in the name of their country at this war.

29:31 And at this point of the war, Germany has already surrendered. So maybe you're probably dealing with a lot of people in this war on Japan's side that don't feel like they really necessarily are going to make a difference, and why would they waste their life? And obviously it's reciprocated when that other mechanic agrees and says we don't really believe and just follow orders, and that's it. The other guy, I can't remember his name. He was the head mechanic who survives.

29:55 Really, he....

29:57 I don't know. Kirkland, let's say you're there in the trench, and he tells you to go to the 22 guns. They're the 20 guns. I can kill anything. Are you going out there? Because fuck that. He's not going to do anything. And remember, you're in a plane.

30:12 You're not moving.

30:13 So you have to wait for Godzilla to go in front of your sights.

30:15 But again, this is what I was saying because Taylor brought that up because I was saying the guy, I still think he's supposed to be a coward. That's what they're to me. It's It's debatable, right? Because his whole thing of not being a kamikaze pilot, and the guy's like, yeah, the end of the war and stuff like that. He was like, I agree. Politically, why are we doing that?

30:36 He just was scared. He just didn't want to. And that's fine. I'm not saying, I mean, it's cowardly not how I'm not saying he's a coward, but the way, like Kirkman said, they would look at him, right? They would look at him as a coward in that age of you have given tasks to do something. So now, especially this guy who's the only one trained on this machine that could potentially kill this thing Goes and doesn't shoot. Now, again, I agree. Probably the idea was just to hide. But this is the 40s. So up in this point, when they say, hey, this gun, everything it shot, it's tearing down.

31:07 Of course, they're going to think, well, get this gun and shoot Godzilla and it's going to work. Right. Because it's not like where we are now. We have so much data and research. We've seen so many different weapons. Up in this point, it's like this gun works on everything. You've got to shoot it. So I do get a bit of their point of view. And also I said to Taylor, though, the other way you look at it is if he shoots and it fails, only he dies and maybe all those other guys survive where there are versus now he survived and all of them died. But then you could argue if he doesn't survive, they might not have a pilot for the final third act, right?

31:38 So it's a full circle.

31:40 It's also their fault because if he goes and he shoots and he dies, then chances are the mechanic– still is scared and shoots and then they die regardless because that was all the mechanic's.

31:50 Fault but no but you could also argue that if he sees that big gun not work oh i'm not gonna shoot because that gun didn't.

31:56 Work no he was still shooting he was.

31:57 No see i disagree because i think the reason he shot is because the guy kept telling the guy shoot shoot shoot so this guy's like fuck if he's not gonna shoot i'm gonna shoot so i think there's a chance if he shoots and that doesn't work the guy's okay that gun clearly doesn't work they shot because they were getting scared Because our pilot was like, fuck it, I'm not shooting Godzilla. I'm out.

32:16 But Godzilla didn't notice them. And then the guy, the captain mechanic's like, don't.

32:20 Shoot, you idiot.

32:21 He calls him an idiot, too.

32:22 Yeah, he's still screwed up. But I'm saying I think they shot out of fear. Oh, they did? Yeah, so that's what I mean, though. But if that guy's shooting, some of that fear is gone. They could run. They could see that gun doesn't work.

32:33 I think they were just like, everybody shoot now.

32:35 Everybody shoot.

32:36 If the pilot shoots and it doesn't work and dies, then the guy's going to be even more terrified. Like, fuck. fuck, and just starts shooting away. He's not going to just hide.

32:44 You don't know, though. You don't know.

32:45 He pulled the helms deep, for sure. His finger slipped. He let that arrow loose a little bit too early. But, yeah, I agree with bits of both of what you guys were saying, actually, where I agree with Travis in the sense of, like, up until this point, like, I don't know if I would really be relying on this failed kamikaze pilot to go do this, but also.

33:07 That's fair, too.

33:08 Like they are still in wartime so technically like that is the order of operations that they have to do so I don't think like from the mechanics perspective of like sending him out there is wrong by any means because yeah like up until this point that is the ultimate like that will shred through anything but I also kind of agree with Taylor in the sense of like as soon as the pilots start shooting I think everybody's just shooting at the same time like let's just fucking one big bang get this thing dead and then we're fine Taylor, to answer your question, you were asking me if I was going to go do that. I would like to think, yes, I could go do that, but probably not. I'd probably be running for the hills and

33:46 just hiding in a grassy knoll somewhere.

33:49 I would try to pitch and just say, that's not going to do anything. Let's just hide.

33:54 Let's talk about this plan before this.

33:58 Well, they were whispering, you go over there and shoot. And the pilot's like... You go, okay, I'm going to go. It felt like a little bit SNL skit. Not a bad way, but just like, all right, and these are shaking. So I would have made a pitch of like, let's just... hunker down, and hope for the best. Because that's how those two survived. The guy survived by just getting knocked out.

34:19 He didn't even hide. He just became a lifeless body on the ground.

34:23 Initially, I thought the plan was to actually get the plane airborne and attack him from the sky or whatever. So I'm like, oh yeah, that'll work out a little bit better. But also, I feel like this guy's just going to fly away as soon as he gets airborne. But no, he didn't turn on the plane. I'm sure Godzilla would have stopped him right away in his tracks.

34:39 Probably, yeah.

34:40 Didn't seem like he had the best eyesight, though, Godzilla. I guess it was also pretty dark.

34:45 He needs some glasses. It was dark. He needs some glasses. Maybe he's... I don't know how old he is at this point. Plus, the radiation can't be good for his eyes, you know? Just messing it up big time.

34:54 Yeah, that's true.

34:55 I was going to ask, why do you think... He did multiple, like, I think at least two, maybe three kills of the... Like, biting him and then throwing him away. Does he not like the taste of man flesh? Yeah, I don't know. I was just caught off guard why he would just throw him. Deep sea fish.

35:10 Deep sea fish. That's what he feeds on.

35:12 Oh, okay.

35:13 That's what I was going to ask. You read my mind.

35:15 The ocean just must have nothing there in Japan. It just must all be gone. He's a big dude.

35:20 All the fish are floating up, right? All the dead fish and whatnot.

35:24 Well, then he's even more hungry because he's not even getting those little appetizers. There must be zero... At least it's like there's no sharks there, but Godzilla, you know?

35:35 They don't have sharks in Japan? Is that what you're saying?

35:37 Not anymore.

35:37 No, I'm saying by the time Godzilla, because he eats so much, right? Yeah, he would take... No, he would get rid of them. He would make the sharks extinct with how much this guy eats, you know? And then, so we get our pilot. He goes home. Like we said, he gets knocked out. Everyone's dead except for one character who we will talk about later on. But it's like a Toss something. I don't know. Oh, Toshibani. But anyways, I'll just call him the mechanic. He pretty much just lays it out. Like, you know, pretty much, you're a coward.

36:07 Why didn't you shoot? Like, all these men are dead because of you. So all the onus now has been put Not only from the war, but then this little incident here with Godzilla onto the pilot. So the pilot goes home.

36:19 Why?

36:19 Just to get even more.

36:20 No Medal of Honor.

36:21 No Medal of Honor on that guy's chest going home.

36:24 No.

36:24 He goes home to get even more shit. Because not only is his house gone, not only is his parents dead, he also has a neighbor being like, you're a fucking coward, you loser. All these people would be alive if it wasn't for you, which I think she kind of lessens later on. So pretty much the first 15, 20 minutes, this is our pilot being told constantly... yeah, you, you should have died, you, you know, you should, you should have given your life, because it would help when really it couldn't have, but yeah, again, and I think it's also, like, I don't think it's, like, they were going to be alive, but I think it's kind of, like, a karma thing, where he didn't save those people, so something gets taken

36:57 from him, and I feel like he almost feels that in a way, where it's, like, the universe telling him, like, maybe if you did, like, do something and help out as a pilot. Maybe your parents would be alive, but yeah, we got wreckage and we, you'd meet his care, his neighbor, Simico. I'm not sure, but they also established that she unfortunately loses her children. So that was pretty fucking heavy. I thought she was just like alone, but now she's alone.

37:20 And yeah. Oh God. Someone go.

37:22 I got it. I, I actually really liked that scene. It was really heavy. I feel like there was some hope that he was going to go home at least, get like some answers to where his family is. Like, yeah, they got displaced over here, but just straight up. No, they're, they're completely gone. Um, no, yeah, no, no bits of them left as well as her family. And like probably 90% of the people that were living in that neighborhood. But, uh, I really liked the dialogue actually from that neighbor character because I felt like it just really shined a light on what the mindset was for like the Japanese people around that, that time of like, like, yeah, like it really was expected with like no, if and or buts

38:04 like if you're a kamikaze pilot like you your life is going to to fight for japan and like like defeat these enemies and that really just was like the national mindset across the board so like this type of character would have been like worse than scum just like the fact that because like and like it's even highlighted with her saying like my my family could have survived or your family could have survived if you actually did your fucking job and again, like it's very skewed, especially from our point of view. It's like clearly the one guy wouldn't have ended the war, especially, I mean, we just watched Oppenheimer, man. Like, like we know what was going on there. So I, I feel like that was just a really, really well done shot. And especially just

38:46 sticking with her character where she kind of evolves and grows to later on in this story. Like the story doesn't take place over a week. Like it is a few years. So I do like seeing that growth and, they are kind of able to, yeah, just, I mean, for her, forgive him and move on from it. But it doesn't just take like one event. It is, it does take years as well as just kind of, I don't know, maybe seeing him grow from her perspective. So I really, really liked just that sequence, probably for like the gut-wrenching like reveal of just his entire family's gone.

39:19 His home is gone. And he still just feels like this emptiness in him because he has this weight of being like a deserter.

39:27 Well, I think it takes for him to grow, but also for the country to grow because they mentioned near the end, like, okay, even that mechanic at the beginning mentioned about the war almost being over, but then it feels like more that they establish, hey, a bunch of people died that really didn't need to. And even like you're talking about in Oppenheimer, that becomes a big point of we dropped the bomb, but then it's like, well, the war is almost over, so do we actually need to drop that bomb? That almost made it worse, finding out that, oh, we were already going to win the war, and now we've killed 30, 80, 100... Yeah, well, yeah, Godzilla, fucking... Yeah, fucking.

40:01 Oppie, Robert, man, he really fucked up here. Imagine that. Einstein's just like, you don't know what you've created. But in this same movie, same thing, they get that mindset of, which I was very surprised. I know people might be like, they're talking about the 40s, but when they're talking about how Japan controls messaging and they control what you see and everything, I was like, I'm very surprised they got this movie made because I feel like some places in that country will not let that happen. And I think it's probably because they're talking about the 40s. So they're like, oh, we fixed it all.

40:36 I mean, I don't really know exactly how it is now, but I don't think Japan is necessarily like that today's age. I think that's other surrounding nations.

40:46 I think Japan's pretty good.

40:47 And then even at least for this story, then it shows that around that time, is when people are starting to realize, okay, there was a lot of mistakes done in that war.

40:59 So not only him growing, but also like, okay, he was put in a situation that now we kind of understand his perspective a little bit more, you know, so.

41:09 And like, that's also spoken about even with, I forget the character's name, but he's like the general guy that was kind of leading like the war room meetings for like that final battle. And just like, even for him to come out and just say like, you guys don't have to do this. This isn't an order. This is a civilian-ran thing. I think that also just highlights that growth of what, especially for him being a higher military person, he would have been the one that would have had to enforce these, okay, now go to your deaths for this one cause sort of mindset. But it's very much different of a message that he's trying to relay there.

41:46 And you see it again, too, with just how the unveiling of him, the pilot being a kamikaze pilot, more people become privy to that information. And he's kind of more forthright with telling people that. And especially even the other guys of his little like bomb disarming squad, they found out and they really didn't seem to care because the war was over and they were just moving on with their lives. And I mean, they didn't want him to die at the end.

42:12 Yeah.

42:14 And those characters, what happens is, well, I guess there's two things that happen. He gets a job. He gets a job, I guess, because he, Ran very boldly, meets this woman in a market, just hands him a baby, and then she runs. We don't even know why she was running, so we never get that answer, which is fine.

42:28 I don't need an answer. Well, she was stealing, right? Did she steal?

42:31 Thief.

42:32 Oh, I totally missed the thief. They didn't give me subtitles on that part. They didn't know. They just expected me to know Japanese. I was like, fuck, I didn't know. Every 20 minutes, they turn the subtitles off. I'm like, oh, okay. So I missed the thief line. There you go. I missed the thief line. So yeah, she stole something, hands him a baby. He sits there in the market kind of all day. They link up and they create this bond, like non-romance romance in a way, like romance without the unspoken thing, that sort of deal.

43:01 Platonic relationship.

43:02 Is that what that is?

43:05 No, that's not what that is. Platonic, yeah. Platonic means they wouldn't want to fuck each other. Clearly they do. They just are waiting for one person to make the move.

43:13 No romantic or sexual features. No, there wasn't any romantic or sexual.

43:16 There was romantic.

43:17 Semi-clotonic relationship.

43:18 I don't know. He literally talked about how he wanted to kiss her, make her a wife. I think there's romance there, I'd say. And that's what I like about it, that for years they're just together. And I love that it's just kind of... I also feel that because he let those people die, that's why he feels like he has to take care of this woman and this baby.

43:36 But it just kind of feels like with... what Kirk can talk about how there's barely no one left in that village. It's almost like you're just together by default in a sense. Like, well, maybe it's better if two of us are together than we're on our own, at least even though she doesn't start working until a few years.

43:49 So he's just doing everything, but he also gets a good gig. He's just going around blowing up mines and stuff. But no, I really enjoyed the relationship between those two. I love that. They didn't really like make it overly romantic. It was always a like, will they, won't they until the very, very end. Because I think at the very beginning, I was like, oh, which way are they? And I go, but once they start talking about, oh, why don't, why wouldn't you want to make her your wife? And he's like, oh, I just want to make her my wife. Like that sort of deal. So I liked that there was a lot of subtext or subtleties in the beginning. And no, I really enjoyed that. I think they had good chemistry.

44:19 I think she was like, for me, like the weakest link as far as acting wise. There's a couple scenes that was, I don't know. I feel like she was just bringing, she was going to a 10 when she didn't need to go to a 10. There were certain times where she was just yelling at him. I was like, okay, I don't know. I don't know if this is needed right here, but that's a, it's just a minor complaint, but no, I really liked their dynamic with the child.

44:39 Everything sucked when they lost. When she got back, that's why I saw him like, Oh, I was like, when they got that nose, like, okay, we're, we're good to go. But I don't know. There was a, that hit home at the end when he finally sees her and she asked the wars over. It was all, all, all gravy for me. Like very, very well done. Uh, very, and it's only two hours, but it feels like it's earned the ending scene. You know, it doesn't feel like an eye roll. Like, okay. These two are together now. All right.

45:03 Yeah.

45:04 No, it very much felt earned because of all those years that we kind of got to see them spend together. And I was really shocked, actually, when she popped up at the end. That's what I was talking about earlier, where I didn't see that end scene initially. So when I was rewatching it and got her there, it completely blew my mind. Because even for our protagonist, that's a big reason why he was willing to just kamikaze for the Godzilla final. It's a full circle moment. He's able to finally do it. But like properly end this war as opposed to just being like another stat in a losing war anyways. He knew that the little girl was going to be cared for. The female side character that we saw them together. She's gone now so there's not

45:55 like that that he's going home to. And then it was a nice reveal with the parachute and then at the end of the movie, like I was just shocked and the way that he just emotionally like broke down there. I thought that was a really, really impactful scene. It was a nice reveal for sure. But getting back to like, they're just meeting together. I really, really liked how it went.

46:16 I liked how we didn't spend too much time of like going through all the logistics of like, Oh, how are we going to make this work? Staying together. Like we just kind of fast forwarded through a lot of that stuff. And I don't think I was needing it at all. I really liked the, It was semi-comical how they wound up there. It's like, why were you standing out there all day? I was waiting for you to leave the market. You just stood there for hours for no reason. And then she kind of convinced him to let them stay for just get cleaned up. And then they just are instantly sleeping on the couch. That was really cute and wholesome. So I really liked how all that went. And it also, for our protagonist character, what

46:54 was his, like, what would have been his goal, like, up until that point? It's not like he had something to really fight for. He lost all of his family. Like, I liked how this was something that kind of had him, like, just sticking to it and, like, living, you know, like, something to actually live for. Like, he's providing for the little girl, providing for this woman, and kind of starting a path to right some of his past wrongs. And it was a nice, I don't know, it was just a nice meetup for them, and I definitely felt the stakes were at play for our characters here. Even though Godzilla could just stomp this little town at any point, it really felt like we... Even if it was a losing battle, this is a battle worth fighting for versus

47:35 what the war was, right? So I really, really liked how that was handled. I mean, that's the human story that we... The main human story, I think, throughout this movie. There's a lot of other characters that have their own motivations to fight for, but that was definitely the most convincing one.

47:51 Yeah, I think that the way they introduced their relationship at the beginning, it was very innocent. It was very fun. So I was able to really get on board with that. And when you go into the further emotional steps where you learn about this child not even being this woman's biological child, this woman just took the child in because another woman died in the air raids and said, like, please take care of her. And he's like, oh, why would you take the child if you can't even take care of a child? And they're like, well, the child would have died and no one took it, so. I just think that there's this moment here where, yeah, lots of storylines are starting to unfold. And like you said, Kirkland,

48:26 just this very simple event just really turned it around for him because he was definitely ready to just... I don't know, he wouldn't have killed himself because obviously he couldn't go through being a kamikaze pilot, but he was so depressed and he's just trying to live with himself and this failure. And yeah, that's brutal. But hey, he gets this job and he's got like the first... walled building in this little village again like he's a baller he's pimping out yeah he's got all the good food and everything.

48:55 This coward has a whole house around him the whole village is thinking.

48:59 All of his neighbors are just like that's what.

49:01 There's a thought right fuck this guy he went to the war he didn't do his job he comes back he has a house he has a woman now yeah government job oh man but that's what i love about it is we're thinking about because we've seen We have and we will see dozens and dozens of movies just the way that these three and the other characters. do from his job get connected, of course. But at least the home life, you have the woman who has the baby, who found the baby. Then you have the woman who lost the baby. And then you have him who's kind of like in the middle. And they all have a bond and get together to take care of this child.

49:32 Because the child obviously has nothing to do with the war. And it has... It's just that's been... put on upon them right they've literally been there it's like aged one half two at this point maybe I'd say more I guess probably even younger than one when we first meet her and that's where it's like they kind of just all even the person the cat like the neighbor remember just called him a coward when he got back so she really has no reason but the first night because and that's what's so sad she like breastfeeds a child because she lost her child she gives them rice like she doesn't have to this is a guy that she just like reamed out a couple hours ago right or the day before and but the goodness in her heart.

50:07 So that's what I love. Like these three characters are conjoined. It's like three men and a baby, but like the worst possible war Godzilla, you know, but that's what I love. It's a unique dynamic. And that's why I liked where they leaned into the romance stuff more near the end of like, they, you know, they're both kind of waiting to see who would make a move first or if they should make a move. Right. At one point I thought she was going to move out. Cause when she got the job, I think he even thought that too, cause she was dressed up and had some stuff packed.

50:33 So then he looked really worried. So, I like that the first half was just, okay, let's just get back on our feet. And then after they had been together for like two, three years, it was like, okay, you know, what's going to happen here? And then when he's maybe starting to think about doing something, she gets fucking pulled away in like some air tornado or something, you know, so.

50:49 Maybe think of the boys that, uh, that early scene just got taken out.

50:54 And like, I appreciate it, but I was also like, why didn't you just like tackle him? Like, why did you just push him sore and just like push him? I take, take it all, you know, but you know, showed, showed she was, and again, great moment too, where in that scenario, I'm sure he's hoping that he should be the one that dies. Right. Early on in those years, he's like, Oh, don't, don't let the child call me dad.

51:14 You know, you're not my wife. Like, it's weird he's taking care of them and doing all the noble things but he doesn't want any of the credit for it probably because the guilt he's had for the other stuff but again yeah but again at that point when you think she's dead it's like the wrong person died here it should have been me and now he's stuck again not stuck as a child but just in a way where everyone around him keeps dying and he keeps putting these scenarios whether it's his choice or not so there's so much interesting stuff going on throughout the movie that's not even Godzilla.

51:44 Stuff you know No, yeah, 100%. Oh, sorry, Taylor.

51:47 I was just going to say, what is it that Peter Parker, Toby's Peter Parker says? It's like, am I not supposed to have what I want? Isn't that Spider-Man 2?

51:54 Yeah, yeah, Spider-Man 2.

51:55 That's the pilot.

51:57 He's hitting the window. I'm not supposed to have the things that I want, the things that I need. And then the neighbor came in with some rice and said, eat this, bitch, and threw it in. But let's take our second ad break, and we'll be right back. And we're back.

52:14 I was just going to mention that middle ground that all of our characters kind of met upon, which was providing for the little girl. It just really speaks to that human trait, I think, to just want to care for something, even if you aren't related to it. Because even the protagonist character, he was super just shit-talking the girl.

52:37 She's not even your own, and it's already so hard to survive in this environment right now, and you're taking on this... like just infant that's going to need all the attention, all the care just to survive in like ideal conditions, let alone this just city. That's it's, it's almost like a last of us situation. Like it's just, everyone's barefoot in like the rubble and it's, it just is so terrible. But at the end of the day, like it kind of makes a bit of a community, although it is just kind of those three characters helping each other out. Like, I mean, you said it Travis, like probably an hour earlier, like that lady was just shit talking or maybe it was the day before. our protagonist of just how he like he doesn't even deserve

53:15 to be there or be living because it was his job to to stop all of this and um just like that thing tying everyone together um throughout the entire movie is just i don't know it was really special and like yeah just something that like there's probably infants and stuff in peril in these like later 2014 godzilla movies but i don't like they just they were just told in such a very masterful way in this movie and really had me just emotionally invested with our human characters here.

53:46 And then we bumped back. I know we talked a little bit all over, but at least we should go back to the Godzilla part. They do the mind thing. I do like that one moment where the guy's shooting, and he's like, oh, one of the worker guys, and he misses a bunch. And he's like, oh, only if the war lasted a little longer. I could have like got my practice up and our main characters fucking kind of loses it on them. Don't say that. Yeah, but I like that it's like they take that as like, okay, we're not going to talk about it. It's not like throughout the rest of the movie they have, you know, tension and they don't get along. It's like, okay, yeah, I get it. You went through war and I didn't.

54:22 And then so, you know, they're making money. Like we said, he builds up his place. It's been a few years. But then one day, lo and behold, they're on this boat and boom, the fucking fish come up and, you know, okay, this can't be good. And this time he says, oh, there's so much more than last time. And this is why I push back on the... I know they're different characters, but the guy's not shooting at the beginning because we have the captain of the boat, right? Or the guy, he's kind of a bit more... I guess he was a captain. He has this whole idea that they're going to kill Godzilla, take it down. I can't remember what the plan was, but they're going to do something. And then the second he sees it come up and grab

54:58 the boat, he's like, okay, we're just going to run. So that's why my pitch is like, if that guy got on the cannon... and shot the airplane gun, those guys could have been like, okay, fuck it, actually, let's not do this. Because I feel like, in your mind, you think it's going to work until you see it, and you're like, okay, it doesn't work. Let's not do it.

55:15 And that's what happened here, because they're all for it. We got a plan. He's like, I don't care. I'll die. Like, I'll die defending this ship. And they're like, oh, no, we're going. And they hit the gas, and they're out of there until Godzilla's just, like, creeping up and stuff like that, you know.

55:28 Yeah, my counter to that point is that the other guys were actually military guys. I'm not saying they're soldiers, but they're at least in the military where these other ones are just civilians.

55:37 They saw what Godzilla was. This captain didn't know what. It could have been a big shark. He didn't know.

55:42 Yeah, 100%. But yeah, then you get this shot, and my God, those eyes. What a terrifying maw just swimming after you.

55:52 And I love the design that he's like a shell barnacle. He looks like oysters when they have stuff he looks like fucking bill david jones david jones or william turner what's his dad's name yeah four fours but like that's what they have growing off them and everything and i really like that about godzilla where some of it is his body but some of it's just like weird growth that has now just like attached to it so but yeah that stuff's all good like i said there's some when you watch it back there's some water effects that when you look at the top of the set when he stands up which sometimes i was also like I didn't understand the standing physics because they made it seem like the water was like a lot deeper.

56:33 Well, he'd be floating, I think, in the water because.

56:36 They showed that display.

56:40 Bullshit. He naturally floats, right? Bullshit. So they showed that display of when he's floating. Yeah, but he floats in a way where he doesn't move at all. He just looks like a statue in the water.

56:47 Oh, yeah.

56:49 Not oh, yeah. No, it's like every time, like, oh, we got to sink him. But he's literally, like, when he charges up, you would have to... Brace yourself. Yeah, there's nothing to.

56:59 Have you seen how big his feet are, though? I mean, those are flotation devices themselves.

57:03 Yeah, or they would just flip him.

57:04 His legs are huge.

57:05 So he's fucking head first in the water, you know? So that stuff didn't... But that was not the effects I was worried about. Like I said, watch it back in the future. You'll see there's water effects on his head. But for the most part, that is maybe the scariest one. Because just think about you're on this boat, and design-wise, though, stuff around it. Like Kirkland said, there's some other boat stuff, too, later on. And even in the middle of the chase, there's some shots, but... Again, that was all fine. You can look past it. Just super scary. Like, just like, what were you doing? Obviously, they create a plan. They blow up its face. Doesn't work because it regenerates. But yeah, that was just a great set piece. I think that's

57:37 probably my favorite set piece. It's either that or the beginning. Because there's some great stuff near the end. But that, because it's just this, somehow you're in the open water in the sea, but it's still a claustrophobic moment. Because Godzilla is literally 10 inches from you, just swimming, and you're just hoping for the best here. And, you know.

57:55 Yeah, that whole scene was so fucking terrifying. It was fantastically terrifying. And I liked how it unfolds where the scientist who's there, and he was basically like, I think, a sea ballistics weapons specialist throughout the war. And he kind of unveils this plan, not his plan, but the government's plan. Like, hey, it's like a need-to-know basis here, but we're really out here to hunt and delay Godzilla.

58:20 We're not out here necessarily to be stripping all the mines out of the ocean because the government knew Godzilla was on its way to Japan and so they were out here to use the mines as their weapons just to delay Godzilla so that the released warships that were being surrendered back to Japan to fight Godzilla could arrive here in time because he had many ships captured in the war and many ships that were going to be sent off to the UN were being relinquished back to Japan.

58:48 And again, this is how the States was technically helping because the States didn't want to I guess deploy military out to help Japan because it would have increased tensions with the Soviet Union and that war going on. So the states were pretty much useless except for supplying warships and every warship they were giving to Japan just getting fucking murked so it was i i got really excited when that after the sequence of godzilla's face like blowing up and he regenerated and then you see this warship come in that was i was exciting and the It was great, and Godzilla jumps on the side of the warship, and as he's on the side of the warship, the guns on the deck turn, and they're fucking firing on

59:29 him still. It's just all out chaos. Then he falls back into the water, and then the beam, the blue beam is glowing under the water and just goes up. I'm not sure if it was to scale like this in the older Godzilla movies, but at least in this go-around, it was a full-on nuclear blast. And it just was incredible seeing how much damage his beam shot really, really did.

59:56 Much more powerful than the newer movies' Godzilla's beam.

1:00:00 This beam's like a one-hit kill.

1:00:01 Oh, yeah.

1:00:02 Like, there's anything that's not taken out. Mm-hmm.

1:00:08 Yeah.

1:00:08 And then.

1:00:09 Ha ha ha ha! That happens, and then we kind of have some stuff, and that's where we're skipping over, but there's tons of moments and scenes where it's our main character. He has some dreams as well, but it's a lot of him going through the trauma and stuff, which we've talked about, but there's a lot of that in the middle, which is all good stuff, well-acted. He finally admits some of the things that's going on, and then, yeah, the first time they realize, okay, he's coming to Japan, and we talked about it a little bit, but that's where we do lose the female protagonist for a little bit because they very... coincidental or luckily me like he he's with the child the alarm goes off I do like that the warning is just like there's a big

1:00:50 monster coming like there's no like just imagine like you think it's another new girl.

1:00:54 Bomb we're podcasting here and all of a sudden we just get the emergency alert on our phones there's a giant monster coming.

1:00:59 Yeah the amber alert is giant monster coming to Kelowna run flee it's just like cause like other than our main characters like the five six of them cause obviously he shares this with you know his potential love interest and stuff the rest of Japan do not know about this thing. So they just get alert that there's a giant dinosaur monster coming. Look out. And then when they go to, he's there destroying stuff. News crews, idiot. Like I go there. I actually don't get it. Yeah.

1:01:25 That's so funny.

1:01:26 He's coming.

1:01:27 He's coming closer.

1:01:32 You can feel the building collapsing beneath us. They deserve what they got at that point. They should have got their one shot and then ran. That's all they needed.

1:01:40 They're committed.

1:01:41 They're committed.

1:01:42 Like, I don't even think one shot, but, like, at least if you go up there, get it and then go. But, like, hopefully that new station got you number one.

1:01:48 They're going for best Oscar.

1:01:50 Yeah.

1:01:50 You didn't even look at them either. Like, he didn't even know that he murked them.

1:01:53 No.

1:01:53 He just powered right through the building.

1:01:55 He's like the fucking camera guy in Nope. Like, okay, man. Like, just, you shouldn't have been here.

1:01:59 He's committed for that golden shot. Something that I loved about that city scene, though, is, like, for me, I feel like these are the most iconic Godzilla scenes. Like, thinking back of him just tearing... down a giant city and like really just decimating everything when he's when he's just stomping through the city this is where you really get to see like that full scale of size that he's at because he's he's underwater sorry he's out of water he's got his arms i chuckle.

1:02:24 They look so painful he looks like you were just oh yeah they're just so stuck you.

1:02:28 Know he can't scratch his his back or his ass for for that matter with those little.

1:02:32 That's what he's actually doing he's not even destroying japan he's just itching his body so itchy these particles growing all over me someone get this off no another blast.

1:02:42 I chuckled so much to myself when he first was like just standing there because i was just picturing the new godzilla trailer and just this version just starting to sprint through the city but luckily it didn't happen i liked his his more rigid movements but uh yeah that was just that was great especially like this is where we have more of that theme hidden and it's just doom and terror here just taking out absolutely everyone and no one's safe. Even if there's tanks or whatnot, like you can't do absolutely anything to this, to this thing. It's, it's really just up to Godzilla to, to leave the city for this, uh, this doom and destruction, destruction to end. And, uh, love seeing the cannon go off.

1:03:16 Those tanks just started opening fire, popping off. And yeah, it didn't do any good.

1:03:20 Cause yeah, the, the scene where CGI tanks, those are the ones that I pulled up. It was like, This looked like a cut scene out of a fucking armor course.

1:03:27 Yeah.

1:03:28 Now, this was really, really cool because we already saw the beam get used while he was underwater, but to see him now above ground, yeah, out of water, you could see the spikes shooting up the tail going up his back as they were glowing blue. That was so cool. Really enjoyed that.

1:03:44 Mm-hmm.

1:03:45 That's great. And then he's just like, why does he leave again? Am I forgetting why he leaves? He's just pimped off and he's deciding to come back another time?

1:03:51 He scratched. He's like, all right, I feel better now.

1:03:53 I mean, he nuked the whole city. There wasn't much left to really do.

1:03:56 I guess. But that's the whole thing. He's coming back to Japan at the end of the movie, remember?

1:04:01 And what's his motivation for doing that in the first place? He likes destruction?

1:04:06 Let's see.

1:04:07 Don't they argue that he's, like, attracted to the radiation or something from the nukes?

1:04:13 Yeah, that's what I... Well, at least that's what I would think from the past.

1:04:15 Feed on their nuclear power plants.

1:04:16 That's what they say. Because I felt like that was the only thing I felt was odd, that he came there, destroyed Notarius at another place, but, like, why didn't he just, like, keep going? Like, he got to a certain part of the city, and it was, like, a video game where, like, he couldn't get past the loading walls. Like, okay, I'm going to turn back, and, like, I'll come back.

1:04:31 It would be higher level.

1:04:32 And I get it because they had to do the whole, yeah, exactly. You had to do the whole, everyone's going to get together, make the plan. So I understand that. It just felt a little off there, but not a big thing. But no, I thought all the destruction was good there. I liked it because, again, I hadn't seen, I was like, I hadn't seen any trailers. I just saw a few images and heard the hype. So I wasn't sure, too, are we going to for sure go to the city? Because so far, most of it had been based on an island in the water. So I wasn't sure in this movie, are we even going to go there? So when he showed up, it was like a, like of course was like oh fuck like i guess he's here now there's not much you can do and and then yeah because

1:05:06 he has a child here that's where i was trying to go he has the the alert goes off and then he just runs into the city of japan to find the woman he lives with and it's like i guess like yeah not only just like in a regular city japan this is mass hysteria people are running it's terror and he just happened like she's on the ground you gotta go you gotta go and again like I did appreciate because I have a thought when I was running away from Godzilla. I'm like, why don't you just like take a couple steps back and like then go behind.

1:05:34 But I did like when they zoomed in on his his steps and they're like and like all the concrete was shoot up and stuff. So like you could do that, but it'd be very risky. But you just got to like wait for that first crack. You just gotta climb then book the other way. That's what I would do. I would hope.

1:05:47 I had the same thought.

1:05:48 Yeah.

1:05:48 I would hope a crack would take me out. I'm like, I'll climb the steps. As soon as he plants, I'll be right in front of that foot and then run back. But then I'd just get crushed by a boulder.

1:05:56 Yeah. Or he would just shit and you would be like, oh no, it's over. I was expecting the razor.

1:06:01 Plus the giant tail that's probably just fucking scraping on the ground.

1:06:03 Well, you just gotta get past his feet and then take a right or left, whichever side you're on. You don't wanna go full. You don't wanna go full behind him because you're right at the tail. But that's what I was... I was not gonna run... In front of him. I would wait. I would try to time it out. I'm like, same thing. But yeah, he does find her.

1:06:18 But yeah, she gets blown away by just air and destruction and everything.

1:06:24 Would you sit on the train when the train stops and you look out the window and you have clearly probably like five minutes before Godzilla reaches you?

1:06:31 I don't even know, man. I think those mags, when they show the earth exploding, they're like, what would you do? It's like, die.

1:06:38 A hundred million mile tall tsunami wave. It's like, what would you do? I don't know.

1:06:44 I don't know. Text my mom? See on the other side? There's nothing to do when you're in the train. And it's just so funny that we had Mission Impossible this year. Almost... Not the same train sequence, but just.

1:07:00 Same scene Godzilla was in there.

1:07:01 Yeah, I would love it if they called... Imagine that if a Godzilla movie ended, like, who do we need to get? And it just ended with the M.I. thing, like... And it's like, oh, Mission Impossible. Like, fuck, that'd be hype. But, no, it just, like, it ended the same way, right, where Tom was hanging at the end, and there was, like, he was dangling. It's the same thing for her, but luckily it was in the water. I would have also just stayed in the fucking water. Now, granted, if you came back that way, you're fucked, but... he wasn't around that area. So I would just drop and then just stay there. Stay, stay, hold onto a side and just stay swimming in there.

1:07:33 Call of Duty style. Just, just hope for a good close in the water.

1:07:38 Yeah. That train, that train sequence was terrifying. Cause like, that's one of the worst places to be, especially when Godzilla was just around at one point, he just like zeros in on it. There's nothing to do. Fucking Green Lantern. And great shot when it's her and it's like the reflection of Godzilla on the window. That was a great shot.

1:07:58 Like I said, unless you have water, I think I would just try to sit there. What would you do? If there was no water, would you just try to hold on and hope?

1:08:07 If he's coming to the train, I'm boarding the train. I'm getting off the train at least.

1:08:12 There wasn't a stop though. You're just going to jump right in.

1:08:14 The train stopped.

1:08:15 Did it? Oh, yeah. Or did it stop because Godzilla stopped it? Well, no.

1:08:19 It was moving, and then he flew that, like, other train. Like, he threw the train, and it landed in front.

1:08:26 It goes to the opposite. It's like, ah!

1:08:28 So that's tough because you asked me in that second, if I just saw a monster throw a train into my train, would I have the wherewithal to get up and get out? I don't know because I think I would still be processing.

1:08:38 I'm hitting the bell at least. Next stop, please.

1:08:42 I still think at the point we get in the Amber Alert saying there's a giant dinosaur, I would still be processing what's happening. But yes, if I had enough time, you'd want to get out. But you don't know. What if the trains are like, like the doors are locked, right? This is an R train.

1:08:55 This is 1940.

1:08:56 So what if it's like, Fucking something happened in control and you're just, you're. locked in there but yeah i would try to i would try to get out if i didn't know there was water if i knew there was water i guess you just have to hope that he doesn't take it and bite it but all you gotta do is you just gotta hope that he picks you up and you just pencil dive it and.

1:09:12 You just you go down you don't want to be in that initial bite if you see him coming down the boat one of the train carts you got to get to the next adjacent cart because.

1:09:19 Or you got to hope that when he bites it a window breaks and you just got like wasn't like dive.

1:09:23 Wasn't she in that middle cart like she was in like the side one because she was oh the side one yeah yeah yeah i feel like if i have time i would like to think i just run but also like i feel like i would just be paralyzed like seeing this.

1:09:37 Thing come at me Just hoping for a quick death.

1:09:39 It's happened. It's finally happening.

1:09:41 My God.

1:09:42 There's nothing else we can do.

1:09:44 Yeah. But yeah. So yeah. She gets torn up. She's gone. And then they start making this plan. Okay. They're going to tie up Godzilla with these pressure balloons or whatever. Something. I can't remember what the technical term was. Something gas.

1:09:58 It was like a gas.

1:09:59 Something that I was like, this is the part where, with it being in 1940, where I'm like, I don't know if he could pull all this off, but granted, okay, fair enough. You know, like the fucking nuclear bomb was made. So maybe they could, I think it was more just at the short time. Cause they do this in like a day, a day or two where like, we got the perfect plan to take out Godzilla. I was like, Oh really? I guess I'm just used to movies where like from the beginning, it's like, we've been working on this for months or years. And like this guy day one, I was like, we're just going to sink them and the pressure will kill them and we're done. And it's like, Oh shit. And obviously it didn't work out, but I

1:10:29 just like the fact that I kind of came there, but they didn't have a plan B, but yeah, that was their plan. They were going to go and then go take him down and see the pressure. And if that didn't work, they were going to... What were they going to bring him up? What were they going to do to him again?

1:10:42 They were just going to make him rise because they had the big flotation devices. So as he rises, the pressure would fuck him up again.

1:10:47 Right. And hope that that works. And neither one worked, really. They did damage, but they didn't work. Oh, go ahead.

1:10:55 I was just going to say, I like the. Like, what the plan actually was. It was more than just, okay, we're going to get this bomb inside of him, up his butt, and he's just going to explode. Like, it actually was pretty creative, and they had a lot of big science-y terms on why it would work, and I don't know. It was just a different plan than maybe I was expecting or had seen in the past, so I did like that, and I also liked how not everyone was just like, okay, we've got the golden plan.

1:11:21 This is going to work. Like, they actually were kind of poking holes in it, and, like, they're all terrified. They've already... barely survived like world war ii and now they're going back out there to fight like just fucking godzilla like this is worst case scenario you're out of the frying pan right into the fire the fiery water for that matter like you were just fucked and um i i like that even the doctor uh was like wow we we don't know for sure this will happen and really like it it really was up to like our protagonists to take this thing down because no one like made which made it so that he was going to be the plan B. He just felt like this was what he had to do.

1:11:59 Um, well, he was the plan C technically, right?

1:12:02 Yeah, no, yeah, you're right. So plan C, the, that probably not everybody even knew about. It was just, this was something that he really wanted to do. And they, yeah, it, cause it wasn't even in the plan. He actually had to go out and find the mechanic.

1:12:14 Yeah.

1:12:15 Yeah.

1:12:15 He was just supposed to be up there and I guess they had the bombs for just in case, but, And, yeah, that was the other point that I didn't mention at full circle is that when they started working on this plan, it's all going great until the guy that's going to help them with this plane and get it ready is the guy from the island that survived with them that called him a coward and pretty much, you know, motherfucker, you're going to rot in hell. Like, whatever the equivalent is, just saying you let all these men down and you killed them all. And we also didn't talk about, too, that this character, the pilot, has kept all their photos intact.

1:12:45 from them so he's like still constantly reminding himself which i would just laugh the fans like i'd love to get that photo back but he our mind care our main character and i think that's where they start to bond eventually is the mechanic finds or sees that wall and sees that they have all the photos and he realizes because even at the when they first meet it's not a instant forgiver time he's still bitter about it he's still like he like he beats him up a little like he it's not like other people that have been all the war like We kind of get it now.

1:13:12 This guy at this point is like, no, still fuck you. You don't deserve to live. You let us all die. You didn't do your job. But near the end, they start to, you know, it gives them the ejection seat. And I do like that full circle moment where he could have not like he could have been a dick, but he was trying to almost like break the cycle of I'm not going to just because this guy in his mind led to the death of his men. He's not also going to leave like. let his actions lead to the death of a man. Even if he doesn't like that man, he will go and go out of his way to save him. So I really liked that mini arc that he had.

1:13:42 I was under the impression that he came around and found the pilot because the pilot put out these letters saying, like, you were responsible for the death of the men on the island or something like that. Like, he just made up some bullshit, and then he said, like, when the mechanic came and confronted him, he was kicking the shit out of him. The pilot's like, I had to just make this up just to get you here because I needed to talk to you. I think that's what he did, just...

1:14:03 But I can't remember fully. But I think that's how he explained it.

1:14:06 Make up what part, sorry?

1:14:07 Well, because he wrote some letters out from what I remember to the mechanic. Who's he?

1:14:11 The pilot. The pilot wrote these letters out.

1:14:13 To the mechanic. And in the letters, it was basically stating that the mechanic was at fault and he fucked up and everything. But then when the mechanic showed up at the pilot's place, kicked the shit out of him, the pilot's like, oh, I just did this just to get you here. That's why the mechanic kind of calmed down and came to the senses.

1:14:30 Can you imagine getting a letter from the guy that fucking murdered all your friends?

1:14:35 It's your little pussy.

1:14:36 It's all your fault. It's my address.

1:14:42 Yeah, they were the cheater. Like, well, I only cheated because you made me, you know, I wouldn't cheat if you acted like this, you know? So yeah, I'm just still saying that he was not on board with that character at the beginning. He was ready. He was, but if like, obviously Japan, a bunch of just got destroyed. Which, again, in this, obviously, it's fiction. I love, not love, but, you know what I mean? Like, it starts with our main character getting back to Japan is, like, annihilated. And now it's finally building up. People are starting to build, like, that area up again that was destroyed. And then already they do that shot of just a bunch of just wreckage.

1:15:15 And it's, like, already three to four years later, it's all being taken down again. But this time, at least, it's, like, a, you know, one being that they can focus their energy on. We can take this down. So this guy, the mechanic, was always going to help. But still, he was... not too pleased that of course it was this fucking guy but again he didn't have to fix that or do that ejector seat like he went his way do that and like when he was survived he was like emotional about because again i just think that he he didn't want that cycle to continue he didn't want to like just kill out of revenge or vengeance or whatnot so i appreciate it was for a character that really has i don't know what 15 20 minutes of screen time

1:15:48 like he even got a mini arc you know and that's really an arc that like meant something you know so that's very impressive.

1:15:54 No, for sure, because, I mean, there's so many factors that have happened between the end of the movie and, like, that opening sequence when he just hates our pilot, just really thinks that he should have been the one to die there. But, like, he's had years of growth, along with the entire country of Japan throughout the movie, but also...

1:16:16 just like seeing Godzilla maybe more now, it's like, okay, maybe there isn't anything he could have done. He just fucking destroyed all these destroyer ships, all of these military individuals, also just all of Tokyo. So, fuck, I feel like maybe he's realizing that the 20 mil gun that he was highlighting.

1:16:37 It can cut through anything.

1:16:40 I would have loved that first day. He would have been like, man, if you would just shut up, this whole thing would have been over. You were going to kill them on that day, you bastard. The 20-mil gun. Yeah, yeah. It takes up anything. He was a baby back then. Look at him now. Look at the size of him now.

1:16:54 I just love it. He was just convinced that they could have killed him that day.

1:16:59 I was like, oh, yeah. And then also just like when they're doing that final plan and like they've already had their meeting for it and they're actually starting the plan. I can't remember if it's the doctor character or someone else, but they're really just highlighting how even though this is like dire straits, this is the worst possible threat they could be going against. Like everyone just is super unified and like has a goal to come together on. It really just, I think, shows... the the growth of like where those like where the people were at the end of the war versus like they've had some time and like some hope built back in as opposed to just we just got our asses handed to us and everyone

1:17:38 like just people that are innocents are are murdered from just the war so um i really really liked just where they're at at the end and morale being surprisingly high going into that, that final clash, even though their plan A and B went horribly wrong right away. Uh, thank God they had, uh, you know, the pilot for plan C. It was a nice cinematic, epic, uh, final clash.

1:18:03 And I think the other thing that happened too, which I really, really enjoyed this scene was the mechanic. When he saw those photos, he also saw the drawing that the little girl did of mom and dad and him. And I love that when we got that drawn, that's when the mom was at that point dead, uh, And it was a super sad scene where, you know, the daughter, which you could tell that the directors had like, they were like, the kid would be fine. And then we just cut the kids crying. Like clearly they were not. Yeah.

1:18:26 I was just like, I don't know. We're like, where's mom? Oh, she's gone. It's fine. It's a little kid.

1:18:34 It's like, it was like, why are you sad? And she looks like so normal.

1:18:37 She's like, she had like a doll. It was like a button. I'd be sad, but I appreciated the scene that, she drew this picture, and this one he's kind of finally accepting that, okay, this is you know my daughter that you know I have raised but it's a sad scene at that point because she doesn't know her mom's dead and she was but we think that and just this drawing like that all that stuff that was hidden that was hidden the heart strings there that was really making me care and then again she's getting left again even though we understand why our main character has to do this that he has to kill Godzilla you just think for this little girl's perspective, like she lost her natural parents. And then the two people that raised, like

1:19:14 she's just bouncing from one place to another. It's like, these people care about her, but still it's like, eventually it's going to fuck with your psyche. So that's why I was cheering at the end with some movies. That's where it just comes down to writing stuff where some movies I might roll my eyes with the wife still being, or the, the mother still being alive. Right. And be like, Oh, of course she didn't die. But there's something here where I was like, okay. And there's clearly more too, but I was like, I'm, I want this happy ending. I want these people to all be... I want him to not be fighting this war. I want her to get proposed to. I want this kid to have a mom and dad and not just to cry on command. But, like,

1:19:46 so I was very... They were hitting the heartstrings very well with the little girl in this movie, so.

1:19:50 Yeah. The mom character there was looking like Harvey Dent. Yeah, and we don't get the full face reveal, but I don't think she's as twisted as Harvey was after that incident. That's a sequel.

1:20:03 She's just.

1:20:04 He's the villain.

1:20:06 We have to get it back.

1:20:07 We have to get Godzilla back.

1:20:08 Noriko. Big bad Noriko. Let's take our last ad break. We'll probably get into the third act here and our ratings, and we'll be right back. And we're back. And I guess I want to talk about now, because it doesn't matter to the very end, but still. So with that character, she's in a hospital. Like I said, I think a really great scene of Asperger's. The war's over. That guy just fucking breaks down. He's at a tough... three or four years and whatnot. But anyways, they're together, they're hugging and then they pan and they show something on her neck moving around like almost as something in her like skin or something. And I'm very curious because for me, I, and you know, Taylor's going, so of course he's not

1:20:48 going to hear any of this, but I don't, what did you take from that Kirkland when that was going on?

1:20:54 So glad that Taylor left because I was just going to say I did not notice that at all on both of my viewings actually.

1:20:59 So that's where, yeah, when they go to her neck, it looks like there's like like, something, like, it's inside her skin, but it looks like it's, like, moving, so I'm not sure if, like, some of this Godzilla debris, like, got in her or something like that, but that's where, for me, I thought it was kind of setting up a sequel, but we'll return to that.

1:21:18 Like, I feel like they already had set up a sequel enough for just showing, like, the water and Godzilla kind of forming back up again or whatever it was, so I don't know.

1:21:26 Like, I get it, but, like, we'll get to this third act, but the way they kill Godzilla is, like, will nothing kill this, this beast thing? Cause he literally turned out like crumble ash. But Taylor, we were talking because Kirkham said he didn't know us at what was your take on what was going on with our neck there? Well, yeah, yeah.

1:21:47 It's, it's really hard to say. I mean, I don't know if there's some old theme or, or aspect from the Godzilla lore where they're, they're, they're, pulling from or sourcing this from. I don't know if this is something new. It just seems like some form of the radiation has played a part here. And maybe that goes hand in hand with them before because when they were in the city after the destruction, the scientists were saying, or the talk show radio folks were saying that they couldn't properly follow Godzilla because the radiation was too high and they were scanning items and it was showing how some things were highly radiated. So maybe there is There is that going on, and maybe that's just what happened with her

1:22:29 and probably a lot of other people. Let me take a quick look and see what other people are saying.

1:22:37 But it was strange because when I saw that and the, what was I going to say?

1:22:43 It says radiation sickness due to Godzilla's heat ray.

1:22:47 You hate to see it.

1:22:48 It says she's messed up.

1:22:49 Because I said, oh, I guess we're getting a sequel. And Taylor right away was like, no, I don't think so. I was like, well, between that, this lady having something, and then Godzilla's head growing at the end, I felt like they will try to do some sort of follow-up and everything. I know your point, Taylor, was like, oh, this guy's won his war. But it's like, well, now he's fighting Godzilla. And maybe even then he doesn't have to be the main character, too.

1:23:10 No, 100%.

1:23:10 You could do a sequel with all new characters. And I mean, if it's the quality of what this is.

1:23:15 Well, except that thing in her neck, though, right? Wouldn't you want to touch upon that?

1:23:18 Well, it's just radiation sickness, it sounds like.

1:23:21 Is it just radiation?

1:23:22 I watched the HBO Chernobyl. I know what happens.

1:23:24 She's going to have.

1:23:26 A horrible death in a couple of years.

1:23:27 I guess so. I was going to say, did they have black things in their skin just moving and stuff like that?

1:23:32 They had horrible things happen to them in that one.

1:23:35 I know the effects, but I mean, like, did they have that where that thing was, like, animated?

1:23:39 I didn't even see it, so I don't know. I completely missed it.

1:23:41 I'll have to find a GIF form of it, yeah.

1:23:44 I feel, though, like, just telling the story of Godzilla again, like, i i wouldn't write off a sequel by any means especially if this is already getting like super low budget too wasn't it it was like 15 mil or something yeah.

1:23:57 Something like that supposedly yeah i don't know yeah uh and then yeah they we kind of talked about it they float them up they bring up didn't work he's about to charge up uh the pilot gets the ship in his mouth bombs them uh like i was saying to kirkland while you're on taylor he Just crumbles, which was very cool. I liked the visuals of it, but I thought, oh, there's no way you can bring this motherfucker back. There's nothing. It has to be Godzilla's son or daughter or something. But no, he does come back.

1:24:24 But yeah, they kill him. Everyone gets a happy ending. Not everybody. I mean, our main characters. I'm sure a lot of people had a really tough go that day in Japan with Godzilla. But yeah, they defeat him. Anything else to mention about the third act?

1:24:41 The whole sequence with them just... basically sacrificing two ships just to get that beam to fire off and have to make it like recharge so they could just go in there. And Godzilla is just like looking around as they do their, their circle around the, the theme kicks in. It was just so, so wild and crazy. Um, and I liked, I liked their, their experiment, I guess you could say, and how it ended up working and just shooting them down. That scene, it was, it made me laugh because when he charged up his beam and he was going to, use it. And he immediately just got shot down. And as soon as like, he stopped, uh, like just descending, he just stopped and his blue light just switched off. Like someone, it was really funny. And

1:25:21 he was just like stagnant there. Um, but then I really enjoyed when the tugboats all came in to help pull Godzilla back up. Just this whole fucking army of tugboats just come into the rescue. That was really cool.

1:25:33 Uh, and the guy tugboats, eh?

1:25:35 I'm a big fan of tugboats. Yeah. I, my grandpa worked tugboats, but, uh, The guy was just, the young kid was just like, I brought the fucking help or whatever. I'm paraphrasing, of course.

1:25:46 And then the old captain. That was pretty old. Yeah, they told him to stay back and he was all disappointed. That was a good moment.

1:25:52 Yeah.

1:25:53 Yeah.

1:25:53 So it just roots you. And just the way they showed that scene of just like 30 tugboats in front of one military ship just pulling. And the weight is still on this one crane on the back of one of these boats, which I feel like is not a fucking chance.

1:26:08 Made in Japan, though, man. The Japanese made? Come on, that thing is lasting forever. Especially if they mention it's like Godzilla weighs like 20,000 tons or something. Like, okay, that's super rated.

1:26:20 Yeah.

1:26:23 Anything else?

1:26:27 I don't think so. I think we hit.

1:26:29 I think that's it.

1:26:30 Yeah.

1:26:30 You got trivia for me or something?

1:26:33 No, not yet. I will retrospect to this movie in half a decade. So, Mr. Batzer, your final thoughts on writing.

1:26:41 Final thoughts on this movie. I think this is, you know, I haven't seen many of them, but I think this is by far the best Godzilla movie ever made. And maybe there's some black and white film that's up there in quality. But I just was really, really surprised by... pretty, pretty much all, all of the, uh, like main pieces of this film. I thought Godzilla looked really good. I really liked seeing him in different versions. We got the water version, the mini version, the city version, um, just the angry version and the one that got his head blowed up. So I, I thought that was really excellent.

1:27:15 And then the human story on top, like for me, I feel like just the human story alone is just what makes this film so fantastic. And the fact that it's Godzilla is just that much better. And, uh, You know, I'm happy that it's 2023. I said I just saw, like, an amazing Godzilla movie. So, yeah, I think I'm going to give this one just a big fat 10. I really, really love this one. You know, did my double viewing within 24 hours, so it's nice and fresh. But, yeah, no, this was really, really good, and I'm excited to just recommend this movie to people because probably a lot of people, just general audience, this one might slip through the cracks, but I definitely think it's, it's worth a viewing. Even

1:27:57 if you're not like Travis was saying earlier, even if you're not a Godzilla fan, this was, this would definitely be like a great first Godzilla movie for people to watch.

1:28:05 Yeah.

1:28:05 No, I will join the ranks and drop into the big old 10. I, there's little qualms I have here, but that's what happens when a movie is like, no movies, of course, perfect. But when majority of it's just working, I don't have any big, big ones. Maybe if I rewatch again, which I will at some point, maybe there'll be something, maybe someone will point out something like, oh, this doesn't make sense. And it's that like, Like I said, there's some effects moments. There's some stuff where I go, okay, why does Godzilla go there and come back and then go back? You know, like there's some stuff where it's like, okay, you just have to go with it because you need some things to happen in the in the story but

1:28:36 the main story of our characters is the the heart like that's a good thing like luckily even without godzilla this stuff would be good obviously you'd have to replace godzilla with something but the main story alone it's just good it's acted well for the most part so just having some great godzilla action on here just the vibe the aura the just pure menace they did with godzilla that just brings it up, so yeah, no, it's nice in the podcast to give Godzilla something pretty high, but yeah, no, this is a, this would be a 10 for me, because I don't have any major qualms, so on the enjoyment level, yeah, I loved this movie, so it was a good one, I'll be excited to watch one now, I'll be excited to see when we, if we get

1:29:13 TalkBone Golden Geeks, because I know we've seen it, well, I guess we could power it through, we don't need Dylan, you know, 75%, but I'm sure he'll watch and everything, but I'm excited to see Like I said, near the back half of the year, there's some stuff coming up. So it's not as clear as I once thought. But Taylor Field, what are you giving this?

1:29:32 Yeah, I am going to give this a nice juicy 10. This was wonderful. Like I said at the beginning, I am a huge fan of the fact that they just brought Godzilla back to being to scale and terrifying. And just the messaging embedded in this film. And it just felt like it pulled elements from the original Godzilla concept and brought in very modern vibes to it, albeit still taking place post-World War II. I'm very satisfied with it.

1:30:02 I think this is a great experience in the theater. And I can't recommend it enough that you go and, after seeing it, tell other people to go see this and just promote it. I mean, I'm sure you're already doing that if you enjoyed watching it, which I imagine most of you guys will. I have to see what S-Bubz has rated because I saw he watched like five hours ago and I haven't seen what he said about it.

1:30:23 0.5.

1:30:23 Out of 10, 2.95. That's even worse. You're kidding, right? Yeah, of course I'm kidding.

1:30:35 I just gave it zero, no.

1:30:39 No, I haven't seen his score. He likes to write up his score and then put it on there. But yeah, most people in the Discord scene are really liking it. I think it's one of these films that Overall, it's just a nice breath of fresh air and something we definitely want more of. So, yeah, let us know. You can join the Discord and be in there and we can talk about Letterboxd and a bunch of stuff goes on the Discord. And, yeah, let us know on Discord, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, wherever, whether you have questions or some comments, something we got wrong, let us know. We'd be happy to answer and interact with you as long as you're a nice, positive, kind soul.

1:31:08 Thank you very much for tuning in to this review. We will be back in the near future and it will not be boring. Bye.

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