GIZELLE-IOUS BEHAVIOR! | RHOP Premiere Recap with Claudia, Dustin & Blue

0:03 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

0:32 All right, so.

0:37 Raindrops, thanks for joining Claudia, Dustin, Blue, and myself, because now is the time for us to get into the Season 11 premiere of The Real Housewives of Potomac. Potomac is back. I have to say this, and we'll get into the particulars of this episode. I don't know how Claudia Dustin or Blue felt, but I really enjoyed this episode.

1:01 I enjoyed the premiere. The girls are back. It felt good. Let's get into it. In our industry, we call this a cold open. Raindrops is when an episode opens up and it gives you this story time that um based on scenes from the season and one scene that carries it so karen huger who you know was gone all of last season it started off with her she is reading her bible and as she's doing this we're seeing different pockets of the other girls in their moments for a second But Karen is back. She's reading her Bible.

1:47 She's at home.

1:48 And Bebe, Ray, the Black Bill Gates left the house, got in the car, did not kiss his lady goodbye. Karen Huger had to call him and say, like, you left, you need to say goodbye. And he pretty much just pushed her off. And she let us know that this was their reality. Starting with you, Dustin.

2:12 Amen.

2:14 I was like, please.

2:16 I'm just saying, listen, listen. The black Bill Gates and the black Bill Gates. Because, baby, this.

2:24 Is the black Jeff Gordon.

2:27 All that car needed was some numbers on the side, didn't it?

2:32 Going down the street like he was at NASCAR.

2:35 Motherfucking Ray Huger got on down the street from Karen. He was sick of her. He was very reminiscent of when, what's his name? When Greg Lunsford, when Kwai's ex-husband zipped down the street.

2:49 Oh my God. I've been taking care of you since the day.

2:52 I met you.

2:53 He got in that car and zipped down. All that was missing was you down the street.

2:58 Dude, Dr.

2:58 G probably got the ball, but he was Art McQuad. I've been taking care of you since the day I met you.

3:04 That's what he was telling her and sitting in that kitchen with that beautiful green back splash. That sweet tea probably still got in there. But anyway, it was reminiscent of that. Ray Huger got on down the goddamn street. He's not ever been a man of many words. Okay, so Ray has never really been a man of many words.

3:24 He was a man of no words. He was mad at Karen. I would like to know why. There's a part of me that also, I'm just going to be honest, there's a part of me that also feels like, come on, y'all. Y'all done made it this goddamn far. You know what I'm saying? Like, why are y'all breaking up now? What the fuck y'all feeling? Like, just Karen, you just got home.

3:46 You know what I'm saying? I know you was used to being by yourself. but you are in a marriage. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't, you back home now. You ain't by yourself no more. I don't know what's so bad. And I really hope that Karen, which I don't think she would, but I hope that Karen is not kind of exaggerating that to kind of beef up a personal story on the show because it's simply unnecessary. We don't want to see Karen and Ray break up. That's not going to be fun for nobody to watch because they too old to be breaking up.

4:15 It's just not going to be good to watch. We barely hanging on after seeing Karen experience that time, you know, incarcerated. So we don't want to see her, you know, displaced once again. We don't want to see that. And we feel bad for Ray. It almost feels like Karen is being mean. You know what I'm saying? And I don't want to feel like that about Karen. But I just, I don't know. They need to get it together. Play 702 and get it together.

4:43 Blue, we learned in this premiere that Listen, Karen and Ray aren't clicking. Do you agree with Dustin? Do you think, look, you've been together for 50 years, sis, sleeping in separate bedrooms like our grandparents did.

4:59 There you go.

5:00 Has it really been 50? You're just calling them old.

5:03 I think 30.

5:04 Okay. That's a significant difference between 50 and 30.

5:07 It's a whole other person.

5:09 Okay, Fred.

5:12 You know, they've been together 112 years, right?

5:13 I will say this.

5:17 Am I the only one who's seen years of Karen being alleged of being outside?

5:23 It's been a lot of alleged outside. At a certain point, can we all admit that maybe she was outside?

5:32 I'm thinking maybe he was mad about, maybe he found out who she.

5:34 Was in the car with.

5:35 Yeah, like Karen's been alleged to be outside for like seasons upon seasons upon seasons.

5:44 And everybody knows what the men, it's plural.

5:48 At a certain point, he's like, look, I've been embarrassed enough.

5:51 I'm going to go to my mama's house.

5:52 I feel like he just might have gotten tired of being embarrassed. Because in the preview, there's a whole other nigga and she looks like she's fine. I think Karen is a city girl a little bit. And Ray got tired of being at the house waiting on her to come home. Also, too, I think Karen read the comments about how we didn't enjoy how nasty she was to Wendy.

6:15 Because you saw how she came like, oh, apparently I got to be nice to Wendy. It wasn't even like she was sorry. It was like, oh, I read the comments. I went too far. I'm losing my fan base. And Wendy's like, bitch, why are you touching me? What's going on? Wendy stood there like a mummy like, no, no, no, no, no.

6:29 Keep that same energy when you told me to shut the hell up.

6:31 In other language.

6:32 And so I think Karen might be a city girl who came out of lockup thinking that her adoring fans were going to be waiting for her. And Ray was doing Hello Barbara, this is Shirley.

6:42 And the fans were like, why are you being mean? And so now she's reading her Bible as they do when they get caught.

6:49 We'll get, okay, Claudia, your thoughts on Karen.

6:51 Dustin's version is more wholesome. Dustin, this is why.

6:54 The Bible part was killing me. Like people on reality shows, Imagine if I showed myself looking at a Bible before I came on this show being shady talking shit.

7:03 Upside down.

7:05 Like, I'm going to do it next time just so I can see how it plays. You know what I mean? Karen, you don't need to do all that. Everybody be trying to go to the Bible on these reality shows. Keep it a buck. Where was that Bible when you was outside? I ain't mad at you, though. Where was the Bible when you was.

7:25 Claudia, I am mad if it's true. I am mad. If she's married and she's outside, I'm mad.

7:31 But it's not new. It's not new. She been doing this allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

7:36 I know, but it doesn't... No, because if the Black Bill Gates was on his Tiger Woods... We'll be up and running with it.

7:43 But it's harder for men because it don't get hard no more at a certain age.

7:47 Plus, I thought the breadwinner could cheat. Now, what the hell is going on? What are we doing here?

7:52 Isn't that Karen?

7:54 Wait, who's the breadwinner?

7:55 That's what I'm saying. Listen, I'm saying this.

7:57 It's Karen.

7:58 Oh, shit.

7:58 The way he didn't.

8:01 Let y'all get them cameras. He probably was like, listen, I ain't going to be around for this bullshit. Behind me looking crazy. I ain't putting no goddamn mic on.

8:09 I'm going to leave.

8:10 Like, he was out. And she was like, whatever. Listen, there's something going on there.

8:14 She texted her next man on her roster. I'm sorry, but Karen's outside.

8:18 I'm sorry. Where y'all think he went? Where y'all think he went? He probably went to a newspaper. And he went down to the Dunkin' Donuts.

8:27 He got his shoes polished.

8:29 Got him a bacon, egg, and cheese croissant.

8:31 Went down to the barber shop and talked to people.

8:35 You know what I'm saying? Can you believe him?

8:37 He got a belly.

8:38 I'm in better shape than him. Or.

8:40 He has a little young piece himself because she was away for six months. He was away for six months.

8:45 He looked tired, Claudia. He don't look like he want a piece. He looks like he want to lay down.

8:48 You'd be surprised at how the old men be trying to.

8:51 I was with you with the possibility of it not being stiff. Because I.

9:00 Yeah.

9:01 Which one is it, Claudia?

9:02 Is it stiff?

9:03 It's not.

9:04 Well... You can get it chemically altered. They have all kind of pumps now and all kind of fish tanks, pumps you can put in there.

9:11 Pumps and a bump.

9:12 Pumps and a bump. Pumps and a bump.

9:15 Well, you know what?

9:16 You know when someone's gone?

9:17 She was gone for six months. And then when you come home, like, you know, you ever have peace? And you're like, oh, I got the whole house to myself. And then you're like, I miss that person. And then they come home, you're like, this bitch ain't gonna stop talking about prison.

9:30 I do think this. And this is the part that, this could be a reach, but hear me out. And I'm saying this based on the coming attractions in the trailer. Because he made a comment that he misses old Karen, like he misses the Karen who drank. I think this. And I'm not going to diagnose Karen.

9:52 That's not my place.

9:53 What I will say is, I think Karen. Doesn't like being at home. And perhaps when she was doing things that got her into the situation, it was to distract her from her reality.

10:10 Yeah.

10:11 And I think Ray's a reminder of that. And I think as Karen's trying to, I think Karen is making the choice, my opinion. I think Karen will leave Ray because Karen doesn't want to be in a situation where she goes back to her old habits. And I'm not blaming Ray because it's not his fault. It's all internal, right?

10:31 But Ray could be a reminder of a life that Karen no longer wants anymore. The thing is this, she looks better than ever. Like Dustin said, now she's the breadwinner. And she's famous, right?

10:46 Is she outside famous?

10:48 And she's outside.

10:48 And look, although allegedly she had blue eyes, security guards, and all that stuff, I think she now understands that in order for me to be completely sober and out of the weeds, I have to leave this house.

11:03 That's a reminder.

11:04 And it's big. Yeah.

11:08 And I have to... You know, put myself in a situation where I don't have to sneak around anymore.

11:14 Oh, well.

11:15 Plus, long-term relationships like that, they be boring. That's why I like them when they end after like three months. They be the most.

11:21 Claudia, whoa, it's cuffing season, Claudia.

11:24 What are you doing?

11:26 No.

11:26 No, what if he's watching?

11:27 No, he didn't mean that, sir.

11:30 People can talk that shit. If you're being, we're being honest here. Of course, I'm nostalgic.

11:35 Oh, we've been 12 years.

11:37 Okay.

11:37 But honestly, it's so fun. Everybody's being fake the first three to six months. It's a passionate sex life. They're all considerate. They ain't farting around you. They ain't pissing on the toilet seat.

11:48 None of that.

11:48 Every day is exciting. So the first three to six months are amazing.

11:53 Aries are never beating the allegations.

11:54 If I should just have six-month relationships from the rest of my life, because I'm 53 already. What do I got? About another 15 good summers left? Claudia, no!

12:01 Claudia, I wish I could tithe right now. Because when I tell you, you preaching, sister.

12:08 And what kind of church is this?

12:09 Reverend Docter.

12:11 The fuck boy Episcopalian? The church with the Bible that Karen read was coming from.

12:16 You can wear pants to our church.

12:20 Take them things off too.

12:22 Tell me.

12:23 Blue.

12:24 Claudia and Dustin.

12:27 I love a six month relationship. It's so fun.

12:29 They are serial bachelor and bachelorette.

12:34 Aries.

12:35 I literally told Dustin last week, actually, Dustin, look, be who you are.

12:40 Be who you are.

12:43 We are hopeless romantics, though.

12:46 Hopeless being because it's six months.

12:48 But in the meantime.

12:51 Listen, in the last three and a half years, I haven't had a boyfriend, but I have a little situation that be around, whatever. But I feel like the reason why I can still get excited sometimes is because I hardly see him around. They'd be annoying. Listen, I don't want to hear your day-to-day. I don't want to hear about work. I don't want to hear about the coffee machine breaking down. I don't want to hear about, my dad wasn't there as a child.

13:13 I don't even like your father.

13:16 Oh, my God.

13:16 Okay, as a tourist, the.

13:19 Words of Claudia and Dustin are only, me and Carlos are not a part of this. If our future husbands are watching this, we are not a part of this.

13:28 Yo.

13:28 I'm in the mirror, so, literally.

13:31 Listen, Y'all can be fake and torture yourself staying with someone because you got years under your belt. That's like keeping an old fucking Toyota Corolla because it's been good to you, but it has 300,000 miles. You don't like that thing. You know you want the new Bentley. You know you want to do G-Wagon.

13:48 Y'all can stick around if y'all want to. Me and Claudia are getting down the street like Ray did.

13:53 No trauma, no damage.

14:00 At this age, too, I don't want you coughing. I don't want to hear none of that. I don't want the CPAC machine. I don't want none of that.

14:07 We've talked about that, Claudia.

14:08 My homegirls and I were saying, if we had a one-night stand with a guy and the sex was good, but he brought his CPAC machine, he got to go home.

14:14 Oh my God, it's over.

14:15 I'm not going to be- That's relationship stuff. I don't want to hear your machine. We have to be in a relationship for that to happen.

14:18 A machine? I'm never going to be around someone old enough to have the machine. It's not happening.

14:23 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Claudia.

14:24 We all get old, Claudia.

14:27 Now hold on.

14:28 I want more for you, Claudia. But listen, but I will say at least you are aware and I'm at it. I ain't mad at it.

14:40 That's the pep talk? She's aware that she's on some shit?

14:42 She's aware of what she wants. I literally told Dustin last week, because y'all know me. I've been like, yo, Dustin, I want you to slow down. Not that he's fast, but like.

14:54 No, you called him fast.

14:55 I feel like you're attacking my brother.

14:58 Look at hoe. I need you to pull your pants up.

15:02 We have never heard anything about Dustin being a whore. He's been very discreet. He's discreet. Actually, he seems like one of the happiest people on this panel. You know where that comes from? Not listening to some nigga's CPAC machine. Not listening. Oh, arguing about Thanksgiving. Where are we going this year? We went to my mama's. Shut up. Keep it romantic and beautiful. You know what's big right now in media?

15:28 Verticals.

15:29 Little mini soap operas.

15:30 I don't want a vertical relationship.

15:32 Like a vertical.

15:33 No, I want a vertical hold.

15:35 I want a husband.

15:36 Yeah, vertical hold. But here's my thing. I just think that authenticity is important. I think we should all be living to the fullest extent of whatever.

15:45 Being ourselves means.

15:46 Okay, future.

15:47 Okay. You know, I really think that. That's right.

15:51 That's very future of you.

15:53 They're in the comments.

15:55 Babies can have a CPAC. Well, I'm not messing with babies either.

16:02 Right.

16:02 Thank you.

16:04 Shout out to the CPAC community.

16:06 Shout out to y'all. Add that to the list.

16:09 We ain't even watching C-SPAN, man.

16:13 We can't say you can't find love. You just can't sleep over. That's all.

16:18 Listen, I don't want a dick pump or a CPAC. I don't want it.

16:21 You can see walk to that Uber outside.

16:23 You know what?

16:24 I'm going to get you some good rest loud as you want to.

16:26 How am I supposed to get a husband be on the show?

16:29 Girl, you don't want a husband.

16:33 You don't want a husband.

16:35 I got you, Blue.

16:36 Thank you, friend.

16:38 You don't want a husband either.

16:41 I don't want to get married, but I want a lifelong partner.

16:43 A life partner. Do you really?

16:46 Yes.

16:48 He's a Libra, baby. They are lost when they're alone. They need somebody.

16:52 They need a supervisor.

16:54 No, y'all need supervision.

16:56 Y'all do need supervision. No, a Libra needs a partner.

16:59 I'm having your back, friend.

17:01 You need this.

17:02 No, seriously. A Libra alone is the saddest thing on the planet. Y'all are meant to be coupled. Of all the signs, you're the most meant to be coupled. We got to do.

17:11 It's a time of year for us to do our round two of our astrology, by the way.

17:16 Oh, hell yeah.

17:16 You know them cards be eating. You just let me know. I know.

17:19 You clocked me last year around this time, so we'll do that.

17:22 Okay.

17:23 Unfortunately, in another relationship, Claudia and Dustin, maybe Tia should have listened to you guys because she sat down with Wendy and Stacey. Before I begin to that, what did you guys think about Dr. Wendy pulling up in her G-Wagon that she calls Psalm 91? I want to start with you, Blue. Can you.

17:52 Here we go with the Bible shit again.

17:54 Claudia!

17:57 You're going to hell today. What is happening? Oh, breaking news.

18:06 All right.

18:07 So Psalm 91, prayer of protection against fear, danger, and adversity. So that is a very pointed name. Here's the thing that shocked me about Wendy's coming back.

18:18 Y'all already know. I don't care if Wendy did it or not.

18:20 If you're new to the show.

18:22 I don't give a damn if the lady did, so I'm not going to pretend like, oh my, how dare you? I don't care.

18:26 What I do care about is, though, this episode made me realize, allegedly, this is an opinion.

18:33 Wendy, don't get mad. I'm on your side. It's making me feel like Eddie did.

18:37 Something, and Wendy's just being good to her husband, but she feel a way that he got them in this mess, and he's just being very apologetic.

18:43 Did anybody else get that?

18:44 It really feels like Wendy's like, look at the hell you got us into you.

18:48 And so Wendy.

18:49 Is gritting her teeth because her dude done got them in a mess. And sometimes I love him, sometimes I love him not.

18:57 But he's all I got. Shout out to those of you who know that song. And I really... feel for her because.

19:03 There is a rage that comes in your body when someone you love has effed up but you love them so much you have to have their back even though you want to cuss them out but you can't do it in public but it kind of seeps in through the edges so she's doing her best to be a good a good wife she's doing her best to be protected against adversity like the name of her car but you can tell that eddie's eating crow and when they said do y'all have separate counsel the way she said absolutely the way she said yes Made it very clear that, nigga, I'll have your back up to a point.

19:34 But if it comes to it, the kids can come visit you on Saturdays. That's what I got from Wendy's entrance.

19:41 I'm going to say this, and I'm going to toss it to you, Claudia. I unfortunately agree with Blue. When I say unfortunately, not that Blue statement is because it is the unfortunate reality that I think we're all facing. This was the episode where I did feel like, okay, Wendy is calling her G-Wagon Psalm 91 because she's only focused on God's protection because she did not feel like her husband protected her. This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

20:18 Based on the emails that were sent where Eddie allegedly emailed Dr. Wendy saying to inflate the numbers because he will be able to get more out of the insurance. These are all alleged. But based on this scene, her behavior in this episode gave me a woman who. Who is unable to look at her husband in the eye because as a Nigerian woman, this man was supposed to be the one that led her. And I think Dr.

20:54 Wendy feels like you led me down the wrong road and it's hard for her to see him as that man again. And I do think courtesy of two separate attorneys, legal teams that they're having, to me is evident that He more than likely, if there is any sort of sentencing, that they're positioning to where he will take the fall and she will stay home. And I do think, unfortunately, and I hope, look, I hope I'm wrong. I hope all of this is wrong. But I can't deny what I saw on that screen. I think Dr. Wendy is setting herself up for a divorce.

21:36 One thousand percent. She is saying it without saying it. It wasn't me. Because, okay, let me, oh my God, why does this number keep calling my phone? Stop calling me, God damn it. Okay, so look, the way she came with the car, I will take back what I said about the Bible thing with her because when I think about it, yes, I do think that she is separating herself from her husband. I think that she is probably innocent in this case, but that is her man. She loves him and she's like the best I could do I ain't going to blast you and I'm going to stand by your side, but I'm not taking the fall because I didn't do it. Or maybe I haven't told your ass that we shouldn't do this and you did it anyways. Because it seemed like, why else would you

22:18 be so bold in getting a new car and bringing it the first day of filming on the show? That is bold as hell. Unless you know you yourself has nothing to worry about, then you won't care about that. I'm so sorry, you guys. I'm getting spammed right now. So that's what I think. I think that it shows even more. Like we were already suspicious last year, right? Like, damn, why did she got her own lawyer and a separate, you know, you'd be in it together. But there's a reason for that. That's very strategic. And I think she is definitely, yes, the car thing, I feel you, Carlos, with that whole thing you said about protection. But she definitely was like saying there's days she didn't want to talk to him and look at him. If you're in

23:01 the trenches with someone and you did something with them together, that's not how you talk to them. You'd make it more about us against the world, not internally between us. I didn't want to look at you. And then her saying it on camera, she's telling us without... Well, she is telling us. She's telling us.

23:20 He ate it. He ate it, too.

23:21 He is. And I feel that's going to be a tough, tough situation for both of them to be in. That's why if she would have just dated like me and Dustin, she wouldn't be in this situation.

23:31 Oh, my God. Okay. City Girls Up is the name of the episode.

23:37 The king of the city boys, Dustin Ross. What you got to say about this?

23:42 I ain't even going to lie, y'all. This made me feel very uneasy.

23:46 Because Wendy and Eddie have presented a unified front up until, in regards to the legal charges that they're facing, right? They presented nothing but a unified front to the public. Episode one of season 11 of Real Housewives of Potomac was the first time that we heard Wendy speak in a way that othered herself from the situation or distanced herself from Eddie. or kind of placed blame and responsibility in his lap in any way. This was the first time that she's ever spoken that way about this case.

24:22 I absolutely think it was a soft launch for what we know looks to be an upcoming divorce between them.

24:31 I absolutely hate to see, I just hate this. I hate it.

24:34 I thought Wendy and Eddie were a beautiful couple to look at and to see on TV. Also, Wendy is a doctor of philosophy and her husband has a Juris Doctorate. They're smarter than this. They're smarter than this entire situation. And there was a part of me that kind of, it just stung a little bit to hear her distance herself in that way. It was kind of like, damn, I didn't want it to come to this, but here it is. Also, with the charges, with the email, like you said, they're alleging that he sent that email suggesting to inflate those numbers, but he sent the email to Wendy.

25:11 So I'm trying to understand where we pivot here and just completely say that he encouraged her to do this. I just think the more details that come out once the court proceedings and shit are made public, we'll absolutely have more insight into what happened. But it's just funny to me that even after that first episode, the discourse surrounding this case is now, Eddie did Wendy wrong. And this is what now we're facing with how Wendy's going to move forward from this. And I guess it's only fair to have that perspective on this because Wendy's the housewife, Eddie's her husband, so the fans are more familiar with her.

25:52 But I just wonder what the factual evidence and the details are going to be that suggests that Eddie led Wendy through this and that it wasn't something that they did together. I don't want either one of them to go to jail. I want both of them to get away with it. I don't want nothing bad to happen to them. But I just think it's interesting that the discourse has shifted after those two scenes, right? Yeah, after those two scenes, the conversation has now changed to, it used to be Wendy and Eddie are going through this.

26:27 Now after Sunday's episode, it's, Eddie did this to Wendy, so he's going to take the fall. It's just funny how the discourse has changed.

26:36 That's all. I agree. You know what?

26:38 Think about it. I'm just saying, think about it.

26:41 Yeah, you're right.

26:42 It's not just that she's an innocent thing and he did this thing to her because she's a smart woman. If you're married to someone, if someone's living in your house, there's no way. Just like we've side-eyed Phaedra with the whole Apollo thing. All this money can't be coming in the house and you're just like oblivious. You knew something was up. Maybe in their arguments, maybe there was a thing where he was like, I promise you we ain't going to get caught. Yeah, I think it's that. And maybe it's something like that.

27:03 I think he talked her into it and that still feels like she was misled even though she's in cahoots.

27:06 But I don't think he's just by himself. Let me amend that. I don't think he's by himself in it now. I think that, yeah. maybe there was a promise of, Hey, it's foolproof. We ain't going to get caught, but there's no way all that money's coming to the house. And you're not going to question that. Like, you know, just like, yeah.

27:24 I also want to say, um, I think it's also noteworthy that last season, remember Wendy and Giselle, I think it was shot that scene at the Ben's dealership. Um, looking at those, the G wagon, it was electric G wagon. So she had been, she was getting a car, but I'm pretty sure that was, that was filmed before this, um, these legal troubles arose or whatever.

27:45 And that doesn't, you know, that.

27:48 Doesn't lessen the appearance of this. That doesn't make the optics look any better.

27:54 But she had been saying she was going to get a new car.

27:57 I like seeing Wendy look good and have nice things as a fan of this show. So seeing her in that pale yellow, long black hair, she's tall and beautiful, getting out that dope ass motherfucking brand new G-Wagon, Psalm 91.

28:12 I enjoyed it. You know what I'm saying? It's our truth. I like seeing Wendy on top. I do. I like seeing her. Yeah. I just like it. I'm sorry.

28:20 Go ahead, Blue. Can we be honest?

28:22 The Teresa Giudice of it all is why I actually don't think it's odd that it took this turn. Because what tends to happen in these legal cases is the wife tends to think that she can cover for a scheme that the husband came up with. And then when she starts to realize just how stupid it is, she's mad at herself for letting herself be talked into it.

28:39 This happens to women a lot when they have traditional marriages where they believe in the church and man leading.

28:45 I've had a relationship before with somebody. He always had a get rich. I'm not going to say too much because he might watch the show.

28:50 He always had a scheme about how if I just joined this business, maybe that's called a pyramid scheme.

28:55 But he always had an idea, right?

28:57 And the way those emails are written, because I did go back and read them, it felt like he was the excited one. Like, hey, we can do this. And she was talked into it. I would still be mad at you if you as my husband, I told you I didn't want to do it. You convinced me it was no big deal. Now it's the biggest deal of my fucking life. I'm still going to be mad even though technically you convinced me, right? Because the tone of the emails was him trying to convince her when I went back and read them. He's excited and I'm not really seeing much from her. Also too, can we be honest?

29:27 Happy Eddie is such a sweet guy. I do think it's messing with her that she knows that there was no malice, but he's now a liability. And we don't talk enough about when you're in this industry and there are people who love you, but who are liabilities. either because they're not media trained, they don't know how to have discretion. Have we all not experienced this on this panel where you're up, but you got some friends who don't know how to have discretion about sharing your business?

29:50 I once had to tell somebody who was working for me, like, hey, I know you just started dating somebody new. Don't tell them that you work for me and we do X, Y, and Z, because that's a security breach.

29:58 And they were like, oh, snap. I never even thought of that, right?

30:01 So Eddie being the supportive golden retriever, I don't think there was any malice, but he still made a mess. And I think that's why she's saying sometimes it's hard looking at you because I know you're a good man, but you made this mess. And she even said, I was at the height of my career when this all happened.

30:18 When she said that, whoa.

30:21 Yeah, and it's true. It was.

30:22 It's resentment. It's resentment.

30:24 That's resentment.

30:25 That's resentment.

30:26 Also think this, listen. Y'all know how I feel. Bias, I don't care. Team Dr. Wendy all day. I don't care what... I'm Dr. Wendy all day. And Stacey.

30:39 And Giselle.

30:40 So, Stacey did nothing wrong. She didn't mean it, okay?

30:44 Dr.

30:44 Wendy. We don't care if she did it anyways. We still love her.

30:48 I wanted to get away with it, actually.

30:50 I've been saying that.

30:51 I've been said that. I don't care if she did it or not.

30:54 But this the thing. This the thing. And this is where my producer brain kicked into. I love Dr. Wendy and I've always been the one that will make jokes about, okay, Dr. Wendy, we know that you and Eddie had a meeting before the scene and y'all are very structured and organized of what this scene is going to be when they hit record.

31:14 I said that to say, I still thought the same thing when I watched them together. It was very much, and Dustin, first of all, Dustin is 1000% right, how the narrative has shifted now because of this one episode. The only thing I would add to that, Dustin, is shifted because that's what Wendy wanted.

31:34 Exactly. It was intentional. It was.

31:37 Her scenes were intentional to, I do believe that, listen, my heart of hearts is telling me that her and Eddie had a conversation. He feels horrible. Because you can't deny the fact that she was on top.

31:57 Dr.

31:57 Wendy was on the verge of becoming the face of Atomic. Yeah, she was.

32:02 Like, Dr.

32:02 Wendy is, and she had that, the talk show at the White House. And I do agree with Blue, when you trust somebody, whether it's your partner or your boss, right? Like, you three trust me to make sure that if I say, hey guys, I got this opportunity for us, y'all know Carla's gonna make sure it's good. And I will feel horrible if I ever put y'all in a situation where y'all did not feel safe. I think Dr. Wendy feels like my husband told me, trust me, this will be good.

32:39 And it turned out to be the worst thing in her career ever. And I think he's telling her, once we start filming this season, give it all to me.

32:48 I'll take the L.

32:48 I'll take the L.

32:49 You know what I think happened?

32:50 I think that when Wendy, because they've been together for a long time, and Eddie has, you know how people have resting bitch face? Eddie has resting nigga smile. He always is smiling, no matter what the emotional temperature in the room is.

33:03 Or the conversation.

33:04 And I think that probably was cute to her at first, but now that he's done something that she thinks is stupid.

33:09 It's nothing.

33:09 Worse than seeing somebody who you think just did something dumb smiling.

33:13 Oh, yeah.

33:14 That's true.

33:14 Oh, that makes me angry.

33:15 It's infuriating.

33:16 And so I believe that Eddie had probably hit that happy Eddie.

33:19 He was sitting there. And she looked at him. Motherfucker. And that was it. All she heard was her papa. Wendy, shut the fuck up. She had to. Yeah.

33:29 So one thing I want to get into is, baby, this episode, in my opinion, the A story was Tia, which was interesting to me because, and this, I don't know Tia. I enjoy her. I enjoy her more at the top of her last season, not so much the middle to the end. I feel like she switched sides.

33:50 It was weird.

33:50 Yeah.

33:52 I wasn't a big fan of you, Tia, towards the end.

33:54 All good.

33:55 One thing about reality, you're only as good as the last episode. This episode, we are faced with the fact that Tia's husband, Rob, has been seen on dating apps. Whether you are a reality star or a co-host of Monday Night Live, you will get DMs of information about about these housewives, right? We all get them, no shade. So, safety admitted.

34:23 That Carly will do the cackle.

34:25 Because, because, because, Blue.

34:30 They really said it to Claudia.

34:32 But the biggest thing is, I got one and I didn't respond and they were like, oh, did you just.

34:37 I've been behaving lately. I've been behaving.

34:40 That's what doesn't open up his DM.

34:41 Okay.

34:42 So, Stacey has said that since last year, last year, i.e. last season, that she has been receiving messages about Tia's husband being on dating sites. She also says she received pictures of him on these dating sites. Tia. Said that they've been married for 27 years. I'm sorry, they've been together for 27 years, married 17 years of that 27, and this is news to her. What I will say is this. I tell people all the time, the moment you get on reality television, especially of Real Housewives, your entire family's information is going to be investigated. And To learn that Rob, her husband, has been on dating sites as a married man, it now makes sense as to why last season nothing was there. Because my opinion,

35:46 my opinion, my opinion. I think Tia knew. I think Tia is just embarrassed the girls found out. There is no way you've been married to a man for 17 years, add on 10, together 27, and And you mean to tell me the first time you ever heard he was on dating apps.

36:05 Is when you got on Potomac? And he's allegedly been on there for a year. Further to your point, Carlos.

36:15 Yeah, that's embarrassing.

36:16 All of a sudden, she gets a Potomac job and he's like this. Let me... She ain't filming. All she does is film. Let me get on fire. Why don't you make him into a big dummy?

36:28 Wait, why he gotta be a big dummy though, Carlos?

36:31 Because I think it's this. The problem I have with these reality girlies, I get so mad when these reality girlies think we're dumb. You knew... Tia, you knew your man was cheating on you.

36:42 You knew.

36:43 allegedly.

36:44 Allegedly, Carlos.

36:46 Don't miss me with, well, Giselle, you should have told me. No, Giselle should not have. Y'all eviscerate this woman because she unfortunately has in the past said things about her husband. So the one time Giselle tapped out and said, I ain't saying shit about these husbands. You're mad at Giselle, but you're not, but we don't, we don't, we don't get a chance to see you argue with your man to confront him. Why did it take? Cause I, I picked all this shit. Why did it take the production to add in the producer? Did you talk to Rob?

37:23 And she's like, yeah, we talked. Why are you talking off camera? Are you getting your story together?

37:30 Yeah.

37:32 Why are you talking to this man off camera about what he did a year ago? And you had no idea. And you were so blinded by it. And Giselle owes you a conversation. And what type of friend is Giselle? No, what type of husband do you have where the two of you got on this reality show to perpetuate a lifestyle that you don't even believe yourself?

37:53 Do you see the recurring theme of tonight's episode?

37:56 What? What, Bobby?

37:57 Term relationships don't.

37:59 No, Claudia.

38:01 I bet you he was a baby.

38:02 No, Claudia, no.

38:04 Then he cheated.

38:06 27 years?

38:07 Oh, never.

38:08 27 years a slave. 27 years a slave.

38:10 And still be married.

38:13 Here's your husband. Do you see what I have to fight through?

38:16 She could have been happier.

38:18 Okay, but even with that, Los, I do feel like Tia had a strong premiere.

38:23 Oh, no, no, no.

38:24 I do feel like I agree with you.

38:26 I love her with this trifecta of her, Wendy, and Stacey. I want them to be the rock.

38:28 She is bullshitting. She is bullshitting.

38:32 But I do think she is bullshitting about knowing whether or not her man had been on the apps for a year. And also, what app was that? Because that also can expand the conversation.

38:42 It could have been Ryan. But beyond that.

38:44 Dustin, I have to go.

38:46 Bye.

38:49 Oh, what app was it?

38:50 I just got that joke.

38:52 I'm not picking up what you dropped. Go ahead.

38:54 I just picked it up too. Okay. I too, Blue.

38:57 I'm so glad you said that you would have loved to see the trifecta mature and grow between Stacey, Tia, and Wendy.

39:06 It pissed me off.

39:07 Seeing them have that moment at that picnic table, Wendy looking beautiful, Stacey looking gorgeous, Tia looking good, them sitting at that table and actually making progress. And obviously, based on their interviews and their press run for the season, promoting the season last week and the week before, both Tia and Stacey said in interviews that basically they don't fuck with each other.

39:28 Damn it!

39:30 Potential camaraderie we witnessed in that scene, it short-lived at best, and it pissed me off. I'm going to tell you all right now, I fuck with Stacey Rush. I love her on this show. I think she's a star. I think she gets a hard time from these women. And I'm going to be on her side this season. I'm just telling y'all right now.

39:48 No matter what.

39:49 I'm telling y'all right now.

39:51 Can we quote her?

39:52 I thank you for apologizing for what you said about my husband. It brings me no joy what I'm about to tell you about yours.

39:58 Oh, yeah.

39:59 I said, bitch, you better. And, Justin, guess what she is also?

40:05 What? Aries. Oh, see?

40:07 You know, me and Carlos love Aries, apparently. No, I'm here for it.

40:14 Come on.

40:14 She ain't with that. She's like, thank you for the apology. Your man is cheating on you.

40:18 Period. Team Stacey. But no, I will say this. Claudia, I want to hear from you. I will say this. Dustin and Blue, you're right. Despite what I just said, because I said what I said, I will still say this premiere belonged to Tia. I am looking forward to seeing more of Tia. And I also like the trifecta of Wendy, Stacey, and Tia, although based on the trailer, it goes to shit. But hey, I'm enjoying it.

40:43 One last note too, Los.

40:44 Further to your point, I was not entering this season looking forward to seeing what Tia had to say, I'm going to be honest.

40:52 I didn't think there was anything there for me to.

40:53 Be interested in, so I was pleasantly surprised by not just what was going on in her marriage, because honestly, him being on a dating app. Like, what does that mean? That doesn't mean that he cheated or any of that. I mean, it was, it was wrong and inappropriate, but it's not like there's this groundbreaking reveal that made me interested in her story. It was more so just watching her talk about it and the way she had, it just showed a little bit more depth that I didn't see last season. And it made me actually interested in her life as opposed.

41:24 To her with this.

41:25 I'm not really with the, her kissing Giselle's ass shit. That's going to get on my nerves. I really do feel like she's kissing Gisele last, but what I saw from Tia in the premiere, it was impressive. All the ladies actually had a strong premiere episode.

41:39 They did. I agree.

41:41 Jazzy's in the comments. She said they edit a lot out, Tress.

41:45 Hey, Jazzy, baby.

41:47 Hey, Jazzy. Jazzy, leave more comments and let us know what they left out.

41:52 Yeah, let us know.

41:53 Go ahead, Claudia.

41:55 Yeah, I thought, so we all loved Tia last season, right? Out the gate. But then she got kind of annoying towards the end, and we were like, oh, come on, man. We had higher hopes for you. This kind of erased that. It erased the bad taste in my mouth for her. I was here for it. She seemed like she was genuinely hurt, whether she knew or not. Probably she didn't know something. Embarrassed. We might actually get a good storyline out of her that doesn't depend on other people, and I like this. It seemed more.

42:26 Just more depth to it and just more realistic than just like last season was like a waste. This season, I'm into this. I'm into it.

42:34 Yeah.

42:35 No, it was good. It was good. But her husband's an idiot.

42:38 Like you can't be, listen, if you're moderately known and you go on those dating apps, I see as celebrities all the time at Raya, they have a policy where if you get caught screenshotting a couple of times, they will kick your ass off those apps. So you got to know, and they should, right? You should be able to do that. But what idiot goes on a dating app when you and your wife are on a reality show?

43:01 That was stupid of him.

43:02 The one that's sick of his wife.

43:04 Yeah, that means you really don't give a damn.

43:06 Do you know what it was, Claudia? The breakfast. He tired of eating them baked beans for breakfast.

43:11 Well, not the English breakfast, bitch.

43:14 And Dustin, Dustin. Them runny tomatoes.

43:16 He said, all right, one more bean.

43:19 He was sick of it.

43:20 And Dustin, he probably liked it for the first, what?

43:24 Three to six months.

43:25 Six months, Claudia. Oh, God, here we go. There we go.

43:27 Oh, my God. OK.

43:29 We're back.

43:29 We're back. Justin and Blue. So first of all, we have- It's groceries. Because I want to make sure I give it a proper setup. There is a new housewife, okay? Her name is Courtney.

43:49 All right.

43:50 So Courtney, I'm going to butcher your last name, Courtney. I apologize. I believe it's pronounced Ajinka.

43:58 Mm-hmm.

43:58 Okay.

43:59 Okay.

43:59 Courtney Ajinka, who is a celebrity event designer. She designed Simba Bailey's wedding to Mike Hill.

44:06 Which we was at.

44:09 I wasn't invited, but you were there.

44:12 I'm so sorry, y'all. I had to. That's what's up.

44:19 Claudia and Dustin. No, no, no.

44:21 There's so much going on in this show simultaneously.

44:23 I cannot.

44:24 Sorry, I had groceries delivered and I have possums that be in my front door. Like, if I leave food out there.

44:29 The possums... You do.

44:30 You get groceries.

44:31 Dustin's talking about wedding invites that never came from Carlos. I'm sitting here praying.

44:36 No, first of all, I want to go on record saying this because I keep forgetting that everybody watches this. So it's not a bad thing. Me and Cynthia actually talked about it on my podcast.

44:48 Talked about who? The husband over here?

44:51 No, I said how the new housewife, Courtney, is an event designer and she did Cynthia's wedding. And Dustin said, yes, Carla's where we were at. And I said, I wasn't there.

45:00 I wasn't invited.

45:01 Oh, sorry about that.

45:04 Claudia was there. No, but it was an honest.

45:10 Well, everybody else was there.

45:12 Yo, shout out to the Aries pep talks. When they feel bad for you... First of all, sorry about that. We don't know how to.

45:18 Hold our friends.

45:19 We don't know how.

45:19 We be like... Y'all just be tapping on people. You be like, okay, you okay? You good?

45:25 We're good. We're good. Me and Cynthia talked about it on my podcast.

45:29 We love Cynthia.

45:30 It was no shame.

45:32 Me too.

45:32 We literally forgot.

45:34 It's all good.

45:35 Damn. Al Reynolds was there. Funky. Everybody was there.

45:38 Bitch, I am. Claudia, you are not helping. Oh, my God.

45:42 I see all kinds of people from Atlanta. I never even recognized them. I was like, damn, how you.

45:47 Giselle was there over in the corner.

45:48 Giselle was there?

45:50 Y'all are not helping, making this better.

45:52 She wasn't talking to nobody.

45:54 She was scrolling in her phone with her mask on, looking tight, sitting over in the corner.

45:58 Let me stop.

46:01 Let me stop.

46:03 What is in the air today? I love retrograde T-shirts.

46:06 I put it the same way.

46:07 But I love it. Okay. Giselle is a minister. She's a mother of two sons. She is married to former NBA player and current Washington Wizards coach Alexis. Listen, for me, so far so good. I'm intrigued. She looks interesting, quirky, different personality. And I will always say this about Potomac casting.

46:36 Always say this. And shout out to Adrienne, who cast the show since season one.

46:40 Mm-hmm.

46:43 Those Potomac girls that they cast to me fit the pool of Potomac.

46:47 Yes.

46:49 Right?

46:49 There's something like, I love Stacey. Stacey and Dr. Wendy are my holy trinity. But I can't see those three on Atlanta. No.

47:02 They're perfect for Potomac. Yes.

47:05 Courtney is perfect for Potomac. And I must say, I am interested. Her husband is subbing too.

47:13 Yeah.

47:14 It's too much man.

47:17 Claudia and Blue. Well, Dustin, you too.

47:20 That's a lot of man.

47:23 My God.

47:23 Have y'all ever dated a man that was seven feet tall?

47:28 I've never been past six four.

47:30 No, I did six six before. That was a good one.

47:34 At a certain point, it's too much man meat.

47:38 I like a lot of man meat now.

47:42 I have a shallow cervix but yeah good for.

47:44 I don't yeah I can't I can take it I can fight so I can date taller.

47:53 That's true you do have to fight when you date.

47:59 Taller what were y'all thoughts on Courtney I like her she's kooky she's an odd bird not a bird but like she's an odd little creature I like her She's fun.

48:11 I like that there's a sports connection. Shout out to my ex, who's also one of the coaches on that team.

48:15 Yikes.

48:17 Yeah.

48:17 Claudia, keep going. Don't say nothing else. I'm not saying too much. We're good. Continue, Claudia.

48:23 Next exit.

48:23 Go on from there, Claudia. Go on from there.

48:28 We need a safe word.

48:30 Dustin, you sound like, what's that? Dustin, what's that mean?

48:34 It's all good.

48:35 Okay, that's enough, yo.

48:38 I like her for those.

48:40 Remember when Lisa Rinna, when Erika Jay was on the verge of tears.

48:44 And Lisa Rinna said, breathe.

48:47 We should cut out Sutton at the table.

48:49 Yep, yep, yep. Slow down.

48:50 Yep.

48:57 So she's exactly what these kind of shows need. She's over the top with the furs and stuff at the games, doing a lot. She's cute.

49:04 She's a minister in lingerie. It's a lot going on. It's a lot.

49:07 And I love that. I think that's going to be so good for the show. I really do. It makes sense being a Potomac to have some kind of connection to the sports team there. And the fact that he's a coach, you know, one of the coaches there. I think she's a great addition. She seems fun, you know. She's the opposite of Angel.

49:24 It's like she's the polar opposite of what Angel did last season.

49:27 Well, she's awake. What?

49:32 She's awake.

49:35 She's awake. And then she's not, we don't have to see this.

49:38 Oh, don't you say she's awake or a wag?

49:40 Awake.

49:41 Because they both work. Awake or a wag? Either, I'll take either, Claudia. She's awake. That's already an improvement from last season.

49:51 Okay, so Courtney, you know, like, I.

49:53 Really felt like.

49:55 Hey, Carlos, you could have never asked me to be on the show.

49:58 You know.

49:59 He knows who he invited.

50:01 So Courtney and Jinka, right, I think that she. You know what she did that surprised me?

50:09 She did a great job of playing neutral the entire premiere episode. While showing her personality, she still was very neutral. We don't know a lot about her personality. We don't know anything other than what she wanted us to know. I think that she was composed in a way and she postured and presented in a way that was very controlled.

50:34 And it was very all good. I'm not complaining. But it was very reminiscent to me, especially when you add in the faith, the faith dynamic. It was very reminiscent of season five Portia Williams in Atlanta to me.

50:46 Right.

50:47 Where, you know, there's more under the surface, but it's being presented to you in the holy wrapping paper. And so I think that that is what we look forward to with Courtney. I think if Courtney stays for multiple seasons, I think that we will get to see what's underneath that. Because that's definitely in the front, but she even made reference to it herself. She said, you know, I can go to the country club, the city club, and we can go to the club. She actually referred to a girl's night out where she doesn't remember what happened. I just think there is a, I think once she becomes more comfortable, probably in her faith, you know what I'm saying?

51:24 I think we'll see a different side, a more authentic version of Courtney, but I love everything she presented in the first episode, even down.

51:33 To the way that she even neutralized Giselle. Giselle said to her, I thought you were one of the talls.

51:40 And Courtney was like, girl, she was like, I'm so, I'm sure I got to wear these seven inch heels to get up next to my man.

51:46 I was like, oh, see, she knows. Yeah.

51:49 She knows what.

51:51 The talls are.

51:51 You know how to play this game. You ain't the preacher's wife.

51:55 Come on. You know what I'm saying?

51:56 Plus Cynthia's wedding, they all know her. So here's the thing.

51:59 They like to sniff you like animals. You know how when a dog gets around you, it has to sniff you first? Or Claudia, a cat They sniff you first just to get acclimated to you. I think because she was in the service industry providing an elevated experience for people like Cynthia Bailey, people already have a pleasant familiarity with her and they know that she knows how to stay in her lane and she's not a fan watching.

52:20 She's already part of the ecosystem.

52:22 Because last year it felt like we were watching people who watched the show who were showing up as fans and couldn't keep up where she's kind of already baked into the ecosystem.

52:32 This is not, she's new to this. She's not true to this. Sorry. She's true to this. She's not new to it.

52:35 I feel like Carl, 20s on 10s, 10s on 20s.

52:39 Y'all know what I mean? She's comfortable.

52:42 She is. No, I, I, I think she has a lot of potential and, Robin Dixon is back. Claudia, how you feel about that?

52:51 I like it. I know a lot of people don't like her or whatever. I like it. I think she's there to stir the pot, talk a little shit. She lost a little weight off a little Ozempic GLP-1.

53:01 And her face, according to Wendy, she said, I can see it right here. I said, wow, Wendy. That's wow.

53:08 Can we get into that back and forth real quick? Wendy ate that shit up. That was a, so did Robin.

53:14 And I've never been, Robin was never one of my favorite housewives, but you know, I'm always going to keep it real.

53:20 That was a masterclass in housewifery.

53:22 Yeah.

53:23 Right?

53:24 Because Wendy started it, right? Because Wendy don't like Robin and Robin don't like Wendy. Wendy started it when she said Robin had lost weight. She looked different in her face. And Robin was like, you do too or whatever. Wendy was like, yeah, this is Pilates and stress. And Robin was like, oh, it seems like it'd be stress first, then polities.

53:44 This is all off the dome.

53:45 And then Wendy said, yeah, I can tell it's Ozem because I can see right in your jowls.

53:48 Yeah, Wendy says, Wendy says, mm-hmm, your best friend is over there.

53:56 It was the volley between the two of them. And that's why the OGs get the respect that they do because that is what you saw was seasoned housewifery.

54:07 And not, yeah. You know?

54:10 And not doing too much. It didn't go too far. It was just enough where it was like, oh, okay, I see you.

54:15 I see you, bitch. We see each other.

54:17 Yeah, that's what it felt like. And Robin been on the sidelines for a few years. We got to see where everybody talking shit, whatever. She could probably come back. When you come back after being gone for a little while, I think you have a little bit of extra little oomph to you. You know what I mean? So we'll see.

54:31 I like her in this role. My opinion, I'm not giving her the Cynthia Bailey godmother friend role.

54:39 No. Let's not do that.

54:41 I didn't go that far. What I'm saying is I would like to see Robin stay as a friend.

54:50 She always was a friend. She ain't never give no personal story.

54:54 Let's call it what it is. Robin always operated in the capacity of being a friend of the show. because she was on the show as a friend of Giselle's. She never gave anything in regards to her personal story, so much so, I was at Watch What Happens Live behind the bar the day she was on the show, and Andy grilled her about her decision to share the real story about Juan's alleged infidelity over on Patreon behind a paywall. Robyn has always existed on the show as a friend. I think that her not feeling the pressure of having to share a personal story will result in a happier Robyn, which I think will result in a more pleasant Robin to watch on the screen. So, and she, and also, here we go again with the seats on

55:36 the plane shit all over again, right? There's nothing wrong with just being, not even just, there's nothing wrong with the role of a friend of the show.

55:44 Nothing.

55:45 You travel just as much as the housewives. You do the same things. You do the same press if you work it right. You know what I'm saying? So like, she's already expressed that she's happy as a friend of the show this season.

55:59 Good for her. That's how I feel. Good for her.

56:02 Yeah, she was light about it.

56:05 She's going to hold Gisele accountable. I can't wait to see what that looks like. A green-eyed bandit on green-eyed bandit grind.

56:10 I don't believe it.

56:11 They probably have a verbal dust of them to be like, girl, okay. It's good to get back to terrorizing everybody together. I want to see them hold each other accountable. That's for the people that will watch baddies in the chat. There ain't nothing but pressure in TT. That's Robin and Gisele. That's for the Zeus audience in the chat. Anyway, go ahead, Carlos.

56:32 No, please, please. Anytime Zeus gets mentioned, you got my attention.

56:35 No, listen.

56:36 Our audience wants that too. So I will also give Courtney this. Shout out to Courtney for getting the Wizards game approved. On a show I did called Love and Marriage DC. Dustin, you remember the Wizards game where Ashley Silva....

56:53 How can I forget? Are you crazy? That was one of the best. Oh, my God. And to whom it may.

57:00 Concern, there's an audience that wants to watch that show.

57:04 Go ahead, Carlos. I won't go too far.

57:06 Yes, yes, yes. So the Wizards game in the premiere was everything. Now, they did go to a restaurant, and Tia is now facing with Ashley. And she told Ashley that you look delighted in my pain based on Ashley going on. Shout out to Wellington from the reality rundown. blog Instagram page where he did a he hosted an event where Ashley was the guest and that's where Ashley publicly mentioned what Tia's husband was doing Tia brought it up and Ashley threw Giselle under the bus and said I'm not the one who found this out first I'll let that person speak for themselves Giselle said it was me Tia was upset with it. And that's when the trifecta of Wendy, Stacey, and Tia, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, got in Giselle's butt. Dustin, take it away.

58:09 They got her ass. And once again, shout out to Stacey from Detroit. Okay.

58:14 And the Detroit definitely came out this season as we saw in Karen's That's So Raven moment at the beginning when she gazed into the future and she saw Stacey saying, yeah, bitch.

58:26 And I'll say it to your chest, bitch. I was like, ooh, Stacey. Stacey. But anyway, seeing them work together.

58:34 Y'all know my favorite moments on the Housewives show are when everybody is kind of on the same accord, or at least the people I like are on the same accord against evil.

58:44 Not evil, because I don't think Giselle is evil. But just in this case, they all were on the same page.

58:51 And so I loved seeing that everybody had something to say at the right times.

58:55 Everybody was reacting.

58:57 It really made the scene robust, which I'm sure Carlos, you can appreciate as a producer, things that really make you feel and experience the scene more than just.

59:06 Words, word salad, right? So we got everything.

59:10 Shout out to, again, the women that know how to be housewives, that know how to be real housewives. Shout out to Wendy, following the prompt from whatever producer told her to do it, but the way she did it was masterful, right?

59:24 She checked, she called it out.

59:26 Was able to dig deeper in the issue and find out more and really get to the middle of it. Tia got a chance to get in there and do her thing, even though we know she didn't mean it, but she got a chance to get in there and do her thing, you know, show her teeth a little bit, her, you know, y'all know what the fuck I'm talking about.

59:43 It was just a good damn scene, and I enjoyed it.

59:46 It was good. Blue?

59:49 I have a question. Dustin, as our historian, are Wendy and. What's old girl's name? Wendy and Stacey still good? No. Oh, that breaks my heart so bad.

1:00:02 And I'm pissed about it because we watch Stacey.

1:00:05 We can all sit here and say with a surety that Stacey tried to nurture her friendship with Wendy.

1:00:13 Very much.

1:00:14 We saw it all last season.

1:00:15 We saw her say, if I'm not getting along with nobody else and you're being nice to me, I'm going to show you that I appreciate that by being nice to you too.

1:00:24 And that's what Stacey did. And we saw her build that.

1:00:27 I don't want to be disappointed in Wendy when I find out what the cause of the breakdown of their friendship was.

1:00:32 And I also hope it's temporary.

1:00:35 Same. I think that's what's lingering. I almost wish ignorance was bliss.

1:00:39 And I did not know that because I actually think Wendy was the star of the episode. I think that Tia was the most improved.

1:00:49 And I think that.

1:00:51 Courtney was a great rookie, a first showing. And I think Stacey has always had the crown. To me, Stacey was never moving in my eyes. It was always going to be Stacey and whoever else decided to come, right? So I love Stacey and Wendy so much because when Stacey broke into Tia, she literally said, I wanted it to be between us. I did not want it to be a pack of wolves attacking you as the group.

1:01:18 And we've seen how sometimes that doesn't go well. And to Carlos's point, even if Tia... knew or had inklings, because the producers had that really great, because the producers are really great with their receipts. By the way, I have a new scarf for the winter. It's just a wool receipt I'm going to wear at the next episode.

1:01:32 But the way they pulled the receipts and showed that the day earlier, Tia was talking to her husband, and he's looking at his phone on Adam, Jack, whatever the fuck he's looking on, Raya, whatever it is allegedly.

1:01:43 I'm jacked.

1:01:44 Girl, I don't know. I just work here. He's looking at whatever he's looking at, and Tia's like, oh, you sick of me already?

1:01:51 Claudia, you and I both know what it's like when you're with a man who's already made you feel like leftovers, right? There was a comfort in being dismissed that does make me think the cross was onto something. And yet in the midst of all that, there was a dignity about the way she carried herself. And Wendy said, as a British and Nigerian woman, the amount of pain that she must be experiencing that I know she cannot speak to.

1:02:12 And as Wendy's saying it, we know Wendy's also talking about herself. It was impeccable.

1:02:19 Even the way Wendy walked in looking like that bad bitch and she saw Robert, she's like, oh honey, yeah, you think I was in the middle of the scandal?

1:02:25 I'm still here. And I still talk to my husband. Wendy is that girl.

1:02:31 Because we all thought Wendy was down. We were all worried that she was going to come on her tail between her legs. And unfortunately, Karen had to kiss the ring even though Wendy didn't move and hug her back. I love Wendy right now. I am praying that this season, number one, Giselle doesn't completely turn on Wendy just because Robert is back. Because I liked when Wendy and Giselle have a mutual understanding. Even as adversaries, I like their mutual understanding. I hope Robin doesn't derail it. Number two, I think Karen is realizing that she almost lost the audience.

1:02:57 So I want to see how she pulls it back while showing us her roster.

1:03:02 Justice for Ray.

1:03:03 And Tia, now that Tia can't be hiding in the ranch with them people trying to sell houses that can't be sold, I hope that Tia stays keeping us happy with her because she was such a huge disappointment last year. So for me, this season, this probably is one of the best episodes that I've seen as a premiere because sometimes Potomac starts off desperate. Sometimes Potomac gives us everything all at once to keep us. There's a slow burn that's happening with this premiere. That makes me feel like they might have some really good stuff in the tux.

1:03:32 So I'm excited. Nobody asked me.

1:03:33 Shout out to the producers.

1:03:35 The producers did that.

1:03:36 Yeah. Claudia?

1:03:37 I like last... I remember last year, we were like, damn, damn, damn, damn, every episode. It was like a lot, a lot. I just like Potomac. I really like it. Um.

1:03:48 Uh.

1:03:49 I'm looking forward to the season. And I feel like there's no one to drag the energy down like last year. Because it's not fun to watch all gang up on one person. It really isn't. It's not. I'm not interested in seeing that kind of show. And it does seem like there's a lot of equally yoked people on the same show now. That's what it feels like. It feels like everybody can hold their own in their argument. It ain't going to be like someone just getting totally read down and annihilated while the other person just sits there looking stupid. It seems like... Everybody's on something. Don't stop.

1:04:18 None won't be none. And if there is some, I'm with it. I'm ready. So, yeah. What was the question?

1:04:24 No, no, no.

1:04:24 I was going to say the comment because one of my... First of all, great premiere. One of my favorite moments that I want to talk about before we end is Wendy and Giselle. Love the moment. So, Wendy said that, no, Giselle, you and Robert were talking about it on Reasonably Shady and about her situation that she is going through because Giselle made a comment that because it's a real thing that Tia's going through she don't want to talk about on her podcast and and Wendy clocked the irony in that Giselle said you're trying to act like you're innocent but you're.

1:05:01 Not now that's fine words to me this is a very serious situation in Wendy's life and that is like That's what people take issue and umbrage with Giselle for all the time, right? Which is going too far with shit. Going too low with shit. Going just too far unwarranted.

1:05:22 Like, why would you say that to this.

1:05:25 Woman who is in the throes of a real, actual, legal battle right now that could impact whether or not she's at home to be a mother to her kids?

1:05:35 Why are you doing that? You know what I'm saying?

1:05:37 Ain't nobody said nothing about personal matters in her family, right, that have been made the news lately. We haven't seen nobody question her about that. Is that coming this season? Like, to me, it's just the willingness to go too far. And as a person who already told y'all, I think sometimes it is a time to cut somebody the fuck out and take care of your business. You go low like that with me, nine times out of ten, I'm going to return serve.

1:06:01 You know what I'm saying?

1:06:02 And I just, I thought it was low for her to say that to Wendy. You over there acting all innocent, but do you want me to go to jail? Do you want me to suffer for years like that? No matter what you think about me, you've been around my kids. How many years is Wendy's what? Wendy came in season five. This is season 11. You've been around me all that many years. You don't give a fuck about my kids that you didn't watch and get bigger and shit.

1:06:30 What do you mean?

1:06:31 And why is that now fodder for the show? We're going to discuss the case. There's a way to discuss it with some respect. And to me, that just took it all.

1:06:40 The way there.

1:06:43 Unfortunately, on these shows, a lot of times, in the heat of the moment, they don't give a damn about none of that. And unfortunately, it sucks because it is affecting your real life. And people will say things that are so cruel, so mean. They'll know your triggers. They'll know what really hurts you, what's heartbreaking to you, and they'll use it. And that sucks because... Then you're torn between, I want to be vulnerable and be a good reality star.

1:07:07 The cat is just like, you're going to see this apple.

1:07:11 I've seen your cat's booty.

1:07:12 Hole four times. The cat is like, look at her. Look at the butthole. More booty hole.

1:07:16 Oh, my God.

1:07:17 She is like.

1:07:19 Seriously. Claudia, get your pussy under control.

1:07:21 Right. It's in heat.

1:07:23 My pussy do what it want to do. Okay.

1:07:25 That's the theme of the episode, Claudia.

1:07:28 To be honest, that's the theme. I do what I want.

1:07:33 It's the theme of the episode.

1:07:35 She wants attention for like two seconds.

1:07:37 Okay. Your pussy won't stop moving, Claudia.

1:07:39 I know.

1:07:40 Open ass.

1:07:42 I'm a tiny dancer.

1:07:45 Yeah.

1:07:45 Yeah. They said they, they, I mean, yo, a lot of these shows are very, they can be damaging. You know what I mean? And they don't, they don't be caring about none of that stuff, unfortunately. Until it's them. Then they care. Then it's, oh my God, I can't believe you did this to me.

1:07:58 That's why Candace told you to yell up on Twitter.

1:08:01 Right.

1:08:01 Y'all seen what Candace Dillard said about Giselle's situation with her dad. So unfortunately, you know, Giselle was in court.

1:08:09 About her dad's will or whatever.

1:08:10 Yeah.

1:08:11 He left it to the lady that he was married to. And then if it didn't go to her, she passed her something that was supposed to go to his sister-in-law, which I would like a little clarity on that. Is that one of his brother's wives or is that his wife's sister? I wonder who the sister-in-law is, right? Because that kind of takes it a different direction as well.

1:08:27 But Candace Dillard got online. Somebody asked her about something about Giselle's situation. They said, I bet Mama Dorothy, somebody tweeted. They said, I bet Dorothy would never do that to Candace. And Candace was like, well, no, because our mother likes us. She was like, yeah, she would leave.

1:08:45 Stuff to us.

1:08:46 I'm saying, you're talking about you not innocent.

1:08:49 But see, you put yourself at risk for stuff like that when you do stuff like that to other people unwarranted.

1:08:58 And I felt like her.

1:08:59 saying to Wendy, you over there trying to act like you innocent, but you not. That was an example of why you're now subjected to shit like that from Candace.

1:09:08 You know what I'm saying? That's what you get.

1:09:11 Candace is karma on that show, even when she's.

1:09:13 Not on it.

1:09:14 That's what you get.

1:09:22 Well, reap what you sow. You reap what you sow.

1:09:26 Okay, doesn't have to get that out of that note. We all enjoyed the premiere. Next week, I mean, this coming Sunday, we will see the continuation of what Tia reveals because she did let us know at the cliffhanger that yes, she did ask her husband about the dating apps, and he said, yes, he was on it. So, we'll get to find that out this coming Sunday. So, Raindrops, let us know in the comments your thoughts on tonight's episode.

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