HYPOCRISY & BRON-SH*T | RHOSLC Recap with Monica Garcia

0:03 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

0:42 Hypocrisy and bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Hypocrisy and bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Hypocrisy and bullshit, bullshit. Bullshit, hypocrisy, and bullshit.

0:59 Bullshit, bullshit. I'm bored.

1:08 First of all, listen, they may be called the Glab Kittens. We are the Pussycats.

1:15 Yes, baby. Kitty, kitty, purr.

1:19 Purr.

1:20 Yes.

1:20 Marlo is now the Pussycat Podcasters.

1:24 Ah! I love it.

1:27 So, Raindrops, I'm telling you, if you're listening to this, join my Patreon, Carlos King's Patreon, so you can see Monica and I are giving Meredith and Lisa tea with hypocrisy and bullshit.

1:43 And. That shit is catchy as hell, honey. That is a new bop, okay? I can't even be mad at it. Drop it like it's hot. Ay, ay, ay, ay, baby.

2:00 Monica, what do you think about this track?

2:05 It is so good. I'm not kidding because, let me tell you, what makes a good song... Is the fact that it's true. And the way. That is everything you need to know. To sum up that group. I love it. It is so accurate. It is so freaking catchy. Look. Some of the greatest songs in history. Were like one word songs. Like truly. Where you're just like saying it over.

2:35 And over and over again. That is this song. They did exactly what they meant to do.

2:43 Yes.

2:44 That moment was the standout moment of the episode. The song is streaming. It's on my TikTok for you page. It's on my Instagram app when I open it. I'm serious.

2:59 I know.

3:00 I'm telling you, it did exactly what they wanted it to do. When Meredith said, hey, we've got a hit.

3:09 Yep. Yep.

3:12 It's a hit.

3:12 So Raindrops, in case you haven't noticed, we are recapping the latest episode of Salt Lake City Housewives. This episode is going to be different. Listen, my girl Monica's booked in business. She has a lot going on and I could not have an episode without her. We may only have her for a short time, but baby, it'll be worth the wait.

3:29 So Monica, you tell me when it's time for you to go. You can go and I'll see if I have to.

3:35 Okay. Okay.

3:36 Listen, the thing with this episode is Yes. Let's get into the stuff that I know I need your opinion on. And by the way, we will be wearing our Pussycat Podcasters look.

3:49 Yes. This is the vibe for the foreseeable future. Hey, honey, I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. You look good, bitch. You look fucking good. You look the fuck good.

4:07 Hanukkah, you look good with your fur on, too.

4:09 Girl, I had to show up for Salt Lake, my girl, you know?

4:14 Yes, show up. Yes. Did we talk about, wait, last week, before we get into the recap.

4:23 Yes.

4:24 Did we talk about.

4:25 How Meredith mentioned she loves listening and watching our clips?

4:33 Yes.

4:34 We didn't know because I think that came out after we had already recorded.

4:41 So, Raindross, Meredith Marks did an interview with Danny Pellegrino, and he asked her, like, have you seen Monica? And she was like, no, I haven't seen Monica since we were filming, but I hope she's doing well. I do see her recapping with Carlos Kidney, and she goes, and I quote.

5:01 I must say... I enjoy it.

5:03 That was amazing. That was, yes, Big Mayor. Yes. We love it. Yeah, that was awesome. That was awesome.

5:14 No, that was cool. That was cool. That was cool.

5:16 So, you know, I wanted to make sure that, listen, Monica, we are campaigning. Just so you know, the raindrops, the snowflakes, the fans, we, I feel like there's something in the air.

5:29 Venus retrograde, honey. Venus retrograde in Scorpio is bringing out all the past, baby. She's resurfacing.

5:37 Yes. Yes. That's what's happening. So let's get into this episode.

5:41 The two main things I got to talk to you about before I let you go is that.

5:49 Okay.

5:50 Hey.

5:51 Brahma's boyfriend, Brandon, came on the trip.

5:58 And I wanted to get your thoughts on this because I wanted to know, as you saw them on camera for the first time, did you feel some chemistry? I mean, listen, he's a gorgeous guy. You know, listen, you've been very vocal about a gay paid actor. So I wanted to ask you, now that you've seen Bronwyn and Brandon in the same room together, Do you feel the chemistry, the love, the lust, the attraction?

6:31 What are your thoughts?

6:33 No, I think that he and Lisa Barlow had more chemistry than he and Bronwyn. He came in the room and Lisa Barlow was like, Brandon, oh my God. I love your cheekbones. I love them. And he was like, oh my God, I love yours. I'm like, okay. That little five second interaction was more chemistry than any of the scenes I saw with him and Bron Bron. Okay.

7:04 Yeah.

7:04 No.

7:05 And she, she, if anything, it just confirmed, like, it seemed weird. She seemed weird around him. Like when she was talking and she couldn't stop and she was like, are you okay? Is everyone being nice? Are you good? Like that was the most kind of frazzled I've seen her. It was almost like, have they figured us out? Have they figured us out? But what did you think? Did you, what did you think? Okay.

7:39 Yeah. He's hot to try. The motherfucker looks good, right? He's a handsome guy. One thing about me, I'm honest, right? Yes. It definitely gave... Okay.

7:57 I'm going to say this and please guys, don't run with it.

8:04 It gave what I would give Bronwyn if me and her were in the room together.

8:08 You know, it gave, like, you know.

8:14 Yes. This is, whatever, my friend. It gave friends. It gave friends.

8:19 Yep, yep.

8:20 And listen, everyone knows that from the current cast of Snowflakes.

8:28 Yes.

8:29 The current cast of Snowflakes, okay? Everyone knows that I'd go up for Lisa Barlow. So when you mentioned how.

8:39 He fawned over Lisa Barlow.

8:42 And her cheekbones. Her cheekbones.

8:49 It gave something that I would give in that moment myself.

8:56 If Lisa Barlow said to me, Barlow's, oh my gosh. You have great cheekbones. I'd be like, bitch, so do you. Yeah.

9:05 Oh my God, so do you.

9:08 It gave, you know, it gave like what a lot of men who watch the show would do.

9:17 They met Lisa Barlow. And I'll leave it at that. It gave that to me.

9:20 Yeah.

9:21 No, I think it was also very telling that When they showed the clip of Bronwyn saying when she accomplishes something, she buys herself something nice. And they said, well, what did you buy yourself for this? And she said, Brandon. Yeah, you sure did. You sure did buy that, didn't you? You bought that experience, honey. It's like that movie, The Wedding Date. For real.

9:51 Yeah.

9:52 And he played his role well, just like Lisa Barlow said. He looked good. He was charming. She said... he knows how to work a room. You know. They're not together anymore. So we're allowed to say whatever the fuck we want to say about this.

10:08 And it's facts and it's facts and it's facts because they're not together anymore. And it's one thing to not listen. It's one thing for a relationship not to work out.

10:16 It happens. Yes. It happens.

10:19 But watch what happens live. When Andy did ask how's Brandon, she responded with who?

10:24 That was 10 boyfriends ago.

10:28 Yeah, so it intimated that, was it a bad breakup? Did the invoice, you know, not clear?

10:34 Was the contract up?

10:36 Did he just not like being famous? Like, these are all the things that people are speculating. But I got to be honest, seeing them in action.

10:46 Yes.

10:46 I didn't feel they had any action when they're alone without cameras.

10:52 It gave.

10:54 And it's so unfortunate because, you know, what's happening now on reality television is a lot of people accusing, you know, the housewives of bringing.

11:03 On paid boyfriends.

11:05 It gave paid boyfriends so much so he was referred to as a sex worker in this episode.

11:17 I didn't say that. They said that, right?

11:19 Right.

11:20 The girls are accusing Brandon of being a sex worker.

11:24 On Todd's dime.

11:26 Yeah, that Todd paid for the trip.

11:28 Yeah.

11:29 Brandon's blouse. Baby, that blouse was everything, bitch. That disco blouse. I said, honey, yes, bitch. Honey, I said to Brandon, honey.

11:43 Yes.

11:44 Yep.

11:45 He looked the best out of all of them. Let's be honest now.

11:52 I got a few dollars if you want to go hit us up hit us up just saying so the thing is this the thing is this what do we think about the fact that okay Bronwyn is in San Francisco she is throwing the disco party at the hotel all her friends are there And look, Lisa and Meredith decided to perform this diss track, Hypocrisy and Bullshit.

12:28 It's going platinum, yeah.

12:30 It's going platinum. And bitch, Bronwyn was not happy. She kicked them out, not once, but twice. And they're saying to her, the song is not even about you. What was her take on that whole debacle? Because do you feel that Bronwyn was justified because at the end of the day, it was her party?

12:57 No. But let me tell you why, okay? First of all, first of all, I think the entire group is absolutely blowing this out of proportion, right? I think that it wasn't that deep. It wasn't that serious. I think to say hypocrisy and bullshit is probably one of the nicest things that we've heard these women say. I think that Lisa and Meredith made it very clear. They're not talking about one specific person in the group. They kind of blanketed it at all. I also found it so comical that...

13:43 Heather Gay was like, you know, this is a mess. It has, like, this car wreck appeal. Like, I can't look away. Like, bitch, that's how we feel looking at your botched ass every week, bitch. Like, what Heather Gay are we going to get on the screen right now? Okay? We have to stare at your nasty ass tracks showing in every freaking thing. We have to look at all of that. Bitch, you're the car accident that we can't look away from. And you have the audacity to sit there and say that they're a train wreck? Look. It was very, very telling to me that the division in this group that you and I talk about every single week is getting deeper and deeper and deeper when Bronwyn, in my opinion, she should have got up and she

14:36 should have been the one to take the caviar bump And just rolled with that motherfucker. She should have just licked that bump. Fist in the air. Hypocrisy and bullshit.

14:50 Bullshit.

14:51 She should have just not even let it phase her. She should have been like, touche, bitch. I sent you to a sex shop because, you know, I wanted you to feel uncomfy. And I wanted to stick it to you. And you're coming back at it. That's what you guys do, tit for tat, right? So I think that it was blown completely out of proportion. I would have loved to seen Bronwyn laugh it off, lick some caviar, and.

15:27 Been more preoccupied with Brandon. If you're happy, bitch, and if you're getting dicked down, you ain't giving a shit about some little hypocrisy and bullshit talent show performance. Like, what? She's clearly looking to jump into that victim role. And she went headfirst all the way in the deep end And if that's the worst thing we've seen on Housewives, goddamn Bronwyn, you got it easy, bitch. Let them throw you out at 3 a.m. in a foreign country out of a mansion, okay? You are just fine. I'll trade you and I'll take a hit banger song about hypocrisy and bullshit any day of the week. And I think a lot of other housewives would trade with you as well.

16:23 It wasn't that serious to me.

16:27 That's what I thought. Okay, so I wasn't tripping.

16:29 The thing is this, when they did it, I thought everything, first of all, tens across the board in terms of your response, because I felt the exact same way.

16:40 I thought like, Why?

16:42 And, you know, and listen, you and I, not always, you and I disagree sometimes, right?

16:48 We do. We disagree about Bronwyn herself even.

16:51 Yes, exactly. I love Bronwyn, right? And I don't know when Bronwyn got the stick up her ass.

16:59 I'm like, you used to be like chill, but also like was in on the joke. And that's what made you likable. And once again, once again, once again, Social media ain't the real world, so I'm not going to say that it is because it's not. But Monica, a lot of people online are like, not even a lot, all of the people online are not feeling drawn in this episode.

17:25 See, I haven't had a chance to get online and see. I usually like to see the vibe. I haven't had an opportunity to do that. I watched the episode today because I like to have it be really fresh. And so I haven't had a chance to jump online, but that's very interesting.

17:43 The vibe check is you are clicking down bad. What happened to you? You used to be our favorite. I don't get it.

17:55 Team Lisa and Meredith, they were having fun.

17:59 So when I was watching it, I'm like, just get up and take the mic and part. The song wasn't hypocrisy and brawn shit.

18:08 You know what I mean?

18:09 That's clever.

18:12 Jamie, that's our episode title. So the thing is- Yes, yes.

18:15 That's clever as fuck.

18:17 It wasn't that. And a hit dog will holler.

18:22 So in that moment, because you know, I like to watch these episodes as a viewer.

18:28 Yes.

18:29 Producer brain always creeps in. So of course I'm like, Bronwyn, are you looking for a moment?

18:36 Obviously. Look, let me tell you. She was more upset over hypocrisy and bullshit than she was gout dick sucker. What? What? Because that is a far worse insult than someone singing hypocrisy and bullshit You could have played that off and you could have brought that shit up next morning at the breakfast table. Like a real lady over tea and biscuits, bitch. Okay?

19:08 Wait for the right moment. Roll it out through the night. Act unfazed. Enjoy your night with your man. Go get some little chitty-chitty bang-bang. And then in the morning at breakfast, when you're gathered with the family, that is the time for inappropriate talk. Like a normal person. And I would have loved to see that versus her completely having a meltdown, freaking out, saying, get the fuck out. And her ending up ultimately leaving over some little cheeky disco banger. You know, it was weird. It was weird. Maybe something else was going on. But, um. yeah, they were, they all were acting like that was the most, like, that's where you draw the line, bitch. That's where you guys want to draw the fucking line. This is too far. This is

20:03 too much. This is, it's the same thing, bitch. It's the same thing with me. a fucking little tiny 5,000 follower Instagram page. You guys want to draw the line, but like, you know what I mean? It's the same thing. It's weird.

20:19 It was weird.

20:20 And you hit the nail on the head in the sense of, you know, when, listen, we know, well, I'll speak for myself, right? I know, obviously, that Heather's jealous of any cast member on that show that she can't control.

20:36 Any and all. Any and all.

20:38 Okay, so for her to sort of lead the charge for Bronwyn to be like, let's just go.

20:47 This is your party. How dare they do this at your party?

20:52 And it's like, to your point, there's been worse things that has happened on this show. It was a funny comedy bit. Heather got the other girls to, like, follow her lead. And what was so interesting to me, like, they all walked up and left instead of, I mean, except, excuse me, Ashley Qua.

21:10 Qua, whatever. You know. Qua.

21:13 Bitch.

21:13 Yeah.

21:15 Qua. That's kind of cute, though. That's actually really cute.

21:22 None of the above. Yeah. That's why I call her ass Ashley. It's easy to remember.

21:28 Yeah.

21:28 Ashley is easy.

21:30 Ashley was sort of like, what is happening?

21:34 Ashley looked lost in the sauce. Like, she didn't really know. She was in the middle, for sure. Yes.

21:42 And was like, I'm going to sit here because it ain't that serious. But also did something that I would have done too.

21:48 Like, okay. Do you think you should have done it at her party?

21:52 Like, to me, that's an honest question based on seeing Bronwyn and the girls' reactions. But when it comes to Heather, I feel like Heather's desire is to recruit as many people on her side as possible.

22:09 And Bronwyn, the sad thing.

22:10 Like a real narcissist, honey. Like a real-ass narcissist. Go gather your flying monkeys. You want to know who the narcissist is? Look... who is isolated and look who has a following. Okay. I'm just going to say that. And you know, she, she did exactly that because Heather thrives when she can make it this big ordeal, but it's not about her. Oh, this is big, big, big, big, big drama. This is the scene we're making history. Oh, we did that. We worked today, honey, but it's not about me. And that is where she thrives. That is where she rides, right there. For sure.

22:53 Yeah, no, 100%.

22:55 And that, look, Brody is even like, what's going on with her?

23:01 Called out Brody. So the thing is this. One thing I know for sure is... I'm not sure if Bronwyn. Knows her place on this cast. And she's trying to figure it out.

23:22 And it was so evident based on her reaction to it. It was also just based on how she handled herself on this trip.

23:32 Like, this is your trip. Like, even when she got.

23:34 Emotional and she was talking about how her life was in San Francisco when she was with Todd, but she loves who she is now, but she.

23:44 Also wishes she could have.

23:46 that's the foundation of her life in San Francisco with her new life.

23:50 And it's sort of like, who are you?

23:54 Like, I feel like she's so confused about, you're confused about what life you want. You're confused about what man you're attracted to. You're confused about which friendships you want to be friends with. Even doing the dig at Britney at the end, Britney could have took that left when she was like, the song wasn't about me, it was about Britney.

24:14 Britney, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.

24:17 Brittany could have taken that as a dig, too, if we wanted to be fair.

24:22 Yeah, it's like you're sitting there complaining about someone making digs at you while you're standing up there announcing in front of the room, just like Lisa and Meredith just did, right? Insulting someone else. You're literally doing the same shit, which is exactly what the song is written about. Hypocrisy. And it's bullshit. That's like exactly it. And I thought it was funny that you pointed that out because that part on the boat where Bronwyn was crying about that. Yeah, it just felt, I don't know what it is. It didn't sit with me either. And I think maybe that is what I'm picking up on where it's kind of like, I don't know. Like, are you the girl that buys $ 4 million necklaces? Are you the girl that just says

25:10 you buy $ 4 million necklaces? Are you the girl that commits crimes but has the, you know, evidence sealed? Or are you the girl that's never committed a crime? And, you know, like, we don't know. Nobody knows. And it's just like Lisa and Meredith said, they were like, wait, she had her childhood here? I thought she just had her adult.

25:34 Okay.

25:34 Wait, once again. Once again. We don't know. With Bronwen.

25:40 You know?

25:41 I don't think Bronwyn maybe knows who Bronwyn is. Maybe that's true. Maybe that's true. Maybe she doesn't. Wow.

25:51 I mean, there's a lot to unpack there.

25:53 And it's funny because this is what episode five, I think, or four or five.

25:58 Yeah, episode five.

26:00 Episode five.

26:01 And one thing we know is based on the interviews that the housewives have had, when asked who has the most to answer to at the reunion, Everybody said Bronwyn.

26:14 Really? Okay.

26:16 All of the housewives said the one person that has the most to answer to at the reunion is Bronwyn.

26:23 Well, I mean, girl, I can relate to that. Because that's what they said about my reunion.

26:34 This is how you are. Okay, one more thing before I let you have to go in five minutes. One more thing.

26:38 No, bring it on.

26:40 What were your thoughts.

26:41 When Heather and Whitney were talking and Whitney was informing her that she hasn't been happy for a while?

26:51 Oh, my gosh.

26:52 How she had a fucking Britney Spears moment where she shaved her head being 25 years old with two kids.

27:00 Yeah.

27:00 When she said this, I almost, I was shaking.

27:03 When she said, Justin raised me.

27:08 Yeah.

27:10 Bitch.

27:10 Let me tell you, I'm so glad. This is why we're such a good little Monte Carlo team because this and the Heather talking about, it's like watching a train wreck. Bitch, that's how we feel. Pulling out your piss stain mattress. You got us watching shit like that every week. But this was the other thing that bothered me so much was Whitney said, If I can't talk to Heather about this, who am I going to talk to? Literally anyone else.

27:39 Literally anyone else. Oh my God, Whitney. Anyone else. Anyone the fuck else.

27:49 Talk to Brandon. He's the listener.

27:51 Oh my God, go talk to Brandon. He knows about cheekbones. I think he would have some great advice for you, okay? Anyone else. Whitney, girl, if you ask yourself this again in the future, I want you to hear these words. Anyone else. Girl, please get away from Heather. What the fuck? Anyone else. I can't. I can't. I can't. But, yeah, when she said that, I was like, oh, fuck. Oh, fuck.

28:28 I said, this marriage. By the way, fast forward, we know she filed.

28:33 Yes.

28:35 But what made you think, like, oh, fuck? Why did you say that?

28:39 That was just, and you know I love my girl Whitney, and you know I love my man Justin. I love them together. I'm still hoping... I'm still hoping they work it out. Bitch, I don't know after that comment shit.

28:52 I don't know.

28:54 No.

28:55 That was icky. That was icky. I didn't like how it made me feel. It made me feel like raised you. What did you think?

29:12 It told me everything I needed to know in the sense of Listen, when Britney Spears shaved her head, she was so fed up with the paparazzi. She fell into a depression and she was crying.

29:28 Out for help.

29:28 Well, I don't think the paparazzi is the problem.

29:31 Well, no.

29:33 Bitch.

29:48 Bitch. First of all, I was not thinking.

29:54 That the paparazzi in Salt Lake City was like me.

29:58 That's not the problem, bitch.

29:59 That's not her problem.

30:01 No.

30:01 I think you are, first of all, you're hysterical. I think.

30:07 Whitney, listen, I'm going to say it plain. I'm going to say it plain, and I got to say how I feel it. Whitney, I'm sorry.

30:15 I love you.

30:15 I got to say it. Whitney had an affair in her 20s with a married man while she was married. They both left their spouses to marry each other. She had two kids by the time she was 25.

30:26 Yeah. She, obviously living in Mormon world and all that shit. Yes. Whitney had, just like Bronwyn, Whitney don't know who she is.

30:38 So when she said he raised me, Justin saw this precocious woman and a little bit naive and pretty much was able to sort of guide her and tell her what to do.

30:51 And she listened and she, and he was going on.

30:54 These global trips cause he was a global salesman and she's at home and she's with the kids and she was crying out for help. And then she got on television and you know, like she gets to go outside. She talked about being drunk at Bravo con and how that was equivalent to shaving her head at 25.

31:09 She doesn't know who the fuck she is.

31:13 You know, it's kind of a little bit giving me a little bit of how Angie sounded in her confessional when she was like, I just went along with Sean and now I have a voice. You know what? Let me ask you this as a producer. Are we going to get confessionals from the husbands? No. Okay.

31:34 No.

31:35 Okay.

31:36 No, I want it. We got it from John the first episode. But let's be clear.

31:43 John is still married to Lisa.

31:46 They're a team, right?

31:51 Yeah.

31:52 We're not getting it from... No, no. Okay. No, we're not getting it.

31:56 That would be interesting. No, 100%.

31:59 I want to hear their POV because....

32:04 On one hand, I understand what these women are going through, finding themselves.

32:08 I get it. I get it.

32:10 On the other hand, I do want to hear from the husbands. Did them being a housewife change your marriage? Did they operate differently?

32:19 Yes.

32:20 Could two things be true and you guys weren't able to sort of come to a middle ground and say, but at least we love each other. So let's figure out this newfound relationship. world we both live in, right? But no, when Whitney said that, that told me everything I needed to know. She is going to be like Ashley Darby on Potomac. Whitney's about to date these younger men and.

32:52 Lay it low.

32:52 Yeah, I agree. I mean, we're already seeing it with Bronwyn and how that's you know, playing out who knows what's going to happen with Angie. Um, it, it is wild. What's, what's been going on with this cast as far as the marriages and, you know, I, yeah, I really am still in shock. I really am over Whitney and Justin.

33:15 I think, I think it's crazy. I hope that they work it out. Um, but as far as this episode, I can't wait to see how this plays out. We are missing Mary. I personally, I've been missing Mary the last couple episodes. We need her.

33:33 She's back next week.

33:35 Yes. And she's getting them in line like she should.

33:40 She said, I'm disappointed in you motherfuckers.

33:43 And I can't wait to see it. So, Monica, thank you for taking time out to recap this week.

33:49 I love you.

33:50 I love you.

33:51 And as we end, raindrops, give it up one more time for the track that is out in stores right now.

33:59 Bitch.

33:59 It's a banger.

34:00 Bullshit.

34:01 Ay.

34:02 Ay.

34:03 Bullshit. Bullshit.

34:05 Bullshit.

34:06 Yes, baby. Bullshit.

34:10 Ay.

34:11 Yes.

34:11 All right. I love you, Monica.

34:13 Bye.

34:13 Love you.

34:14 Bye, boo.

34:15 Bye.

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