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SKI YOU IN HELL! | RHOSLC Recap with Monica Garcia

Donnerstag, 24. September 2026 · 1 h 03

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Reigndrops, Moni-Carlo are back to break down Episode 2 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City—and chile, Monica came with NOTES! From newbie Ashley entering the group and her surprising history with Lisa Barlow, to Whitney Rose’s apology tour and Meredith Marks saying “I’m DONE,” nothing is off limits. Plus, Carlos and Monica question what’s going on with Angie K., clock Bronwyn’s strategy, and debate whether this group is stuck fighting the same old battles. Is it officially time for an RHOSLC cast shakeup? Grab your snowflake, BayBEE, because the shade is BELOW ZERO! Tune in now!
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Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey, and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

Hey, Raindrops.

On today's episode of Reality with the King, Monte Carlo is about to talk about Salt Lake City episode two.

It's the best day of the week.

Okay, honestly, I'm loving the new schedule because this is like the best day to go into the weekend.

It's, like, something to look forward to right before Friday.

I like to call Thursday Friday Eve.

Yes!

I love it.

You know, like, on Christmas, Christmas Eve gets you all stoked for, like, Christmas Day. So I feel like for Friday, it's that. But first of all, speaking of stoked, bitch, you look good.

Thank you. It's giving 90s, right?

Yeah.

Like, she could be on Melrose Place.

Oh!

Are you a Merrill, sir? Yes.

90210, Merrill's Place, all the things, honey. Yes.

Listen, I am the love child of Aaron Spelling. Let's be clear. Merrill's Place is my shit. Heather Locklear, the whole nine yards.

Yes.

But no. First of all, Monica.

Baywatch, honey, come through.

We got to get to.

You, the 10 range mods. First of all, if you're only listening, head to my Patreon, okay?

Yes, Patreon. And Monica is giving, like, you know what you're giving me? What? J-Lo.

Goodbye.

Literally retire now. That's the dream, honey. She looks so good for her age, bitch.

Yeah.

She looks good for any age.

Any age.

She is snatched. You look amazing. So wait, it's the tan? It's the hair?

Yes, it's the tan. It's the hair. It's all the things. We're just... I'm in a crisis, bitch, so... I chopped my hair.

I stayed in the sun. I went lighter like our girl J-Lo.

Yep.

Well, first of all, I'm here for you.

You look amazing.

Thank you.

You look really good. We are going to.

Recap season seven, episode two of Salt Lake City. Let's get right into it. What do we think? I guess she's friends to the show, right? You know all of the tea because you live in Salt Lake City.

So I'm talking about Ashley Kwai.

Kwai with a Y is like how it's like.

How you remember it. Yeah, Kwai.

Right?

That's how she got everyone to remember her name. Hers is Kwai Y. Like, it sounds like Y, Kwai.

Okay, so let's get right into it because in this episode, we're introduced to her because she is Friends with Lisa Barlow and Whitney.

Stop you right.

Out the gate, honey, because let's clock this, all right? Everyone wanted to call me Jen Shaw's assistant, honey. Ashley, Miss Thing, you were glam. You were glam team to Lisa Barlow. I had no idea. They literally started out with Lisa introducing her by being on her glam team.

And then they showed pictures of, of her doing glam.

So please, we got to document that correctly because y'all want to call me Jen Shaw's assistant, honey, you better come out here and say Ashley was Lisa Barlow's glam team.

Okay?

Yes.

Did you not notice that?

No, I didn't notice that.

And that's no shade. That is no shade.

Okay?

That is no shade.

But I want it to be known right now we got someone else on RHO SLC that was on the squads of these women, okay?

I'm not letting that go untalked about.

Okay, okay, okay. Team.

Yeah.

All right. Okay, okay. So, let's get into her.

First of all, before we get into, like, her thing, because you just gagged me really fast.

So, Ashley... Is or was Lisa Barlow's glam? Yes, was. Was. Was she a part of her glam squad when you were there?

No. No.

Okay.

I know that she was hanging around Jen. Well, I don't even want to say hanging around Jen.

She was like around. She was in the circles. But I never actually met her.

I've never physically met her before. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. So was she also Whitney's glam?

I don't think so, but it sounds like she was her brother.

Okay.

Ashley's brother was married to Whitney's.

No, no, no.

Let me get this straight. This is some, this is some Utah shit, right?

Ashley's brother was married to Whitney's best friend.

Shari that passed away.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay, yeah. Yes.

So Ashley and Shari were sister-in-laws, and I think that's how Whitney and Ashley know each other, I believe.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yes.

Okay.

Yes. Is it true that, allegedly, right?

Uh-oh. Come through now.

That she was supposed to be a housewife and got demoted towards the end of the season?

I have....

That's how you know I'm trying to think of the right answer, because normally I'm quick with it.

Let me.

Let's be PC for SLC.

Yeah, okay. I can't, you know, that's how you know I can't lie. I can't fucking lie. I really can't. I'm just, yes, that's what I've heard. I don't know if I would word it.

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

I don't know if I would word it as demoted... Because you would know this, okay, from a producer's standpoint.

Do they actually really even decide?

It was my understanding they don't officially decide you're an apple holder or a diamond or a snowflake until the season plays out. They don't know what's going to happen with you. You're brand new. They don't know how you're going to be on camera. They don't know how are you even going to stick it out. Are you going to film six weeks and quit?

Yes.

So it was my understanding that you really don't know if you're a snowflake holder or not until the season plays out. Is that right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So the thing is, you try out and depending on how much you're integral into the storylines of the season, a decision can be made mid-season that, okay, let's hand her a main title, right? Or once they start getting footage and editing the show, then they realize, okay, is she housewife worthy for a myriad of things, whether it's storyline, personality, all of those things. And I, listen, when it comes to the Salt Lake City girls, they already have, what, seven housewives, right?

Bitch, I don't even know.

Okay, let's count. Lisa, Meredith, girl's about to say Jan. Lisa, Meredith, Heather, Whitney.

Angie.

Angie. Mary.

Mary.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they got seven housewives. So the idea of making someone an eighth. Yeah.

You got to be really strong. But I will say this. First impressions are everything.

Oh, I'm so nervous for your first. I'm going to see if we're on the same page here.

Okay, so I will say this. I mean, very honest.

And we'll get into the specifics of her personal story.

Listen, beautiful girl, right?

She definitely, to me, was trying too hard. It gave a little dehydration, right? It gave, I need to suck the H2O out of the fire hydrant in New York City and Brooklyn between, you know. You know, it gave a little, not thirsty, because thirsty is Jessel in New York City Housewives.

Ooh. It gave, no shade.

I love Jessel.

No, Jessel's gorge. Jessel's thirsty.

I love her and her husband.

And she had too many rehearsed reads in this past episode.

I haven't been watching.

But it's good. It's a good season. Jessel's thirsty. Jessel's thirsty. And because she does PR, she allegedly, you know, she has connections to make sure when you Google her, it's all good stuff. But I digress.

Oh.

Ashley, who I like... I do like her. I do like her. Ashley... Okay. Why? I do like her. But she definitely.

The moment I was like, okay, Ashley, you're trying too hard.

God, I don't know if it's our... If we have the same moment.

Okay. It was a moment... Okay, fuck. I think I wrote it down. It was... Oh, I know what it was. What does my husband do? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I guess he... You know what? I should know this, right? I don't know.

The dumb blonde, dumb housewife trope is tiring.

It's tired.

You know what your husband does. If you're unable to explain it, that's one thing. But to act like You don't know what he does, but you're obsessed with his nipples?

Get out of here. But go ahead. That's my opinion. Look, look.

We have to be as unbiased as we can. No matter what I feel for her as a person or whatever, if I think she's beautiful, if I think she's great, we are here to give our honest review of the episode.

And I was really. Like, damn, because it did come across as trying too hard.

And ironically, the moment for me that it came across that way wasn't the same exact moment, although that moment 100% was like, come on, girl.

Come on. I know you know, boo. But the moment for me was still in a confessional.

And it was the moment when she said, I was one of the first people to ever taste Vida Tequila.

Oh, yeah. And I'm like, Ashley, come on.

I love you, girl, but no.

And you know what?

I try to give a lot of grace because being new to this is hard. You're trying to step into this group that I don't know about other franchises, but I know this cast. And it is not an easy group to step into.

And they will ice your ass out. There is one girl.

That has made it a second season, and it's Bronwyn. Every other fucking girl that came on this cast.

Was kicked off, okay? So it is very hard.

Oh, my God. I never thought about that. Yes.

It is very hard to come onto this cast and stay and make it and da-da-da-da-da.

But it was... It was hard. It was hard for me because....

From things that I've heard, I would love to see her real self. And I think she was overcompensating, especially in confessionals, where people are like, there's a disconnect.

Yeah.

And, you know, again, this is no shade. This is just our opinions, and it could change. Absolutely. 100%. We just got introduced, and all we're saying is it felt... very forced. The nipple thing was weird to me, just.

Like nipple, nipple, nipple, nipple. And I'm just, that felt forced.

There were just a lot of things that I, I will say I did have a lot of people message me too, because she said, um, And again, Ashley girl, you got to get your story straight, boo.

This is advice.

I'm just giving you advice because this is where people start to fact check. She said in her confessional that she was married for five years, but apparently she got married in 2024.

So that was like, I don't know, but I'm telling you now, boo, we don't need another Rula moment at reunion.

Uh-uh.

When they're like, when were you married? When's your anniversary? What was the date? What was the year?

And Ashley, this is me looking out for your ass, bitch, because it's going to happen. It's going to happen, especially if you had beef with any of these women. They are going to come with your marriage certificate on that motherfucking reunion stage, honey.

So don't be saying in confessionals.

You were married for five years, but then you were married in 2024. Like, I'm just saying, this is the kind of stuff they will eat you alive for.

They will. They will. Let me through something.

They will eat you alive.

Housewives fans are gonna fact check you, bitch. So, you better get your story straight. So, she said that... And listen, speaking of... Not Jersey, Rhode Island, where you brought up Rue La La. She's also giving a little bit of Kelsey tease a little bit when she mentioned that her husband... lives in Florida 80% of the time.

Yes! I forgot about that. Yes.

It was red flags all over the fucking field because it gave me no.

Shade, Ashley, why, whatever. It gave... Okay. I'm not calling you a side chick or.

Because you're married, allegedly, although my girl Monica just told us you lied, allegedly.

About five years when you got married, 2024. Okay, I can add. Four plus, you know, that was two years ago. So, a man being in Florida.

Like Kelsey's boyfriend being in Florida, we all found out, courtesy of investigators of BravoTV.com fans.

Well, that's what my DMs are flooded.

That's how I find out.

And I was like, girl, as friend to friend, honey, let's get this timeline correct before.

They come with the receipts.

Because you already know this guy is going to do it for the sake of entertainment.

So that part gave me red flag like, huh.

Does your husband allegedly have a different life in Florida? And by life, does he have a different wife in Florida?

Could you imagine?

Are there kids in Florida? Is his wife in Florida?

Are you just somebody that he keeps in Salt Lake City to suck on his nipples upon return? Because your husband, listen, no shade. We all have our own type that we're attracted to. I saw the photos. I'm not excited to lick his nipples.

No shade. No shade. No shade. I don't see the appeal. But what are your thoughts on that?

Like, that was, when I say to you, that was like, oh shit, red flag here.

This is Kelsey.

No, it makes me mad because from what I know about her, she's amazing and she's fun and she travels and she's, she's funny and.

All these incredible things. And I, you know, I like her. I really do.

But for whatever reason, this episode, I don't feel like was good for her. In my opinion, she got shut down by Angie K real quick at the table, honey. Uh, you know, I felt like the confessionals were.

Uh, I just, I wish she would just be herself. It's giving, it's not myself. I did like that she's- Not.

To cut you off. No, go ahead.

Because I want to piggyback when you said be herself.

Yes.

And I'm not saying this because you're here. You know, my audience knows I keep it real. Yes. It felt that she watched Monica Garcia's season and said, I'm going to be her 2.0. That was my immediate reaction. Because hear me out. I do feel this way. You could disagree.

That's fine.

I've been watching Salt Lake since day one. The Salt Lake City Housewives, which works, by the way, it works. They're all kind of very mellow.

Yes.

You know, they're not like, they're not loud. They're not like spunky. They're very mellow.

They're monotone.

Very monotone. It's very like, John, what are you doing? You know, it's very daddy, right? Yes.

When she came on the screen like, I got the tea like a fever. I said, is Monica on the screen, right?

Like, wait, what?

The personality was so big. And I'm not saying that's not who she is.

I don't know this woman. We don't know her, yeah.

All I'm saying is it reminded me of your season when the raindrops forced me to watch it and said, watch this season, bitch.

It's this housewife you're going to live for. I said, fine, I'll watch it. Yeah.

It was your immediate personality that I was like.

She is nothing like Salt Lake City. So I felt that with Ashley. I felt Ashley.

I'm not going to say she purposefully studied you, but I definitely felt that she was trying to fulfill that spark.

Because even Bronwyn was great. Bronwyn is monotone too. Yeah.

She'll throw out a child every now and then. Although I haven't heard that from her. I haven't heard it yet.

But I agree with you 1 million percent because when I heard Vida Tequila, I swear to God, I swear I need to go, but I need to find it. That is a Jen Shaw. It was Jen Shaw to a T. I was like, she trying to be Jen Shaw because I swear in a confessional, and I swear this happened because I swear it went viral, where Jen was like, in a confessional. And so I think that's maybe what rubbed me wrong is I was like.

Jamie, find that for us.

Yes, find it. Because I swear I was like, she trying to be Jen Shaw. No. And I think that's where we got off on the weirdness for me.

Yes. Yes. Yes. So that's what it gave for me. But look, love the Prada hat with the matching jacket. Yeah. The potential of like.

You know, the house that's going to be, the location looks gorgeous.

So I'm definitely thrilled about that.

This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.

That's what I was going to say, not to cut you off.

I love that Lisa in her confessional, I love and hate it, but I love that Lisa in her confessional said... she's a real Cinderella to Khaleesi, Game of Thrones story, queen of the castle.

I loved it.

It was a double-edged sword.

Cause I'm like, okay, so you're good with people that have nothing as long as eventually they have this huge mansion and money and then it's okay.

But if you're still currently in your Cinderella.

Era, you know, But I do know that she does.

I hope we get into it. I think that we will.

I know that she does have an incredible story, that she really does come from nothing.

She lived with her mother. And there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff there.

Okay.

Listen, and like you said, and Tree, and we'll get to how Angie Kay shut her down later in the episode.

Yeah, we will.

By the way, Lisa Barlow, you know I love you. Ain't no mountain high enough is Diana Ross.

That was embarrassing.

It's not a Miley Cyrus song.

Did they actually correct that? No.

I was going to say, I don't even think that they corrected it. Like when they put it and then they exit out and put like the actual person.

I was shocked that they.

Didn't do that.

I think they probably figured out like 99.9% of the audience would be like, really, bitch?

Yeah, that's embarrassing.

Yes, Miley Cyrus sung Party in the USA and Flowers in addition to some other shit that is a little bit racy.

Okay, we got to get into your girl Whitney.

Uh-oh.

Okay.

Wait, before we do, I just want to ask you this.

Okay.

It's really quick, but I want to know if you caught this.

No.

Because of the drama going on with this housewife, Angie... The scene with the cookies and her daughter.

Yeah. Did you not think Elektra was, like, over her shit?

Yes.

She was, like, frosting that cookie, and she's like, stop. Tell me. They are over her shit, and it's very... It is a... What do they call that? A pre... Like.

Oh, well, meaning those little interstitials?

Yes, where it's like a pre... Oh, my God.

Like those little scene-lets?

Yeah, it's like a... It's like foretelling. Is that a word?

Oh, foreshadowing, foreshadowing. Thank you, thank you.

It was very, very.

It was a couple seconds, but so foreshadowing for what is coming with her storyline. And I just wanted to see if you caught that.

I'm going to tell you what I did catch with Angie Kay, or should I say lack thereof, this season.

Uh-huh. So far, it's only episode two.

I noticed that Angie Kay has nothing going on, and they're not showing her. She had no scenes for the second episode in a row. That's very problematic as a producer.

I did not catch this.

The fact that Heather Gay had Tripp in episode one, Lisa Barlow had her own personal scene. Meredith didn't either, but Meredith is involved in terms of like what's going on with Whitney. So her and Lisa Barlow had a one-on-one scene episode one.

Angie Kay is not there.

Ooh! Angie Kay, think about it. She had no personal story scene. The scene where her daughter was what we call in the business.

B-roll.

Not B-roll, yeah.

B-roll, bitch.

It was the equivalent of watching them fold laundry for two seconds in their house.

Honey, you know that's true.

It was giving that.

And it's interesting because remember, she would sit to a snowflake, um, last season. And you and I talked about this too last season. They kind of, I felt, they were kind of ushering her as like one of the stars of the show.

So to see the.

Downfall of Angie Kay where... Ooh, not downfall, honey. So far, it's like the downfall of Angie Kay. I'm not seeing her. She had nothing going on. So we'll get to that later in the ski trip.

Yes, yes.

So far, not so good. So go to Whitney. Because Whitney, I believe Whitney was on the chopping block. I will always believe that. I believe that. But she's my Libra sister. Happy Libra season, Whitney. She's giving the goods.

The fact that we learn, what's her husband's name, Monica? Justin.

Okay.

Okay.

The fact that we're learning in this scene with her and Justin that she is sleeping in the guest bedroom and moved all her shit up there.

Yeah. It's... Yeah.

And on top of that, she's really being transparent about her admission to coping with her problems by drinking.

What are your thoughts on that? Because... I always looked at Whitney as like the fun, young, hot girl. You know what I mean? Like the sexy, young girl married to the old guy. She's super fun. Look, all these housewives get wasted. No shade. Not all of them, but 90%.

So I never looked at it like it was a problem.

I'm like, they all get drunk.

But she's telling us that she feels like it's a problem for her.

But what I was... confused by, and maybe we'll get.

This later this season, is your coping mechanism affecting your marriage?

Like, is it the alcohol or is it something else that's there?

That, okay. Look, I love Whitney. I love Justin so much.

So unfortunately I have, I, you know, I am a little biased when it comes to that.

As you should be. Yes.

You know why.

But that scene felt very weird to me because.

I don't know.

It felt out of place. It felt like out of place. I'm not saying that what is going on is fake or made up or just a storyline. But it felt rushed.

It felt... Bitch, like... You want to know what it felt like to me? It felt like a pickup scene.

Okay, explain to the audience what a pickup scene is because I can understand why you feel that way.

Okay, so a pickup scene is you've been filling, you know, the whole season with everything that you have filmed. And then as the season plays out and storylines actually come to fruition, or maybe after you wrapped filming, storylines came out in the press. Very similar to what happened with Justin and Whitney's separation coming out in the press after filming had wrapped.

What do you do?

You pick up those cameras and you schedule a filming date and you film a pickup scene to put into the season to make what has come out after filming wrapped make sense and come together throughout the season. It felt like a pickup scene to me.

Was it? Maybe not at all.

But it just felt like, let's pick up the scene. It came out that they're separated. Okay, let's put you in the guest room. Let's do da-da-da-da-da.

It just felt weird. It was like, I'm going to the gym. And it was like, okay, well, can we talk?

I don't know.

I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not saying that what they're going through isn't real.

No, not at all. Yes, yes.

But the scene felt like an afterthought or a later than to me.

I definitely get your point with that.

It was.

Listen, one thing that's happening this season that I do appreciate is we're diving into their real personal lives, which I felt like, even in your season, you were the only one giving the goods.

Like, bitch, this is who I am. This is what I got going on.

And everybody else was phoning it in. So I do think they're not used to giving that.

Having the gift check. They're not used to having to share their fucking lives.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, no shade. It was.

Oh, that's all shade.

I mean, some of them have gotten away with it for fucking six, seven years of not having to do that shit.

It's giving.

Bring your personal shit or we're replacing you.

All day, which to me is why, look, I, the reason why the, I'll stick with Whitney. The reason why the Whitney storyline is jarring is because for the first six seasons, we've never even talked about or heard about her wilding out, like drinking or whatever.

Or them having problems.

Or them having problems.

Yeah.

Yes.

We knew that she was upset last season with the failure of her business and she blamed Justin for it.

We understood that.

But the separation that we know is impending in terms of the story that is coming this season, because like you said, we found out a few months ago after they wrapped filming that.

Yes. And now she's on this apology tour, which we'll get to that in a second.

So my point is, it's so much to digest because we weren't ever privy to any problems with her and Justin's marriage.

Yeah.

We weren't privy to her drinking too much.

It would have made sense if, let's say, for example, and I'm not wishing this on her, but hear me out.

Right.

If Meredith's storyline was, I cope with my reality by drinking, we would have.

Said, well.

Word on the street from these girls were, you do drink a lot. That you attacked Britney last season on the plane. So at least we would have been like, got it understood because we've heard this.

We've never heard that by Whitney. We've never heard her and Justin have problems.

So while I appreciate the personal story, I get what you're saying in terms of the conversation seems to feel like.

It came out of nowhere.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

And again, I love them. I will fight for them and ride for them all day. They are amazing.

I love them together. The separation is horrible. I hate it for them. But it just, it felt misplaced.

Can I just say this and I'll move on?

Say it.

Is there any housewife that's going to stay married? I just feel like.

Gorgeous and John.

I pray that they are like, they stay married. Because you get what I'm saying. Yeah, I sure do.

I feel like every housewife, if they make it past four seasons, they're getting a divorce. And there's a whole separate episode about why that happens.

And I have a theory.

Angie Kay's storyline will come up soon.

And we'll get into that.

Because I do feel like what I've heard, allegedly, about why they're divorcing.

Yeah.

I think that's a lot of the reasons why... Men are divorcing their housewife. But anyways. Yeah. The divorce story, I'm like.

I know.

It's just that. Okay.

I know.

Speaking of divorce. Yes. You know I love Bronwyn.

Yeah, I know you do. I know you do.

Let's talk about it.

Let's talk about our little meet cute. moment rom-com scene.

She's like, I never thought I'd find myself in a rom-com.

No, bitch, you put yourself in one. You paid for that. You wrote the checks to have it. You gave yourself a rom-com moment, honey. Come on now. Those checks cleared to Mr. Brandon. Take me ice skating and pick me up and spin me around. Here's your check, boo. To the bank. Paid for by Todd. Tell me I'm wrong.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Listen, listen, listen. Okay. Disclaimer.

I love Bronwyn.

I am team Bronwyn.

Yep. But I'm also, the hard part about this job is, is you just got to call shit out the window.

You have to. And they get mad at you, but you have to.

Oh, it's fine. I'm so over them being mad at me. Yeah.

Okay. Now, I will say this. You and I were the first podcasters... to call out, like, oh, bitch, Broadway is setting up her divorce with Todd.

It was, you and I both said, and we screamed and said, bitch, are you picking up what she's dropping?

And when that divorce came out at the reunion, we said, bitch, we ain't surprised.

We sat there ungooped and ungathered, bitch. That was another Tuesday.

Okay. So, with that being said....

Bronwyn is one of the biggest hustlers I've ever seen.

And don't mean that in a bad way. You call it a hustler.

I call it a strategist. We have two different words.

Okay. You know what? I'll say strategist. That sounds much more like cleaner.

Bronwyn is the best strategist I've seen because Bronwyn said, hmm.

I'm divorcing you.

I'm going to get on the show. And explain why I'm doing it. And this is my meal ticket out of this motherfucking marriage.

Yep.

100%.

Okay. Then Brahma said, okay. The new season. I got to give something. She met this gorge 32-year-old.

I love the 10-year age gap. Come through.

Okay.

Who's like, this will make me marketable for modeling gear because nobody knows who I am.

Yeah.

And I do believe they had an agreement between each other. I did not get any sort of sex appeal from the two of them.

No. It was zero to me. Yeah. It gave mommy take your son to work day.

And I do believe strongly that Bronwyn said to Brandon, do this for a few months. It'll benefit you. It'll benefit me. And that was what I got from this scene.

He sat there somehow with a straight face with his lip filled lips and said, oh, my phone is blowing up with so many area codes about this relationship.

Bitch, he just told you. He just told you what he is there for.

Okay.

And then she was like, so- And that's no.

Shade to lip filler.

No, it's not. Listen, everyone gets it. No shade. Everybody, everybody. It's all good.

Yep.

The thing is, and then when she said, so how does that make you feel? the attention that this relationship is bringing you.

He said famous. It made me feel famous.

It made me feel like I am here getting exactly what I signed up for.

Yes. Tequila, tequila.

Tequila, tequila.

Everyone here is a paid actor this season.

We are all paid actors, okay? Season seven, come through.

I can't.

It was horrible.

I'm going to tell you why it's horrible.

It's horrible.

It's horrible because of this reason alone. And it's no one's fault but these housewives who do this shit.

You bring this man on the show. Yes.

Unfortunately, we already know that you guys aren't together and that you're messing with a PGA golfing man who is technically still married.

So the sad part is this.

With a nine-month-old baby. Wife's still very freshly postpartum, motherfucker.

Don't... Okay.

Yep.

Okay.

I'm going to take a look real quick, moving on.

No, the thing is this.

Because we know that this relationship isn't going to last.

We are not invested. We're not invested.

So, it's hard watching this scene. Unfortunately for the audience, it's so unfair to us. It's unfair to production. It's unfair to everybody involved because it's sort of like... Yes, reality happens, but fuck, are you, like, you mean to tell me? You, you, you, you're, the, baby, the ink isn't even dry on the divorce papers.

They're still married, yeah.

Y'all are still married. Mm-hmm. You meet this guy. I'm all about dating a bunch of people.

But you paraded this man around like he was your man, man, man, man, man.

Man, man, man, man, man, man, man.

You film with him this season. It's airing, and now we know y'all broke up.

It gives, to what your point is, paid actor. And that's unfortunate to the brand, the producers, and the work that people do.

And I love Robin, but.

I don't, but listen, she already went on Watch What Happens Live and said.

who? Who?

Who? And then we're supposed to sit here and watch you twirl around on an ice skating rink or whatever the fuck and believe it?

Next.

How did you feel when she said, um.

What?

What? I'm trying to defend you, sister, but it's hard.

When she said, it's hard to have a public relationship because I don't want it to seem like I'm rubbing getting Todd's face.

I don't, I can't get down with anything she says. I can't.

Straight down to where she was coming for Ashley and she was like, why, why would you wear that?

Any of that. Shut up. We watched you walk around in a hamburger skirt, bitch. Shut up.

Dressed as a whole ass labia for your entrance when you walked into the freaking show. Let Kwai, with a Y, live her life in her fur coat and hat. She wasn't wearing anything crazy.

I can't.

I'm mad.

I'm mad. I'm just mad.

No, it's okay. It's okay. Hey, listen. You have every right to be. I get it. I get it. I get it. I will tell you what also is cray-cray. What? Bronwyn, you told on yourself, sister. Uh-oh, what?

The paying allegations you did not beat when you said, and I quote, Brandon came in town.

I mean, Brandon... is here every.

Week now since they met, and she got him a hotel in downtown Salt Lake City.

Why? You got... Wait. You got him a hotel.

Thank you.

Which, translate, you paid for it.

Bitch!

What in the per diem is happening here?

I'm so glad you brought this up. Thank you so much, because she also said... He is not staying in the house that Todd built. What the fuck do you mean? We have not heard one time that Todd built that house. Not once. Now, all of a sudden, it's the house that Todd built.

It's unraveling so fast for me over here with this. Okay, fine. He's in a hotel. Are you not together? Like I got us a hotel room. Like, okay, you're showing respect. You don't want to bring him to the house that you and Todd rented when you got cast on the show.

Let's call it what it is, bitch.

So why didn't you, you know, out of respect, you.

Don't want him in the same bed in the whatever.

Okay.

But why were you both not in that? Why did she say it like that?

I got him a hotel.

Yeah.

Not that he got a hotel. And that's the thing, Raindrop.

Or us.

Or us. Or us.

You have to listen explicitly to what they're.

Saying because oftentimes they tell themselves.

And Monica and I saw a clip of the Salt Lake City housewives being interviewed. And the question was, who's going to be in the hot seat at the reunion? They all said Bronwyn.

Yeah, she's, yep.

You're in the hot seat, mama. And based on these two fucking episodes.

I see why.

Yeah. There ought to be two episodes. I'm questioning everything you're talking about.

You got over here, you got Bob the Builder Todd. You've got, I'm getting him a freaking hotel.

You got who you got. Oh, girl. Oh, I'm tired with her and it's episode two.

No wonder.

Yeah, no wonder she's in the hot seat.

Okay. We got to get to Brittany. Brittany's back. Yeah.

Is she though?

I don't know why she's there. This is no shade.

Is she though?

Why are you there? This is no shade.

No.

This is no shade.

I enjoyed Britney her first season, and I'll be very honest, I enjoyed Britney her second season, which was last season, only because Meredith allegedly attacked her on the plane. That was the only purpose that I had for Britney, right?

Yeah.

Britney needs to go. I'm not interested.

I don't believe that you were six months sober of no man.

Bitch, six weeks. Six weeks. Six weeks.

Okay. Six weeks. The thing is this, I don't need Britney anymore. That's no shame.

No, no.

It didn't work out the first two times. Why are you here?

I don't know why they did that.

Are you just.

I'm saying they, because like from a producer standpoint, why, why?

Is it because they think the audience just loves her corkiness?

Oh.

No, no.

I think maybe they thought, like, will she give us something else?

Listen, no shade. No shade. No shade. As a friend of, you're getting paid craft services. So I'm assuming. And that's no shade.

You know, no shade.

I mean, that's just fact.

It's fact.

Jennifer Tilly and Kathy Hilton are doing it for the fun of it and the exposure.

Exactly. They don't need the money. Like, this is like exposure for my other shit. Cool.

Something fun to do to fill my time.

Yes. Yes.

Yes.

A free trip to Italy, bitch? Why not?

Exactly. Exactly.

Yes. So... Britney, I don't see it.

Now, look, I understand they're probably like, look, she's free, shoot her, whatever. But I'll be shocked if I see her a lot this season. It was jarring to see her with Heather. Speaking of Heather.

Wow. What?

Wait, I don't know what you're going to say right now.

Okay, I'm only bringing this up because they brought it up. I don't like talking about women's looks.

It's not my thing. It's not my thing.

That's my thing, bitch.

Move.

Get out the way. I got it.

I got it.

What you need, what you got, what you want. I'll say it.

That scene between her and Brittany and Whitney was there.

Oh, the sandwich, the breakfast sandwich scene.

The breakfast sandwich scene.

Heather looks like a completely different person. It was extremely jarring to me. And I'm only bringing it up because she admitted to having a facelift. And that's the only reason I'm bringing it up. And of course, this season, they're talking about Meredith. By the way, looks amazing.

By the way, like.

Outward with it, which we love. We love that.

We love when they're like, this was the doctor I went to. This is the procedure.

Because as viewers, we want to know, who did you go to? Because I need to know who not to go to, Heather. And I need to know who to go, Meredith.

Okay? So, yes, we love when they come and they share all the deets. I love her for that.

That's a real housewife.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was jarring to me.

It was literally like watching Becky number two and Roseanne come down the stairs and you're like, where the fuck is the original Becky?

Like, I know how Becky look, bitch. Second Becky come down the stairs and you're like, wait, bitch.

Oh my God.

I know this show comes out weekly, but bitch, this ain't the Becky that I was watching.

Bitch, that might be my favorite thing you've ever said. Becky too? Becky with the good hair.

That was the name, Becky with the good hair.

The hair was good.

No, bitch, don't you dare because her ass is... Her hair is dusty, crusty, rusty, musty. Listen, she sat there talking shit on Meredith's wig. The motherfucking audacity.

When you're walking around with your busted extensions every fucking season, shut the fuck up about Meredith Marks' wig. You are the last person that should be talking about someone's weave.

Okay? Stop.

Becky with the bad hair. Okay? No.

Well, Monica has said it because that's her wheelhouse. Okay.

So.

Um.

We have a praise ski. Number two, a praise ski. I don't know if you remember, but during my season, it was in a praise ski.

Lisa.

Yeah.

Lisa threw in a praise ski event.

And it was, that was the scene when I was like, get your fingers out of my face.

Yes, that was that.

And we're at another, a praise ski, which kind of threw me for a loop. I was surprised that they recycled that.

Let's talk about it. What did you think about it? The whole apres ski situation.

I love that they actually went skiing. Well, I don't know if they did, actually.

We didn't actually see any skiing, but they put the skis on their boots.

And I thought it was weird. I thought it was weird that they recycled apres skis. Is that weird? Why would they do that production? Is that normal?

No.

Yeah, I thought it was weird. I didn't understand. like you guys have already thrown in a praise ski that's weird weird.

To me yeah unless it's something inaugural that just happens every year but no I agree with you that it was I wouldn't have recycled it. Unless, again, unless it's something like, this is the annual da-da-da-da-da.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, on Atlanta Housewives, Cynthia has the Bailey Bowl.

And.

But she says, like, y'all know my annual Bailey Bowl. Some shit's gonna go down, bitch.

And we've seen it season, season, season, season.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

This was, like, season four to season seven.

Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that confused me, too. So, the ladies are there.

And.

Look, Lisa failed.

And they're having fun, and they're looking at the outfits, and that's when Bronwyn made that comment about Ashley.

I thought she looked fine.

She looked great!

What the fuck do you want her to wear? It's a fur coat and a hat. The fuck?

I thought she looked good.

I thought she looked so good.

Okay, we agree on that, for sure. I didn't get that. And I'm like, Bronwyn, don't be a hater. Like, you can't be the... Like, Bronwyn... You're not the only fashion bitch on the show.

I think Ashley has fashion sense. So I'm definitely intrigued by the way she looks and the way she dresses.

I mean, I don't know.

It's also not fair when your bestie is a fashion designer and has access to unlimited resources to dress you.

Who's bestie? Bronwyn's. Bronwyn's Breastie, the fashion designer, Christian.

Oh, Siriano.

Yes.

Yes. You know what I mean? That's not fair. It's Ashley's first season. Let, I always say.

This, Real Housewives of Atlanta, my favorite motherfucking franchise, their first couple of seasons, they were showing up to.

Reunions in leggings and tunics.

Okay.

So I always say, let the first year housewife have her legging and tunic seasons.

Okay.

Let her get there. And she still looked great. She looked great.

I thought she looked great too.

It was a fucking fur coat and a hat. Stop.

I didn't, I didn't get the shade either. I was sort of like, don't be that girl. Like embrace another fashion bitch.

Cause I, I think Ashley's bringing that. Um, so listen, we got to get into Whitney's apology to her.

So.

Yeah.

So she's with Lisa one-on-one first.

And she apologizes once again, saying that she was coping with alcohol and And not trying to lose control of herself. Lisa says, you can't hold me to a bar you don't even have for yourself.

Yeah.

What are your thoughts on Whitney's apology tour? Is it based on her really wanting friendships with these ladies? Or is it based on, bitch, get along with these girls so that we can have a show about sisterhood?

I think both. Both. I genuinely think both. I think both of those can coexist. I think Whitney does have a good heart. She really does.

At the end of the day, when it comes down to it, she actually really does have a good heart. I think she longs to be in a good place with these women. I think she genuinely wants and needs these friendships. Look, Mary Cosby did an interview and she said it very, very perfect. She said, fame is lonely.

And there are only a handful of people.

It does. It makes you reclusive. Like you, yes, yes. It's very fucking lonely.

There's only a handful of people that can put up with it, deal with it, stick by your side through it and understand it. Those women for her understand it. I think at the end of the day, she genuinely wants those relationships. They have been through all this shit together. But I 100% understand where Meredith is coming from, where she's like, I'm not interested.

I'm not.

Because Meredith is done fed up. She is like, I am sick of this. And this brings me to my point. We are not getting anything fucking new with any of this shit. It is the same shit every fucking season. You guys say the horrible, worst things about each other. And then you're like, I'm sorry. And then you expect to just move on and do the same thing. It is, they are on a loop. They are 100% on a loop, which brings me to, We are in a loop of Heather and her virtue posturing while she's sitting again at a table with another fucking speech. We are laying down our swords. This is a sisterhood. And we are coming to get seven seasons of that shit.

Goodbye.

When you are the biggest B to these ladies.

I was also a girl trip. You literally attacked.

Talk about it.

You verbally attacked Lisa Barlow to show off in front of these iconic housewives.

So go ahead. Yeah. Yes.

You are clocking it. I literally put that in my notes. A hundred percent. We have the biggest culprit of the bullshit yet again with another fucking speech at another fucking table demanding apologies.

Yet again on behavior. You're going to continue in the next episode. Literally.

So it's just, this brings me to my, people aren't going to like this. It's time for a cash shakeup.

I agree.

We need a cash shakeup. We are stuck. They don't know what else to do. They've got nothing else. That's why they're digging deep.

And for the first time in almost a decade, We've got Heather bringing a boyfriend.

It's just, we are on this vicious cycle with this cast.

And that's fine. This is no shade.

It happens in every cast, which is exactly why they are interviewing new women every single season.

Bravo knows. This is what happens.

We get stuck in this place and they need to bring in new people to.

new people, old people, whatever, I don't know, fucking throw Jen Shaw in there to shake shit up.

I don't fucking know what you need, but we are in this place of, you know, I think Meredith's just like, I'm fucking, she said it. I'm done with the fiction. I'm done with the storytelling. And, you know, bitch, she said that right there at that table.

It's funny because, you know, I love me some Meredith Marks. I think she's great.

I love her, yes.

She's over it. Girl. And listen, to her credit, I wouldn't be mad at a pause.

She had the worst season last season for herself.

You know, I wouldn't be mad at her being paused just to like fall in love with it again.

Listen, I agree with you. I think what's going to be.

Interesting this season is It's seeing how things unfold. You are 1,000% right. Every single reality show.

Not just the Housewives.

Yes.

My own shit.

Things can feel a little bit redundant when you have the same cast members in season one.

Which is rare, by the way, in Housewives.

It's so rare.

And these girls have been on the same show for seven seasons straight.

And I.

The reason why it's hard to believe that Lisa... Let's be clear. Lisa is doing her job.

She's like, okay, girl. We can't fight forever. I'm not trying to get cussed out by production. Let's make up.

Lisa was the star of the episode, in my opinion.

Oh, 1,000%.

1,000%.

Like, for sure.

And I think Meredith... Not that this is a wrong or bad thing. I think, rightfully so, they have attacked Meredith. I think Meredith's over it, which is why I.

Think, like... I'm not saying she should be the only one. I definitely.

think that these girls are on a loop because.

It's bad, Carlos. When they fight hard, they cut to the white meat.

And it's hard for any human being to get past that.

For real. In real life.

Yes. Yes.

Which is what this is supposed to be. So Meredith sitting there saying, I'm not interested. Okay.

We have her saying, this is fiction and storytelling. That's real.

And that is what the fuck we want to see. Because in a real life situation, in a real friend group, in a real relationship, you're not over it like that.

I mean, you.

you've got people coming for each other's marriages. You're talking about people doing secret circle jerks.

Come the fuck on.

These are real accusations.

You've got Heather sitting on a reunion stage, accusing Lisa of how do you make your money?

Where is your money? I don't know what you do. You've you're throwing.

Around Jen Shaw accusations and we're supposed to believe Lisa's just over.

That and good fuck off. They didn't even get over a fucking burner page.

Come on.

Let's be so for real right now.

And then you have Heather also sitting there throwing digs at Meredith. Like her wig is too tight. She doesn't want to accept this apology. Listen, leave Moira Rose and her wigs alone.

Okay. She's being, she's the only one being real at that fucking table. Aside from Lisa. I'm sorry.

I agree.

She's saying I'm not ready to accept it. And that's real.

I wouldn't either. No! I don't hold grudges, but I definitely hold a memory. And I can be like, girl, whatever, but I'm not.

And I think the thing with Whitney, just because you were crying, I'm not believing her tears. And I agree with you about Heather trying to like, yeah.

It's like, girl, say the speech. Enough, enough. Like, enough. And again, Angie Kay just wasn't present.

They all fell. They all fell to the wayside.

I mean, I literally, Whitney, it was her moment to do this apology.

Even she fell off. You know, Angie was just, she got shut the fuck down. Shout out Lisa, man. She shut that. She was like, I'm good. I'm good. I don't need coaching. I was like, whew.

Yeah. Yeah.

But even when Heather was like, well, you called me a pill popper and a homophobe to Meredith on Tooth is in the Pond.

It was like, she didn't call you a homophobe at all. Like, what are you talking about?

No.

You're reaching.

You're reaching, mama.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's, I, Bronwyn even at that lunch felt really, she was like, she got her baby voice and she's.

Like, well, it just, you don't know how I feel.

That affects me and Heather.

That, you can't say how I feel. Like it was just, I, the, you know, look, the problem is.

It's the same fights on repeat And that's why you need new people to come in and spice shit up with new beef, new friendships forming, new storylines, new personal story. You need a new way of fighting. We're watching the same way of fighting. There is no one in that group, please correct me if I'm wrong, Carlos, that is a comic relief group. And that is what I feel like you're missing. Atlanta, that shit will be so serious and have you on your ass crying, laughing.

There is none of that. There is no one on that cast that's fucking funny. I'm sorry. Okay, Baby Gorgeous is funny, unintentionally.

But I'm talking about with the fighting, with the quick wits. There's no comic comedy release. And that's the piece that they're missing.

And I think... Perfect segue.

I think that's what they're hoping to get with Ashley is that she'll be this.

Yeah.

I think that they're hoping she'll be this comic relief when she was like cross-eyed and she's like, boom, bop.

Bam, bing, bop, bing, bop, bam. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

I think that they're hoping for that, but.

Yes. I agree with that. I agree with that.

And that's why when she came off so strong in the beginning, like, And listen, we'll see next week. They're in San Francisco for a St. Patty's thing, and they're getting into it. So to your point, I am curious to see what arguments arose, and hopefully it's something new.

It is something new. Because, yeah, you hit the nail on the head.

Yeah.

Okay. Well... Let Monica and I know your thoughts on this particular episode.

And again, go on my Patreon to watch the visual because Monica looks good, bitch. And I can't wait for you guys to see us next week. Monica, I love you, boo-boo.

Yes, I love you.

Okay, have a good.

Weekend, honey. Bye.

Bye, baby.

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