Sex Unlocked: Choke Me Until I Pass Out

0:00 Let's talk about sex, baby. Hello, my little sex pots. Welcome back to Sex Unlocked. Sally is looking gorgeous as usual with her Wednesday blowout. And I'm just still me. There you are. And you still look gorgeous. You're so nice. Dude, your looks for FanFest. I was drooling.

0:23 Virginia just does such a... She kills it every time.

0:26 So.

0:26 Every time. Fucking good. Every time. I think I need to hijack her. Oh my God.

0:32 She's amazing. She would love to style you.

0:35 Like you just every single look. I was like, I want it. I need it on my body. This is everything. Yes.

0:41 Honestly, like some of the, a lot of the things that I was wearing.

0:44 What was that? Ghost is calling me. What the fuck? I haven't talked to him. This podcast like summons him. It's so weird. I have not talked to him in like. a while I'm telling you every time we hit record he calls your phone this podcast speaks to.

1:03 Him yeah that that's insane I need to put my phone on do not disturb.

1:08 Oh god are you gonna call him back yeah obviously for funsies do it for the plot.

1:16 Exactly as I'm actively ruining my life it's fine we're doing it for the plot.

1:20 Still exactly we have podcast content to get baby Exactly. Can you tell us everything that you did at FanFest? Is it just like a mini BravoCon?

1:31 Yeah, it's a mini BravoCon. It was so much fun. It was a lot more laid back than BravoCon. There was like a lot of drama flying around.

1:42 Wait, really? Can you share? Yeah, it was.

1:44 Just on and also I haven't moved from this bed and since Sunday because I have a concussion. This is like the first time I've been like, communicating with people.

1:55 Well, did you fall and hit your head?

1:57 Yes.

1:58 What?

1:58 Yeah. Sunday night, Kyle's DJ set. I'm like behind the booth, like going crazy. And then I just, my chair slipped out from under me. I broke wine glasses.

2:13 But I stayed. Did he stop DJing? No, no, no. He kept DJing.

2:19 Like he didn't, he just kind of looked back and it was like a normal thing for him.

2:24 Did anyone rush to you?

2:26 My mother.

2:27 Well, that's good. My mother was there.

2:30 We were supposed to go home at like seven on Sunday and order sushi and have a movie night. And then that turned into Kyle's DJ set until 2 a.m. So my mom's like, I don't know how you live in this city. It's you go out and then we went out on we were out at 1 p.m.

2:49 On Sunday. Didn't go home until 2. I, Sally, I don't know how you do it. I will be wrecked. No wonder you haven't. So have you not left the bed because it's doctor's orders or is it like.

2:59 You just- No, like I physically couldn't. I was, I genuinely got scared. I thought I had a brain bleed. So I called, you know, a neurosurgeon I know. He's a neurosurgical resident. I called him at the hospital and he was like, you would have already been dead if it was a brain bleed. I'm like, okay, so I'm good.

3:18 So he was like, just stay in bed, low lights. Every time I get up, I'm dizzy and like nauseous. Okay.

3:25 That scares me.

3:27 I'm fine though. He said I was fine.

3:29 Okay.

3:29 Yeah. Jesus.

3:32 But it was really, I mean, it was really fun.

3:34 We did a watch what happens live panel with the Southern charm cast and then two of the captains.

3:40 From below deck. And. That was a panel. You said it was like a watch what happens live. It wasn't a panel, I guess, but yeah. Yeah.

3:51 Austin and Craig got into a fight at the end.

3:54 Like on camera? No, I haven't seen it yet.

3:57 And it's, it's funny because I've seen clips on TikTok and they're like, I had a dress on and I could, I felt like a T-Rex. Like I couldn't move my arms. I couldn't like lift my arms up to take a drink. So Austin was like on stage holding my.

4:09 Drink for me. And I was like sipping out of my drink.

4:12 And then at the end of the watch where I was live, Craig pulled me aside and we're still on stage. And so then I saw like a clip of Craig, like talking closely to my ear.

4:21 And everyone's like, what is going on here? Like, I'm so confused.

4:24 And then the boys were fighting about who's, Craig was like, you're jealous of me and Sally's relationship. And then Austin's like, no, you're jealous of me and Sally's friendship. And they were literally fighting over who was jealous of whose friendship with me. And I'm like, I just was like, guys, I'm just going to let them, I'm just going to let them handle this on their own.

4:44 So you didn't chime in and say like, I'm closer with Austin. Everyone calm down. Everyone knows that.

4:50 Yeah.

4:50 I mean, it's pretty apparent. Yeah.

4:51 Yeah. Everyone knows that I'm closer with Austin, but like I am really close with Craig. Um, and I just like not as close. Craig's just like so busy.

5:01 Yeah.

5:03 And me and Austin are busy together.

5:08 You guys are what we call here in LA, LA busy. Yes. Lots to get done.

5:15 Lots to get done.

5:17 Matchas to drink, cocktails to order. Matcha. I don't like matcha.

5:22 Dicking.

5:22 Okay. Well, that's why you live there and we live here. With Dunkin Donuts to get.

5:29 It just does something to me.

5:31 I bounce off the walls. It looks like it's about a thousand calories. It is. It is good for you.

5:37 Pumpkin spice latte.

5:38 Oh my God. You're next level basic right now. And I love it. So good. Wait, can I ask you when you were asked about your body count, were you offended or were you fine? Okay.

5:48 A lot of people are so mad about that online.

5:52 Yeah.

5:53 It's like, where is this girl? I want to find her, hit her.

5:56 You know, you find you. No, no, no.

6:00 The girl that asked the question, but honestly, like, And I'm not kidding you. A lot of the executives and stuff have been coming out to me. And even Andy, which I appreciated so much. I saw Andy after this happened and.

6:13 He was like, you answered it perfectly.

6:15 No one comes and buys these expensive ass tickets for FanFest to hear someone go, I plead a fifth or no comment. And he was like, basically, like if anyone has an issue with that answer, they have to come through me first. And I'm like, what was your answer?

6:29 I named him. name them she goes name them.

6:35 Yeah she literally goes what this is gonna be messy and I was like I love mess and then she goes what is your bravo body count and who was the best and I was just kind of like shocked my mom's in the audience she's like please please don't answer it I'm looking at my mom and I'm like Do you want me to name them? And then the whole crowd started going, name them.

6:56 Name them. So I named them. Good.

7:00 And then like, it was funny because after I named them, she kept, the host kept talking. And then I was like, oh shit, I forgot Shep. And I just see my mom go.

7:11 Oh my gosh. I was like, we can't forget people.

7:14 Well, I forgot Joe Bradley too, but he's sitting on stage with his girlfriend. I didn't want to be like disrespectful.

7:20 Who's his girlfriend? Maddie Reese. What?

7:25 From Southern Hospitality.

7:27 I thought Joe Bradley was dating Lindsay Hubbard. Was that a rumor?

7:31 That's Joe Bradley from Below Deck.

7:35 Wow. I've been spreading propaganda all over the place.

7:39 They were dating. I think it's done now.

7:41 So there's two Joe Bradleys on Bravo.

7:43 What are the fucking.

7:45 Yes. This whole time I was like, oh, on my podcast, Untraditionally Lala, I was like, she's gone for a much younger man.

7:52 Yeah.

7:52 Yeah. No. Joe Bradley below deck. Now I have no idea. Well, this changes everything.

8:00 I know, right?

8:00 Oh my God. I thought it was the guy from Southern Hospitality. I've been spreading lies. Oh my God.

8:09 That's so funny.

8:10 But everyone knows that Maddie and Joe are like, they are like end game.

8:15 End game. I love that. End game. Yeah. So you slept with him?

8:19 We like, he was the first guy I started dating when I got to Charleston or like talking to.

8:27 So it's not that messy. It was like way before he was even on TV. You weren't on TV. Yeah.

8:34 He apparently was, he was, he did his first season. I had no idea what Southern hospitality was, but yeah, I mean, that was, Shep was like five years ago.

8:47 Joe Bradley was like four years ago.

8:50 So this was like before you were on Southern charm. Cause you've only been on Southern charm three seasons. You said.

8:55 Yeah.

8:56 So this was before.

8:58 I love it. And you said Kyle was the best. I think it's the epic tea. It's the whole reason why. Can I tell you? I agree with what Andy said, where it's like people are spending their hard earned money to come here and have a Bravo experience. Like they want to have in person what they watch. And everyone is so open and honest on camera and we're watching them live their lives. And I've had this where I've had Bravo personalities come on to the podcast and I'm like, like, you don't get much from them. And I'm like, come on, man, give me, give me something. And I'm not the type to push because I'm also like, I know that feeling.

9:38 But if I do a podcast or an interview, it's like they're not like they're not asking me to come on to talk about like what my political views are. They're wanting like they're wanting Lala from Bravo. Exactly. Lala from Bravo, they shall get.

9:53 Exactly. So we have to show up.

9:54 And it's like I was doing a job this weekend. It wasn't like just like supposed to be, you know, fun. I'm also doing my my job with Bravo.

10:04 Yeah.

10:05 So I had to show up for the fans. But did you see what Kyle said?

10:08 No. Little fucker. What did he say?

10:13 Well, I'm over it now.

10:14 We talked it out.

10:14 But Madison sent me a screen like a tick tock. And they asked him, what do you think about Sally saying this and.

10:23 Blah, blah, blah. And he was like... About him being the best? No, no, no.

10:26 About my body... Naming my body count.

10:27 Oh, about your body count.

10:28 He goes, well, I'll just tell you, like, I definitely haven't been through as many Bravo loves as Sally or something like that.

10:34 And it was like a rude comment.

10:35 I'm like, motherfucker, I am watching you go home with random girls.

10:40 At least I know these people.

10:41 And where they come from. At least I'm keeping it in the family.

10:43 Yeah.

10:43 I'm like, what the hell?

10:44 And....

10:46 He got a little jealous. He was messy this weekend. He gets messy sometimes, but I live for it. I mean, I love Kyle. Did you hook up with anyone cool and fun? Guys, I woke up every morning alone. Good for you. I think it's great that you went home solo and like got your rest. Mm hmm. Even a mini BravoCon, I imagine, would be so exhausting. Like, beyond.

11:18 I don't even think. Yeah, I didn't hook up with anyone at BravoCon. You've never hooked up with Craig, right? Never even kissed him. Would you hook up with him if the mood was right, if the drinks were flowing and he was like, let me come home? That night, the mood was right on Wednesday. And I kind of blacked out. And the only reason I know that all this happened is because I'm friends with the bartenders that we were there till close. And they posted videos of me and Craig being like super cozy. And I really think that we just missed each other. Like we haven't seen each other in so long. So we were just like extra touchy.

11:53 And like close.

11:55 That is so fun.

11:56 But I don't think that I would.

11:58 I don't think that I want me and Craig are just like too close. I feel like I wouldn't want to make that. We have a good, balanced friendship. And I also just wouldn't knowing like the history with Craig and Austin and their differences.

12:15 Right.

12:16 I just don't I don't want to do that to Austin.

12:18 Right.

12:19 Yeah.

12:19 I think, yeah. Keep it.

12:21 I think they're like, I.

12:22 Can hook up with guys and Austin be like, whatever, whatever. But if I went home with Craig, it would.

12:26 Be like, just.

12:29 It was straight in your guys' friendship. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, good. At least we had that.

12:34 I mean, me and Craig had a great time.

12:37 Good. Catching up. Yeah. But yeah. I love having like a friendship where you're so comfortable with a dude that like, You could sit there for hours and like pick their brain about, you know, someone you're dating or seeing. Those are the best kind of friendships. I love it. My Bravo body count is grim. Wait, yeah, tell me. I hooked up with one person on Bravo. That's it. Season four, my first season on Vanderpump Rules.

13:06 What the fuck am I doing with all these Bravo people?

13:08 James Kennedy.

13:10 Oh, yeah.

13:10 That was it. And we were schwasty and very high on the ganja.

13:15 So what's wrong with me?

13:18 Nothing. Nothing's wrong with you.

13:20 I mean, this is.

13:21 Where I.

13:23 Spend the majority of my time on Bravo.

13:28 I think it's great. I'm not shaming you at all. There's nothing wrong with you at all.

13:32 I'm just wondering why.

13:34 Because there's a lot of cute men on Bravo and they have something about them that brings you in. And when you're around them, you have a good time. And then after you have like a few drinks, it's like, fuck it. Why not? Yeah.

13:49 Also I've like, I feel like it'd be easier to date someone in the same industry, like Bravo verse than not.

13:58 I agree. Cause they know the drill.

14:01 Yeah.

14:02 They know.

14:02 They're not worried about like the camera. They're not worried about it getting out. Like there is something that's very appealing when you think about dating someone who's in the same, industry that you're in because let me tell you I have found two types of men the ones who are little too are a little too eager to be on camera and then the ones who are like oh no I'm a private person like I'm not about it and I'm like I need to find someone in the middle who's like happy medium yeah yeah where it's like I don't really care if like you talk about me and like I can appear but I like I don't really care to be doing this and it's like all right I've I've found the happy medium.

14:38 Yeah it's really hard to find like and you know who's been barking up my tree who is my ex-boyfriend the one that would show up at my.

14:46 House no no no no no i know i know no the one the crazy one where you have to like get cops involved at times it sounds like a real bad idea i.

14:58 Think he was only like showing a little crazy vibes because he was not he was drinking he was doing drugs like stuff like that.

15:05 Is he sober now he's four weeks sober Wow. Four weeks. Good for him. No.

15:12 Four weeks is a big thing.

15:14 Four weeks is wonderful for him. But if he truly is practicing like sobriety in the program, we're not even supposed to date or have like sexual relations for a year. He's not doing that. Yeah. So just like let him do his thing.

15:34 Yeah.

15:35 I am proud of him though. It's amazing. I'm not knocking four weeks at all. That's great. I'm just saying for now, for you, I want you to protect yourself because the first year of sobriety, you're in a very vulnerable place. Oh yeah, for sure. Well, not that I would know because I black out every night.

15:56 I could imagine if you, I mean, I have a concussion.

15:59 I go downstairs the first night of my concussion. I start pouring a glass of wine and Riley, my roommate's like, no, literally no. Like you have a concussion. You cannot drink that wine. And I was like, I have no sleep, please. Sally.

16:14 No, you don't trust me. I know an alcoholic when I see one. Do you know your total body count?

16:24 Um like do you keep track I do in my phone it um but I think I haven't added like the last few I just.

16:32 Hit 30 okay like how long have you been sexually active when when did you lose your virginity 18 okay I was 17 17 maybe then I was consistently well yeah no I think 30 is good I don't think I'm over 50 That's good.

16:51 Guys, my ex-boyfriend was like in over 500.

16:56 That's disgusting. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. I think, I mean, 500. I mean, I think even me saying I'm over 50 is me like bumping my number pretty high.

17:08 Yeah, but he was also an addict. And I think he channeled all of his cocaine addiction and like alcohol addiction into sex addiction. Yes.

17:19 That happens. That definitely happens. Gambling situations happen. No, I think even me saying 50 is like pretty high, but there are, I used to keep track in my phone, but I'm a recycler, honey. Like I'm from California. So I will, I'm from Utah, but they recycle. I was recycling in Utah too. Men and actual like plastic and things like that.

17:42 That's all I'm doing right now. We have not added to my number in.

17:47 A little bit. Cause I just keep fucking the same people. Yeah. We go green. We're green up in this bitch. We are green up in here. Um, secondhand stores. Love it. Vintage.

17:58 That's right.

17:59 That's what we do.

18:00 Right.

18:01 But all like, um, go places and be like, Oh my God. Like a dude will come up and be like, how have you been? I'm like, Oh my God, I totally forgot. I slept with you. Yeah, that happens.

18:13 That's what happened to me on stage. I was like, I turned around and I saw Joe Bradley and I was like, oops, Oops.

18:19 Left you out. Remember that one time? Remember that one time? I'm curious.

18:24 Did you see that all the fans or like people in comments or whatever are being like, I hate this so much because they're like, Sally, Austin's just not that into you.

18:36 Like he doesn't like you. Leave him alone.

18:37 Leave this man alone. And I'm like, guys, it's not like I'm forcing myself on Austin. Their friendship is very much reciprocated.

18:47 Yeah, I mean, I know that. I don't get it.

18:50 And they're like, this is so embarrassing for her.

18:56 Like, he clearly is not into it.

18:58 And I'm like... And it's probably all women who are saying this, right?

19:02 Yeah, it is.

19:03 Women love to label other women as, like, desperate, needy.

19:08 Yeah.

19:09 All of these words that are like... What?

19:12 But I'm like, maybe Austin just plays a good.

19:16 something on camera and not like, cause if people like saw our DMS, they'd be like, Oh, it's very much reciprocated.

19:27 I mean, maybe it's cause I know you guys. So like, I know that cause I like see it and hear about it and all of the things that interview, didn't you and Austin do an interview with Chanel? Yes. This is the one that they're responding to. Oh, I didn't see the actual interview. I love Chanel though. She's fucking fabulous.

19:49 He was on the place of his life where he would want to be in a relationship because he feels he would dim my light. And I was basically like, we both were like, Oh, that's like very self-aware.

19:59 But I agree.

20:01 Like, I think that me and Austin are really, we would be a great match together, but like, he doesn't want to settle down right now and that's okay.

20:12 And I don't necessarily want to either.

20:13 Like I'm just having fun. I don't know that he wants to settle down ever.

20:17 Ever.

20:17 Yeah, I know. Like I remember like she's holding out hope and I'm like, I'm really not guys.

20:22 I'm fine.

20:22 I don't think you, I don't think you are. I'm doing my thing.

20:25 So frustrating. Are you doing anything for Halloween?

20:34 Well, I have two kids, so I have a Halloween party that I'm going to the night before. The night before who I invited like a really cute boy that I'm crushing on. I invited him to it. I know. And then on Halloween, I'm just going to have like pumpkin carving cookie making at the house with like a bunch of families and their little kids. And then we'll go trick or treating. Um, and then I'm going to come home and probably watch Hocus Pocus with ocean. I'm sure we'll be home by seven. Love that. Do you dress up? So full transparency. I fucking hate a theme.

21:06 I hate a theme. So yeah, Halloween is like my worst nightmare, worst nightmare. And because the Halloween party is like, I just don't want to be that person who shows up and like kills the vibe. So I'm going to attempt to dress up as a witch. It's like dark magic, the theme, which is in warlocks of dark magic. But then on actual Halloween, I'm just wearing this like cheetah naked wardrobe, like body suit that I wore in one of my interviews for the Valley last season. And I got ears to match it. And that's as good as it gets. Perfect. I've told everybody. Oh my God. Oh my God.

21:49 I love Halloween.

21:51 Well, most people do. And can I tell you, everyone knows when you have a themed party, I deny them a theme. Don't even tell me. I'm done. Done with it. Not happening.

22:04 Wittner on our show is huge on themes. And it's like, like literature and like, and I hate it. I hate a thing like that.

22:15 What do you mean? Like you dress up as like Romeo and Juliet?

22:18 Like, yeah. Like someone that I just, or someone from like a literature characters or like literature.

22:24 Oh, I would be the woman in the scarlet letter. Yeah. See all I can dress totally like myself and just wear a giant scarlet egg.

22:31 Yeah.

22:32 I was, um, who was I?

22:33 It was from holes. The girl that kisses everybody and kills them with her kiss. Oh, that's a great one. Yeah.

22:38 I know exactly who you're talking about.

22:39 Look at my costume.

22:42 Yeah, show me.

22:43 The best night. Angelina Jolie from Mr.

22:46 And Mrs.

22:47 Smith.

22:47 But shut up, Sally. Isn't it so hot?

22:53 I found like the exact dress. I'm so excited.

22:57 And then I'm doing like one that I'm making, which is like bad news. And I just wrapped a newspaper around me and wear it horns.

23:06 That's so cute.

23:08 I know.

23:08 I'm really excited.

23:08 And then I'm being the bride of Chucky with Austin.

23:11 That's great. That is, those are so good. The Angelina Jolie one is my favorite though, because I wouldn't feel like I'm in costume. I would just feel like I was me still.

23:20 And LA Tech's black dress.

23:21 Exactly. I love Halloween. You hate it. Here's the thing.

23:25 I love it enough for the both of us. I, yes.

23:28 Well, most people love it enough for me a hundred times, but having kids is like the funnest. Sosa's La Vaca Lola. So I got her a cow costume and a name tag that says, hi, I'm Lola. Have you heard that song? La Vaca Lola. No, it's Spanish. My kid Sosa is pretty much fluent in Spanish.

23:53 Yes.

23:53 Her nanny only speaks to her in Spanish. And when I brought her nanny on, I was like, it is very important for me to to have her fluent in English and Spanish. Like, please don't speak to her in English.

24:06 Wait, do you speak Spanish?

24:08 Not a lick. So for the most part, when Sosa's talking to me and she's like pointing at something, talking, I'm like, she's speaking, like, I don't know what she's saying. And then Cynthia will say like, Oh, she's asking you for a snack out of the cabinet. And I'm like, Oh fuck. Okay.

24:21 And she gets mad at you. She's going to be like yelling at you in Spanish.

24:24 You have no idea what she's saying.

24:25 My dream.

24:25 Cuss me out in Spanish. I don't give a damn. At least you're using the language. Like it's so beautiful. And we live in LA. Like, it is a must that you speak Spanish. I'm actually going to start taking courses. Um, and I'm going to put ocean in Spanish at her new school, but my daughter Sosa is obsessed. Like she'll see our nanny is from Mexico. Um, she will, Sosa will see a Mexican flag and lose her goddamn mind.

24:52 Just Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, mama. And like, that's amazing. It's the cutest thing on the planet. I know. I'm obsessed. It makes me so happy. Her birthday party theme was Miss Issa. Our nanny showed up today because they're going to a little costume party. So Sosa has on her cow outfit and our nanny shows up as Miss Issa.

25:16 And I thought Sosa was going to cry. She just said, Miss Issa, me on Miss Issa. It's so cute.

25:23 That is so cute.

25:24 I need to hear her. speak spanish so when it comes to halloween with my babies i'm like really into it like i get i got ocean her way that she needs yeah i'm super hyped to get them ready.

25:36 You know i saw a comment on instagram about what one day and it made a lot of sense because someone basically commented on a picture of me and was like implying that my goodies were all.

25:50 Torn up because of my body count or whatever she.

25:52 Should take a science class an anatomy class because the vagina can literally shove an eight pound body out of it and be just fine.

26:01 And they replied someone replied and was like oh is this what you say about someone's someone's vagina that's just being fucked by her husband every night for 30 years because it's essentially the same.

26:11 Thing it's 100 the same thing that person's an idiot do you know that the vagina is is the most powerful, resilient thing on the planet. Literally, there are women who shove. I know women in Utah who have fucking 10 children. Yeah, that's insane. But their pussy's not torn up. Only the girl who's let multiple dicks, and if they're in Charleston, we all know that they're four inches on average. You're fine. Yeah, I don't even feel it. No one needs to worry about your vag. No one needs to worry about my vagina.

26:45 We only accept little dicks around here. She's a gorgeous little flower. And when she's ready to go, she's plump and juicy like a peach. Like, you don't got to worry about me, Jan. Yeah, Jan. Get the fuck out of here. God. Sometimes women really piss me the fuck off.

27:02 Me too.

27:03 So do you think a body count can be too high?

27:05 I guess we did just make a face at my boy, at my ex-boyfriends, but. Yeah, I do think a body count can be too high. I'm a sexual being, right? But to say you have 500 different people, like that's crazy. Well, I mean, I don't know 500 people. I don't even know 100 people. When I have like a get together for my birthday, there's like 10 of us. Yeah, yeah, no.

27:32 I can't even imagine.

27:34 No. And but I also go through that without getting anything sexually transmitted disease.

27:40 Well, that's the other thing that I think about. I'm like, how many of these people were you making sure that like you were using protection and whatnot? I don't like to pass judgment on people's, you know, sexual body counts. Do you think there's such thing as too low?

27:54 No.

27:56 Okay.

27:56 I mean, I don't I don't know.

27:59 I don't necessarily... I.

28:01 Mean, look, all respect to people who wait until marriage to have sex, but I can't imagine doing that because if I'm not sexually fulfilled, that's not... It's not going anywhere good.

28:12 But I have friends in Utah who are super LDS and they waited until marriage and granted they got married at 20. Mm-hmm. They married young.

28:24 I guess it's good because they don't know what else is out there.

28:27 No, they don't.

28:28 And.

28:29 in a way, like I'm sure a lot of people think that's beautiful, but I kind, it kind of makes me sad because I watched like Heather Gay on Real Housewives of Salt Lake and she grew up in the Mormon church and there was a lot of pressure and all of these things on getting married and going on a mission and fucking only sleeping with the person that you marry and that's like, it's a one and done.

28:57 And now she tells her daughters, like, I want you to go out and I want you to live. And of course I want you to be safe, but I want you to have a good time so that when you do settle down, you have so many fun life experiences that you don't feel like you ever missed out. You know? I agree with that. Yeah. 100%. So, but I guess if you never know the experiences, then you don't know what you're missing out on. But I look back and I'm like, even though, I'm like in AA now and I'm like two kids deep and just life is very different than it used to be. Like I look back and I'm like, I really fucking lived life, man.

29:35 Like I was peddled to the fucking metal.

29:38 Can you imagine being like.

29:40 on your deathbed at like however old you are and you're like, wow, I should have done this or like I should have just really partied my ass off and made mistakes and said yes to more and like all that. I can't imagine not having some of the experiences that I've had and like dying. That scares me.

30:00 I can't either. That's why I say.

30:01 This to everything.

30:02 I mean, not everything, but like, everyone's like, why are you on all these reality TV shows? And I'm like, because who else gets these opportunities? Like not a lot of people.

30:11 By the way, I looked this up. Let me tell you. And I, this came up with one of my cast members. I had said something and she actually made a really great point. She was like, you know, I remember listening to my grandmother telling me all of these stories. when she was younger and they were so outrageous that they didn't even sound real and she's like weird those are experience that experiences that we're having right now yeah and so i was so curious i'm like how many people get to do what we do so it says for the u.s suppose roughly 2 000 to 5 000 people have been genuine main recurring cast members of successful reality shows So this is against a population of roughly 340 million.

30:56 So if you break that down, it's people who get to do what we do is 0.00059%. That's insane. I know.

31:06 So like, tell, please tell me that you wouldn't like, who would not do that?

31:10 Yes. And the other thing is you're great at it. Like you get to go out and live your life the way you want to. And it's entertainment for people. Like how fucking fun is that?

31:21 It's a little crazy and weird when you think about it because people are paying like $ 6, 000 to come in here.

31:26 You speak. And if you think about it too much, you want to crawl in a hole because you're like, wait, I'm feeling very exposed and vulnerable. But there's going to be a day where this ends. Like there will be a day where you're no longer on TV. Because you're going to be old as shit, obviously, because you're rocking it till the wheels fall off. You're going to be married with children. You'll be so in love and you'll be so happy. But this chapter of your life will never return. So guess what, baby? You fucking go to Bravo Fest and Bravo Con and you talk about all these motherfuckers you slept with in the Bravo universe. And you let everyone kick rocks who says that it's too high or her pussy's beat up. Yeah. And you know what?

32:08 Keep it up. Your man's is next. Your man's is next. Literally.

32:13 I mean, that is just, I feel bad for people that aren't fucking living life to the fullest.

32:18 Like I am. And you know what? Even if you don't live the kind of life we live. Yeah.

32:25 Just be supportive. You can still live the life that I'm living. It's just like not on TV.

32:29 100%. But I have, can I tell you, and for a really long time, like I had turned off my DMs. I was in a hole because people were so, like they were out for blood. They wanted my head on a stick. I reopened my DMs and it's just part of like what I'm working on in my sobriety of like letting go, forgiving myself and all of these other things.

32:57 So I opened up my DMs. The amount of women, like the people who fuck with me are really badass.

33:04 Yeah, oh yeah.

33:05 They're so badass. kind and sweet. And I get DMs that are like, I have not lived the way you have lived, but I fucking love that you go out and just do what you want. And that like makes those.

33:19 Get, those make me happy. I get some that are like, I am a mother of four. I've been married for this long. And she's like, I look at your life and I'm like, wow, I wish I lived life like that before I had this.

33:31 She's like, I love my life, but you're.

33:35 Doing exactly what you should be doing. Because one day your life is going to look like mine and you're not going to be able to.

33:40 Do it anymore. And for people, yeah. And for people who don't agree, like you don't have to see my page. You don't have to listen to my content.

33:50 Yeah.

33:50 There's so much shit out there for you to consume. like why are you here then if you don't like me why are you seeking me out so we have to hold on to the comments like that woman who was like are you saying that the woman who's been sleeping with her husband you know every night for 30 years is like tore up down there like you just.

34:08 Sound dumb stupid remove yourself and it's crazy and even.

34:13 This podcast sally like the amount of people who write in who are like nervous you don't have a safe space to go to with their friend group it's crazy i They're asking us how to go to their husbands and like talk to them about sex. That is really cool. That is really cool. You know what? There's something I go back to that interview we did with Susan Bratton. Oh, I know.

34:39 She described Kyle. I asked Kyle to choke me that night.

34:43 And did he?

34:43 No, I think he got scared. He wouldn't, he wouldn't.

34:50 My kind of guy.

34:51 Kyle, put your fucking hands around my neck.

34:55 Yeah. I've got to be really in the mood. Cause the moment you work the way to my neck, I'm like, I've watched way too many like documentaries, 2020 state lines. Like why are your hands like all, if I, if I want to be choked out, I'll let you know. If I want you to slap my ass and leave a mark, I'll let you know.

35:16 Have you ever passed out?

35:18 During sex?

35:19 Yeah, like from someone choking you? No, from someone choking you.

35:22 Sally, no. Even in my most wasted state.

35:29 Me either.

35:30 I'm just kidding.

35:34 I have.

35:34 One time.

35:36 And it really scared me.

35:38 I thought that I was going.

35:39 To lose brain cells.

35:42 You're so fun I was like okay I can't breathe this was a boyfriend by the way but like he took it a little he took it a little too far you don't say I woke up and he was like he's like Sally are you okay I was like.

35:57 I'm fine just lost consciousness for a second Sally.

36:03 My stomach hurts In Bali, you can perform a ritual where you pour sacred water on yourself to purify and reset your body count. Let's go to Bali. Born again virgin. Let's go to Bali. All you have to do is go to Bali and you're literally a born again virgin? Done.

36:24 Done.

36:25 Let's take a trip to Bali.

36:26 Yeah, but by the way, my puss better be hitting like a fucking 20 year old who's never had a baby in her life. If you're dumping water on me... Because we're re-virginized. Re-virginized means no kids here.

36:40 I am going to do ayahuasca. What are your feelings on that?

36:42 How weird. We just had this conversation, me and Amber, on an unlikely affair. I have mixed feelings about it. Is it antichrist? I think depending on who you ask. Like, if you're asking, like, a Bible bumper, yes, absolutely. But I'm not a Bible bumper. I'm much more spiritual. My mom's a Bible bumper. Okay, which is great. I think that's...

37:01 That's maybe why she did that. I think that's fantastic. I think.

37:05 But I was going to go with Austin and Shep. A bunch of us were.

37:09 Going to go.

37:10 I mean, I think you should do it. I think that's great. Just so you know, though, my friend became obsessed with it. It like was life changing for her. So she would do it every so often. And the final time she did it, she had a very, very dark experience. And now she's a full on Bible bumper. You can't tell her nothing. She plays the Bible through her house. Yeah.

37:37 The only thing I think about is Miley Cyrus going and she did it. She said she threw up when she was purging is what they call it. And she is a, I guess a vegan or vegetarian, whatever she is, but she used.

37:51 To eat meat.

37:53 And during her, whatever, ayahuasca experience, she was throwing up like chickens and stuff to get rid of the guilt that she had eaten in the past then she goes but then like giraffes started coming out and like all these crazy animals started coming out of her mouth and she was like purging them but it got rid of all of her guilt but it was like an extremely intense and crazy experience.

38:15 Yeah yeah I think maybe so I'm really big on before you do something like that I think you take and this sounds really cheesy and corny but I think you take a moment and do you believe in God? Yes. So I think you take a moment away from the people you're doing it with maybe the night before and like have a moment with God and say like, I'm open.

38:35 Like we're in this together because I I'm into the, I'm when I say I'm spiritual, like I believe in God. I believe that Jesus is the son of God, but I don't know a lick of the Bible.

38:48 Right?

38:48 Like I've never read the book.

38:50 I there's, I'm in the same boat.

38:52 And I'm like, I'm into the universe and how the stars are aligned and what that means for me. Like I'm into the woo shit. I'll go to a fucking, you know, witch or whoever to, you know, flip cards. I do the whole bit. Just have a moment with, with your higher power and be like, we're in this together.

39:07 Like I'm open. Stay with me during this time. And I think you'll have like a pretty powerful experience. Yeah.

39:15 I'm, I'm nervous, but yeah.

39:17 Okay. I mean, I would be too, because you don't know what's going to happen.

39:20 I just don't want to have like, I don't, I don't love to shit myself as one might think that I do.

39:26 But, and I don't like to throw up.

39:28 You may be doing both or you may be doing none.

39:32 Yeah. My ex fiance went and he didn't purge at all, but I don't think that he allowed the full experience.

39:38 But that's why I think that you should be open and have that moment with your, between you and your higher power so that you're open to the experience. And I think it'll be good. I, I, Have you ever heard of Shep's experience? No. Did he have a bad one?

39:52 It's just, it made me laugh really hard because he talks about it on Southern Charms.

39:56 This season?

39:57 And, you know, no, last season, but him and Taylor dated for a long time. And everyone always said that like Shep held her back or like now she has trauma from the relationship and she needs whatever in order to be happy again. And he said that he like visualizes this bird in a nest. Like when he was on Ayahuasca, I was laughing so hard at this scene on Southern Charm and Taylor.

40:23 Was this bird and he was like, yes, like.

40:26 I'm going to release this bird and she's going to fly away and be beautiful and live her beautiful life. And he said, the bird flies off and he watches it flies off and then it just starts flying into windows and it got trapped in his house. Oh no. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

40:43 That was last season. I'm going to do a rewatch. Yes. You have to. How did I miss that? Because I rock with Southern Charm hard.

40:50 I'll send you the scene because there's a clip on TikTok and it's so funny.

40:53 Okay, I want to see it.

40:54 It's so funny.

40:54 Oh my God, that is so good.

40:55 I'll show you.

40:56 I'm excited for you. I think it's going to be great. Very fucking into it. And by the way, I don't rock with a God who sits there and is like, she decided to do ayahuasca. So that means she's anti me. Nope. Not my God. My God rocks with me through thick and thin, baby, through all my choices. Exactly. This was a very fun podcast. We went from body count to talking about God and ayahuasca spiritual trips. You guys, thank you for listening to another episode of Sex Unlocked. We're going to catch you next week.

41:27 Bye. Bye.